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i know were building up this huge bounty thread, and everyone is definitely raising attention that we don't have root, but is anyone actually actively working on rooting the n4? I've been lurking around regularly while i wait for mine, but haven't seen anyone actually say they're looking for a root.
i just have this horrible picture in my head that everyone is thinking 'there's so many ppl here surely somebody must be working on something big, ready to drop an announcement any day now'.. and in reality the only ppl here are the ones asking if somebody else is doing something about it.
sooo who's been looking for root? what findings have you found so far, what looks exploitable, are you still waiting to get your hands on your note 4? yeah me too. anybody else have some useful exploits or findings to report?
lets do a status update
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So how about we update the root thread we already have?
Focus on the boot loader not root.
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Focus on the boot loader not root.
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Root is a more obtainable goal! Think back at the last 2 Sammy devices with locked bootloaders, both have bounty threads, and neither was ever unlocked. Now look back and BOTH were able to obtain root. Yes unlocking the bootloader would make everything easier, but in terms of the probability, root will be obtained before the bootloader surface is even scratched. I hope I'm wrong, I would love an unlocked bootloader, but I'm highly skeptical that will ever happen, let alone before root or before Lollipop is FORCED onto our unrooted phones by AT&T.
I just want Adaway and Xposed. Why can't they just let me do what I want with the UI at least? I understand Adaway and why they don't want that but I should be able to kake an app full screen or change the dpi of an app if I want to..
scoot05redss said:
Root is a more obtainable goal! Think back at the last 2 Sammy devices with locked bootloaders, both have bounty threads, and neither was ever unlocked. Now look back and BOTH were able to obtain root. Yes unlocking the bootloader would make everything easier, but in terms of the probability, root will be obtained before the bootloader surface is even scratched. I hope I'm wrong, I would love an unlocked bootloader, but I'm highly skeptical that will ever happen, let alone before root or before Lollipop is FORCED onto our unrooted phones by AT&T.
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Do you research root will not last without the bootloader unlocked. When Android 5.0 rolls out root will be broken on all devices PERMANENTLY unless the boot loader is unlocked. Samsung plans on rolling out 5.0 to the Note 4 in December. That means that even if root is achieved you are talking about only having it for 40 days. You will not be able to turn off updates. So eventually when you reboot your device it will auto install android 5.0 and break root for you forever. So go ahead and have a dev waste his time on getting root that will last about 40 days. The future of this phones root and custom development is all riding on unlocking the bootloader.
Don't count it out the LG G# on AT&T got the bootloader unlocked. But the effort needs to be on that not on root. Root is a waste of time.
ShrekOpher said:
Do you research root will not last without the bootloader unlocked. When Android 5.0 rolls out root will be broken on all devices PERMANENTLY unless the boot loader is unlocked. Samsung plans on rolling out 5.0 to the Note 4 in December. That means that even if root is achieved you are talking about only having it for 40 days. You will not be able to turn off updates. So eventually when you reboot your device it will auto install android 5.0 and break root for you forever. So go ahead and have a dev waste his time on getting root that will last about 40 days. The future of this phones root and custom development is all riding on unlocking the bootloader.
Don't count it out the LG G# on AT&T got the bootloader unlocked. But the effort needs to be on that not on root. Root is a waste of time.
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yeah i totally see where you're coming from saying that, and can't say i wouldn't love to see my note on 5.0 too, but if it comes down to the features i 'need' vs the features i don't even know exist yet (5.0), I'd probably just choose to ride out my note 4 on KitKat.
it IS the touchwiz stuff that makes the note experience unique, not so much the new android versions.
pluuuuuuus can't sound any cooler than KitKat!!
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It's all about immediate goals.
I'd rather ride a bicycle today than wait 10 years to get licensed to fly a plane.
scoot05redss said:
Root is a more obtainable goal! Think back at the last 2 Sammy devices with locked bootloaders, both have bounty threads, and neither was ever unlocked. Now look back and BOTH were able to obtain root. Yes unlocking the bootloader would make everything easier, but in terms of the probability, root will be obtained before the bootloader surface is even scratched. I hope I'm wrong, I would love an unlocked bootloader, but I'm highly skeptical that will ever happen, let alone before root or before Lollipop is FORCED onto our unrooted phones by AT&T.
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soraxd said:
yeah i totally see where you're coming from saying that, and can't say i wouldn't love to see my note on 5.0 too, but if it comes down to the features i 'need' vs the features i don't even know exist yet (5.0), I'd probably just choose to ride out my note 4 on KitKat.
it IS the touchwiz stuff that makes the note experience unique, not so much the new android versions.
pluuuuuuus can't sound any cooler than KitKat!!
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fbauto1 said:
It's all about immediate goals.
I'd rather ride a bicycle today than wait 10 years to get licensed to fly a plane.
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This applies to all 3 of you.
You will be forced to upgrade to Lollipop even on a rooted phone because you won't have a customer ROM so AT&T will still push the update. Eventually when you reboot your phone it will upgrade you to lollipop. The only way to prevent this is to NEVER use wifi. Otherwise the update will start automatically and eventually it will upgrade you to Android 5.0 whether you like it or not.
So go ahead and "ride your bike" the the next 40-60 days, then AT&T is going to run it over with a bus and you will lose root forever without an unlocked boot loader.
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This applies to all 3 of you.
You will be forced to upgrade to Lollipop even on a rooted phone because you won't have a customer ROM so AT&T will still push the update. Eventually when you reboot your phone it will upgrade you to lollipop. The only way to prevent this is to NEVER use wifi. Otherwise the update will start automatically and eventually it will upgrade you to Android 5.0 whether you like it or not.
So go ahead and "ride your bike" the the next 40-60 days, then AT&T is going to run it over with a bus and you will lose root forever without an unlocked boot loader.
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Wrong, because I'll use TiBU and freeze the OTA application and that can't force anything, like I did on my Note 3!
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Wrong, because I'll use TiBU and freeze the OTA application and that can't force anything, like I did on my Note 3!
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I'm not sure that possible on this phone. There is a thread over in the t mobile section for the Note 4 addressing this. It is not a stand alone app on this phone. It is built into the system and probably can't be frozen. There are concerns that they will have to get a custom kernel finished before the update rolls out on that phone even though they have an unlocked boot loader, otherwise people will lose root for good.
Check it out there is a lot of chatter right now on the future of root for this phone, basically from all of the research I have done the only chance at all you can keep root is with an unlocked boot loader and a custom kernel. Before the update for 5.0 rolls out.
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I'm not sure that possible on this phone. There is a thread over in the t mobile section for the Note 4 addressing this. It is not a stand alone app on this phone. It is built into the system and probably can't be frozen. There are concerns that they will have to get a custom kernel finished before the update rolls out on that phone even though they have an unlocked boot loader, otherwise people will lose root for good.
Check it out there is a lot of chatter right now on the future of root for this phone, basically from all of the research I have done the only chance at all you can keep root is with an unlocked boot loader and a custom kernel. Before the update for 5.0 rolls out.
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Link me that thread if you don't mind good sir! It sounds like it's worth a read! All this AT&T locking crap, really has me wanting to go Nexus, but since they signed up for the 6, it'll probably be locked down too!
ShrekOpher said:
This applies to all 3 of you.
You will be forced to upgrade to Lollipop even on a rooted phone because you won't have a customer ROM so AT&T will still push the update. Eventually when you reboot your phone it will upgrade you to lollipop. The only way to prevent this is to NEVER use wifi. Otherwise the update will start automatically and eventually it will upgrade you to Android 5.0 whether you like it or not.
So go ahead and "ride your bike" the the next 40-60 days, then AT&T is going to run it over with a bus and you will lose root forever without an unlocked boot loader.
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with root you can just yank the att fwupdate.apk out.
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Wrong, because I'll use TiBU and freeze the OTA application and that can't force anything, like I did on my Note 3!
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Yup. I will do the exact same thing if root is achieved before the push 5.0m I did it on my Note 3 and never had a single worry about Knox or any OTAs. I don't know why this guy is so adamant with the scare tactics.... Just give me root and I am g2g.
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ShrekOpher said:
I'm not sure that possible on this phone. There is a thread over in the t mobile section for the Note 4 addressing this. It is not a stand alone app on this phone. It is built into the system and probably can't be frozen. There are concerns that they will have to get a custom kernel finished before the update rolls out on that phone even though they have an unlocked boot loader, otherwise people will lose root for good.
Check it out there is a lot of chatter right now on the future of root for this phone, basically from all of the research I have done the only chance at all you can keep root is with an unlocked boot loader and a custom kernel. Before the update for 5.0 rolls out.
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Please satisfy our collective curiosity and provide a link. Thanks.
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scoot05redss said:
Wrong, because I'll use TiBU and freeze the OTA application and that can't force anything, like I did on my Note 3!
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Lol u just pwned that dude
ShrekOpher said:
I'm not sure that possible on this phone. There is a thread over in the t mobile section for the Note 4 addressing this. It is not a stand alone app on this phone. It is built into the system and probably can't be frozen. There are concerns that they will have to get a custom kernel finished before the update rolls out on that phone even though they have an unlocked boot loader, otherwise people will lose root for good.
Check it out there is a lot of chatter right now on the future of root for this phone, basically from all of the research I have done the only chance at all you can keep root is with an unlocked boot loader and a custom kernel. Before the update for 5.0 rolls out.
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Lol, says the guy who keeps telling everyone to do research and that even if we get root we will lose it in 40-60 days.
Dude, you are laughable. You keep telling people to do research, yet you have no clue what you are talking about half the time.
Please describe what you mean by "built into the system". I (and am sure many others) would love to hear your explanation on that one lol.
I'm sure the t-mobile forums will love you. Good luck.
scoot05redss said:
Root is a more obtainable goal! Think back at the last 2 Sammy devices with locked bootloaders, both have bounty threads, and neither was ever unlocked. Now look back and BOTH were able to obtain root. Yes unlocking the bootloader would make everything easier, but in terms of the probability, root will be obtained before the bootloader surface is even scratched. I hope I'm wrong, I would love an unlocked bootloader, but I'm highly skeptical that will ever happen, let alone before root or before Lollipop is FORCED onto our unrooted phones by AT&T.
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You know... I hadn't thought of that... LolliPop being pushed to our phones prior to being able to obtain root... without at least root, we can't disable the OTA and after "asking" a few times, it will just happen. Once that occurs, getting root seems even more unlikely than it already is...
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ShrekOpher said:
Do you research root will not last without the bootloader unlocked. When Android 5.0 rolls out root will be broken on all devices PERMANENTLY unless the boot loader is unlocked. Samsung plans on rolling out 5.0 to the Note 4 in December. That means that even if root is achieved you are talking about only having it for 40 days. You will not be able to turn off updates. So eventually when you reboot your device it will auto install android 5.0 and break root for you forever. So go ahead and have a dev waste his time on getting root that will last about 40 days. The future of this phones root and custom development is all riding on unlocking the bootloader.
Don't count it out the LG G# on AT&T got the bootloader unlocked. But the effort needs to be on that not on root. Root is a waste of time.
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You are terribly mistaken... If root is obtained you can disable the updates & OTA apk's, which would prevent the 5.0 update from being pushed down. But if AT&T starts pushing LolliPop BEFORE we get root, it's a done deal.
This might be the very reason we see a very accelerated deployment of LollioPop by AT&T. Haven't we all been complaining that the carriers take too long "certifying" OS updates before releasing them? Now we may not have that problem...
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You know... I hadn't thought of that... LolliPop being pushed to our phones prior to being able to obtain root... without at least root, we can't disable the OTA and after "asking" a few times, it will just happen. Once that occurs, getting root seems even more unlikely than it already is...
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You are terribly mistaken... If root is obtained you can disable the updates & OTA apk's, which would prevent the 5.0 update from being pushed down. But if AT&T starts pushing LolliPop BEFORE we get root, it's a done deal.
This might be the very reason we see a very accelerated deployment of LollioPop by AT&T. Haven't we all been complaining that the carriers take too long "certifying" OS updates before releasing them? Now we may not have that problem...
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jajaa then we still have Odin ^^
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With all of this in mind, i think i will just return mine and get the t-mobile note 4.
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Got mine today from Korea and I need it to be rooted!
Looks like no one has been able to?
The price you pay for being on the bloody edge is that sometimes when you're one of the first to have a new device no one has had the device to develop exploits for it.
You can always feel free to jump in and develop the method and publish it.
Best of luck.
no root yet OP. to dam early for that. what area you live in?
cant wait for USA release. im sure these g4 threads will boom after that
Try the one click root on this post. It rooted my LG G Pad 8. It should work for any LG:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-l90/general/guide-root-lg-l90-running-d41510e-t3072568
MicroMod777 said:
Try the one click root on this post. It rooted my LG G Pad 8. It should work for any LG:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-l90/general/guide-root-lg-l90-running-d41510e-t3072568
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This uses an exploit that does not work on the LG G4 (ability to remount /system as read/write instead of read only).
All of the existing root scripts that I have found execute the command "mount -rw,remount /system".
In earlier LG phones this command was successful. In the LG G4 this command fails (No Permissions) so the older exploits don't work.
ChitownWingMan said:
This uses an exploit that does not work on the LG G4 (ability to remount /system as read/write instead of read only).
All of the existing root scripts that I have found execute the command "mount -rw,remount /system".
In earlier LG phones this command was successful. In the LG G4 this command fails (No Permissions) so the older exploits don't work.
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Did you try the g flex 2 rooting method?
rooting is one of the reason I've joined here. Will wait for updates. I'm itching to try it on my upcoming G4. Hopefully, I won't messed up this time around
Try Kingroot
poczynek said:
Got mine today from Korea and I need it to be rooted!
Looks like no one has been able to?
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http://www.smartphoneclinics.com/root-lg-g4-stylus-h631-one-click-method/
here you go have fun =D #getrekt
try kingroot v4
Tic0 said:
http://www.smartphoneclinics.com/root-lg-g4-stylus-h631-one-click-method/
here you go have fun =D #getrekt
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You got this to work on the G4?
A few questions for the uninitiated of LG Android. I am not familiar with the LG Android ecosystem, been with Motorola and just got off of Samsung. If I root the G4 now, how will that affect getting OTA updates and installing them? (like if I root would that hinder my ability to get conventional OTA downloads and being able to install them normally? Like if it would set my "status" to "custom".)
I'd REALLY like to be able to uninstall Facebook and Messenger! Would uninstalling them also possibly hinder my ability to get OTA updates and installing them?
Last will I have to worry about voiding my warranty like you would with a Samsung device if you root that and say tripped the knox counter??
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A few questions for the uninitiated of LG Android. I am not familiar with the LG Android ecosystem, been with Motorola and just got off of Samsung. If I root the G4 now, how will that affect getting OTA updates and installing them? (like if I root would that hinder my ability to get conventional OTA downloads and being able to install them normally? Like if it would set my "status" to "custom".)
I'd REALLY like to be able to uninstall Facebook and Messenger! Would uninstalling them also possibly hinder my ability to get OTA updates and installing them?
Last will I have to worry about voiding my warranty like you would with a Samsung device if you root that and say tripped the knox counter??
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As far as I remember, just rooting your phone doesn't take away OTA availability. You'd have to freeze or delete the files that control that process with a root explorer
Delirious17 said:
A few questions for the uninitiated of LG Android. I am not familiar with the LG Android ecosystem, been with Motorola and just got off of Samsung. If I root the G4 now, how will that affect getting OTA updates and installing them? (like if I root would that hinder my ability to get conventional OTA downloads and being able to install them normally? Like if it would set my "status" to "custom".)
I'd REALLY like to be able to uninstall Facebook and Messenger! Would uninstalling them also possibly hinder my ability to get OTA updates and installing them?
Last will I have to worry about voiding my warranty like you would with a Samsung device if you root that and say tripped the knox counter??
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You definitely want to make sure Ota is blocked , I remember on my rooted and TWRP installed stock G2, when the first Ota came through tons of people almost ended up with bricked phones, thankfully someone found a way around it, but it wasn't looking good for a second., after that I just flashed a modified stock room to eliminate the risk of OTA
Tic0 said:
http://www.smartphoneclinics.com/root-lg-g4-stylus-h631-one-click-method/
here you go have fun =D #getrekt
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Way different phone
well got this **** to work when SU told me to reinstall with twrp -_- i rebooted and lost root now i can't get it to work (semi bricked FML)
Also used other root apps so might be a combo problem of this **** is the system mount/un-mount i had this with my s3 once it disabled my internal sd, so i need an twrp to get it back going or i'll just call my insurance
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well got this **** to work when SU told me to reinstall with twrp -_- i rebooted and lost root now i can't get it to work (semi bricked FML)
Also used other root apps so might be a combo problem of this **** is the system mount/un-mount i had this with my s3 once it disabled my internal sd, so i need an twrp to get it back going or i'll just call my insurance
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If SU told you to reinstall with TWRP it didnt work
Delirious17 said:
A few questions for the uninitiated of LG Android. I am not familiar with the LG Android ecosystem, been with Motorola and just got off of Samsung. If I root the G4 now, how will that affect getting OTA updates and installing them...
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You will not root the G4 now. The bootloader is still not unlocked. After that we can expect root to follow. One forum member said the ul bl and root would be available at the same time - but now is not the time.
Also, for the international version that I have - the UK H815, there is an option in settings not to download or install the OTA.
LancerV said:
If SU told you to reinstall with TWRP it didnt work
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*update but np my bad.
starfcker69 said:
You will not root the G4 now. The bootloader is still not unlocked. After that we can expect root to follow. One forum member said the ul bl and root would be available at the same time - but now is not the time.
Also, for the international version that I have - the UK H815, there is an option in settings not to download or install the OTA.
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You can achive root without unlocked BL, if you have an unlocked BL you can root without having to use exploits
Hi,
My HTC 10 is rooted, S-On, SU, boot loader unlocked, and running stock Nougat 7.0. As such, it doesn't get onlver the air {OTA}. I want OREO, and I understand that requires me to unroot. How do I unroot?
I hope to do an OTA and then reroot. If I really don't have to unroot, tell me please what to do to get OREO. My main attraction to rooting is to install AdAway.
Thanks,
Ndmand
These are what I did;
1. restore my stock rom via TWRP (which I backed-up long time ago)
2. flash back stock recovery (which I found form XDA). It will replace TWRP
3. OEM relocked
By then, I could get couple OTAs until I reach to Oreo.
After that, I went all the ways again => unlock bootloader (HtcDev) => flash latest TWRP => and so on.
Ndmand said:
Hi,
My HTC 10 is rooted, S-On, SU, boot loader unlocked, and running stock Nougat 7.0. As such, it doesn't get onlver the air {OTA}. I want OREO, and I understand that requires me to unroot. How do I unroot?
I hope to do an OTA and then reroot. If I really don't have to unroot, tell me please what to do to get OREO. My main attraction to rooting is to install AdAway.
Thanks,
Ndmand
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You really only need steps 1 and 2 from bita's post. If you don't have a stock system backup you can probably find one in the Backups thread.
Else, you can flash an ruu which will take you back fully stock but will also wipe your phone in the process.
bita said:
These are what I did;
1. restore my stock rom via TWRP (which I backed-up long time ago)
2. flash back stock recovery (which I found form XDA). It will replace TWRP
3. OEM relocked
By then, I could get couple OTAs until I reach to Oreo.
After that, I went all the ways again => unlock bootloader (HtcDev) => flash latest TWRP => and so on.
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Thank You,
This is exactly what I need. I interpret "OEM relocked" to mean that after flashing, you system was relocked, and you didn't have to separately relock your bootloader. I appreciate your help.
Ndmand
Tarima said:
You really only need steps 1 and 2 from bita's post. If you don't have a stock system backup you can probably find one in the Backups thread.
Else, you can flash an ruu which will take you back fully stock but will also wipe your phone in the process.
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Great, Thank You, Tarima,
Oddly, I was hoping you'd see my post because if the great help you have given to others. I deleted my stock backup by mistake last year.
My TWRP and Titanium backups are on an SD card, so I will remove the card to protect them during the process in case things go crazy.
I noticed that SU has an unroot button, but I guess that only covers part of the process.
Thank You,
Ndmand
Ndmand said:
Great, Thank You, Tarima,
Oddly, I was hoping you'd see my post because if the great help you have given to others. I deleted my stock backup by mistake last year.
My TWRP and Titanium backups are on an SD card, so I will remove the card to protect them during the process in case things go crazy.
I noticed that SU has an unroot button, but I guess that only covers part of the process.
Thank You,
Ndmand
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No problem. Yes, once you root with superSU, your system partition will be flagged permanently as modified even if you unroot. That's why you need to flash a virgin system backup image. This is also why I root with Magisk, as it makes taking OTA much easier. You may want to consider that as well when you root again.
I don't quite understand Magisk yet, but I will look into it. Thanks for making this doable and understandable.
Ndmand
Do a RUU and update ota , no need to relock bootloader, you will lose data if you do RUU
Which RUU is the right for the Oreo OTA?
I have installed the developer version, but I haven't received it. Also I knew that HTC had removed the OTA
Enviado desde mi HTC 10 mediante Tapatalk
oxineitor said:
Which RUU is the right for the Oreo OTA?
I have installed the developer version, but I haven't received it. Also I knew that HTC had removed the OTA
Enviado desde mi HTC 10 mediante Tapatalk
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U.S Unlocked has not yet received OTA. To go to Oreo you'll have to run the RUU.
Take the RUU posted by santod on this page:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297/page254
Newbie Here
Hi guys,
For several years now I've been getting help from you people and for that I am very appreciative. This is my first, of what I hope are many more posts.
I recently purchased a Sprint HTC 10 phone here in the Dominican Republic. It was factory unlocked already. It came with stock Oreo software. Yesterday I received an Oreo update, and this immediately locked my phone sim. I couldn't use it. Now thanks to you guys, I slept like at 1 am, but finally managed to get the phone unlocked thanks to this thread.
Now I have a problem. I'm not that of a techie guy to leave the phone rooted. Is it wise to unrooted back again? My main concern is, if I unroot the phone it will revert to having the sim lock, and that's a no go. So my question is: Do I unrooted? Can I, without damaging the phone? And if the answer is no, how do I proceed with my rooted phone to get the best out of it? I saw this video on youtube, it seems nice, but it is from 2015. Do I follow those steps or do something else to take advantage of my rooted device.
I would really appreciate your help.
Yank1llaz said:
Hi guys,
For several years now I've been getting help from you people and for that I am very appreciative. This is my first, of what I hope are many more posts.
I recently purchased a Sprint HTC 10 phone here in the Dominican Republic. It was factory unlocked already. It came with stock Oreo software. Yesterday I received an Oreo update, and this immediately locked my phone sim. I couldn't use it. Now thanks to you guys, I slept like at 1 am, but finally managed to get the phone unlocked thanks to this thread.
Now I have a problem. I'm not that of a techie guy to leave the phone rooted. Is it wise to unrooted back again? My main concern is, if I unroot the phone it will revert to having the sim lock, and that's a no go. So my question is: Do I unrooted? Can I, without damaging the phone? And if the answer is no, how do I proceed with my rooted phone to get the best out of it? I saw this video on youtube, it seems nice, but it is from 2015. Do I follow those steps or do something else to take advantage of my rooted device.
I would really appreciate your help.
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The only downside to being rooted is that you won't be able to take OTA updates any longer, or use certain apps that don't work with rooted devices (mostly banking apps). I'm almost 100% sure we won't get any more OTA updates for this phone, so unless you really need to use banking apps, I would leave the device rooted. Plus there are some nice things you can do while being rooted.
If you're rooted with Magisk you can still do all of the above.
Tarima said:
The only downside to being rooted is that you won't be able to take OTA updates any longer, or use certain apps that don't work with rooted devices (mostly banking apps). I'm almost 100% sure we won't get any more OTA updates for this phone, so unless you really need to use banking apps, I would leave the device rooted. Plus there are some nice things you can do while being rooted.
If you're rooted with Magisk you can still do all of the above.
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Thx Tarima. If so, what can I do with a rooted device? What are my inmediate options to upgrade the phone. Any ideas?
I thought you could take OTA?
I am WAY out of the info as I don't take them, but I'll search a little an come back with any findings.
andybones said:
I thought you could take OTA?
I am WAY out of the info as I don't take them, but I'll search a little an come back with any findings.
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Unless you're rooted with Magisk systemless root, you can't take OTA from a rooted state until you restore a stock system image, which I'm thinking might undo the SIM unlock procedure the OP had to do on his Sprint device.
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Yank1llaz said:
Thx Tarima. If so, what can I do with a rooted device? What are my inmediate options to upgrade the phone. Any ideas?
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That's what I was saying, there will 99% for sure be no other updates for this phone, so that's a non-issue. And if there is, you can run an RUU, return to stock, take the update, then do the sim unlock procedure again.
I do with root:
- Use Titanium Backup (great app backup app)
- Use F.lux app for blue light reduction
- Use Adaway ad blocker
Tarima said:
I do with root:
- Use Titanium Backup (great app backup app)
- Use F.lux app for blue light reduction
- Use Adaway ad blocker
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Process for those. Sorry for being such a pain in the behind.
Yank1llaz said:
Process for those. Sorry for being such a pain in the behind.
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What do you mean by "process for those"? They're apps, you just install them from the play store
Actually I think Adaway needs to be downloaded from their own site
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What do you mean by "process for those"? They're apps, you just install them from the play store
Actually I think Adaway needs to be downloaded from their own site
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Downloaded the one for blue light. How about the adaway one? When dowloading the files within the app, it does not allow me and reads:
"copying of host file failed"
Yank1llaz said:
Downloaded the one for blue light. How about the adaway one? When dowloading the files within the app, it does not allow me and reads:
"copying of host file failed"
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Sorry not sure about that, you'll have to ask in the appropriate forum.
I came across this post on GitHub
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2534
I wanted to ask if I should continue using root or just relock my phone ?
tanzeel.ahmed1306 said:
I came across this post on GitHub
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2534
I wanted to ask if I should continue using root or just relock my phone ?
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Unlocking your bootloader and rooting your devices is a choice that you and only you can make. There are always risks when modifying your devices. When you unlock the bootloader on most devices it will void your warranty unless stated otherwise by the manufacturer.
When it comes to root access there is always a chance for things to stop working. That is why it is up to you to do your research and make an informed decision before taking any action.
To some people, including me, an unlockable bootloader and gaining root access over a device is a must. I am paying for it and I want to use my devices how I see fit.
If you are concerned about an issue that may arise because you have an unlocked bootloader and root access I always try to look at it from both sides. Why did I unlock the bootloader? Why did I root? Am I able to do what I intended to do or not?
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tanzeel.ahmed1306 said:
I came across this post on GitHub
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2534
I wanted to ask if I should continue using root or just relock my phone ?
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I'm kinda in the same boat. While I don't use GPay that often (and I can currently use it through Magisk), occasionally it would be nice for it to work without issue. However, the main reason I root is so that I can manually edit my HOSTS file to block ads.
Like fast69mopar mentioned, it's an individual preference. What do you gain by unlocking the bootloader and rooting?
In my opinion, the OP7T is a fantastic phone right from the get-go. So was the OP6T. Both phones I used for almost a full week before unlocking and rooting.
Got the OP7T a month ago and was faced with the same decision. All phones since Samsung Galaxy I have rooted.
Decided not to root the OP7T. So far couldn't be happier. Maybe missed it once. Everything working without issue is nice.
As for Ads.
Built in Private DNS in Android 10 with dns.adguard.com works pretty damn good.
I'm rooted, using magisk and edxposed with aosip. Definitely no loss of function comparing to stock. I don't use Google pay, but Samsung pay, bank apps, snapchat, everything works. Currently magisk and edxposed could be hidden without any loss of function when it comes to bank or paying apps. I don't use Google pay but safety net passes just fine with my setup
fast69mopar said:
Unlocking your bootloader and rooting your devices is a choice that you and only you can make. There are always risks when modifying your devices. When you unlock the bootloader on most devices it will void your warranty unless stated otherwise by the manufacturer.
When it comes to root access there is always a chance for things to stop working. That is why it is up to you to do your research and make an informed decision before taking any action.
To some people, including me, an unlockable bootloader and gaining root access over a device is a must. I am paying for it and I want to use my devices how I see fit.
If you are concerned about an issue that may arise because you have an unlocked bootloader and root access I always try to look at it from both sides. Why did I unlock the bootloader? Why did I root? Am I able to do what I intended to do or not?
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Thanks a lot for your response
I actually rooted because I wanted to use substratum themes and enable aux module in gcam. Apart from that no other reason.
So I guess I am not missing out on too much .
I actually unrooted my phone and relocked the bootloader.
But again thanks for the response!
I had unlocked the bootloader and tried a couple of custom ROMs a few months back but decided it isn't worth it because my main hindrance of adblocking is addressed using DNS and any unneeded app can be disabled using adb. On the flip side, I need Widevine L1 for Netflix/Prime and no custom ROM can offer that on the 7T.
Makes more sense to me to stay within the walled garden, especially with the higher risk brought about by rogue Android apps that are now far too prevelent. The mods too are not that much value adding than it was may be when I first started using custom ROMs nearly a decade ago.
Hi I've never wanted to root or custom ROM. I read the instructions and they are pages deep and the issues that come up and are discussed in threads have such confusing back and forth discussions using lingo and abbreviations that make my head spin.
However... Oneplus did their last update on my 5t my fourth oneplus phone... With an already old security update.
Is the only way to not throw away a perfectly working, phone with good Ram and a fairly new battery I paid to have installed just months ago?
If I'm wanting to hold on another year or 2 use the only option custom ROMs that contain security updates?
Is there a way to add security updates without a ROM? Or maybe at least just learn to root and then add just updates or is it only in ROMs?
I could probably happily use my phone as is but worried what effect no security updates really is to my use.
I really tried videos on doing so this myself I'm not comfortable if problems happen. Not very techy.
Any help appreciated
Unfortunately you can no longer get security updates once your device is deemed as old.
Your options will be to get an antivirus app on your phone, install a custom ROM (like LOS or pixel exp), or you can get a new phone.
Since you're new to this stuff I highly recommend you just get a new phone or simply install an antivirus.
Not sure which anti virus is better than which. But I'm confident in Avira, McAfee, and Norton. You may want to purchase their plan though.
Hope I helped.
Thanks alot for the reply. I'll start with an antivirus.
Hello,
I have similar issue, since I would need security patch update to keep running company mails and apps.
I have 2 doubts:
- if I root and install Android 11 custom ROM, security patches will be updated too?
- after this, would I be able to unroot and install company mail apps ( if rooted they will not work) ?
Thanks
Personally I think that your company has put an unfair burden on you to run company mail and apps on your personal phone while expecting you to have an updated phone at the same time. An updated phone should have been "given" to you.
That being said, you can actually flash and run a custom rom without root. Root is optional.
Process is as follows: (you'll need a PC for this)
1. Backup ALL your data
2. Unlock the bootloader
3. Install custom recovery and reboot to recovery
4. Wipe cache & system and format internal memory
5. Copy custom rom & gapps to internal memory
6. Flash custom rom & gapps and reboot system
miloinodense said:
Hello,
I have similar issue, since I would need security patch update to keep running company mails and apps.
I have 2 doubts:
- if I root and install Android 11 custom ROM, security patches will be updated too?
- after this, would I be able to unroot and install company mail apps ( if rooted they will not work) ?
Thanks
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Yes if you install custom ROM you'll have security updates. It doesn't have to be Android 11 and you don't need root to install a custom ROM.
Also make sure to follow a precise guide about it so you don't encounter any issues. Always make a backup even if you're 100% sure you won't need it.
As far as I know mail apps don't check the integrity or do a SafetyNet check, so even if you root or don't it will work fine.
If you mean banking apps then you can install some modules to bypass the check or just completely remove root. Assuming that you rooted the device.
It shows my lack of knowledge never ever did I think you could Flash a ROM without being rooted.
Thanks
I successfully installed custom ROM w/o root.
But regarding company mail apps, I would need to hide bootloader unlocked status.
maybe it's impossible, if someone has a good idea...
miloinodense said:
I successfully installed custom ROM w/o root.
But regarding company mail apps, I would need to hide bootloader unlocked status.
maybe it's impossible, if someone has a good idea...
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My banking apps working fine without root with crdroid 7.3 and flamegapps. Might work for your company mail app too.
Some roms readily hide bootloader status
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
miloinodense said:
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
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Hence that's why the burden should be on the company to provide the "up to date" phone
miloinodense said:
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
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And that's why the burden should be on the company to provide the "up to date" phone
miloinodense said:
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
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I think if you change build.prop to some other phone with recent security patches you can bypass this.
XDHx86 said:
I think if you change build.prop to some other phone with recent security patches you can bypass this.
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Today, I was thinking that this could be good way.
Root, change build.prop, and then unroot.
If you have a link for a good tutorial on change bulid.prop would be nice, thanks.
miloinodense said:
Today, I was thinking that this could be good way.
Root, change build.prop, and then unroot.
If you have a link for a good tutorial on change bulid.prop would be nice, thanks.
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Just for update:
I tried to Root a stock ROM, edit build.prop (security patch date), unroot, and then lock bootloader.
But even if it was a stock ROM, OP5T was not booting.
Booloader was stopping boot since it was detecting a non-stock ROM.
Indeed, I had to unbrick OP5T since I was not possible to unlock bootloader.
So, still not solved
miloinodense said:
Just for update:
I tried to Root a stock ROM, edit build.prop (security patch date), unroot, and then lock bootloader.
But even if it was a stock ROM, OP5T was not booting.
Booloader was stopping boot since it was detecting a non-stock ROM.
Indeed, I had to unbrick OP5T since I was not possible to unlock bootloader.
So, still not solved
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Just edit build.prop and use magisk hide module from magisk manager.
XDHx86 said:
Just edit build.prop and use magisk hide module from magisk manager.
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Edit build.prop w/o root and unlock bootloader is not possible...
Moreover, hiding root will not work with more recent android updates and for sure it will not hide unlock bootloader.
miloinodense said:
Edit build.prop w/o root and unlock bootloader is not possible...
Moreover, hiding root will not work with more recent android updates and for sure it will not hide unlock bootloader.
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Yeah I assumed you would know that you should root first. But seeing you even attempted to lock bootloader after modifying the device, seems I assumed wrong.
Magisk hide is working fine on later android versions like 8+. And for the bootloader it only trips CTS if your bootloader is using hardware backed key - Which is the case with OP5 - as CTS check also has hardware attestation. But it is possible to bypass said check by using SafetyNet Fix module, of course you will also install that from magisk manager.