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This is my first contribution here. Hope someone find it useful.
WHAT IS IT
It's a 18 buttons action screen for the Touch HD, in the following of some 12 buttons versions already available, but with some twists.
HOW DOES IT LOOK LIKE
See the attached screenshot.
HOW TO INSTALL
You'll need to have MortScript installed, you can get it here. Tests were made with version 4.2.
You may need .NET Compact Framework 3.5, but I'm not sure. Anyway installing it is a good idea, you can get it here.
After that, just download and install the attached CAB.
The installation follow the rules and everything should be installed properly independent of you ROM language.
All the files will go into their own folder: \Windows\ActionScreen.
HOW TO USE
You can just press the right selection key. There will be also a configuration icon in Programs.
As for what each icon does, I'll let it up to you to figure that out!
HOW TO CUSTOMIZE
To change the images you need to replace the installed .brn files. Search these forums for details.
To change the links (say you want to use iGO instead of Google Maps, for example) you'll need to edit the registry.
Open HKLM\Software\HTC\Biotouch\ActionScreen\APP_0-17. Each number corresponds to a button.
Change Path to point to your desired application.
If needed change Param to pass parameters to the application.
To translate you'll need to edit a registry key and a file.
To translate the right selection key text, open HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila and change the text in HomeRSKText to anything you like.
To translate the confirmation message before a restart, open the Restart.mscr file and change the text in the first two lines.
VERSION HISTORY
1.00 (20090228) - Initial release.
1.01 (20090302) - Doesn't stay in memory saving 92kb!
1.02 (20090306) - Better management of memory unload.
Added configuration tool to choose if you prefer to keep it in memory (faster loading time) or unload it (saves 92kb).
Added another possible state for WiFi off.
Have fun!
Wow! Thanks for sharing this wonderful app.
thanks
thanks for this one man i did not try till now and i will test it
Great post with a very good looking and practical action screen. Thanks man
get this error
Dutty1.9 Rom @ TouchHD Blackstone
pauernet said:
get this error
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Do you have MortScript installed?
read, post, think.. i am sorry. works perfectly. looks awesome.
thanks a lot
Looks great, thanks! Trying it now...
Good Job wedge666!
That's amazing!
only a thing... the button 16 and 15 (in registry)
do the same thing, turn off the monitor
the 17 do a softreset
How can i change the button 16 for Turn off the device?
thankyou!
BadCluster said:
Good Job wedge666!
That's amazing!
only a thing... the button 16 and 15 (in registry)
do the same thing, turn off the monitor
the 17 do a softreset
How can i change the button 16 for Turn off the device?
thankyou!
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Not exactly the same thing. Button 15, will turn off the screen but 16 will put the HD in sleep mode.
I really don't know how to do a real shutdown (like a long press on the power button) but I'm open to sugestions...
Can this app be started with multiple configurations?
E.g. different hotkeys start different button menus?
How to configure that?
Or A button opens a sub menu by starting the app with another config?
Is there an editor for the button mapping?
Regards,
Yerry
Hello! I do not see how reaching the parameters? Solutions? how to prolong the exposure time of the program!
Sorry for my bad english
Yerry said:
Can this app be started with multiple configurations?
E.g. different hotkeys start different button menus?
How to configure that?
Or A button opens a sub menu by starting the app with another config?
Is there an editor for the button mapping?
Regards,
Yerry
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neosf said:
Hello! I do not see how reaching the parameters? Solutions? how to prolong the exposure time of the program!
Sorry for my bad english
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I just changed some of the original behaviour, graphics and number of buttons of the HTC Action Screen.
Some things like sub menus or the time it takes to close can't be changed.
OK!
THX for this very good application.
Nice application, well done.
Question: how best to stop it running so I can update the .brn file(s) ?
farqui said:
Nice application, well done.
Question: how best to stop it running so I can update the .brn file(s) ?
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You can kill it with a task manager, but I was able to replace the files with Resco Explorer even with it in memory. You can also soft boot and replace the images before the first run.
Or, even better, add the following lines to the end of LaunchAction.mscr:
Code:
Sleep(10000)
Kill("HTCActionScreen.exe")
EDIT: This is in fact such a good idea that I've uploaded a new CAB with this change, see first post.
Thanks for helping me out so promptly, cheers. If you're unloading the app from memory does that mean a slight delay on each start-up ?
Would it be possible to revamp the background.brn and BG*.brn files so it's easier to adjust the icon order ? At the moment it's quite fiddly, with basic pic editing tools.
farqui said:
Thanks for helping me out so promptly, cheers. If you're unloading the app from memory does that mean a slight delay on each start-up ?
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Slightly, yes.
farqui said:
Would it be possible to revamp the background.brn and BG*.brn files so it's easier to adjust the icon order ? At the moment it's quite fiddly, with basic pic editing tools.
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Sorry, but we're working with the limitations of the original HTC Action Screen application.
So useful!!! Thanks a lot for this nice app!
Do i need to uninstall the old version before installing the new version or i can just "upgrade" it?
One bug i found is that my wifi icon remain lighted up even after i click on it to turn it off.
Click wifi icon (become lighted up) -> Turning wifi on.
Click wifi icon (icon remain lighted up) -> turning wifi Off.
Please list all LG Incite Registry Edits, and any tips or tricks.
Thanks.
Screen sensitivity
Check out this post to adjust screen sensitivity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3725352&postcount=402
AFTER YOU DO THIS RESET YOUR "GESTURE AGENT" SENSITIVITY TO THE SECOND TO LOWEST POSITION.
Sim contacts.
Anyone that wants to have the contacts on both the phone and the sim but hide the contacts stored on the sim can use this; HKEY_CURRENT_USER>ControlPanel>Phone Click on phone, then add DWORD value Value name:ShowSim Value Data:0
Thanks to 94b20gsr on the ATT LG forum.
Change scroll bar size.
HKLM\SYSTEM\GWE\
Horizontal scrollbar
cyHScr = 20
Vertical scrollbar
cxVScr = 20
Thanks to faithalone on the ATT LG forum.
Screen orientation speed.
hkey_current_user>controlpanel>accelsensor and change the adjust delay to 0 and also the mode change delay to 0
This will increase the speed at which the screen changes from portrait to landscape.
Thanks to 94b20gsr on the ATT LG forum
Increase Ringtone filesize limit
Browse to HKEY_Current_User / ControlPanel / Sounds
Under the Sounds key, you should see a value by the name of FileSizeLimit
Highlight the FileSizeLimit value and edit it
The default Value Data for this value is 307200.
Change this to a value that better suits your needs. I would recommend a reasonable amount as you don’t want to use all system resources to load up your ringtone. I would think that 807200 would be a reasonable size for most people.
Save your changes and you should now be able to select those larger files as your ringtones
Thanks to cru64 on the ATT LG forum
Gesture agent tip
The sensivity setting is backward. Set it to the second to LOWEST setting for the best results.
Install THIS
Check this out.
http://www.lg-incite.com/third-party-lg-incite-software/ct810-tweak-version-1-0/
Upgrade to .net 3.5
Go to the MS website and upgrade to the .net 3.5 framework.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...2F-5D1A-413D-8319-81DA479AB0D7&displaylang=en
wow.. fail with like the 50 billion separate posts... you should just put it all in one
LOL
Sorry i thought this was MY thread. But i do see your point, but then again it'll still look like this as more people add other edits or tips. I was having to go back and forth between several webpages and it was just easier to add post as i got my crap together.
FOR POST #12:Don't see what the difference is how many post i put, the idea is to get the information out there in an easy to get at format. What i don't understand is why you want to beat down my post instead of contribute to it. I've seen you post in regards to the Incite, you have a vested intrest in the information i posted.
technically, its everyones thread.. but i do see youre point.. somewhat . it just looks like you want your post count jacked up if you ask me though
oh boy, give us a break .... who cares about post count ... default, thanks for this, next time i will only come here and find everything together.
Your welcome
That was my intent in the first place to COMPILE tweaks, tips, and tricks in one place. Hopefully people will submit some more tips.
As i posted on the LG Incite forum the best way to get a more sensitive screen and for you to better understand the "GestureAgent's" settings read this quote from this post
http://www.lg-incite.com/lg-viewty-tips-and-tricks/gestures-touch-sensitivity-and-the-lg-incite/
"We will get started by going to Start>Settings>Gestures.From there you will have the ability to make the device more finger friendly in 2 areas.
1)Flick scrolling in windows default menus(any menu with scroll bars).Instead of trying to jam you're finger you will be able to "flick" you're finger over the screen to scroll through things.
2)better sensitivity in gesture enabled apps(ones with more things off of the screen without scroll bars such as TF3D and POINTUI).
The best settings i have found in the "Gestures" settings menu is the click sensitivity set one spot below half way.Also don't forget to check all gesture enabled apps in the "exclusive" tab.
The third and probably the most important(depending on preference)is touch sensitivity.The screen will be most sensitive after you turn off vibration feedback in Start>settings>sounds and notifications>vibrations tab.Uncheck screen taps.Then go to start>settings>system tab>screen and recalibrate the screen with VERY light screen taps.The screen will be much more sensitive with the vibration feedback turned off.
Also with this setting,from the home screen you will be able to swipe you're finger from the very bottom of the screen to the top of the screen to bring up the "LG Touch Menu".You will also be able to swipe in this application to move to the different tabs.
Hope this helps with any questions you may have about gestures and how to make the screen more sensitive."
good job man! my incite is like 20billlion times faster.
thanks for all the tips!
one request: does anyone know how to increase the size of the "ok" X button on the top right? my thumb is big =)
HTC Home 6 Tab plug-in
You can edit the Launcher in the registry to launch any program that doesn't show up in the options menu at.
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCHome\Launcher
0 thru 9 represent the buttons.
More LG Incite Registry Tweaks
Some tweaks here help speed up your incite and free ram without the need of 3rd party apps.
Delete Keys to disable LG Camera
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\LGE\Apps\InitApp\Launch : Delay00
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\LGE\Apps\InitApp\Launch : Launch00
Delete Keys to disable GestureAgent
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\LGE\Apps\InitApp\Launch : Delay01
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\LGE\Apps\InitApp\Launch : Launch01
Remove AT&T startup screen animation
Delete keys: (you will need CeRedEditor or something to unlock the key first)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Startup\ 1 - keydata StartUpAni.dll
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init:Launch49 REG_SZ StartUpAni_Delay.exe
Now you can customize Windows/StartUpImg_DMDO_000.bmp as your startup splash screen. The initial green Windows screen will still be there.
This is the only key that is active :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Splash Screen : MSBitmap
Not sure what AT&T disable using softwaredisable.dll, but I don't miss it:
Change default to 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\SoftwareDisable:IsEnabled 0 (Default 1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\SoftwareDisable:Keep 0 (Default 1)
or simply delete the whole
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\SoftwareDisable
Change system font: Only affect a few dialog and display screens.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\SYSFNT:Ht (Height)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\SYSFNT:Nm (Font type)
Change short cut icon on your LG's Favorites Menu like that soft reset you always wanted
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LGE\Favorites\IconList
see http://www.lg-incite.com/third-party-lg-incite-software/1-touch-soft-reset-for-you-guys/
Change the 2 soft keys on the Today Screen
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys
default_user8, Why hasn't anyone update this list? Have you ask the one who created the new ROM?
Updated list
The cooks do know about this post, and are incorporating the tweaks into the cooked ROM. As for adding more tweaks to the list. I'm sure the focus right now is on developing a clean ROM and kitchen. Once that process has been completed i'll bet you see some more tweaks being posted here, since people will have more time to develop them. Thanks for the post btw I'll bet the LG Icon list get used alot.
I've noticed on some phones such as Samsung Omnia 7, the option to set screen timeout to never had been removed. It is available on other phones such as HTC HD7. Does anyone know of a way to enable the option on phones where it's missing?
i just searched for it and found it
here you go
HKey_Local_Machine --> Control Panel --> Lock --> DisableNever key is set to dword:1 set this to dword:0
this will add the never option to your list of options
Thanks Marvin_S
Why do companies like Samsung just remove this option?
Because it can cause damage to the screens if left on all the time. Remember the two Samsung WP7 phones have SAMOLED screens - all others have LCD of some sort.
CreepinJesus said:
Because it can cause damage to the screens if left on all the time. Remember the two Samsung WP7 phones have SAMOLED screens - all others have LCD of some sort.
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I know for this much that its a HUGE pain in the but while trying to use bing to navigate while driving... constantly having to "tap" the screen to keep it from turning off.
They could at least have an option to have it so it doesnt shut off while certain aps are running.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I know for this much that its a HUGE pain in the but while trying to use bing to navigate while driving... constantly having to "tap" the screen to keep it from turning off.
They could at least have an option to have it so it doesnt shut off while certain aps are running.
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Once Bing Maps introduces turn-by-turn navigation (inevitable) they may implement something that lets the screen go to sleep between instructions, but wake up at important parts. Tom Tom have something like that on their devices...
Marvin_S said:
i just searched for it and found it
here you go
HKey_Local_Machine --> Control Panel --> Lock --> DisableNever key is set to dword:1 set this to dword:0
this will add the never option to your list of options
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Thanks but how can I access this registry?
You have to have a Chevron-unlocked WP7-Device and a Registry Viewer App. Then you can change it.
DomiKamp said:
You have to have a Chevron-unlocked WP7-Device and a Registry Viewer App. Then you can change it.
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My Focus is developer-unlocked and I successfully changed the registry value ( DisableNever is 0), but no joy. I even did a hard reset on the phone. Screen time-out options still only show values from 30 secs. to 5 mins. Any suggestions?
Marvin_S said:
i just searched for it and found it
here you go
HKey_Local_Machine --> Control Panel --> Lock --> DisableNever key is set to dword:1 set this to dword:0
this will add the never option to your list of options
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you can also use wpinternals.net app and reboot in mass storage mode, then use windows regedit to access
1)choose "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE"
"file>Load Hive>[phone_storage_disk]:\windows\system32\config\software" , name it "PHONE_SOFTWARE"
2)then go to this path:
MY PC\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PHONE_Software\Microsoft\Settings\Lock
and set DisableNever to 0
3)finally choose on "PHONE_SOFTWARE" and click "file>UnLoad Hive"
then reboot in normal mode and will see "Never" option
really 100 % working method, very easy, dont need root or so on!!!:хорошо:
(tested on my lumia 520)
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
937dytboi said:
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
937dytboi said:
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
PG2G said:
I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
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I like your ideas, you got something going there, we can build off of that, reason i made this thread to reflect on ideas as such
They look and work fine for me.
vetvito said:
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
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These ideas should definately be implemented, I totally agree
falconeight said:
They look and work fine for me.
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
937dytboi said:
They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
falconeight said:
They look and work fine for me.
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As I agree with you as of not but, the color selection is lame, I want to customize my phone a little. Right now besides using a hack to change or add colors, there is no way to really do that.
I would like to see some type of texture or something to jazz up the tiles a little.
They work great now but, just need a little tweaking in my eyes...
Magpir said:
I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
LexusFman said:
Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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vetvito said:
Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
Peew971 said:
My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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By 'police' I wasn't sure if you meant font size? Or Tile width?
As a developer you're limited by Microsoft to hardly any text on the front of a tile (and only in one specific position), and only the option of a large-ish font on the back of a tile (often too big as you say to display say a full news headline).
You can see what a developer is allowed to change on a tile here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh202948(v=vs.92).aspx
i.e. a single number, a small bit of text on the front, some text on the back, and a background image. I think it's too limiting at the moment.
You can get round these limitations a bit by dynamically generating the tile background (for front or back) as an image (e.g. of some smaller font text). That's not easy to code though, especially if you're trying to dynamically generate the image on the phone through say a wp7 background agent. It's a bit easier doing it on a server - but that means it won't work when there's no mobile signal. Having to generate the whole thing as an image (especially just to display smaller font text) also feels a little bit like using a sledgehammer to knock in a nail.
Similarly I think Microsoft should let developers create double width tiles - they could even make it a marketplace certification requirement that the user should have an option of specifying single/double width tile in the app. As long as the user has the option of choosing I can't see the harm.
Microsoft should be giving developers full and easy access to what happens in those 173 by 173 squares of tile pixels. Perhaps even give the user the option in-app as to whether the developer is allowed to make the Tile animate or not - I think then Tiles would become a lot more interesting.
Yeah I meant font size, sorry I'm French
On your app (loving it by the way) the text on the back is usually fine because it displays scores but on BBC News or WPCentral for instance you only get half a headline or something like that which is totally useless as you then need to open the app to know what's going on. It goes against the concept of Live Tiles, I don't get it. On the other hand, on the Me tile the font size adapts to the text there is to display so it is possible, it's just Microsoft not giving access to devs, totally stupid.
link68759 said:
I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Lie much? For every tile on WP7 I have a widget. Left Widgets behind? What planet are you on?
Tiles offer absolutely no function, only partial information.
Mesh together? Nearly every app implements good tile practices? Sure they do, sure...
Sense is fat and not that good? However your other post perfectly describes Sense.
But yeah
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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For me, the animation of the People tile has seemed pretty useless. There doesn't seem to be any meaning behind what people are displayed and why. If there is, I haven't seen it. I love the People Hub, but the Tile just doesn't provide much value to me.
To me, I would much rather have settings to determine which people would show on the tile. Then disappear once acknowledged, like the email indicators. So, if a contact updates Facebook, I may want to see it. But, I don't care if most of my contacts update things. So, in an ideal world a persons picture would only appear if they had updated something. Then it would be hidden and remain hidden once I acknowledged it. Then if something else would be updated, it would appear. And the users this would apply to would be set by me.
Effectively the animation of the People Tile just seems like noise.
Animation for the sake of animation is just distracting and consumes additional power.
I want the ability to control the app from the tile itself. Kind of like toggle switches.
Hardware limitations
Hi all
I think that some of the limitations on Live tiles are due to hardware considerations. Regular live tiles are limited to one background update per 30 minutes. This is because MS is keen to maintain performance and battery life. I think that as hardware improves, particularly mobile processors, we will see live tile functionality expand.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Hi all, I've used this forum for ages but never started a thread -hopefully it's in the right place (there's [APP] posts all over).
I've been developing an app which renders a QlockTwo style clock tile and updates every minute. It's not finished, but I though I'd start a thread and see if anyone is interested in a copy once I've finished it?
It's basically this on a tile (UK/English): qlocktwo.com
It works well and updates the tile as the time changes (until the phone enters battery saver, then it'll stop background agents).
It each time the background agent fires, it uses ScheduledActionService.LaunchForTest to schedule another invoke in 60 seconds - not great, but seems to work well and updates correctly.
Happy to post the XAP or code when complete if people are interested (gimme a couple of weeks). Should have waited to post this until I grabbed a screenshot, but I'll add one tonight.
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Ok, that's enough interest to get me moving - v0.1 complete! I've uploaded a XAP file here (can't post links yet - so remove spaces!): www . deggle . com / transfer / Qlock.xap
I think that's all that needed for it to work - just pin the app, then run it. Each run of the app sets up/refreshes the background agent, and forces a refresh of the tile.
I guess it would make sense for the app, when opened to show a large version of the Qlock full screen - I'll work on that.
If you rename the .XAP to .CAB (and back after) you may be able to edit the QlockA.png and QlockB.png to change the background colour if you fancy (currently white on black). Eventually I'll add an option in the software to change this on the fly. Let me know your thoughts!
Tim
Interested!
Backflipping said:
Hi all, I've used this forum for ages but never started a thread -hopefully it's in the right place (there's [APP] posts all over).
I've been developing an app which renders a QlockTwo style clock tile and updates every minute. It's not finished, but I though I'd start a thread and see if anyone is interested in a copy once I've finished it?
It's basically this on a tile (UK/English): qlocktwo.com
It works well and updates the tile as the time changes (until the phone enters battery saver, then it'll stop background agents).
It each time the background agent fires, it uses ScheduledActionService.LaunchForTest to schedule another invoke in 60 seconds - not great, but seems to work well and updates correctly.
Happy to post the XAP or code when complete if people are interested (gimme a couple of weeks). Should have waited to post this until I grabbed a screenshot, but I'll add one tonight.
Thoughts?
Tim
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really intrested!
me to
I´m also interested
bug in 24hrs format?
now it shows me "It is a quarter to ".. without the last word...
yeah is it a nice tile
is there multilingual in future?
Interest
This makes a good looking tile; very interested in possible updates
i like this app! if you need any help translating to dutch in the future, give me a ring
Wow this is awesome ,I love it !! Any chance to increase the font size , or increase the tile size to a bar (like for media) then maybe making the fonts bigger? I know its new and I appreciate your work this is nice!
You might get with Jaxbot in Development and see if you can incorpoarte this into the start up screen ,now that would be sweet!
I have been waiting for forever for the Qlocktwo W wristwatch to come out!
Oh how awesome it would be to have this on my lock screen...
Impressive start! As others suggested, lock screen implementation will be cool.
Good work!
How do you use it? I just installed it and when I launch it all it does is gives me a black screen that says qlock and that's it; no opptions or settings. Am I doing something wrong?
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Okay, got it working now.Hopefuly it will have more opptions in future versions. Also is wide tile possible, the letters are so tiny on my Trophy.
Works fine on my Focus Flash, but when I try to acces to the application, the only thing that I can see is the name of the application with any options.
If you wanna you can add this Screenshot of the application Running