Should I root? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been a XDA user for several years now and I remember how cowardly I used to tinker with my first Android phone(Galaxy S3 Mini) here in the forums. The thing is now after buying the Nexus 5x I've been pretty happy with the experience it gives out of the box. But as I see inside the forums of this device, I don't feel such a big need to root it. So I thought I would ask you fellow users. Should I root?

We can't answer for your question, it's your own decision, you like everything, don't need to change anything so don't root, you want to play with a phone, modify system files then root.
Do what you think it's equal for your needings
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Domin_PL said:
We can't answer for your question, it's your own decision, you like everything, don't need to change anything so don't root, you want to play with a phone, modify system files then root.
Do what you think it's equal for your needings
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Seems fair enough. I'll give it a go and root sometime next weekend.

I just got this phone a couple of days ago, and I'm also very satisfied with it as it is. I normally root my phones to do some tweaks to prolong the battery and enhance the performance but for now, this phone is rocking it. But I've read some reviews that it slows down after a few months of use. So I'll probably wait it out.

arvinsheet said:
I just got this phone a couple of days ago, and I'm also very satisfied with it as it is. I normally root my phones to do some tweaks to prolong the battery and enhance the performance but for now, this phone is rocking it. But I've read some reviews that it slows down after a few months of use. So I'll probably wait it out.
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Slowing down can be because of user installed apps causing it, too much bloat in the memory or maybe FSTRIM hasn't triggered in the system (triggering it manually through an app requires root). It's been 11 months with this phone and haven't had any slowdown. Same with the other unit I gifted that has 10 months. Those reviews surely are from before the March 2016 update which fixed major slowdowns caused by encryption.

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Slowing down can be because of user installed apps causing it, too much bloat in the memory or maybe FSTRIM hasn't triggered in the system (triggering it manually through an app requires root). It's been 11 months with this phone and haven't had any slowdown. Same with the other unit I gifted that has 10 months. Those reviews surely are from before the March 2016 update which fixed major slowdowns caused by encryption.
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Yep, that's what I'm thinking too. I had an Xperia Z3 for more than 2 years now and it never slowed down. As long as you know how to clear junks and manage the memory, it will stay just as fast.

I used to root other phones, but this one seems to work fine overall as is. I could think of a couple of tweaks I could do with root, but then I don't think it's worth to lose the convenience of monthly OTA updates. Other devices, which barely ever receive OTA updates, I always root.

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Does this phone still lag?

I know it's been some time since the 5X came out and I'm thinking of ordering one. Has Google addressed the lag issues that plagued the phone when it first came out? How would you rate smoothness and performance?
I bought one a few days ago , it doesn't lag at all and in term of performance it's really good! It's fluid.
got mine in early december. stock, rooted, adaway, deactivated transition animations (literally all the changes i made). no lag issues so far, app switching is smooth and launching an app is subjectivly as quick as to be expected. from my experience and what i've read it can easily keep up with the SGS6.
If you're stock, then yes.
If you're modding and have custom kernel, then potentially no.
Lag on 5x? Can't say I experienced that.
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Experience the lag quite often now. Especially if I don't reboot it for an extended period of time. Most aggravated by camera use. If I never use the camera, it takes a significantly longer period of time before it starts to lag. If I'm traveling and using the camera constantly, I need to reboot by end of day to get the phone functional again.
Honestly any bit of "lag" issues you may have heard about is nitpicking...the overall experience is very fluid and fast.
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I've had my device for a couple days and haven't had any lag issues what so ever on completely stock unrooted and have used the device a good bit. It makes me think that whatever was an issue when the phone was first released was a hardware issue that has since been resolved behind closed doors.
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I have two, one is mine and one is my wife's. I bought them both on release and hers has been quite the headache. It's already been replaced once for issues with unreasonable amounts of lag compared to mine. Mine has been mostly fine, with the same pain points like Camera/Chrome as her but not as bad. I'm not quite as demanding of the phone as she is. I recently wiped mine and went to an AOSP rom with the ElementalX kernel and haven't experienced any of the same lag doing the same exact same tasks. I may wipe hers first and try the same set up before exchanging it again. I'm leaning heavily towards Google just did not optimize the stock kernel for the 808 chip at all. I really feel like they booted up the first build and went "OK it works, let's ship it" without doing any real testing and optimizing like other manufacturers seem to have done (LG G4, Moto X Pure, basically any other 808 phone).
My phone has never had lag. Smooth as butter.
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I know it's been some time since the 5X came out and I'm thinking of ordering one. Has Google addressed the lag issues that plagued the phone when it first came out? How would you rate smoothness and performance?
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It's there for some and that's probably not going to change. Here's one popular android blog (Android Central) that recently wrote a "3 months w/ the 5X" article. Multiple editors provided their thoughts.
It is hit or miss for me. This is my first Nexus so I don't notice lag often but it is there even though I am decrypted and running a custom rom/kernel. My experience has been mostly positive, I love using the 5X. If I were coming from a previous Nexus, I probably would notice the difference in performance right away however my last device was a dual core S3.
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If you're stock, then yes.
If you're modding and have custom kernel, then potentially no.
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Nope, stock device here (no root) with zero lag. Snappy performance and the camera is always quick. I only reboot about once per month for the monthly security OTA.
Besides, most CPU governors are tweaked to increase battery life by decreasing clock speeds. Not to increase performance.
miketoasty said:
I've had my device for a couple days and haven't had any lag issues what so ever on completely stock unrooted and have used the device a good bit. It makes me think that whatever was an issue when the phone was first released was a hardware issue that has since been resolved behind closed doors.
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I got mine on release day and my device does not lag. The majority of devices do not we're just 10x more likely to hear from those with issues then those without. There has been no hardware revision or change in the 5x, just software updates.
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It's there for some and that's probably not going to change. Here's one popular android blog (Android Central) that recently wrote a "3 months w/ the 5X" article. Multiple editors provided their thoughts.
It is hit or miss for me. This is my first Nexus so I don't notice lag often but it is there even though I am decrypted and running a custom rom/kernel. My experience has been mostly positive, I love using the 5X. If I were coming from a previous Nexus, I probably would notice the difference in performance right away however my last device was a dual core S3.
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My last device was the Nexus 5. The 5x is just as snappy and the graphics performance is far ahead. My device is stock and not rooted BTW. Based on user experiences I've been reading, those with issues are in the minority and experiencing 3rd party software issues. Many have reported success by doing a factory reset without restoring data from another device.
BTW that article is a joke IMO. The only person who mentions how often their performance issues occur mentioned "about once per week" and the rest don't even say.
Obviously some people are having problems with device performance, but I don't believe it's inherent to the device as most are not experiencing such issues and problems only seem to arise once certain types or amounts of background services are running.
My theory: 2GB of RAM on 64 bit OS fills up quicker than 2gb running 32bit. Users are overloading their RAM with background services (possibly aided by a memory leak ala Android 5). It's no secret that many 3rd party background services have really bad memory management.
Yes lag is there. Fresh reset camera everything runs great. Give it a few days (3-4 for me) and you can stop using your camera. Pictures will take 5 seconds to process. I'm not exaggerating. No software fix in sight, and not a peep from Google about this being an issue or a fix in the works. Feel pretty jipped being a pre-order customer.
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rogerchew said:
Yes lag is there. Fresh reset camera everything runs great. Give it a few days (3-4 for me) and you can stop using your camera. Pictures will take 5 seconds to process. I'm not exaggerating. No software fix in sight, and not a peep from Google about this being an issue or a fix in the works. Feel pretty jipped being a pre-order customer.
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I can second this totally. Pre-ordered the device and seeing lag especially when using the camera...
not really
danv28 said:
I know it's been some time since the 5X came out and I'm thinking of ordering one. Has Google addressed the lag issues that plagued the phone when it first came out? How would you rate smoothness and performance?
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It totally depends on how you use it. Overall it's a nice phone
bblzd said:
Nope, stock device here (no root) with zero lag. Snappy performance and the camera is always quick. I only reboot about once per month for the monthly security OTA.
Besides, most CPU governors are tweaked to increase battery life by decreasing clock speeds. Not to increase performance.
I got mine on release day and my device does not lag. The majority of devices do not we're just 10x more likely to hear from those with issues then those without. There has been no hardware revision or change in the 5x, just software updates.
My last device was the Nexus 5. The 5x is just as snappy and the graphics performance is far ahead. My device is stock and not rooted BTW. Based on user experiences I've been reading, those with issues are in the minority and experiencing 3rd party software issues. Many have reported success by doing a factory reset without restoring data from another device.
BTW that article is a joke IMO. The only person who mentions how often their performance issues occur mentioned "about once per week" and the rest don't even say.
Obviously some people are having problems with device performance, but I don't believe it's inherent to the device as most are not experiencing such issues and problems only seem to arise once certain types or amounts of background services are running.
My theory: 2GB of RAM on 64 bit OS fills up quicker than 2gb running 32bit. Users are overloading their RAM with background services (possibly aided by a memory leak ala Android 5). It's no secret that many 3rd party background services have really bad memory management.
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I run custom everything and I prefer it. OOTB, left some things to be desired even though my overall Nexus experience has been great. I agree, we'll always here complaints over positive experiences.
Your theory on ram makes sense from a general level of understanding. For me, ram management on here is awful. A few apps, Maps for instance, reload all too quickly.
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fosser2 said:
I can second this totally. Pre-ordered the device and seeing lag especially when using the camera...
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I can also second this, I'm looking for custom ROM that will make phone usable again. At this point, I resent returning the N6.
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Short answer, yes it lags and pretty bad. I have to power cycle daily to make it usable. I also thought most reviewers were making unrealistic expectations and we're nitpicking but apparently they weren't
Yes, especially with thermal throttling such as when using navigation, taking videos, or multiple photos in succession.
Mine is horrible. Lag when opening the camera, lag when browsing chrome. My phone is encrypted and I have android wear. Honestly the only thing good about this phone versues my nexus 5 is the fingerprint scanner and the front facing speaker and way better battery life. Other than that I am not liking this phone at all.
I've not been on XDA for quite some time but came on today looming for answers to lag on my 5x.
Totally stock, gets above average use I'd guess, and it starts to lag several times a week.
I I stalled an app called Fast Reboot which seems to help without having to go through the pain of a full power off - but after a couple of weeks that makes little difference now.
Full reboot restores speed, but using the camera a coue of times instantly returns the lag - can take 30 sec+ for camera app to take a photo or close. However the lag starts after a day or two even if I don't use camera at all.
Maybe try a replacement from Google seeing as it seems hit and miss rather than a clear manufacturing/ ROM issue across them all.

H815 - battery life? :D

Hey guys! I wanted to ask you how much SOT can you get on your LG G4 with stock Marshmallow(mine is v20g-EUR-XXX). I'm getting barely 4hrs of SOT, how much are you getting? Plus I've heard we can disable something in service menu(some logging?), does it really improve battery life(especially in standby?) If so please share this method here, I'll be very thankful
PS. My phone is not rooted
This is typical for the g4. I get around 4 and a half, using greenify.
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mine is constantly degrading, first month or so I managed to get 5 to 5.5 hours SOT easily and now I can barely get to 4 hours and its still getting worse.
2 hours on V20a, it's **** >.<
After a bunch of small optimizations, I'm hitting 5+ hours sot. Bet I could hit more if id quit that damned Pokémon.
Unrooted v20f
Anyone else encountering problems with the Google Play Services? They use up to 25% of my battery. I've read several threads about how to reduce this (modifying location settings etc...), but it didn't work out for me yet. I also stepped over the "GServiceFix"-App, which I didn't want to give a try because several users reported, that the app bricked their device.
How did you set up your G4 to reach ~4,5hrs of SOT?
*edit* I'm on V20g-EUR-XX (H815)
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Anyone else encountering problems with the Google Play Services? They use up to 25% of my battery. I've read several threads about how to reduce this (modifying location settings etc...), but it didn't work out for me yet. I also stepped over the "GServiceFix"-App, which I didn't want to give a try because several users reported, that the app bricked their device.
How did you set up your G4 to reach ~4,5hrs of SOT?
*edit* I'm on V20g-EUR-XX (H815)
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Theres no way i think unless you root..and disable some services...
i can get like 4-5 hours i think uisng 4G and facebook app... rooted and custom kernel.. and alot of services disabled..
My battery is either calibrating or so and now I'm getting up to 6.5h SOT and I'm really happy about that, plus Doze seems to be working better and better
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Minto107 said:
My battery is either calibrating or so and now I'm getting up to 6.5h SOT and I'm really happy about that, plus Doze seems to be working better and better
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Have you tried force doze... i have sometimes it works sometimes i feel it makes it worst unless theres a setting i need to edit..
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Have you tried force doze... i have sometimes it works sometimes i feel it makes it worst unless theres a setting i need to edit..
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Nope I wanted to give it a try but it says that it needs root or activating service via ADB so I gave up as I didn't have a time for this
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3 and a half, used to get 5, I hate this phone
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I get around 3.5-4 hours screen on time on my brand new h812, my 2 year old moto x xt1095 gets 6-7 hours on its original 2300mah battery. It's on cm13 but it was not much worse on stock.
The g4 I don't want to root and risk my warranty since it is an lg phone. I've had a nexus 4, nexus 5 and g2 in the past and I have had worse luck with lg than HTC or Motorola.
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Theres no way i think unless you root..and disable some services...
i can get like 4-5 hours i think uisng 4G and facebook app... rooted and custom kernel.. and alot of services disabled..
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There really is no other way? I did not want to root until this day, cuz i didnt want to void my warranty. If I really have to root...is there still no way to root without unlocking the bootloader and flash twrp?
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There really is no other way? I did not want to root until this day, cuz i didnt want to void my warranty. If I really have to root...is there still no way to root without unlocking the bootloader and flash twrp?
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yes with locked bootloader you can have root and install xposed. only in lollipop. if you are on marhs mallow you cant. you also need to know your antiroll back before you downgrade in case you are on marshmallow.. nothing a KDZ using LGUP refurbished can fix if you need warranty just flash KDZ and itll remove root.. in case of bootloop just use freezer method ..
no twrp, you need unlock bootloader for that.. i used flashfire.
The only thing you can do to improve battery life is(so far, as I've found) disable logd, use greenify(w/o root works fine), disable sync/localization
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Overall speed

Would you say that the Sony Xperia XZ is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Sony Xperia XZ exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
it is laggy... do not recommend
It's still as fast as on day 1 after 5 months for me. 10/10 IGN
It has been more than 4 months, it's still as fast as the first day. Never had even a lag since then
For a so called 2016 Flagship this phone is a major disappointment for me.
I've had two HTCs prior to this (The M8 and original One) and from a day to day usability perspective the Sony is simply not as good as my 3 Year old M8 despite being more recent technology.
- The audio quality is very poor with headphones (and without)
- For whatever reason it lags for no obvious reason - scrolling contacts, using Mail, anything.... it's just random
- The camera is surprisingly poor
- The Phone and Message apps crash more frequently than they should
- The only advantage this device has over my previous phone is the addition of a fingerprint sensor.
I have not loaded the device with useless Apps and I have disabled whatever junk ware I can which Sony provide.
The only reason I went for the Sony is that my carrier did not offer the HTC 10 so I decided to try "something different".
A lesson learned I'm afraid and I should have switched Network provider to get a phone that I would be happy with for 2 Years.
Perhaps I should install a custom ROM to gain a performance boost as I used to do with phones prior to the M8. Quite honestly I thought I was over all that and should not have to these days given the hardware specs of the device.
In Summary, a woefully poor implementation from Sony and they will not be getting my business, with respect to phones anyway, anytime in the near future.
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Very poor for a 2016 Flagship- laggy
I have the phone since October 2016 and its nothing but great - speed-wise, it still feels like a new phone, however, I am experiencing problems with the battery now, overnight the battery discharges to 20% in the morning - I have tried re-flashing the phone but that didnt help. The phone began to bend a little as well (oops).
Other than that - performance wise its still awesome, I totally recommend it - but I would step it up and go for the XZ Premium.
This phone becomes a beast only once rooted.
I can concur from my own experience - since release been using it unrooted and the phone was unspectacular. However that experience changed once rooted. It took me a few weeks to get it right but that was mainly down to the temperamental status of magisk (no more the case since v13.2.)
Use the right rom and if you know what your doing under the hood then you'll gain ~10hours sot with a blazing fast phone like mine.
Which deep sleeps like a champion.
Performance with LLJY EAS scheduler implementation takes the phone to new heights (once he actually resolves some small issues with the scheduler we can expect further performance enhancement.)
Its been doing good .. had some hiccups due bad updates
With the Aug security patch .. its back to buttery smooth experience
The question I like to ask why isnt non rooted deep sleeping properly, this phone idle still eating battery non stop.. in this regard the Z5 family with the SD 810 done better, the phone idle in the XZ is shocking..
Overall it's fast but starting camera takes to long. Sometimes 3-4 sec. Since two days back the standard sms-app crashes 19 times out of 20. I've changed it to Textra instead.
Scrolling webpages with a lot of pictures(ex. newspapers) is kind of laggy. Probably because of slow loadingtimes due to 2.4 GHz Wifi.
Mine is disappointingly slow, I've owned for at least 6 months Z3,Z3c, Z2, Z1, Z1c, which was a beast, tried the z5 premium and never noticed any lag, all of them simply were beasts,
With the XZ the phone seems to be SLOW, lags at random, and RAM is at 70 usage 24/7 even with clean stock rom.
I hope this gets fixed with oreo, I used a Honor 8 and LG G5 respectively and they were faster in UI day to day usage, the only reason I moved from the Honor 8 to a LG G5 was the SD 820, and from the LG G5 to the XZ was that I am a fan of sony phones, IPXX and design.
Sadly, I am not satisfied with the speed of my phone, Ive had it for 1 week.
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Sadly, I am not satisfied with the speed of my phone, Ive had it for 1 week.
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That's odd. Has it been dropped at all?
I have several of the USA and Japan models and they are all blazing fast.
Do you think there may be a 3rd party issue!
These "reviews" should be reset since most of them sound like bots and the latest Oreo updated changed everything, this is by far the best 16/17 device and I automatically assume that any nonsense bad complaint comes from people who can't use phones or have fakes from China.
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For a so called 2016 Flagship this phone is a major disappointment for me.
I've had two HTCs prior to this (The M8 and original One) and from a day to day usability perspective the Sony is simply not as good as my 3 Year old M8 despite being more recent technology.
- The audio quality is very poor with headphones (and without)
- For whatever reason it lags for no obvious reason - scrolling contacts, using Mail, anything.... it's just random
- The camera is surprisingly poor
- The Phone and Message apps crash more frequently than they should
- The only advantage this device has over my previous phone is the addition of a fingerprint sensor.
I have not loaded the device with useless Apps and I have disabled whatever junk ware I can which Sony provide.
The only reason I went for the Sony is that my carrier did not offer the HTC 10 so I decided to try "something different".
A lesson learned I'm afraid and I should have switched Network provider to get a phone that I would be happy with for 2 Years.
Perhaps I should install a custom ROM to gain a performance boost as I used to do with phones prior to the M8. Quite honestly I thought I was over all that and should not have to these days given the hardware specs of the device.
In Summary, a woefully poor implementation from Sony and they will not be getting my business, with respect to phones anyway, anytime in the near future.
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Very poor for a 2016 Flagship- laggy
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I can second this statement, I even prefer my Z5 Compact over this - even an iPhone 5 is faster than the XZ (sad but true)
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I can second this statement, I even prefer my Z5 Compact over this - even an iPhone 5 is faster than the XZ (sad but true)
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I own all the phones you mentioned and I can say that's not true, at least in Europe.
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I own all the phones you mentioned and I can say that's not true, at least in Europe.
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Suppose it depends how you use it
For example, on Oreo, i can't use facebook and facebook messenger before the phone becomes too slow (Even in safe mode)
Snapchat kills the phone, bluetooth kills it, location services kills it - if you use the XZ as a basic phone, to take photos and videos, occasional facebook then it will work fine for an added few minutes
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Suppose it depends how you use it
For example, on Oreo, i can't use facebook and facebook messenger before the phone becomes too slow (Even in safe mode)
Snapchat kills the phone, bluetooth kills it, location services kills it - if you use the XZ as a basic phone, to take photos and videos, occasional facebook then it will work fine for an added few minutes
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I can do that all day every day and still go sleep with 40% battery left, no lag and perfect battery after one year, z5c and iphone 5 start to burn during boot, but I guess it's just me being lucky or knowing how to keep a phone healthy.
Yesterday I dit a clean install of Oreo & Root & TWRP (I had unlocked bootloader obviously), same apps from Nougat, same everything, phone seems laggy. At least slower than Nougat. I can't understand why... I will try deodexing now, although I don't have high expectations for this.
PS I'm not a bot, I'm a sick Sony fanboy, not changing this device for anything, other than a XZ Premium once it gets a little cheaper.
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Yesterday I dit a clean install of Oreo & Root & TWRP (I had unlocked bootloader obviously), same apps from Nougat, same everything, phone seems laggy. At least slower than Nougat. I can't understand why... I will try deodexing now, although I don't have high expectations for this.
PS I'm not a bot, I'm a sick Sony fanboy, not changing this device for anything, other than a XZ Premium once it gets a little cheaper.
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Deodexing will only make it MUCH slower, I suggest you to get flashtool and flash a more generic FW like CE1, also keep in mind than most apps on the play store are not even optimized for Oreo (only 0.3% of devices are on the latest android) and they can slow your phone or even cause crashes just by staying in the background, search for Brevent on the Play store and choose to restrict any app which you won't need to have in the background.
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Deodexing will only make it MUCH slower, I suggest you to get flashtool and flash a more generic FW like CE1, also keep in mind than most apps on the play store are not even optimized for Oreo (only 0.3% of devices are on the latest android) and they can slow your phone or even cause crashes just by staying in the background, search for Brevent on the Play store and choose to restrict any app which you won't need to have in the background.
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Thanks dude, I thought about it as well, and yes I will stay with odex ROM, and yes, probably the CE1.

Is March Update out ?

Updates usually come on 5th of each month(-ish),
We currently need an update urgently;
focus in camera, battery life , call quality, dt2w, and several other known bugs need to be fixed, I really hope there's a March update that's released this week. If it exists and is out in your region, which country are you in? and do you notice anything different about the system?
PS: Devs pls enable Camera 2 API, thank u.
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Updates usually come on 5th of each month(-ish)
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Pixels usually get em on the 5th each month, Android One devices get them some days later, usually around the 14th or even at the end of month.
Camera 2 API probably will never be enabled by Xiaomi, they want to sell their higher priced models which have enabled it by default. And it's
a matter of seconds to enable it by yourself with root/temporary root.
btw: Battery life is excellent on my side, same like with Oreo. 3-4 days per charge with around 8-9h SOT.
Mid-March as usually like in Feb Patch.
Update is out ,I haven't received it yet, let's hope it fix some issues, mostly the battery drain, 9 hours with oteo and 5 with pie for me...
Due to the low cost of this phone, I have absolutely no expectations that:
1. Updates will arrive on time, even though it's an Android One phone.
2. Bugs that aren't critical to its daily usage will get fixed, even small annoyances.
3. Any non-critical visual fixes will be done.
4. Anything beneficial from 8.1 will come back.
I'm not mad either, this has been a great phone, especially for $159. It punches way above its price point. Now with my Sony a6500 I can just connect to its hotspot anywhere and download RAW images that blow the Pixel 3 out of the water.
Anyway, no update on west coast USA as of 07:44AM.
hey buddies, is it normal that in my a 2 lite after 5 months battery life after 4 hours SoT he has capacity 38% ? i'm bit worried that's why i'm asking
It's fault of Android Pie, if you rollback to Oreo you will have 9 hours SoT again, but for me some Bluetooth devices are not working properly..
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It's fault of Android Pie, if you rollback to Oreo you will have 9 hours SoT again, but for me some Bluetooth devices are not working properly..
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I get 10-11hr SOT with the latest Pie update. It's not the fault of Pie.
I am convinced that there are various hardware revisions of this phone, in this sub forum there are hundreds of different experiences about practically every aspect.
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I wonder if it's people who have modified their phones in a root/bootloader at all? Mine is 100% stock, haven't tried anything regarding rooting, bootloaders, nothing at all.
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I wonder if it's people who have modified their phones in a root/bootloader at all? Mine is 100% stock, haven't tried anything regarding rooting, bootloaders, nothing at all.
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i used to root/ unlock / modify every phone i had since 2008, with this one i leaved everything to stock to avoid problems, and i'm having a user experience totally different from yours, and i'm not the only one! you are a lucky guy, i've nothing else to say.
If this update isn't gonna fix the problems i've encountered i'm gonna sell it, even underpriced.
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i used to root/ unlock / modify every phone i had since 2008, with this one i leaved everything to stock to avoid problems, and i'm having a user experience totally different from yours, and i'm not the only one! you are a lucky guy, i've nothing else to say.
If this update isn't gonna fix the problems i've encountered i'm gonna sell it, even underpriced.
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Do you play games on your phone throughout the day? Are you using heavy animations with a launcher? Do you use social media apps on your phone?
I watch YouTube, use Signal, Slack, Firefox for Reddit & Twitter and average 10-11hr SOT. No social media apps otherwise. Not a gamer really and nothing I do takes major resources. Pokemon Go is the most resource heavy thing I do and if I keep that on I can go 5-6 hours SOT, though I don't play often especially during colder seasons in the northern hemisphere.
I really wish VoLTE & WiFi calling worked, otherwise this phone has taken over my Pixel without any real downsides except USB-C and Band 12. Camera is beyond acceptable for $179, though now I personally just carry around my Sony A6500 and link it in seconds to transfer way higher quality pictures between. I know that's not possible for a lot of people, but the stock camera is very acceptable.
I have another one sitting in my desk brand new I might turn into a development phone.
Let me know if you sell it, I might be interested.
Still no March update in USA.
I play Candy crush maybe 30 minutes a day, and I don't have social apps installed. I'm embittered because I'm using the phone the same way I did since I bought it, after the pie update my SoT was reduced by 30%, and I can confirm it because I tried a rollback to Oreo that solved this issue (and the one with some aes protected wifi), but I had problems with Bluetooth.

Phone seems generally smoother after October Security Update to me

So after nearly giving up in this phone after it being almost unusable between March -August ish... I found that the September update made it pretty good again...
And have had the October Security Update (and bug fixes it says) for a few days now, and I feel like this phone is back to how good it was when I first got it smoothness wise.
Liking it again, came so close to buying a pixel, but will save myself a few hundred quid and stay with this. I was also looking at putting on the Pixel Experience ROM, and may still do in the future, but the way the phone is now it feels fine as it is.
Anybody else think it has improved a lot the last 2 updates ?
I think it comes and goes. The other day I had a game stay in memory for over 4 hours despite using other apps, including a browser.
But the phone had only been running for a day at that point. It's generally closer to a week of uptime before things get really bad for me, but sometimes as short as 2 days.
If I reboot in the morning it's fine all day. I've been doing that a bit lately as a bit of pre-emptive maintenance...
These security updates will surely stop soon and then I'll jump onto a custom ROM. Or maybe get a Pixel 4a. But this phone is still fine when it's not killing apps randomly
Is it still running smooth at this time? Without restarting it?
I strongly disagree. My device still begs me to restart it after more than 24h of use.
No, laggy after about 10 hours of uptime.
I'm selling mine today. Shame about this, it was perfect phone for price. I will use Redmi S2 for now and buy Pixel 4a when prices drop.

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