AOSP vs Stock-Based Firmware - Performance Issues - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

I've flashed Dirty unicorns, Octo-rom as AOSP ROMs as well as Stock-Based PureNexus.
I've found that on either AOSP ROM there is a distinct stutter when scrolling and lag in some games with 2d sprites. I cannot figure out how to get rid of this but was wondering if anyone else experienced it? The lag is slight on websites with text and pictures, and more noticeable in certain games.
It does not happen on stock firmware or PureNexus. And I've replaced kernels and changed settings in them, messed with scrolling cache etc. It appears in the AOSP ROMs. It's the strangest thing.
I have flashed clean each of these firmwares probably 3 times (literally three times each and tested) with the same stutter results on AOSP ones.
I am now on PN as it doesn't lag but prefer the features of DU.
Anyone else notice this?

xocomaox said:
I've flashed Dirty unicorns, Octo-rom as AOSP ROMs as well as Stock-Based PureNexus.
I've found that on either AOSP ROM there is a distinct stutter when scrolling and lag in some games with 2d sprites. I cannot figure out how to get rid of this but was wondering if anyone else experienced it? The lag is slight on websites with text and pictures, and more noticeable in certain games.
It does not happen on stock firmware or PureNexus. And I've replaced kernels and changed settings in them, messed with scrolling cache etc. It appears in the AOSP ROMs. It's the strangest thing.
I have flashed clean each of these firmwares probably 3 times (literally three times each and tested) with the same stutter results on AOSP ones.
I am now on PN as it doesn't lag but prefer the features of DU.
Anyone else notice this?
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Pure nexus is aosp.

toknitup420 said:
Pure nexus is aosp.
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Are you sure? It includes none of the AOSP apps and has Google apps...

xocomaox said:
Are you sure? It includes none of the AOSP apps and has Google apps...
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From the OP for Pure Nexus: "Based on AOSP Android 7.1.1_r13"

cam30era said:
From the OP for Pure Nexus: "Based on AOSP Android 7.1.1_r13"
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Huh, it seems to be the only rom other than stock that doesn't stutter. How is that possible?

xocomaox said:
Huh, it seems to be the only rom other than stock that doesn't stutter. How is that possible?
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I haven't a clue. I'd suggest posting your question on that thread.

xocomaox said:
Huh, it seems to be the only rom other than stock that doesn't stutter. How is that possible?
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It's prolly cuz his kernel and ROM are amazing lol. Pure nexus has always been a more smooth experience compared to other similar AOSP based roms IMO.

toknitup420 said:
It's prolly cuz his kernel and ROM are amazing lol. Pure nexus has always been a more smooth experience compared to other similar AOSP based roms IMO.
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I am not using the kernel that comes with any of these roms, and don't think it is related to it. His rom seems to be the only one that is actually smooth like stock. I haven't tried WETA but since it was based on stock I would imagine it's the same. Interesting that nobody else using DU is complaining about this. The stutter in scrolling is sickening, though.

xocomaox said:
I am not using the kernel that comes with any of these roms, and don't think it is related to it. His rom seems to be the only one that is actually smooth like stock. I haven't tried WETA but since it was based on stock I would imagine it's the same. Interesting that nobody else using DU is complaining about this. The stutter in scrolling is sickening, though.
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Can you do a video of it? I am using DU with EX kernel and it seems smooth to me. I am using that schedtune boost tweak though which might make a difference.
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I love the pure Nexus. I probably will not go back to stock after using this ROM. Have had no problems whatsoever.

mac796 said:
I love the pure Nexus. I probably will not go back to stock after using this ROM. Have had no problems whatsoever.
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You find the smoothness of both PN and stock same? Or you just prefer it because of extra features only?

Reechings said:
Can you do a video of it? I am using DU with EX kernel and it seems smooth to me. I am using that schedtune boost tweak though which might make a difference.
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I can try to get a video of this for you this weekend. OctoROM is releasing a new build, which hopefully will be fixed but you never know. Since I'll be reflashing, I'll test out the latest DU and snag a recording of it if still present.
I am assuming the video will pick this up, because I don't have the option to film it physically, only screen record. :good:

ithehappy said:
You find the smoothness of both PN and stock same? Or you just prefer it because of extra features only?
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The smoothness is identical, to me. Extra features are very much welcomed in PN.

ithehappy said:
You find the smoothness of both PN and stock same? Or you just prefer it because of extra features only?
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Yes I would say it is about the same.. Both very smooth

In my opinion pure is much faster than stock. App opening, change menus faster.
Pure is one of the rare AOSP roms that is optimized. Many rom devs just take pure aosp and just add features.
But I am now on a different rom because this is just optimized to its fullest
But I was and always will be a speed junkie

mikaole said:
In my opinion pure is much faster than stock. App opening, change menus faster.
Pure is one of the rare AOSP roms that is optimized. Many rom devs just take pure aosp and just add features.
But I am now on a different rom because this is just optimized to its fullest
But I was and always will be a speed junkie
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I noticed a big difference from stock to PN Rom. Rom is faster and much smoother.

mikaole said:
In my opinion pure is much faster than stock. App opening, change menus faster.
Pure is one of the rare AOSP roms that is optimized. Many rom devs just take pure aosp and just add features.
But I am now on a different rom because this is just optimized to its fullest
But I was and always will be a speed junkie
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chazall1 said:
I noticed a big difference from stock to PN Rom. Rom is faster and much smoother.
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Are you sure it's not just faster animations?

Yes I am sure because I always run all roms on 0 animation

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Yes I am sure because I always run all roms on 0 animation
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Then I am questioning why your stock firmware runs so slow.

Yep, you are the man
I would never question your opinion
Truth is not every rom and every kernel is good for all.
It's just a subjective opinion.
It totally depends on what apps you have installed and use and how you use your phone.
So different. Same with benchmarks or battery life.

Related

any info on ShadowRom???

i saw it this morning on rom manager but couldnt find any info on it anywere.... sense? vanilla? apps? anyinfo.... screenshots too.... thanx!
Stoney 666 said:
i saw it this morning on rom manager but couldnt find any info on it anywere.... sense? vanilla? apps? anyinfo.... screenshots too.... thanx!
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
fortesquieu said:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
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sounds pretty dope... custome live wallpaper is pretty cool. i just might try it out....
thanx for the quick response...
I'm running it right now. I must say it is very nice...I like
bilbobrian said:
I'm running it right now. I must say it is very nice...I like
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have you tried the custome live wallpaper yet? i cant figure out how to do it.
Seems like a very nice and smooth rom. Launcher pro is supper smooth with the rom. Going to try kings aosp kernel. Stock kernel only allows over clock to 1.15, no 1.13 option, which is not stable for me.
Shadow Rom
2.0.5 Radio
King #1 AOSP
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
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It's apparently based off of CM6's source, then tweaked. I was going to post on here about it earlier today, but didn't have time.
I'm wondering if anyone can drop a compare/contrast of the different AOSP builds available for the DInc now.
I'm guessing here, but Ruby is as stock as you can get (until they change that), CM6 has some tweaks, UD has more tweaks and is built off CM6, and ShadowROM is built off CM6 and has tweaks.
Almost makes me wonder if someone should come along and pull them *all* together into some massive super-AOSP ROM... which from what ShadowROM's description reads, that's what they're trying to do.
I am trying this one right now...and looking that it has koush kernel, I suspect it also has the reboot/shut down issue... I really hope not. Personally, I don't care if they all pull together, or individually...but the reboot/shut down issue has been my biggest culprit on CM...and I depend on my phone. Ruby has been awesome...so if this one doesn't work out, I have something to fall back to.
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I'm guessing here, but Ruby is as stock as you can get (until they change that), CM6 has some tweaks, UD has more tweaks and is built off CM6, and ShadowROM is built off CM6 and has tweaks.
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I haven't tried Ruby yet, but don't forget about Virtuous. It's essentially stock with most bloatware removed.
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Virtuous is sense, not aosp.
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I am trying this one right now...and looking that it has koush kernel, I suspect it also has the reboot/shut down issue... I really hope not. Personally, I don't care if they all pull together, or individually...but the reboot/shut down issue has been my biggest culprit on CM...and I depend on my phone. Ruby has been awesome...so if this one doesn't work out, I have something to fall back to.
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Same here. I have to give up on AOSP roms for a while if I don't want to miss any calls while the phone reboots itself or goes into la la land. At least Redemption is very stable for me and good on the battery.
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
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I've been using it for about a day now and it has been very smooth, today I'm giving it the full test, will report back if something goes awry
Incredible
PonsAsinorem said:
I haven't tried Ruby yet, but don't forget about Virtuous. It's essentially stock with most bloatware removed.
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Grikshanks said:
Virtuous is sense, not aosp.
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TY Grikshanks for saving me on that one. AOSP vs. Sense-based ROMs and related discussion are starting to bug me. Especially when talking about AOSP kernels vs. Sense...
However, now that it's been mentioned, I did forget about IncredibleDoes' AOSP based ROMs. So thus far AOSP ROMs for the DInc are: ID's, CM's, UD/BD's, Ruby, and ShadowROM. I hope I'm not missing anything else... and UD/BD, CM, and Shadow are all based off each other. Ruby and ID are unique. Though I know all the devs talk to each other, I don't know the details on what is mutual or exclusive between them (ie if kernels are interchangeable).
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Same here. I have to give up on AOSP roms for a while if I don't want to miss any calls while the phone reboots itself or goes into la la land. At least Redemption is very stable for me and good on the battery.
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Weird, I've been on 6.0.2, stock kernel with SetCPU settings as:
Screen off = 384/245 interactive priority 90
Temp > 40C = 768/128 conservative priority 85
Charging/full = 998/128 interactive priority 80
Batt < 25% = 691/128 conservative priority 50
And been doing fine throughout the day. No reboots on calls... only thing is that playing Parallel Kingdom sucks battery down pretty fast. Also makes the phone rather warm. But I've been on CM6 pretty much since it came out stable, skipped .01 and went straight to .02. Haven't tried Adrynalyne or KK's kernels yet.
mikeacela said:
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
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From what I can tell looking at source code, it doesn't seem to be forked from anything. I'm guessing they pulled Launcher2 and modified the source as they see fit, so it's roughly based off stock froyo launcher. But I'm still learning how to play with source/github/etc.
I don't *think* any ROMs modify the radio. Are you asking what radio is required to use it? Personally I just use the newest leaked one, haven't had problems yet. And mflops should be similar to CM6's, as they share the stock kernel (and codebase).
Don't really know why people are so obsessive about benchmarks. Give it a try, if you don't like it because it's laggy or whatever, nandroid back. *shrug*
mikeacela said:
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
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I'm running this with King Kernel, it gave me quadrant score of 1397 and 34.485 MFLOPS. All stock.
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TY Grikshanks for saving me on that one. AOSP vs. Sense-based ROMs and related discussion are starting to bug me. Especially when talking about AOSP kernels vs. Sense...
However, now that it's been mentioned, I did forget about IncredibleDoes' AOSP based ROMs. So thus far AOSP ROMs for the DInc are: ID's, CM's, UD/BD's, Ruby, and ShadowROM. I hope I'm not missing anything else... and UD/BD, CM, and Shadow are all based off each other. Ruby and ID are unique. Though I know all the devs talk to each other, I don't know the details on what is mutual or exclusive between them (ie if kernels are interchangeable).
Weird, I've been on 6.0.2, stock kernel with SetCPU settings as:
Screen off = 384/245 interactive priority 90
Temp > 40C = 768/128 conservative priority 85
Charging/full = 998/128 interactive priority 80
Batt < 25% = 691/128 conservative priority 50
And been doing fine throughout the day. No reboots on calls... only thing is that playing Parallel Kingdom sucks battery down pretty fast. Also makes the phone rather warm. But I've been on CM6 pretty much since it came out stable, skipped .01 and went straight to .02. Haven't tried Adrynalyne or KK's kernels yet.
From what I can tell looking at source code, it doesn't seem to be forked from anything. I'm guessing they pulled Launcher2 and modified the source as they see fit, so it's roughly based off stock froyo launcher. But I'm still learning how to play with source/github/etc.
I don't *think* any ROMs modify the radio. Are you asking what radio is required to use it? Personally I just use the newest leaked one, haven't had problems yet. And mflops should be similar to CM6's, as they share the stock kernel (and codebase).
Don't really know why people are so obsessive about benchmarks. Give it a try, if you don't like it because it's laggy or whatever, nandroid back. *shrug*
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UD/CM/Shadowrom arent just "based off each other". Looking outside the scope of the incredible, Cyanogenmod is king of AOSP considering its support of multiple devices. Crystal Clear is starting to make its way out being that the incredible is their second device. most everyone knows the deal with UD, but i dont know a thing about shadowrom. in that respect, pretty much all of these roms are based off of CM, because all of these devs, including BlackDroid, consult with the CM team to create their roms, and some use parts of it. With that in mind, youll see that just about all of these roms use Koush's kernles from CM. Most AOSP built roms for a single device can swap kernels for the most part, since most of them dont really differentiate much in the OS anyways. The only real differences between these roms is mostly the optional built-in customizations they add in settings and the launchers they use out of the box, as well as whatever theme they add in sometimes if any. CM sets a good bar with full status/notification customizing from the settings menu, along with the performance, input, sound, display settings etc. Ruby sort of followed suit but swapped status bar customizing for other miscellaneous tweaks. BD just compiled a crap load of tweaks made by other people and combined them into his rom, yet it still lacks the status bar tweaking. Shadowrom seems to have fully incorporated it along with some of his own additions, but those didnt seem to work on my phone when trying them out. couldnt even see what was in the Misc. settings cus it FC'ed on me.
for the launcher used in shadowrom, yes it is the launcher from the Nexus. it looks like he smoothed it out quite a bit though.
the only roms that will upgrade your radio are those that come leaked from HTC themselves. No rom should "modify" your radio. if anyone has tried so and youre thinking about flashing it, dont.
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in that respect, pretty much all of these roms are based off of CM, because all of these devs, including BlackDroid, consult with the CM team to create their roms, and some use parts of it. With that in mind, youll see that just about all of these roms use Koush's kernles from CM.
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UD: Yes
Shadowrom: Yes
Ruby: No
Cm6 has some stuff in it forked from Ruby. I wouldn't say Cm6 is based off of Ruby because of that. Would you?
Ruby is its own project.
cm did not invent aosp, and have their own source tree.
Ruby does not use that tree.
1st big issue I see - it doesn't scan the built in memory for images or music. Not sure how the "three testers" they were using missed this one.
Been running this for 2 days now. I flashed Kings AOSP kernal over the one that came with this rom. Runs very smooth and stable. Only one small issues... couldnt update to newest version of google street view (newest version of google maps comes installed with this rom), and camcorder does not do 720p. Camera is 8mp though. Great stable rom. Quadrant scored in the 1400 range with no overclocking on king kernal. High 1500 range @ 1.15 ghz.
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For those people having trouble with their 8gb internal memory being recognized, a great music player that someone else on this forum recommended called mortplayer recognizes all of my media that is on my internal memory and plays all my music without a flaw. Mortplayer is works great on ruby, CM6, and shadowrom, those being the only AOSP roms that I've tried so far! Just throwing it out there for anyone with media on the internal memory

Best ROM?

I am having a serious amount of trouble trying to decide what ROMs to flash and which to leave in the dust. I'm also contemplating cyanogenmod, but it's still beta. HELP!
"best" is really subjective. Everyone has their own tastes. I say stick with stock for a while, at least you know you will get the OTA updates. If it meets your needs, great. Read up on the features of each ROM, and see if any of the features are interesting to you, try them out.
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"best" is really subjective. Everyone has their own tastes. I say stick with stock for a while, at least you know you will get the OTA updates. If it meets your needs, great. Read up on the features of each ROM, and see if any of the features are interesting to you, try them out.
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I know it's subjective. I want a general idea of what the best ROM would be all around. I'll wait for cyanogenmod 9... Either way, I'm happy with stock, I see so many ROMs in the development section that I feel confused. And I only wanted a general, basic suggestion. Maybe you (or someone else) could give me at least that?
What do you feel you would gain by going to a custom rom?
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What do you feel you would gain by going to a custom rom?
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Little enhancements for ICS. Speed enhancements. Optimizations. Tweakability. Flashing different kernels for OC and UV support (although I don't fully understand it). insecure boot image. Root (although you don't necessarily need a custom ROM for the latter two)...
Not a big fan of themes.
I guess, I've used cyanogen exclusively on my Nexus One, and my Nexus S. I want to branch out and try other ROMs, but I'm also not a flash head. I'd rather find one good ROM and stick with it (like I'm doing with stock). I've tried MoDaCo's (Paul O'Brien's stuff) and Android Revolution HD, and I feel like they're not too different than stock, so I revert back. What do you use?
Thanks.
Try out the gummi rom. It's based off the 4.0.3 build and basically stock, which IMO is perfect. It has the extended power down menu (reboot/recovery/bootloader), the battery percentage in the battery icon. And the Gapps for it includes Google Wallet which is nice. The kernel it's running can be overclocked and undervolted. All in all its a very nice looking rom and I haven't ran into a problem with it yet.
I prefer Android Open Kang Project by Roman, or Bigxie's AOSP 4.0.3 stock w/optimizations (currently using) with Franco Kernel (nightly 3)
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Try out the gummi rom. It's based off the 4.0.3 build and basically stock, which IMO is perfect. It has the extended power down menu (reboot/recovery/bootloader), the battery percentage in the battery icon. And the Gapps for it includes Google Wallet which is nice. The kernel it's running can be overclocked and undervolted. All in all its a very nice looking rom and I haven't ran into a problem with it yet.
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That sounds really good. I think I might try it out.
RMatt1992 said:
I prefer Android Open Kang Project by Roman, or Bigxie's AOSP 4.0.3 stock w/optimizations (currently using) with Franco Kernel (nightly 3)
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Thanks man, I just feel like I don't want to deal with nightlies. This phone is my daily driver so I want something stable. That's why stock is kicking so much ass right now. But obviously owning a Nexus I feel like I missing out on some really important mods and what not.
I want a ROM that doesn't require a lot of maintenance.
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I would definitely recommend Roman's AOKP. There's nothing unstable about it and it offers more customization than anything else released currently.
i downloaded the gummi one but heard of people having gapps issues so hesitated. currently using ZYGOT3 1.3 as it specified "final" and was posted by Droid Th3ory who made tons of roms for the Thunderbolt & a few Bionic ones. seems stable so far & better then stock.
Anyone feel that 4.0.3 is a bit more laggy in certain areas than 4.0.1 (or 4.0.2)?
I notice right away that the task switcher is a lot quicker (no lag on pushing the button) with 4.0.3 but I noticed everything else a bit more sluggish. Watching the apps flow in when pushing the app drawer button is chunky with 4.0.3 and pulling down the notification bar stutters as well.
This is my experience with AOKP and Bigxie's AOSP which are both 4.0.3 ROMs compared with the stock 4.0.1 ROM that came with the phone.
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I would definitely recommend Roman's AOKP. There's nothing unstable about it and it offers more customization than anything else released currently.
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I'll give that a shot as well. Thank you.
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[Q] Looking for that one ROM for my HTC One X

So I am new to the XDA forum, I am not new to Android. Now however I am in a bit of a spot. Looking for that one ROM which actually works properly without bugs or stability issues. This has proven to be a rather big challenge.
Almost every single ROM I have looked up, either on this forum or other forums, has issues. Most of them are seen as minor, but for my part, the lack of WiFi or USB tethering is not acceptable. Nor are those small bugs which makes apps crash from time to time.
So I am looking for a ROM with offers me the pure Android experience, so no Sense UI, with a few custom tweaks like battery indicator removal and the like. The ROM should be OTA compatible and based on Android 4.2.2.
I have looked all the big ROM's and many of the smaller ones. And like I write earlier, they all seem to have issues that makes renders them a defect product in my eyes. It is my no means easy to create a custom ROM, and all the hard work that developers put in to it, that I will praise :good:
But since I am looking for a complete product that take run my HOX until a new Android phone worth having comes out, stability issues, app craches, sluggishness and so on, are not acceptable.
It is a tall order I realise, but I figures that there is nothing lost by posting this thread. So are there anyone out there who knows an custom ROM?
AOKP and CM both have WiFi tethering and USB tethering working fine. I've been using CM since its alpha days, never had something not working that bothered me (meaning that i don't use MHL or FM radio, both of which don't work iirc. Any AOSP-based rom won't have them working.)
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AOKP and CM both have WiFi tethering and USB tethering working fine. I've been using CM since its alpha days, never had something not working that bothered me (meaning that i don't use MHL or FM radio, both of which don't work iirc. Any AOSP-based rom won't have them working.)
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I have downloaded the CM 10.1 M3 release, thought about installing it, it also comes with OTA updates, for some people at least, by the time the stable release version comes out, it should work for all users.
But I could not find any information regarding the possibilities of tweaking the notification bar. Do you have the option of modifying or removing the battery indicator?
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I have downloaded the CM 10.1 M3 release, thought about installing it, it also comes with OTA updates, for some people at least, by the time the stable release version comes out, it should work for all users.
But I could not find any information regarding the possibilities of tweaking the notification bar. Do you have the option of modifying or removing the battery indicator?
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You can modify it to show icon, icon+percentage, circle and circle+percentage, as well as hidden.
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You can modify it to show icon, icon+percentage, circle and circle+percentage, as well as hidden.
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I have a beautiful battery widget, which looks much much better then any other, still hoping that the developer will add moving it to the right side for root users. So I want the default one hidden. So another question would be, if you hide it, does it leave an empty space, or do the other right-side indicators re-align to fill that empty space, so to avoid blank space?
They fill the blank space.
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They fill the blank space.
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I will try the CM10.1 M3 release. What about bootanimation, is there an inbuilt function for that, and if not, do you know where the bootanimation.zip file is located?
Ohh, and what's the word on Google Apps being installed directly from the Play Store?
TeamVenom look @ my signature this rom rocks advice before you flash any rom just read
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TeamVenom look @ my signature this rom rocks advice before you flash any rom just read
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I have already looked at Team Venom Viper X ROM. But it comes with Sense UI, and I have no use for it, not anymore. Since Android 4.0 and Holo UI, there is no need for a UI overlay, and if one really wants that, there are plenty of Launchers in Play Store.
And there are also issues with WiFi tethering.
shopperen said:
I have already looked at Team Venom Viper X ROM. But it comes with Sense UI, and I have no use for it, not anymore. Since Android 4.0 and Holo UI, there is no need for a UI overlay, and if one really wants that, there are plenty of Launchers in Play Store.
And there are also issues with WiFi tethering.
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No worries i use to use trips rom's i was a flasholic until i flashed TeamVenoms rom and never looked back.
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Interesting, maybe I should do the same. Please tell us what rom you decide to use
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I will try the CM10.1 M3 release. What about bootanimation, is there an inbuilt function for that, and if not, do you know where the bootanimation.zip file is located?
Ohh, and what's the word on Google Apps being installed directly from the Play Store?
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Replace it manually in /system/media/bootanimation.zip. Really, most of these questions can be solved by just flashing CM and finding your way around it
Honestly, you can't go past Slim Bean when it comes to stability and features. It has pretty much as many features as AOKP, but it also has features from CM and some of its own unique features too. If you use Apex launcher with Slim, it's easily one of the fastest and smoothest ROMs around.
I've been using Slim Bean for a week now and i hardly EVER keep a ROM for more than 3 days because i always find small issues. With Slim Bean, performance is great, battery life is phenomenal (i got 60 hours up time with close to 4 hours of screen on time, i can attach screenies if you want), there are no outstanding bugs and it just works like it should.
With CM10.1, i always run into small issues here and there and battery life is not so great. When it comes to Ice Cold Jelly, battery life wasn't so good for me and performance was all over the place and it was rather unstable when i tried it a few versions ago.
So, Slim Bean is the absolute winner for me when it comes to ROMs without Sense. I highly, HIGHLY recommend that you try it out. Krarvind only produces very high quality ROMs.
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magic_android said:
Honestly, you can't go past Slim Bean when it comes to stability and features. It has pretty much as many features as AOKP, but it also has features from CM and some of its own unique features too. If you use Apex launcher with Slim, it's easily one of the fastest and smoothest ROMs around.
I've been using Slim Bean for a week now and i hardly EVER keep a ROM for more than 3 days because i always find small issues. With Slim Bean, performance is great, battery life is phenomenal (i got 60 hours up time with close to 4 hours of screen on time, i can attach screenies if you want), there are no outstanding bugs and it just works like it should.
With CM10.1, i always run into small issues here and there and battery life is not so great. When it comes to Ice Cold Jelly, battery life wasn't so good for me and performance was all over the place and it was rather unstable when i tried it a few versions ago.
So, Slim Bean is the absolute winner for me when it comes to ROMs without Sense. I highly, HIGHLY recommend that you try it out. Krarvind only produces very high quality ROMs.
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From what I can tell, Slim Bean is running some sort of custom launcher, is that correct? Because like I wrote, I have no interest in that nor any other launcher, I just want want the stock Android Holo UI and a few additional features.
Does Slim Bean support OTA?
pandaball said:
Replace it manually in /system/media/bootanimation.zip. Really, most of these questions can be solved by just flashing CM and finding your way around it
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Sounds like CM is the way to go. SlimBean is tempting, but it uses a form of launcher other the stock one, and that holds no interest for me.

NOS or Eclipse GPE rom?

Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
fatmando2 said:
They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
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Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
dva010 said:
Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
fatmando2 said:
I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
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No big deal. I'll give it a look and maybe test it out myself if it's not included. Thanks
dva010 said:
Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
I have tried both, but Eclipse had several issues on my phone. I don't really like the inverted apps, but I didn't mind. The straw that broke the camel's back was when my messaging app just disappeared after a random reboot. I'm on NOS now, with no problems.
I've been using eclipse with xposed and gravity box. I've had no issues and really like it.
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I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
mtva24 said:
I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
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Check his site
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I tried both of them yesterday. With Eclipse and NOS I was getting horrible data connection which seems to be the norm with alot of the Roms so far since it's still fairly early with development for the VZW One. Eclipse had more problems than NOS. It was constantly switching me to WCDMA and even using the LTE Toggle app wasn't correcting the issue. This got annoying quick. Every Rom I've tried so far has been pretty bad with data, except for Andy's BoneStock Rom.
Just gotta be patient though, soon there will be stable versions popping up everywhere.
Gonna stick with Bonestock for now
andybones said:
I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
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My bad Andy. Just must have overlooked it.
BTW keep up the good work with Bonestock. You're the reason I'm done with AOSP on this phone.
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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Trying them both is the only way you're going to find out. Everyone has a different viewpoint.
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Personally I'm loving eclipse. I have had one data issue that just randomly appeared and kept me stuck in roaming, I just re flashed and all has been well since. I flashed a few before I fell in love with eclipse, just my 2 cents.
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
Sonic2756 said:
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
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"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
mrjinglesusa said:
"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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If that ROM didn't have a blue theme I would be using it. Currently on NOS.
Running Santod 4.3 and battery life is ok but I know santod will continue to work on that. After all he took the leaked ics for the bolt and made the battery life a hundred times better.
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mrjinglesusa said:
"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
Sonic2756 said:
Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
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I'll second that. Battery life is not bad at all. But battery life on sense seems to be better. I haven't had any problems with data whatsoever.

AOSP ROMs vs Sense ROMs

I'm currently running the NuSense ROM and loving it. But I'm about to get a tablet and would like everything to look and act similar so I'm thinking about putting an AOSP ROM on my HTC One.
I'd like to know how they stack up against the Sense ROMs in terms of performance, battery life, and camera quality. I assume I'll lose Zoe and the other awesome options such as slow motion. Is there any way to add these camera options back in?
clemson77on said:
I'm currently running the NuSense ROM and loving it. But I'm about to get a tablet and would like everything to look and act similar so I'm thinking about putting an AOSP ROM on my HTC One.
I'd like to know how they stack up against the Sense ROMs in terms of performance, battery life, and camera quality. I assume I'll lose Zoe and the other awesome options such as slow motion. Is there any way to add these camera options back in?
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The HTC Sense camera requires Sense framework so you can't get it or the features on AOSP. Performance, battery life, etc are pretty similar. What you could do is run sense on your phone, whatever comes on your tablet and just run. Nova (or a different launcher) on both. They'll look the same, but you'll keep the Sense features on your phone.
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Thanks for the input. Yeah I'm definitely running Nova. I'd like to make it as similar as possible though but I can't do without the Sense camera options.
clemson77on said:
Thanks for the input. Yeah I'm definitely running Nova. I'd like to make it as similar as possible though but I can't do without the Sense camera options.
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Thats probably your best bet. I love the Sense camera features too. I think the GPE ROMs might have the Sense camera because they still have the framework built in, but I haven't tried any of them. I think I remember scrolling through one and seeing it had the camera, but the gallery wasn't working at that time.
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Speaker phone usually doesn't work on AOSP roms either (excluding Google play edition roms)
azndan2 said:
Speaker phone usually doesn't work on AOSP roms either (excluding Google play edition roms)
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Speakerphone seems to be a hit & miss for some, but I've never had the issue. Before I flash over to AOSP I used all the main function, speakerphone, GPS lock, cameras. I can't say if that's why I haven't had issues with them working or not just something I did.
jerrycycle said:
Speakerphone seems to be a hit & miss for some, but I've never had the issue. Before I flash over to AOSP I used all the main function, speakerphone, GPS lock, cameras. I can't say if that's why I haven't had issues with them working or not just something I did.
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Well, maybe I should have been more specific. The speaker does output sound, but people usually can't hear me when I use the speaker phone (Especially in loud areas)
I ran nusense for about 2 months then switched to vanir aosp. My battery and performance are better and the features are awesome. Only thing I miss is the sense camera and tv app but I used it so rarely it wasn't a big deal
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If you use the camera enough, losing ZOE wouldn't be worth it IMO.

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