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Is there a seperate thread fr the 2 gb variant of zenfone 2

is there going to be a seperate thread fr the 2 gb variant of this device and will the roms that r gonna be made fr 4 gb variant will be ported to 2 gb variant too?

Dont worry. Why do you think they wont make a rom for 2gb version?

GeneralPag said:
Dont worry. Why do you think they wont make a rom for 2gb version?
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dude i just got this device a weak ago and i m in love with it...since i found no seperate section for 2 gb variant and people have been talking about mostly 4 gb version..it made me wonder if development was gonna happen fr this device too..?

They are the same device. We dont need separate thread. It doesnt matter what CPU it has or how much RAM is in it. They are all ZE551ML model.

GeneralPag said:
They are the same device. We dont need separate thread. It doesnt matter what CPU it has or how much RAM is in it. They are all ZE551ML model.
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before buying this i was told by many people and it was written at many forums that only the flagships evices with snapdragon chipset are biggest recipient of all the development, and devs usually dont like compiliing roms on intel based cpu devices.hence zenfone 2 might never recience any cynogen or aosp based roms ..is it ture?...i rooted my previous xperia deivce and installed a couple of roms and kernels so i have a fair idea of how this all works but i m still kinda noob to all this...

Cm12 rom is being build right now and someone is making a kernel. Remeber other phones cant run win7 or 8 so smooth.

GeneralPag said:
Cm12 rom is being build right now and someone is making a kernel. Remeber other phones cant run win7 or 8 so smooth.
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Or at all...

Thanks guys ...its just that last time i had desire x dual sim device and there was no rom fr that..i didnt saw many threads regarding any development in process ft 2 gb variant ..so i was just curious ....

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R u sure that cyanogen rom is in seveloomeny fr 2 gb version too..is there any website i cn confirm from

Bootloader
GeneralPag said:
They are the same device. We dont need separate thread. It doesnt matter what CPU it has or how much RAM is in it. They are all ZE551ML model.
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The ZE551ML has an unlocked bootloader, ours does not. I'm starting to lose hope in this phone.

Which one do you have?

GeneralPag said:
Which one do you have?
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I think he is talking about the 2 gb ram version.m not aware..of bootloader status but its just that most of discussion here is bein done about 4 gb ram version..so i just have feeling that we might not get any rom ported fr 2gb version..i am not a dev myself..so i have a humble request to all devs to port roms made fr 4gb version on 2 gb version as well thank you..the present stock rom has severe memory leak problem..

Well there are 2 versions of 4gb version. 1,8Ghz and 2,3ghz cpu. I dont think there would be such a problem to do a bit of code to make it work on 2gb of ram.

GeneralPag said:
Well there are 2 versions of 4gb version. 1,8Ghz and 2,3ghz cpu. I dont think there would be such a problem to do a bit of code to make it work on 2gb of ram.
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glad that you are thinking positive. hope we 2gb users get the same treatment and support as 4gb users!

Siddk007 said:
glad that you are thinking positive. hope we 2gb users get the same treatment and support as 4gb users!
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As a 2gb ZE551ML owner, I can assure you that we don't have anything to worry about us being supported. Same for the ZE550ML and ZE500CL especially, it may seem all the focus is on the highest spec models but we're all Zenfone 2 owners in the end.
This is how all new non-nexus devices have to start out until we can reach that adequate balance between models. Remember the saying, "Be together, not the same."
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The ZE551ML exists in 3 configuration ...
2gb/1.8GHz
4gb/1.8GHz (mine)
4gb/2.3GHz
which are basically all the same phone! Kernels, ROMS and recoveries run on all the same!
The ZE550ML has also an unlocked bootloader (don't know about 550CL ... why made asus so damn many versions?!? )
And even the 550ML/CL are nearly the same. So nobody has to worry about not getting anything. When the Kernels etc are stable enough, somebody will port them to the other devices.
The people porting CM12.1 to our device are working pretty hard as far as i can tell (multiple commits a day on github).
What i really want to say with this is ... give it some time. The phone is pretty new and we have devs that are working on it :good:

XneofuX said:
The ZE551ML exists in 3 configuration ...
2gb/1.8GHz
4gb/1.8GHz (mine)
4gb/2.3GHz
which are basically all the same phone! Kernels, ROMS and recoveries run on all the same!
The ZE550ML has also an unlocked bootloader (don't know about 550CL ... why made asus so damn many versions?!? )
And even the 550ML/CL are nearly the same. So nobody has to worry about not getting anything. When the Kernels etc are stable enough, somebody will port them to the other devices.
The people porting CM12.1 to our device are working pretty hard as far as i can tell (multiple commits a day on github).
What i really want to say with this is ... give it some time. The phone is pretty new and we have devs that are working on it :good:
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ur reply gave me some hope...when I got this device I was worried that since it uses intel cpu its not gonna have many roms or kernel built fr it...but seeing the devs working so hard and community so active ..its only a matter of time

I am a 2gb base model owner and I can test to receiving all the same updates as the high end model. We are all treated as equals when it comes to updates and updates have been very frequent and this is extremely impressive when compared to the other smart phone manufacturers.
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Anyone has compared this tablet vs the Lenovo S8-50F?

Hi!
A local is selling this tablet for $75 so I was considering it vs my current Lenovo S8-50f if the display is any better because of the option of LTE and extra RAM.
Anyone had a chance to compare them? It is a bit of a drive so I am trying to get some feedback before I check it out.
Thanks

I don't know if this helps or if you already know about this feature of the GSMArena website, but have you checked http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6681&idPhone2=6173?
Keep in mind that the latest official stock ROM for the VK810 runs off of Android 5.0.2 and it's kinda sluggish, and updates to apps via the Play Store take extraordinarily long under Lollipop. I really wish they had at least updated to 5.1.1, which on the Verizon G3 worked noticeably smoother than 5.0.x. So I'd suggest finding out if there's been Android updates for the Lenovo to see if they at least have 5.1.1. Also keep in mind that builds of CyanogenMod 12.1 for the VK810 never got fully reliable for the VK810 in my opinion, and mobile data (and maybe GPS and Bluetooth) didn't work at all, so that's not really an option.
Looks like the Lenovo and the VK810 both have the same RAM and storage. 16 GB of internal storage really sucks IMHO, and I'll never get a tablet with less than 32 GB. I do have a 128 GB MicroSD card in it, at least.
I was running stock but heavily debloated and rooted Lollipop 5.0.2 on my VK810 until recently. I'm rebuilding my flashable debloat zips to take into account the bloat in the last KitKat release as I plan on trying going back to KitKat and will try to stay there. There'll be some things I'll miss about Lollipop but we'll see.
That all said, $75 is a hell of a deal with no contract, but there isn't really any active development for this device, and you already have a working LTE tablet, I wouldn't bother. Sure, another third of an inch larger than on the Lenovo, but that's not much.
Good luck, whatever you decide.

4 GB vs. 3 GB RAM

I'm thinking of buying a Mi Max, and I was wondering, how big is the difference between the models with 3 and 4 GB RAM (in terms of speed, reliability, power consumption etc.)? Meaning, is it worth paying more for the 128GB/4GB model (if you don't really need that much storage space), or should the 64GB/3GB model do just fine (since everything else is, as I understand, the same)?
And how stable is the unofficial CM13 for it? Are there any critical components that are not working at this time?

galadroid said:
I'm thinking of buying a Mi Max, and I was wondering, how big is the difference between the models with 3 and 4 GB RAM (in terms of speed, reliability, power consumption etc.)? Meaning, is it worth paying more for the 128GB/4GB model (if you don't really need that much storage space), or should the 64GB/3GB model do just fine (since everything else is, as I understand, the same)?
And how stable is the unofficial CM13 for it? Are there any critical components that are not working at this time?
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I doubt you can feel any performance difference between any of the Mi Maxes available, only in benchmarks... Go with whatever you feel comfortable.
CM is good enough as a daily driver for many of us here, no major issues and as a matter of fact I run it from day one which was 1 week after phone came out, never ran anything else on it and my job depends on my phone... Never had problems.

nijel8 said:
I doubt you can feel any performance difference between any of the Mi Maxes available, only in benchmarks... Go with whatever you feel comfortable.
CM is good enough as a daily driver for many of us here, no major issues and as a matter of fact I run it from day one which was 1 week after phone came out, never ran anything else on it and my job depends on my phone... Never had problems.
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So you prefer cm to RR?

laolang_cool said:
So you prefer cm to RR?
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CM... RR is a little too much for me. I like it simple and add what I need. Also some xposed modules made for AOSP don't work on it because code is too much altered. Never had xposed module for AOSP not working on CM. CM is the closest you can get to AOSP with enough advanced features and settings.

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CM... RR is a little too much for me. I like it simple and add what I need. Also some xposed modules made for AOSP don't work on it because code is too much altered. Never had xposed module for AOSP not working on CM. CM is the closest you can get to AOSP with enough advanced features and settings.
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Yes, I like AOSP(slim would be better) + gravitybox more. Will you port slim to max please?

How's the connectivity doing on this device running CM? With Redmi Note 3, I've had were seemingly random issues such as only seeing 2G network (and not 3G/LTE), or being unable to connect to home wifi after one week.
Is it similar here?

Did you really want 64/128 gb version? I think, if phone has 32 gb internal storage, you don't need to pay more, because it's better to get MicroSD up to 256 GB (tested). If you want 2 sim cards, there is a mod, you can insert 2 sim's and MicroSD. Bought mine Snap 650 3/32 version from Xiaomi Authorized Store and tested it side by side with friends 4/128 gigs version ("best" version). And... I didn't believed my eyes, there was no difference. Snap 652 is just marketing thing, app/game performance is same as 650. Of course, more ram - more apps launched in the background, but 3 gigs is optimal (for the price). This phone is not "high end", so if price matters, get 3/32, it's the best price/performance version.

Well, yes. Here's how the current total price (including "gifts" and DHL delivery) stands between models:
128 GB - 298 EUR
64 GB - 246 EUR
32 GB - 220 EUR
So there really isn't much to think between 32 and 64.
All in all, before I decide (or change my mind), I'm also waiting for eventual comments regarding connectivity with this device running CM13 (it was bad on Redmi Note 3, and it is a game-killer).

It's your way to decide, which capacity will be enough for your needs. I didn't tested CM13 so much, but connectivities worked as good as with MIUI. Anyway, CM is not stable, you know it.

Like the others have said, from what I've heard there's no real-world difference between the 650/652 chipsets. Also note, there is a 16GB/2GB RAM version available for around £140/€155 shipped, which if you ask me is a ridiculous bargain!

I've noticed that both 32 and 64 GB models are now selling at about 209 EUR (plus delivery costs). LineageOS effect?

On the other hand, if You plan to take a load of photos / videos, or use Your phone as a music player with extra connectivity features, there's nothing wrong with hunting for a nice deal for the 128gb. It really is down to what You plan to use it for - if You're not media hungry it defeats the purpose. I got a nice deal on gearbest on the 128 - look out for flash sales - the amount of storage means I'll probably never need an sd card, but that option is there too should I be proven wrong at some point (I'm loading it up with FLAC music as soon as MIUI is out of the way).

The main difference is the 128gb has more fast internal storage, unlikely an sdcard you get will be as fast as internal.

I have the 2GB model and its fine with lineageOS. Less fine with stock rom, but still OK. 3 or 4 you will not notice the diff in daily use I personally guarantee you.

Me thinks that 3 GB would be enough. Running RR583 (hydrogen), have 1.2 const used, max 2.1 gb. With disabled big cores, the phone lives 4 days per charge.

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Me thinks that 3 GB would be enough. Running RR583 (hydrogen), have 1.2 const used, max 2.1 gb. With disabled big cores, the phone lives 4 days per charge.
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And here I was thinking I should pay extra for the 650 to 652 jump for 2 extra big cores. :laugh:

Should I buy Helium or just go with hydrogen?

I know this topic has been discussed a few times already but i can't find the answers I'm looking for.
I don't know if i should go with the 128gb/4gb ram (helium) version or 32/gb ram (hydrogen) version.
My questions are:
1. Is there such a big difference in performance between the 4gb ram + snapdragon 652 and 3 gb ram + snapdragon 650? (~100$ price difference)
2 .Can you install hydrogen roms on helium? (miui for me doesn't seem very interesting)
The hydrogen community is a lot bigger than the helium one. (Probably because hydrogen has the same specs as the redmi note 3 pro)

timandrei12 said:
I know this topic has been discussed a few times already but i can't find the answers I'm looking for.
I don't know if i should go with the 128gb/4gb ram (helium) version or 32/gb ram (hydrogen) version.
My questions are:
1. Is there such a big difference in performance between the 4gb ram + snapdragon 652 and 3 gb ram + snapdragon 650? (~100$ price difference)
2 .Can you install hydrogen roms on helium? (miui for me doesn't seem very interesting)
The hydrogen community is a lot bigger than the helium one. (Probably because hydrogen has the same specs as the redmi note 3 pro)
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Not really if you ask me. They are negligable if you won't do CPU intensive tasks. 3GB of RAM is sufficient if you ask me.
No, you certainly cannot. There are reports of folks who did this. They ended up with a hardbrick and they had to open the device up physically to flash it. MIUI is okay-ish. I would still prefer stock Android over it though.

1. I haven't used a Helium but I've read that there's no real difference in terms of real-world performance. Obviously there is a spec difference, but like I said I've read that the upgrade is so minor it's not really worth it unless you're dying for that extra internal storage. I've got the 32GB/3GB version with a 200GB Sandisk working just fine. Way more than enough storage for me!
2. I have read that you can flash Hydrogen ROMs on Helium with a few minor changes to the files (there's evidence of this in the official CM 14 thread), but like the previous poster said, I would not recommend this. Personally (and this is just my opinion...) every ROM available seems a little too buggy even for Hydrogen at the moment. The kernel source hasn't been out all that long and the source ROMs haven't had that much time to develop, so if you're looking to flash for a daily driver I'd wait a few weeks/months. (Seriously, just an opinion. I like my ROMs to be bulletproof!)

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Not really if you ask me. They are negligable if you won't do CPU intensive tasks. 3GB of RAM is sufficient if you ask me.
No, you certainly cannot. There are reports of folks who did this. They ended up with a hardbrick and they had to open the device up physically to flash it. MIUI is okay-ish. I would still prefer stock Android over it though.
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I didn't meant to flash firmwares on it. I meant use hydrogen custom roms that you install in recovery.

MikusP said:
1. I haven't used a Helium but I've read that there's no real difference in terms of real-world performance. Obviously there is a spec difference, but like I said I've read that the upgrade is so minor it's not really worth it unless you're dying for that extra internal storage. I've got the 32GB/3GB version with a 200GB Sandisk working just fine. Way more than enough storage for me!
2. I have read that you can flash Hydrogen ROMs on Helium with a few minor changes to the files (there's evidence of this in the official CM 14 thread), but like the previous poster said, I would not recommend this. Personally (and this is just my opinion...) every ROM available seems a little too buggy even for Hydrogen at the moment. The kernel source hasn't been out all that long and the source ROMs haven't had that much time to develop, so if you're looking to flash for a daily driver I'd wait a few weeks/months. (Seriously, just an opinion. I like my ROMs to be bulletproof!)
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Hydrogen already has official cyanogenmod: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hydrogen

timandrei12 said:
Hydrogen already has official cyanogenmod: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hydrogen
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Yeah, I linked to it in my comment. lol.
Although it's Official CM, it's not bug free. Personally I think it's worth waiting a while, but each to their own!

MikusP said:
Yeah, I linked to it in my comment. lol.
Although it's Official CM, it's not bug free. Personally I think it's worth waiting a while, but each to their own!
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Soo... No kernel source for helium means no development, right?

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Soo... No kernel source for helium means no development, right?
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Well, according to a few people in this thread, Hydrogen and Helium share the same Kernel Source. So, I guess the only hold up would be optimisation for the hardware differences. i.e. getting the extra two cores online for the Helium's 652, etc.

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Well, according to a few people in this thread, Hydrogen and Helium share the same Kernel Source. So, I guess the only hold up would be optimisation for the hardware differences. i.e. getting the extra two cores online for the Helium's 652, etc.
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Oh.. So there's not that much of a difference between the 650 and 652.

Get the Helium, it has more internal storage, more cores and when you go to sell it you'll get a little bit more for it.

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Oh.. So there's not that much of a difference between the 650 and 652.
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There definitely isn't a huge difference between them, and it's debatable whether you'll see any real difference in daily use.
As ajsmsg78, you'll be able to resell the handset for a higher price later on, but you'll also be spending more to buy the 652 in the first place.
I already had a 200GB Sandisk that is only a few months old and I'm pretty used to 32GB internal storage. As I don't install many games 32GB is fine for me (I've still got 12GB internal free, and that probably won't change all that much). I use the 200GB for my entire music collection plus all photos and video I shoot.
It really is down to your particular circumstances. If you've got the dough, definitely go for the 652! 128GB internal would be great, especially when combined with a 200GB external!
If you're looking to grab a bargain, you'll be more than happy with the 650.
(When I purchased my handset the 128GB 652 was an extra $90-$100 more, which for me is a pretty big difference!)

Moto G5 (XT1676) in 2020

Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.

crocodilehun said:
Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.
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If you buy an 3GB RAM model, I think you're OK.

crocodilehun said:
Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.
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Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
If you can get your hands on one look at the Moto g7 play on ebay
It's updatable to stock android 10 and probably just as cheap as this device second hand or refurbished

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Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
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If I may ask. Does this bug affect 3rd party cameras?

R1ffR4ff said:
If I may ask. Does this bug affect 3rd party cameras?
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Effects any camera app
May have slight green tint in photos
May only be be able to take a certain amount of photos before phone/app needs restarting
Video recording may not work in some apps or may not save file correctly
QR code scanning may not work correctly
The above list is a rough bug list and may vary on a device by device basis & rom version & apps being used

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Effects any camera app
May have slight green tint in photos
May only be be able to take a certain amount of photos before phone/app needs restarting
Video recording may not work in some apps or may not save file correctly
QR code scanning may not work correctly
The above list is a rough bug list and may vary on a device by device basis & rom version & apps being used
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Thank you for the excellent reply. I'm quite happy at the moment with the Stock Oreo on my G5 which I recently got A-grade refurbished at a decent price as my old Moto G3 is getting a bit tatty. It seems that my old G3 is better supported at the moment as I'm running 3 different Android 10 Custom roms all working good(Floko/crDroid/Havoc).
It's a shame that crDroid seem to only cover the G5 Potter and Sanders
https://crdroid.net/dl.php

TheFixItMan said:
Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
If you can get your hands on one look at the Moto g7 play on ebay
It's updatable to stock android 10 and probably just as cheap as this device second hand or refurbished
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If you buy an 3GB RAM model, I think you're OK.
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Thank you guys. Moto G7 is a bit too large for me as i would like something below 5.5. All the other phones that i've looked at are upgradeable to Oreo or Pie at best. Xcover 4s is upgreadable to Android 10, so i think ill go with that one. And all of the custom roms for other smartphones i've looked at, like LG G3 or G5 seem to have some bugs, or they are not up to date. I don't know is there a point in installing something like LineageOS 14, if that rom is out dated and has security holes in it.

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Thank you guys. Moto G7 is a bit too large for me as i would like something below 5.5. All the other phones that i've looked at are upgradeable to Oreo or Pie at best. Xcover 4s is upgreadable to Android 10, so i think ill go with that one. And all of the custom roms for other smartphones i've looked at, like LG G3 or G5 seem to have some bugs, or they are not up to date. I don't know is there a point in installing something like LineageOS 14, if that rom is out dated and has security holes in it.
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Moto g7 play screen is 5.7 Inch but probably worth the extra screen size compared with other options
LineageOS 14.1 for this device (along with stock rom) is only 32bit so you are limited to only arm-eabi armv7 apps as apposed to later devices which are armv8 and support arm64 (64 bit) out the box

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Moto g7 play screen is 5.7 Inch but probably worth the extra screen size compared with other options
LineageOS 14.1 for this device (along with stock rom) is only 32bit so you are limited to only arm-eabi armv7 apps as apposed to later devices which are armv8 and support arm64 (64 bit) out the box
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I've done some research and G7 for European market does not have removable battery, and there aren't any i can buy locally. I would like to buy locally because the shipping adds to the price. What about LG G5, would you recomend it if i put some stable and official rom on it?
Thanks in advance.

crocodilehun said:
I've done some research and G7 for European market does not have removable battery, and there aren't any i can buy locally. I would like to buy locally because the shipping adds to the price. What about LG G5, would you recomend it if i put some stable and official rom on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Never used it so can't comment - have a read of reviews etc