Nougat Update Moto Z Play - India - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

I got the nougat update on my moto z play... its kinda good and ok. But on antutu i found it says nougat "32 bit" , why 32 bit on a 64 bit processor smartphone ? I am not that techy but just felt as a miss match which could hamper performance maybe... please someone let me know... will highly appreciate it!.. its kinda good and ok. But on antutu i found it says nougat "32 bit" , why 32 bit on a 64 bit processor smartphone ? I am not that techy but just felt as a miss match which could hamper performance maybe... please someone let me know... will highly appreciate it!
** And I did the antutu test, it came lesser(59k) than what came on marshmallow(62k) sadly

Before someone jumps down your throat, I'll let you know this has been covered in multiple threads. The chip is capable of 64. However, 64 is for hardware running larger RAM than we are. So we are at 32. It doesn't affect performance.

shantusingh said:
I got the nougat update on my moto z play... its kinda good and ok. But on antutu i found it says nougat "32 bit" , why 32 bit on a 64 bit processor smartphone ? I am not that techy but just felt as a miss match which could hamper performance maybe... please someone let me know... will highly appreciate it!.. its kinda good and ok. But on antutu i found it says nougat "32 bit" , why 32 bit on a 64 bit processor smartphone ? I am not that techy but just felt as a miss match which could hamper performance maybe... please someone let me know... will highly appreciate it!
** And I did the antutu test, it came lesser(59k) than what came on marshmallow(62k) sadly
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rile1564 said:
Before someone jumps down your throat, I'll let you know this has been covered in multiple threads. The chip is capable of 64. However, 64 is for hardware running larger RAM than we are. So we are at 32. It doesn't affect performance.
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A very interesting answer ... here I come to mind a stupid idea. Could you ram up the RAM like PCs?
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Im on retin ( india ) but sitll not received Nougat update
Im on retin ( india ) but sitll not received Nougat update... tired manually check for update but it says "software is up to date"
Note:- My bootloader is unlocked
whats wrong ?

joshua764 said:
A very interesting answer ... here I come to mind a stupid idea. Could you ram up the RAM like PCs?
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:laugh:. Ha ha not possible ..

rile1564 said:
Before someone jumps down your throat, I'll let you know this has been covered in multiple threads. The chip is capable of 64. However, 64 is for hardware running larger RAM than we are. So we are at 32. It doesn't affect performance.
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sorry i havn't checked other threads, though thank you. I feel a micro second unresponsiveness/late opening when i click on apps(nothing on the touch), for example play store, etc.... i feel with more usage of nougat now that marshmallow smoothness was better and fast charging also feels has slowed down, and i feel it was little faster on marshmallow. But doze looks great and much better on nougat

rile1564 said:
However, 64 is for hardware running larger RAM than we are. So we are at 32. It doesn't affect performance.
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The CPU has a different instruction set when it is running 64 bit. If the app is optimized for 64 bit, it may profit. Optimized Chess engines in average run about 15-20% faster on arm64 than on arm. Not optimized apps may run a bit faster on 32 bit, because the overhead is smaller. In average you probably will not notice the difference. Memory consumption per app is higher using 64 bit, this may be a bigger disadvantage than a few percentage performance gain for special use cases.

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4 GB vs. 3 GB RAM

I'm thinking of buying a Mi Max, and I was wondering, how big is the difference between the models with 3 and 4 GB RAM (in terms of speed, reliability, power consumption etc.)? Meaning, is it worth paying more for the 128GB/4GB model (if you don't really need that much storage space), or should the 64GB/3GB model do just fine (since everything else is, as I understand, the same)?
And how stable is the unofficial CM13 for it? Are there any critical components that are not working at this time?
galadroid said:
I'm thinking of buying a Mi Max, and I was wondering, how big is the difference between the models with 3 and 4 GB RAM (in terms of speed, reliability, power consumption etc.)? Meaning, is it worth paying more for the 128GB/4GB model (if you don't really need that much storage space), or should the 64GB/3GB model do just fine (since everything else is, as I understand, the same)?
And how stable is the unofficial CM13 for it? Are there any critical components that are not working at this time?
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I doubt you can feel any performance difference between any of the Mi Maxes available, only in benchmarks... Go with whatever you feel comfortable.
CM is good enough as a daily driver for many of us here, no major issues and as a matter of fact I run it from day one which was 1 week after phone came out, never ran anything else on it and my job depends on my phone... Never had problems.
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I doubt you can feel any performance difference between any of the Mi Maxes available, only in benchmarks... Go with whatever you feel comfortable.
CM is good enough as a daily driver for many of us here, no major issues and as a matter of fact I run it from day one which was 1 week after phone came out, never ran anything else on it and my job depends on my phone... Never had problems.
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So you prefer cm to RR?
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So you prefer cm to RR?
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CM... RR is a little too much for me. I like it simple and add what I need. Also some xposed modules made for AOSP don't work on it because code is too much altered. Never had xposed module for AOSP not working on CM. CM is the closest you can get to AOSP with enough advanced features and settings.
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CM... RR is a little too much for me. I like it simple and add what I need. Also some xposed modules made for AOSP don't work on it because code is too much altered. Never had xposed module for AOSP not working on CM. CM is the closest you can get to AOSP with enough advanced features and settings.
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Yes, I like AOSP(slim would be better) + gravitybox more. Will you port slim to max please?
How's the connectivity doing on this device running CM? With Redmi Note 3, I've had were seemingly random issues such as only seeing 2G network (and not 3G/LTE), or being unable to connect to home wifi after one week.
Is it similar here?
Did you really want 64/128 gb version? I think, if phone has 32 gb internal storage, you don't need to pay more, because it's better to get MicroSD up to 256 GB (tested). If you want 2 sim cards, there is a mod, you can insert 2 sim's and MicroSD. Bought mine Snap 650 3/32 version from Xiaomi Authorized Store and tested it side by side with friends 4/128 gigs version ("best" version). And... I didn't believed my eyes, there was no difference. Snap 652 is just marketing thing, app/game performance is same as 650. Of course, more ram - more apps launched in the background, but 3 gigs is optimal (for the price). This phone is not "high end", so if price matters, get 3/32, it's the best price/performance version.
Well, yes. Here's how the current total price (including "gifts" and DHL delivery) stands between models:
128 GB - 298 EUR
64 GB - 246 EUR
32 GB - 220 EUR
So there really isn't much to think between 32 and 64.
All in all, before I decide (or change my mind), I'm also waiting for eventual comments regarding connectivity with this device running CM13 (it was bad on Redmi Note 3, and it is a game-killer).
It's your way to decide, which capacity will be enough for your needs. I didn't tested CM13 so much, but connectivities worked as good as with MIUI. Anyway, CM is not stable, you know it.
Like the others have said, from what I've heard there's no real-world difference between the 650/652 chipsets. Also note, there is a 16GB/2GB RAM version available for around £140/€155 shipped, which if you ask me is a ridiculous bargain!
I've noticed that both 32 and 64 GB models are now selling at about 209 EUR (plus delivery costs). LineageOS effect?
On the other hand, if You plan to take a load of photos / videos, or use Your phone as a music player with extra connectivity features, there's nothing wrong with hunting for a nice deal for the 128gb. It really is down to what You plan to use it for - if You're not media hungry it defeats the purpose. I got a nice deal on gearbest on the 128 - look out for flash sales - the amount of storage means I'll probably never need an sd card, but that option is there too should I be proven wrong at some point (I'm loading it up with FLAC music as soon as MIUI is out of the way).
The main difference is the 128gb has more fast internal storage, unlikely an sdcard you get will be as fast as internal.
I have the 2GB model and its fine with lineageOS. Less fine with stock rom, but still OK. 3 or 4 you will not notice the diff in daily use I personally guarantee you.
Me thinks that 3 GB would be enough. Running RR583 (hydrogen), have 1.2 const used, max 2.1 gb. With disabled big cores, the phone lives 4 days per charge.
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Me thinks that 3 GB would be enough. Running RR583 (hydrogen), have 1.2 const used, max 2.1 gb. With disabled big cores, the phone lives 4 days per charge.
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And here I was thinking I should pay extra for the 650 to 652 jump for 2 extra big cores. :laugh:

Should I buy Helium or just go with hydrogen?

I know this topic has been discussed a few times already but i can't find the answers I'm looking for.
I don't know if i should go with the 128gb/4gb ram (helium) version or 32/gb ram (hydrogen) version.
My questions are:
1. Is there such a big difference in performance between the 4gb ram + snapdragon 652 and 3 gb ram + snapdragon 650? (~100$ price difference)
2 .Can you install hydrogen roms on helium? (miui for me doesn't seem very interesting)
The hydrogen community is a lot bigger than the helium one. (Probably because hydrogen has the same specs as the redmi note 3 pro)
timandrei12 said:
I know this topic has been discussed a few times already but i can't find the answers I'm looking for.
I don't know if i should go with the 128gb/4gb ram (helium) version or 32/gb ram (hydrogen) version.
My questions are:
1. Is there such a big difference in performance between the 4gb ram + snapdragon 652 and 3 gb ram + snapdragon 650? (~100$ price difference)
2 .Can you install hydrogen roms on helium? (miui for me doesn't seem very interesting)
The hydrogen community is a lot bigger than the helium one. (Probably because hydrogen has the same specs as the redmi note 3 pro)
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Not really if you ask me. They are negligable if you won't do CPU intensive tasks. 3GB of RAM is sufficient if you ask me.
No, you certainly cannot. There are reports of folks who did this. They ended up with a hardbrick and they had to open the device up physically to flash it. MIUI is okay-ish. I would still prefer stock Android over it though.
1. I haven't used a Helium but I've read that there's no real difference in terms of real-world performance. Obviously there is a spec difference, but like I said I've read that the upgrade is so minor it's not really worth it unless you're dying for that extra internal storage. I've got the 32GB/3GB version with a 200GB Sandisk working just fine. Way more than enough storage for me!
2. I have read that you can flash Hydrogen ROMs on Helium with a few minor changes to the files (there's evidence of this in the official CM 14 thread), but like the previous poster said, I would not recommend this. Personally (and this is just my opinion...) every ROM available seems a little too buggy even for Hydrogen at the moment. The kernel source hasn't been out all that long and the source ROMs haven't had that much time to develop, so if you're looking to flash for a daily driver I'd wait a few weeks/months. (Seriously, just an opinion. I like my ROMs to be bulletproof!)
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Not really if you ask me. They are negligable if you won't do CPU intensive tasks. 3GB of RAM is sufficient if you ask me.
No, you certainly cannot. There are reports of folks who did this. They ended up with a hardbrick and they had to open the device up physically to flash it. MIUI is okay-ish. I would still prefer stock Android over it though.
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I didn't meant to flash firmwares on it. I meant use hydrogen custom roms that you install in recovery.
MikusP said:
1. I haven't used a Helium but I've read that there's no real difference in terms of real-world performance. Obviously there is a spec difference, but like I said I've read that the upgrade is so minor it's not really worth it unless you're dying for that extra internal storage. I've got the 32GB/3GB version with a 200GB Sandisk working just fine. Way more than enough storage for me!
2. I have read that you can flash Hydrogen ROMs on Helium with a few minor changes to the files (there's evidence of this in the official CM 14 thread), but like the previous poster said, I would not recommend this. Personally (and this is just my opinion...) every ROM available seems a little too buggy even for Hydrogen at the moment. The kernel source hasn't been out all that long and the source ROMs haven't had that much time to develop, so if you're looking to flash for a daily driver I'd wait a few weeks/months. (Seriously, just an opinion. I like my ROMs to be bulletproof!)
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Hydrogen already has official cyanogenmod: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hydrogen
timandrei12 said:
Hydrogen already has official cyanogenmod: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hydrogen
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Yeah, I linked to it in my comment. lol.
Although it's Official CM, it's not bug free. Personally I think it's worth waiting a while, but each to their own!
MikusP said:
Yeah, I linked to it in my comment. lol.
Although it's Official CM, it's not bug free. Personally I think it's worth waiting a while, but each to their own!
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Soo... No kernel source for helium means no development, right?
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Soo... No kernel source for helium means no development, right?
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Well, according to a few people in this thread, Hydrogen and Helium share the same Kernel Source. So, I guess the only hold up would be optimisation for the hardware differences. i.e. getting the extra two cores online for the Helium's 652, etc.
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Well, according to a few people in this thread, Hydrogen and Helium share the same Kernel Source. So, I guess the only hold up would be optimisation for the hardware differences. i.e. getting the extra two cores online for the Helium's 652, etc.
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Oh.. So there's not that much of a difference between the 650 and 652.
Get the Helium, it has more internal storage, more cores and when you go to sell it you'll get a little bit more for it.
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Oh.. So there's not that much of a difference between the 650 and 652.
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There definitely isn't a huge difference between them, and it's debatable whether you'll see any real difference in daily use.
As ajsmsg78, you'll be able to resell the handset for a higher price later on, but you'll also be spending more to buy the 652 in the first place.
I already had a 200GB Sandisk that is only a few months old and I'm pretty used to 32GB internal storage. As I don't install many games 32GB is fine for me (I've still got 12GB internal free, and that probably won't change all that much). I use the 200GB for my entire music collection plus all photos and video I shoot.
It really is down to your particular circumstances. If you've got the dough, definitely go for the 652! 128GB internal would be great, especially when combined with a 200GB external!
If you're looking to grab a bargain, you'll be more than happy with the 650.
(When I purchased my handset the 128GB 652 was an extra $90-$100 more, which for me is a pretty big difference!)

Noob question: How long a device is supported by lineage?

Hello,
I'm new to cyanogen/lineage, and I become interested because so far the only experience I got with android is a phone that wasn't updated even once by the company (bq) and a tablet that will get stuck on 6.0 (motorola).
Therefore my main concern is to have updates for as long as possible.
I can see that many devices I'm interested in don't list any maintainer:
wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ (can't post links)
Does this mean that those phones won't get any new lineage version?
Is there a way to know if a phone will be abandoned sooner than others?
Is it better to buy well known device than a more rare brand?
Is it better to buy a high end phone used than a basic model new?
Any recommendations? I need a pretty simple thing, 4G is a must and dual SIM would be a nice feature. I'm not that interested in power screen resolution or camera.
Thanks a lot for your answers.
I have seen devices getting removed due to inactive maintainers. So hard to say any time.
I use a Moto Z. It's getting it's first build soon [emoji2]
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I want add another question to the thread. What will happen with 32 bit processors.
As far as I know, android 7 cannot be installed in any 32 bit processor. Will be the same with lineage? The equivalent version only will be compatible with 64 bit processors?
asimov-solensan said:
As far as I know, android 7 cannot be installed in any 32 bit processor. Will be the same with lineage? The equivalent version only will be compatible with 64 bit processors?
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What? Nougat works fine on 32 bit.
axxx007xxxz said:
What? Nougat works fine on 32 bit.
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I was sure that I read it somewhere, but it may be that this was comment from a particular brand.
If there is no limitation in this regard I feel more comfortable buying a used device with an older processor.

Concern over 32bit stock OS not 64bit OS on 64bit compatible processor.

Hello friends,
I know many of you are OK with the fact that the stock OS is 32bit OS not 64bit OS ,but there may be guys like me who are not happy with this fact. FOA I wanna tell you that I really wanna use some apps which are only 64bit compatible(if u want name i can PM u) and due to the OS limitation I am unable to install and use these apps. I was new to moto g series and had a blind faith in Motorola thats y i purchased the device on first day of launch. Think yourself guys 4gb RAM nd snapdragon 625 are not enough to run a 64 bit OS? Yes it is infact it is more than capable to run 64 bit OS. Current OS is doing nothing more than limiting the functionality of snapdragon 625. Motorola people say 32 bit OS provide more power than 64 bit OS on 64bit chip, but thats not true qualcomm saying 625 is 64bit because it IS capable enough to run 64bit apps smoothly. Also you can visit here and here to see the performance comparison with redmi note 4, u will find that redmi note 4 is ahead in benchmarks even having heavily skinned MIUI and redmi note 4 uses a 64 bit OS. I even talked to a recognized developer here at XDA and he says ,"it's really unfortunate that motorola decided to go with 32bit OS. Snap 625 is more than capable of running 64bit OS".
Guys u can add weight here to my request for asking a real reason of not using 64 bit OS in g5 plus. Also i don't this RS 17000 is a small price.
Thanks
Again this question? Sorry, but I don't know why you're​ so obsessed with 64 OS
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abeloman said:
Again this question? Sorry, but I don't know why you're​ so obsessed with 64 OS
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It's not a question ,read it carefully..
JJSingh said:
It's not a question ,read it carefully..
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Which apps can't you install?
imightbesomeone said:
Which apps can't you install?
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Have u heard name of dolphin emulator ? It's mobile version can only b installed on a 64 bit OS. ?
look here
https://softwareengineering.stackex...t-software-instead-of-64-bit-on-64-bit-machin
Hi, sorry for noob question. Can 64 bit os is possible to install in g5 plus, if yes can some one explain a little, just for knowledge haha
kanteon said:
Hi, sorry for noob question. Can 64 bit os is possible to install in g5 plus, if yes can some one explain a little, just for knowledge haha
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Yes it's possible but only if Motorola wants, No developer can make a full working 64bit rom for g5 plus because device specific binaries aren't available in 64 bit . ?
I believe they have done it so that 2gb versions won't get issues regarding low ram, and they didn't wanna build separate 64bit build for 3/4gb versions.
i think they could have gone with 3gb as minimum with 64bit os. 2gb is kinda low for a device like this.
2gb works fine on a device like this.
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It's a budget device from a second tier (at best!) manufacturer. Yes, the SoC could handle it; yes, it'd probably be faster; yes, 64-bit longs/pointers wouldn't make a big difference in RAM usage when you have 4GB, but Lenovo just doesn't care. I own one too and would also prefer a 64-bit ROM, but...such is life.
Kufat said:
It's a budget device from a second tier (at best!) manufacturer. Yes, the SoC could handle it; yes, it'd probably be faster; yes, 64-bit longs/pointers wouldn't make a big difference in RAM usage when you have 4GB, but Lenovo just doesn't care. I own one too and would also prefer a 64-bit ROM, but...such is life.
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And for me it's last moto device.. ?
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And for me it's last moto device.. ?
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The phone isn't fast enough to emulate GameCube anyway. The Galaxy S8 barely manages.
If it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have noticed this, all I can say is that it did mattered me till now as everything I use to install is supported and everything is snappy too. But I do understand that having a 32bit os is a letdown, those of you who are saying "it's okay" "why u need 64bit", just keep your mouth shut, I paid for the 64bit cpu for obviously running a 64bit os. There might be everything working fine till now but we do have a reason for an app to be unsupported on our devices. I had a device(yureka) with sd615 which I bought in 2014, it was amongst the first chipset to support 64bit yet it was on 32bit os as android 4.4 was the latest then and it was 32bit only, then with lollipop Android got full 64bit os and so our devices got an ota which updated our devices from 32bit to 64bit. This is just to point out that it's totally possible to upgrade this to 64bit if Lenovo thinks so. Thanks Lenovo for proving me that Motorola is dead as Motorola wouldn't have fooled it's customers like u Chinese company do, scammers.
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pooniaprashant said:
If it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have noticed this, all I can say is that it did mattered me till now as everything I use to install is supported and everything is snappy too. But I do understand that having a 32bit os is a letdown, those of you who are saying "it's okay" "why u need 64bit", just keep your mouth shut, I paid for the 64bit cpu for obviously running a 64bit os. There might be everything working fine till now but we do have a reason for an app to be unsupported on our devices. I had a device(yureka) with sd615 which I bought in 2014, it was amongst the first chipset to support 64bit yet it was on 32bit os as android 4.4 was the latest then and it was 32bit only, then with lollipop Android got full 64bit os and so our devices got an ota which updated our devices from 32bit to 64bit. This is just to point out that it's totally possible to upgrade this to 64bit if Lenovo thinks so. Thanks Lenovo for proving me that Motorola is dead as Motorola wouldn't have fooled it's customers like u Chinese company do, scammers.View attachment 4171577
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pooniaprashant said:
If it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have noticed this, all I can say is that it did mattered me till now as everything I use to install is supported and everything is snappy too. But I do understand that having a 32bit os is a letdown, those of you who are saying "it's okay" "why u need 64bit", just keep your mouth shut, I paid for the 64bit cpu for obviously running a 64bit os. There might be everything working fine till now but we do have a reason for an app to be unsupported on our devices. I had a device(yureka) with sd615 which I bought in 2014, it was amongst the first chipset to support 64bit yet it was on 32bit os as android 4.4 was the latest then and it was 32bit only, then with lollipop Android got full 64bit os and so our devices got an ota which updated our devices from 32bit to 64bit. This is just to point out that it's totally possible to upgrade this to 64bit if Lenovo thinks so. Thanks Lenovo for proving me that Motorola is dead as Motorola wouldn't have fooled it's customers like u Chinese company do, scammers.View attachment 4171577
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No need to whine. Moto has always been an entry to mid level phone and you should have known that. If you want 64 bit OS then you need to set your sights higher. After owning 4 previous Moto G models I probably won't buy another. No just because of the OS but because I think the company is now run by a bunch of idiots that only looks to push out a sub-standard piece of hardware to the masses. Lenovo will eventually kill the Moto line and that's a shame.
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Tel864 said:
No need to whine. Moto has always been an entry to mid level phone and you should have known that. If you want 64 bit OS then you need to set your sights higher. After owning 4 previous Moto G models I probably won't buy another. No just because of the OS but because I think the company is now run by a bunch of idiots that only looks to push out a sub-standard piece of hardware to the masses. Lenovo will eventually kill the Moto line and that's a shame.
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I agree with everything u said except "If you want 64bit os then you need to set your sights higher". There's n number of devices(Redmi note 4/yureka) than cost half the price of Moto g5 plus and run 64bit android. It's just a matter of choice for manufacturers and going with the 64bit version doesn't add up the cost of device
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I love when people who know nothing about what their talking about open their mouths. It makes zero difference if this phone is running a 32 or 64-bit OS. Seriously, ZERO difference. Every app on Android runs as it's own user and can address a 32-bit space of memory. So even if the phone had 6GB of ram, you could still use it all on a 32-bit OS. Just not all in one app. (And let's face it, you're not going to do that on your phone.) The maximum addressable memory chunk in 32-bit mode is 4GB. (2^32 = 4,294,967,296 bytes = 4,294,967,296 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 4,096 MB = 4GB)
Also, the build quality on this phone is great. It's $229 - $299. The **** do you people want?
Tel864 said:
No need to whine. Moto has always been an entry to mid level phone and you should have known that. If you want 64 bit OS then you need to set your sights higher. After owning 4 previous Moto G models I probably won't buy another. No just because of the OS but because I think the company is now run by a bunch of idiots that only looks to push out a sub-standard piece of hardware to the masses. Lenovo will eventually kill the Moto line and that's a shame.
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Oh, the contradictions...
If you know that the Moto G series is a mid level phone, then why whine about it's supossedly sub-standard hardware and buy one? Makes no sense.
The phone has an excellent SoC with 4GB of ram and a great camera. Everything for a great price. You get android 7.0 out of the box with high chances that you'll get even Android 9.
I don't know why we complain about a phone that never pretended to be a flagship.
bornlivedie said:
Oh, the contradictions...
If you know that the Moto G series is a mid level phone, then why whine about it's supossedly sub-standard hardware and buy one? Makes no sense.
The phone has an excellent SoC with 4GB of ram and a great camera. Everything for a great price. You get android 7.0 out of the box with high chances that you'll get even Android 9.
I don't know why we complain about a phone that never pretended to be a flagship.
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I agree [emoji111]
That's the reason I chose Moto g over lenovo P2 in the first place,
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triggerlord said:
I love when people who know nothing about what their talking about open their mouths. It makes zero difference if this phone is running a 32 or 64-bit OS. Seriously, ZERO difference. Every app on Android runs as it's own user and can address a 32-bit space of memory. So even if the phone had 6GB of ram, you could still use it all on a 32-bit OS. Just not all in one app. (And let's face it, you're not going to do that on your phone.) The maximum addressable memory chunk in 32-bit mode is 4GB. (2^32 = 4,294,967,296 bytes = 4,294,967,296 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 4,096 MB = 4GB)
Also, the build quality on this phone is great. It's $229 - $299. The **** do you people want?
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I have got all I wanted for the price with Moto g, and I agree that in general no-one can differentiate between the performance of a 32/64bit android, if it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have even noticed, it was all so snappy as expected [emoji4]
Btw I got this 4/32gb varient for $190, due to an exchange offer [emoji41]
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Question Redmagic 6s Pro Antutu score/Memory seems to not working as fast a it would be.

Hello.
I just recieved a few days my Nubia redmagic 6S pro 16GO+256GO(Ghost), for testing if everything is okay i did a antutu test but i didn't get the score i should get.
By looking some benchmark on the internet and using the same version of antutu that the others testers the usual score is around 874k-878k but for me is more 864k-868k.
I have the same score in CPU/GPU and UX so it's okay is this side but the memory side is slower that even the 6 Pro of around 10k, the usual score memory is around 150-152k.
So i test the speed of the memory itself and i got SqR 1470MB/s and SqW 680MB/s,
the sequence read should be at around 1900-2000MB/s and the sequence write at 750-800MB/s.
(I link you up the score for prove)
So i don't know if i got a defective memory or got a damaged device by the transport i don't think that the case but it's seems like the international rom and update version of the phone as a problem that the North america/asia rom doesn't have, the memory seems slowed in the international version, the hardware seems not fully dectected in antutu too
I want to know your score with the 6S PRO and the rom you use.
Thanks you in advance for reading this.
Nubia uses slower memory on some units to save costs. I remember i had the same issue on my Redmagic 5G. A friend of mine used to get much higher score in memory on same device. It seems to be completely random..
wow if is it real i'll return that sh*t right away, but are one update or a different rom like us/china one can influe performance ?
Kallavas said:
wow if is it real i'll return that sh*t right away, but are one update or a different rom like us/china one can influe performance ?
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My Redmagic 5G memory performance didn't change by switching to CN or Global ROM. It's a hardware thing..
Ok, i was thinking that maybe the International EU version 3.10 as some problem detecting the hardware even antutu didn't detected the hardware well, that probably cause some issue with the speed maybe i get delusional.
I'll go use my 15 days return right

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