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Update Blocking Carriers - Name and Shame

Ok, so it appears some carriers have blocked the first update that does nothing to WP7.
To take a quote from WP7 support:
[Some Mobile Operators have the right to skip one update if they wish.
However, they can't skip the next one, which would be an acumulative update and would include the previous one.
So if your mobile operator decided to block this one, you will be getting the early March one (which will include the Feb one too)]
from Microsoft Windows Phone Forum
The concern is if they block an update that does nothing, what will they do in future?
So, lets try to isolate which ones havent updated yet - if you have a BRANDED handset that HAS OR HAS NOT been updated :
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- name the Carrier/Branding, Handset Model and Country so others know.
As updates hit these phones, I will append the date of the update to the handset on the list.
No update
ATT LG Quantum
ATT Samsung Focus
ATT HTC Surround
T-Mobile HTC HD7 (US I assume)
T-Mobile Dell Venue Pro. (US I assume)
Telus LG Optimus 7
Telus HTC Surround
Orange HTC 7 Mozart
Orange (France)
SFR (France)
Telstra LG Optimus 7Q
Telstra HTC Mozart - UPDATE - Mid march maybe
Vodafone (Spanish) LG Optimus 7
Now released
O2 Branded HD7 Released 3/3
Vodafone Netherlands HTC 7 Trophy - Released 6/3
Vodafone (Australia) HTC Trophy - release - some other regions also 3/3
Optus - Released 3/3
Vodafone AU - released 3/3
There is also a list of carriers who are apparently confirmed to be pusing it out - but I would debate this to be totally accurate (as with the above list) as they too are sourcing their information from posts by people who may not necessarily know if their phone is Branded.
http://wmpoweruser.com/carriers-who-are-confirmed-to-be-pushing-out-updates/

My t mobile hd7 has not received any updates so far.

None of my US branded devices are recieving anything
ATT LG Quantum
ATT Samsung Focus
ATT HTC Surround
T-Mobile HTC HD7
my unbranded devices received update love though...

ATT Focus
My ATT Samsung Focus has not received an update notification.

Vodafone HTC Trophy

Orange HTC 7 Mozart

I think there was an article somewhere stating that this update is being rolled out in steps to ensure that it goes out smoothly.
i think it is quite probable that MS is also sort of dipping its toe in the water before it dives in with the first proper update.

hboos said:
I think there was an article somewhere stating that this update is being rolled out in steps to ensure that it goes out smoothly.
i think it is quite probable that MS is also sort of dipping its toe in the water before it dives in with the first proper update.
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Of course this is possible, but then they go post things like:
To take a quote from WP7 support:
'Some Mobile Operators have the right to skip one update if they wish.
However, they can't skip the next one, which would be an acumulative update and would include the previous one.
So if your mobile operator decided to block this one, you will be getting the early March one (which will include the Feb one too)'
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/f28b13c4-97dc-4930-a996-a8a3f2c4430d

Spanish Vodafone LG Optimus 7 not receiving the update either.

No love here either.
Dell Venue Pro on T-Mobile U.S.

richlee111 said:
No love here either.
Dell Venue Pro on T-Mobile U.S.
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Is it actually T-Mobile branded firmware?

No love for O2 Branded HD7

When I asked if TmoUSA was blocking the update, I got this response from WindowsPhoneSupport...
We don't have any information on that. If you still haven't received the update please be patient and check back later. ^EB
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FiyaFleye said:
When I asked if TmoUSA was blocking the update, I got this response from WindowsPhoneSupport...
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Thanks for that.
At this stage, I am just compliling a list of branded phones that have not been updated - as they get updated, I will ammend the list and append the date of the update next to the carrier.
I love that, Microsoft say they dont know if a carrier has blocked an update...

otech said:
Thanks for that.
At this stage, I am just compliling a list of branded phones that have not been updated - as they get updated, I will ammend the list and append the date of the update next to the carrier.
I love that, Microsoft say they dont know if a carrier has blocked an update...
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Well, in the support team's defense, they probably wouldn't be given that information, especially the Twitter branch of it... At least not this early. I think they're just tiering the updates, and maybe holding them off until they fix this Samsung issue...

Bass Ackwards
You need to compile a list of people that HAVE received the update, not people that have not: Microsoft directly said the first update would NOT be rolled out to everyone.
Also, what's the big deal ? It's just a pre-emptive update, not something that actually matters.

ohgood said:
You need to compile a list of people that HAVE received the update, not people that have not: Microsoft directly said the first update would NOT be rolled out to everyone.
Also, what's the big deal ? It's just a pre-emptive update, not something that actually matters.
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Actually, it has the first batch of OEM software updates, so it does matter.
I am monitoring the update thread for those that have.

Samsung Focus with AT&T here and still without an update. I wish there was another way to get them.

Neither me or my mate have received updates on our T-Mobile Samsung Omnia 7s

ohgood said:
Microsoft directly said the first update would NOT be rolled out to everyone.
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Sorry, I must have missed that: link please?
It certainly doesnt say that on the announcment page: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...t-windows-phone-update-and-how-to-get-it.aspx

Orange 1.28 Software Update...

Does anyone know when Orange users can expect this?
Thanks.
S.

The software updates don't depend on the carrier you use,it depends on the country you are.For exampe 1.28.401 is for Europe,1.28.701 is for...i realy don't know.In what country do you are?

I live in the UK and my phone says no updates are available. But I understand that 02 users have had updates...

jeyml said:
The software updates don't depend on the carrier you use,it depends on the country you are.For exampe 1.28.401 is for Europe,1.28.701 is for...i realy don't know.In what country do you are?
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No. The updates do depend on what carrier if it is a branded handset. HTC make the new firmware and then give it to the various carriers to customise and approve. This means it will lag behind the releases for the generic regions.
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simcarloc said:
Does anyone know when Orange users can expect this?
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No idea. I've tried asking Orange and the person I spoke to had no clue either.

Thanks mate. I guess I'll just have to wait and see...
S.

simcarloc said:
I live in the UK and my phone says no updates are available. But I understand that 02 users have had updates...
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Not on the branded phones. Nobody at O2 seems to have a clue when it'll be pushed either

Yeah,sorry,forgot about branded ones.

Vodafone UK users got the update last week...

I'm on Orange in the UK and got the 1.28 update the day it was released. My phones software version is 1.28.401.9.
The phone was bought through DialAPhone and has no Orange branding or customisation (thankfully) so I'm not sure if its an unlocked handset on Oranges network, or locked to Orange, but I definately got the update via the Orange network.

nickkuk said:
I'm on Orange in the UK and got the 1.28 update the day it was released. My phones software version is 1.28.401.9.
The phone was bought through DialAPhone and has no Orange branding or customisation (thankfully) so I'm not sure if its an unlocked handset on Oranges network, or locked to Orange, but I definately got the update via the Orange network.
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You've got an unbranded handset and it is most probably unlocked. If you got the One X direct from Orange then it would have been branded.
The updates actually downloaded from HTC servers and not Orange so it doesn't matter what network you're actually connected to. HTC still need Orange to approve the new firmware though before it will be released.

Tiersten said:
You've got an unbranded handset and it is most probably unlocked. If you got the One X direct from Orange then it would have been branded.
The updates actually downloaded from HTC servers and not Orange so it doesn't matter what network you're actually connected to. HTC still need Orange to approve the new firmware though before it will be released.
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I got my HOX from Orange but it isn't branded.

[Q] OTA update questions

I have a factory unlocked HOX that I bought from NewEgg. The phone's default language was Taiwan English and all the packaging also matches with that, so I guess it's an Asian market device. Now, as you can probably see, I'm in Canada, on Virgin Mobile. I'm also new to Android, coming from iOS. Something I had always heard about as a negative about the Android platform was that people had to not only wait for Google to release their OS updates (eg 4.0.4), and for their device manufacturer to create their OTA update (Android 4.0.4 plus Sense 4.x I guess), but also for the carrier to roll out the updates.
So my questions are simply, "what role does the carrier have in OTA updates?", "how does this process work when you have a factory unlocked device?", and "does the fact that my carrier does not carry/officially support the HOX change anything?"
I've already received OTA updates since I got the phone, so I know they work, I'm just interested in how the whole update system works in Android, and how my OTA update availability schedule will look.
Thanks

4z01235 said:
I have a factory unlocked HOX that I bought from NewEgg. The phone's default language was Taiwan English and all the packaging also matches with that, so I guess it's an Asian market device. Now, as you can probably see, I'm in Canada, on Virgin Mobile. I'm also new to Android, coming from iOS. Something I had always heard about as a negative about the Android platform was that people had to not only wait for Google to release their OS updates (eg 4.0.4), and for their device manufacturer to create their OTA update (Android 4.0.4 plus Sense 4.x I guess), but also for the carrier to roll out the updates.
So my questions are simply, "what role does the carrier have in OTA updates?", "how does this process work when you have a factory unlocked device?", and "does the fact that my carrier does not carry/officially support the HOX change anything?"
I've already received OTA updates since I got the phone, so I know they work, I'm just interested in how the whole update system works in Android, and how my OTA update availability schedule will look.
Thanks
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your phone is the international unlocked version. in fact its the taiwan version which in some and most cases, gets the update before the europen and asian N HK ones. If there is an update, you would be the first to receive it.
VIRGIN BELL TELUS ROGERS KOODO CHATR WIND MOBILICITY all will have no hand in your phone. they dont even know it exists
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Awesome, thanks for the quick response!
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

4z01235 said:
Awesome, thanks for the quick response!
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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no problem, click thanks if i helped～ if u got any other problems with rooting or otherstuff and is in the gta, just pm me
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

can anyone please tell me that if a htc (one s) phone is rooted will it get official htc OTA updates???

Kevin Ma said:
your phone is the international unlocked version. in fact its the taiwan version which in some and most cases, gets the update before the europen and asian N HK ones. If there is an update, you would be the first to receive it.
VIRGIN BELL TELUS ROGERS KOODO CHATR WIND MOBILICITY all will have no hand in your phone. they dont even know it exists
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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The EU handsets get the updates first - SEA don't seem to get them for another week or so later

EddyOS said:
The EU handsets get the updates first - SEA don't seem to get them for another week or so later
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hmmm odd, i got my 1.29.709.12 update two weeeks before my friends with german, netherland, and other europe labeled phones
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US HTC 10 unlocked in Europe

Hello,
with the help of a friend, who is currently in USA, I have ordered an US unlocked HTC 10 directly from the htc.com. I am yet to receive the phone.
As i am living in Europe, Bulgaria, i was wondering whether there will be any problems with the OTA updates - will I be able to get them ? Are there any difference between EU and US HTC 10s in that regard, and should I be concerned? I have looked all over the internet and couldn't find the answer to my question, sadly .
Another friend of mine has made the same procedure - bying a phone from the States, but with an Iphone 6s, and has no problems at all with carrier network in Bulgaria and OTA updates. Therefore i thing that I, as well, should not have any problems? or am I wrong?
If this is a duplicate theme, I am sorry - I could't find any.
Appreciate any help in advance.

i have htc 10 USA unlocked in Italy, for my phone no carrier network problem unlocked version have all lte band working, for ota i wait the first, why when i buy my htc 10 is arrived already updated at last version of software for now 1.80.617.1 a wait the ota of july 1.90.401

Android 8.1?

Anyone have any idea or hear any news of when Android 8.1 will be pushed to UK Nokia 6.1? News online 4-5 days ago that it started rolling out OTA in India?

Nothing here on my UK model. Stuck on February security patch.

I got the 8.1 update with the april patch a few days ago (april 13rd) in france

Is yours a European spec model or from Asia?

leoni1980 said:
Is yours a European spec model or from Asia?
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Good to hear it is being pushed in Europe. Hopefully get it this week!
I got it from Carphone Warehouse here in the UK, they got exclusive rights to sell it. Model TA-1050.

leoni1980 said:
Nothing here on my UK model. Stuck on February security patch.
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Its annoying. Hopefully get it rolled out ASAP.

Mine is from Carphone Warehouse too. I've tried using a VPN to spoof that I'm in India and France but nothing is coming through.
I'm hoping that 8.1 will allow me to use the more recent Google Pixel camera APKs as I'm currently having to use an ancient one in order for HDR processing to work.

leoni1980 said:
Mine is from Carphone Warehouse too. I've tried using a VPN to spoof that I'm in India and France but nothing is coming through.
I'm hoping that 8.1 will allow me to use the more recent Google Pixel camera APKs as I'm currently having to use an ancient one in order for HDR processing to work.
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No joys?
My only criticism of the phone is the camera, like you say, hopefully the update will allow us to use the updated camera apps.

leoni1980 said:
Is yours a European spec model or from Asia?
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It's a european model

What's your model number? Mine says TA-1050
I've tried using a VPN to spoof being in France with no luck. I wonder if it's tied to my IMEI.
Any suggestions as to something else that might work would be good.

French model TA-1043, 8.1 update donne when first start
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French model TA-1043, 8.1 update done when first start

leoni1980 said:
What's your model number? Mine says TA-1050
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Mine is also TA-1043 version 5
According to https://nokiapoweruser.com/variants-nokia-7-plus-8-sirocco-6-plus-1-emerge-various-certifications/ there are 5 Nokia 6.1 variants : TA-1050, TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1016, TA-1054

I bought a TA-1043 from amazon.de (shipped to ireland) and i have not gotten the 8.1 upgrade either....
Does anyone know what the difference between the various models (1043 / 1050) is?

I just got the TA-1043 in Hungary from Germany (Amazon) and got 8.1 on first boot.

Anyone with the TA-1050 model got this update yet? I'm not very impressed given my security patch is from the 1st Feb... It's nearly May.
Anyone know what model lauched in USA the other day? Be interesting to see if they also got the update out the box.

Carphone Warehouse have exclusivity in the UK - not sure if my model is 'their' brand and therefore has slowed updates. Bit annoying that the brand new Nokia 6 is behind the old Nokia 6 with updates though - kind of makes me wonder what the real point of Android One is.

leoni1980 said:
Carphone Warehouse have exclusivity in the UK - not sure if my model is 'their' brand and therefore has slowed updates. Bit annoying that the brand new Nokia 6 is behind the old Nokia 6 with updates though - kind of makes me wonder what the real point of Android One is.
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Yeah I don't think that makes a difference. They are sim free/unlocked devices.
As an android one phone, the updates are pushed directly from Google OTA (supposedly). Just find it strange that it's still not pushed in the UK.

leoni1980 said:
Carphone Warehouse have exclusivity in the UK - not sure if my model is 'their' brand and therefore has slowed updates. Bit annoying that the brand new Nokia 6 is behind the old Nokia 6 with updates though - kind of makes me wonder what the real point of Android One is.
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You don't happen to be with EE do you? I seen someone complaining about Nokia phones not receiving update due to EE... On an unlocked phone... I don't have another sim to try.

doug143 said:
You don't happen to be with EE do you? I seen someone complaining about Nokia phones not receiving update due to EE... On an unlocked phone... I don't have another sim to try.
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Considering i have a TA-1043 (same as a user above who also ordered off Amazon Germany but is based in hungary and received the update on first boot), i'm guessing the updates are just country limited. UK/Ireland seem to be down the pecking order.
Has anyone tried connecting over a VPN to do the update (or at least download it)?

I’ve tried. No luck.