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I've unlocked my bootloader but I am stock with no root. I haven't done anything yet because I'm waiting for twrp and Roms to mature a bit before I dive right in. Does anybody know if it's safe to update and keep the unlocked bootloader?
I know it should be safe to do the full image flash from a computer using fastboot. I am specifically talking about the ota
lars1110 said:
I know it should be safe to do the full image flash from a computer using fastboot. I am specifically talking about the ota
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Yes, it's safe to take the OTA as long as your bootloader is already unlocked.
Yes, I installed it with no problem. Boot loader is still unlocked, and the new move gestures are mostly OK.
I lost the ability to use the native Hotspot with my unlimited data plan on Verizon. It appears the update closed the workaround where you could use network refresher and bypass the provisioning check.
Awesome thanks everybody about to do the OTA now
Mike01680 said:
I lost the ability to use the native Hotspot with my unlimited data plan on Verizon. It appears the update closed the workaround where you could use network refresher and bypass the provisioning check.
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Damn that sucks. I'll be avoiding it for now then. Really don't want to root. I like android pay. But I need tethering
You can update... The OTA didn't work on my phone so I had to sideload it through ADB, still unlocked and worked like a charm
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I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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Krunk83 said:
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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You can before this update that was just released. You have to unlock before taking update or you won't be able to unlock. Once you unlock you can still update with no problem
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Krunk83 said:
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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There is a tool that can force unlock the bootloader (depixel8?), but the exploit that it uses has been closed with this update.
Krunk83 said:
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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You can if your on 7.1 but not if your on 7.1.1
EDIT: I misread the posting. It is locked in 7.1.1.
Scott said:
This is not correct. @jcase stated he updated the tool to work with 7.1.1...
I'll see if I can find that post again...
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Really?? The news has been all over that the 7.1.1 update patched dePixel8. He even posted on his website about it and said to not ask for further support. I assumed he didn't have a pixel so wasn't going to spend any more time on it. From my understanding the first method was very simple for them to figure out.
Please reply if you can find the post this will be big for everyone!
Krunk83 said:
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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You can unlock the bootloader with the dePixel8 method
Ad nauseum to the can you unlock or not. The latest update from Verizon makes the Verizon model locked. Period. If you haven't unlocked already, don't update to 7.1.1. If you plan to unlock. Depixel8 DOES NOT work for verizon pixel once the 7.1.1 update has been applied. If you unlock.... Don't relock. End of story. Stop with the round and round.
318sugarhill said:
Damn that sucks. I'll be avoiding it for now then. Really don't want to root. I like android pay. But I need tethering
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I'm pretty sure you can root, change the build.prop to allow tethering, unroot, then install a custom kernel with the safetynet bypass feature and still use android pay.
So taking the OTA and flashing boot to root after will work if I'm understanding everything I've read this far? Also I have been unable to find the build specific for 7.1.1 for Verizon to download.
cntryby429 said:
I'm pretty sure you can root, change the build.prop to allow tethering, unroot, then install a custom kernel with the safetynet bypass feature and still use android pay.
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Is this true? If so where is the post to someone doing this exact thing?
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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You can use Android Pay with Magisk I believe. Magisk passes saftey net checks.
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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Those downsides are enough for some, but the biggest PITA is if you didn't unlock your bootloader then you have to factory wipe when you unlock.
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Those downsides are enough for some, but the biggest PITA is if you didn't unlock your bootloader then you have to factory wipe when you unlock.
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well google backsup your app, mms, sms etc and the way you have your phone set up. Easy to restore and takes 30 mins depending on your connection.... I say go for it!
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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for some it is android pay
but for others
they don't need it anymore
stock rom nowadays give us most of the options that we needed to root for back in the day
i used the pixel 2 without root for 1 week (before it came out )
and the only thing i need it for was adaway and custom kernels
i used non-root adblocker and it's actually worked fine
so if i am stuck with a phone with no root i can live with it
I always root, but the big downsides are around OTAs and needing to jump through hoops from time to time to update.
Finally it's a security issue, particularly a unlocked bootloader, it's super easy to erase pin or pattern locks from twrp. Also malware in a root app could be devastating to any info you access via phone.
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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Because some security flaws that come along and some malicious apps expose the fact that you have root to be more effective.
If a good and stable rom like Pure Nexus that passes safety net works flawlessly on the Pixel XL 2 then that would probably be enough for me not to root. That would provide enough features and excitement to the already great experience that stock android now provides. Right now, i enjoy root in order to apply adaway and delete system apps if i so choose. Also nice to be able to use different color profiles. I am one of those that loves to be able to use Android Pay while rooted.
elreydenj said:
If a good and stable rom like Pure Nexus that passes safety net works flawlessly on the Pixel XL 2 then that would probably be enough for me not to root. That would provide enough features and excitement to the already great experience that stock android now provides. Right now, i enjoy root in order to apply adaway and delete system apps if i so choose. Also nice to be able to use different color profiles. I am one of those that loves to be able to use Android Pay while rooted.
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I'm just here praying they're working on Resurrection Remix.
I was on PureNexus and decided what the hell and tried RR and it has everything PureNexus has and more.
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I'm just here praying they're working on Resurrection Remix.
I was on PureNexus and decided what the hell and tried RR and it has everything PureNexus has and more.
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Ill keep that in mind. Did RR pass safety net out of the box on the pixel XL?
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Ill keep that in mind. Did RR pass safety net out of the box on the pixel XL?
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I don't remember. Sorry. :/
I used to be an avid rooter and custom rom user. For me, I'm contempt with the stock factory images. May give PureNexus a shot if it comes around.
Besides, I had an incident with Chase Bank once where I was having trouble getting text alerts. After an hour on the phone with support, they noticed and mentioned I had a "tampered" device. Not that my problem had anything to do with my device being tampered with (rooted), and not that I had any modifications which could cause harm to my banking information, but in the long shot case something did ever happen with your money, I'm sure the banks would have no problem pointing their fingers at your phone.
So if a company like Chase scans to see if your device is rooted, I'm sure most app developers do without telling you.
If someone wants to chime in, not exactly sure how apps see it if you have a rom like Resurrection Remix, or PureNexus, and actually dont root it. I wonder if the apps still consider the device tampered with if there is no root access
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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You can MOST definitely have Android pay with Root in Pixel. That is the beauty of dual partition setup. Have one partition rooted and other non-rooted, with both sharing the same data partition.
I had done this for the past year on the OG Pixel XL. The only time I would need non-root would be for Android pay - I would just boot to the other slot. Use Android pay and then reboot to the previously active slot after finished.
As for Custom ROM - I'm hoping against hope. Hard to imagine life without the features of PN or RR. However, it is not encouraging given that there is no a single OREO based Custom ROM yet for the OG Pixel XL. Who knows how many developers actually end up getting the Pixel 2 XL - which is more expensive. That is the only reason I'm still waiting with bated breath until my return period for Pixel 2 XL expires. Luckily, the One Plus 5t launches on Nov 16th and the reviews would be out soon. I know OP5 has RR custom ROM which is a big deal..
abogrhen said:
for some it is android pay
but for others
they don't need it anymore
stock rom nowadays give us most of the options that we needed to root for back in the day
i used the pixel 2 without root for 1 week (before it came out )
and the only thing i need it for was adaway and custom kernels
i used non-root adblocker and it's actually worked fine
so if i am stuck with a phone with no root i can live with it
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Yes to all this. I haven't rooted since my Galaxy S5. I was perfectly fine with my Nexus 5X stock and do use Android Pay often enough to want to remain unrooted. I actually used to root and install stock-like ROMs so now that I've been getting Google phones, I have no need.
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Hello everyone!
I have a Verizon Pixel XL (128 GB, unlimited photo upload to Google at original resolution!) with Oreo 8.1, OEM bootloader locked. I understand we need the bootloader unlocked to be able to root the phone. I need the phone rooted so I can install and use the automatic call recorder (it's legal where I live). Currently, it only records my end of the conversation.
1. Is it possible to downgrade to 7.1.0 so the bootloader can be unlocked (and subsequently root it)? If so, is this (https://developers.google.com/android/ota) the right page to get the factory images? What is the process to flash 7.1.0 onto the device replacing the 8.1 that I currently have? Can I simply "factory reset" the phone to get the original OS that came with it?
2. If I were able to downgrade it, can I use dePixel8 to root it?
3. If I did manage to root it on 7.1.0, can I upgrade to 8.1 (and any future updates) while keeping the phone rooted?
4. What is OG Pixel/ OG Pixel XL? I searched everywhere but couldn't find what exactly it is.
Thank you for your time!
1 - So, if I recall correctly you can't downgrade having a locked bootloader, even though you manage to downgrade as far as I know you will maintain your security patch version, which mean you will be on the latest anyway, and without the possibility to root. There's no current method for rooting the Verizon Pixel with Android 7.2.0+.
2, 3 - previous answer for them too.
4 - OG means "Original Gangster" which is a slang for referring to the first version of something, which it's the same as if someone says pixel 1.
Hope my answers are helpful, I'm in the same boat.
Edit: some corrections.
Thank you, liriolebron! Looks like there is no way to root this phone. Time to go back to my Note 5 (6.0.1) where the Call Recorder worked without rooting.
ynag said:
Thank you, liriolebron! Looks like there is no way to root this phone. Time to go back to my Note 5 (6.0.1) where the Call Recorder worked without rooting.
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Try this - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nll.acr
It works without root. I turn off the constant notification and use the quick settings tile. ?
ChongoDroid said:
Try this - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nll.acr
It works without root. I turn off the constant notification and use the quick settings tile.
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Not working for me. I tried that, Boldbeast, Appliqato and GlobalEffect. None of them worked on this phone. Sigh!
ynag said:
Not working for me. I tried that, Boldbeast, Appliqato and GlobalEffect. None of them worked on this phone. Sigh!
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It must be carrier specific because it works for me
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Works with pixel 1, Android P (beta)
ChongoDroid said:
Try this - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nll.acr
It works without root. I turn off the constant notification and use the quick settings tile.
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I'm delighted to confirm that ACR works with pixel on Android P (beta). Although the recording voice levels are low.
Pretty self explanatory. I have the update pending for 8.0 but I've heard mixed reviews of the Oreo updates. So please, if anyone can be honest and tell me weather to proceed, or should I wait and why. Thanks you.
If it's a Verizon model you just have a gem in your hands, look on how to unlock the bootloader before update, if it's a Google version, then all you get are improvements and new features without compromises.
liriolebron said:
If it's a Verizon model you just have a gem in your hands, look on how to unlock the bootloader before update, if it's a Google version, then all you get are improvements and new features without compromises.
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What's the best way to check if it's Verizon? And I don't need to root or anything honestly. I'm asking if the bugs with 8.0 are worth updating at the current state.
I recommend unlocking bootloader first and then update
So by unlocking the bootloader, I won't run into problems taking official updates?
nellycruzz said:
So by unlocking the bootloader, I won't run into problems taking official updates?
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No. If you modify system (root, Magisk, custom ROMs/kernels, TWRP recovery, etc) then you won't be able to take official OTA updates. But you can take them just fine with an unlocked bootloader.
Also, I'm on stock 8.1 and have no issues to speak of. I say go for it.
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nellycruzz said:
So by unlocking the bootloader, I won't run into problems taking official updates?
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FYI If phone is a Verizon version an on 7.1.1 you are able to unlock it. If you update beyond 7.1.1 without unlocking you will Never be able to unlock it. If it's a Google version no worries.
There's no reason to unlock the bootloader if you're not rooting. That's just introducing a security issue. The Oreo update is safe and stable to install. You're good to go on hitting that update button.
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There's no reason to unlock the bootloader if you're not rooting. That's just introducing a security issue. The Oreo update is safe and stable to install. You're good to go on hitting that update button.
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I disagree. On rare occasion, the OTA update can cause issues, and with a locked bootloader you are unable to install an image. Even if I don't root my devices, I still unlock the bootloader just so I can have the option of installing a factory image just in case something goes wrong.
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borxnx said:
I disagree. On rare occasion, the OTA update can cause issues, and with a locked bootloader you are unable to install an image. Even if I don't root my devices, I still unlock the bootloader just so I can have the option of installing a factory image just in case something goes wrong.
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He's right though. Unlocking will lead to security issues and may take away the ability to use important apps. If he prioritizes functionality, then it's best to keep it locked but if he wants to tinker, it'll come with compromises.
Since he just bought it, I don't see why he couldn't just warranty it if an update goes wrong, which is extremely rare. From what I've seen from people with bricked devices, the majority of them were unlocked and tried to update using non-conventional ways.
Bootloaders are locked from factory for a reason, not for inconvenience.
I haven't seen much discussion of rooting in the last year. Is it as simple as unlocking and installing Magisk?
I've been putting off upgrading to EMUI 10. Should I stay with 9.1? Can I upgrade before or after unlocking/rooting and still have root?
I see this website is still advertising unlock codes for $45. Are they reliable? Is there any better alternative?
https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below
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I haven't seen much discussion of rooting in the last year. Is it as simple as unlocking and installing Magisk?
I've been putting off upgrading to EMUI 10. Should I stay with 9.1? Can I upgrade before or after unlocking/rooting and still have root?
I see this website is still advertising unlock codes for $45. Are they reliable? Is there any better alternative?
https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below
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With a locked bootloader aside why root it? No need. Its an almost perfect phone.
Jojokoo said:
With a locked bootloader aside why root it? No need. Its an almost perfect phone.
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I agree that it is an almost perfect phone, but I also use it for some development work with a Bluetooth keyboard while plugged into a USB-C monitor.
There are a few cases where I'd like to have raw access to the network interfaces with wireshark as well as being able to configure a few keyboard shortcuts that aren't possible without root.
I won't be installing any ROMs, just want root.
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I haven't seen much discussion of rooting in the last year. Is it as simple as unlocking and installing Magisk?
I've been putting off upgrading to EMUI 10. Should I stay with 9.1? Can I upgrade before or after unlocking/rooting and still have root?
I see this website is still advertising unlock codes for $45. Are they reliable? Is there any better alternative?
https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below
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Root isn't possible once phone is updated to 10, Huawei changed the file-system to EROFS (Extendable Read-Only File System) preventing any changes that would allow to unlock the bootloader. I've updated and lost root, haven't spent the time to roll it back to 9.1. But from what I've read, I'll have root back once I do.
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Jojokoo said:
With a locked bootloader aside why root it? No need. Its an almost perfect phone.
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I've used root to get around Huawei blocking user from 3rd party launchers as default and to uninstall all the bloatware that they pre-install.
ben63vw said:
I've used root to get around Huawei blocking user from 3rd party launchers as default and to uninstall all the bloatware that they pre-install.
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I've read that you can buy an unlock code. But does it really work?
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Jojokoo said:
I've read that you can buy an unlock code. But does it really work?
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I bought one over a year ago for ~$20, and it works on this phone only up to Android 9.1. As I stated in reply to robsmith11, root isn't possible once phone is updated to 10, Huawei changed the file-system to EROFS (Extendable Read-Only File System) preventing any changes that would allow to unlock the bootloader. I've updated and lost root, haven't spent the time to roll it back to 9.1. But from what I've read, I'll have root back once I do.
ben63vw said:
I bought one over a year ago for ~$20, and it works on this phone only up to Android 9.1. As I stated in reply to robsmith11, root isn't possible once phone is updated to 10, Huawei changed the file-system to EROFS (Extendable Read-Only File System) preventing any changes that would allow to unlock the bootloader. I've updated and lost root, haven't spent the time to roll it back to 9.1. But from what I've read, I'll have root back once I do.
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Gotcha.. thanks man.