Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
937dytboi said:
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
937dytboi said:
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
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PG2G said:
I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
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I like your ideas, you got something going there, we can build off of that, reason i made this thread to reflect on ideas as such
They look and work fine for me.
vetvito said:
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
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These ideas should definately be implemented, I totally agree
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They look and work fine for me.
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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They look and work fine for me.
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As I agree with you as of not but, the color selection is lame, I want to customize my phone a little. Right now besides using a hack to change or add colors, there is no way to really do that.
I would like to see some type of texture or something to jazz up the tiles a little.
They work great now but, just need a little tweaking in my eyes...
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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LexusFman said:
Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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By 'police' I wasn't sure if you meant font size? Or Tile width?
As a developer you're limited by Microsoft to hardly any text on the front of a tile (and only in one specific position), and only the option of a large-ish font on the back of a tile (often too big as you say to display say a full news headline).
You can see what a developer is allowed to change on a tile here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh202948(v=vs.92).aspx
i.e. a single number, a small bit of text on the front, some text on the back, and a background image. I think it's too limiting at the moment.
You can get round these limitations a bit by dynamically generating the tile background (for front or back) as an image (e.g. of some smaller font text). That's not easy to code though, especially if you're trying to dynamically generate the image on the phone through say a wp7 background agent. It's a bit easier doing it on a server - but that means it won't work when there's no mobile signal. Having to generate the whole thing as an image (especially just to display smaller font text) also feels a little bit like using a sledgehammer to knock in a nail.
Similarly I think Microsoft should let developers create double width tiles - they could even make it a marketplace certification requirement that the user should have an option of specifying single/double width tile in the app. As long as the user has the option of choosing I can't see the harm.
Microsoft should be giving developers full and easy access to what happens in those 173 by 173 squares of tile pixels. Perhaps even give the user the option in-app as to whether the developer is allowed to make the Tile animate or not - I think then Tiles would become a lot more interesting.
Yeah I meant font size, sorry I'm French
On your app (loving it by the way) the text on the back is usually fine because it displays scores but on BBC News or WPCentral for instance you only get half a headline or something like that which is totally useless as you then need to open the app to know what's going on. It goes against the concept of Live Tiles, I don't get it. On the other hand, on the Me tile the font size adapts to the text there is to display so it is possible, it's just Microsoft not giving access to devs, totally stupid.
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Lie much? For every tile on WP7 I have a widget. Left Widgets behind? What planet are you on?
Tiles offer absolutely no function, only partial information.
Mesh together? Nearly every app implements good tile practices? Sure they do, sure...
Sense is fat and not that good? However your other post perfectly describes Sense.
But yeah
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link68759 said:
I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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For me, the animation of the People tile has seemed pretty useless. There doesn't seem to be any meaning behind what people are displayed and why. If there is, I haven't seen it. I love the People Hub, but the Tile just doesn't provide much value to me.
To me, I would much rather have settings to determine which people would show on the tile. Then disappear once acknowledged, like the email indicators. So, if a contact updates Facebook, I may want to see it. But, I don't care if most of my contacts update things. So, in an ideal world a persons picture would only appear if they had updated something. Then it would be hidden and remain hidden once I acknowledged it. Then if something else would be updated, it would appear. And the users this would apply to would be set by me.
Effectively the animation of the People Tile just seems like noise.
Animation for the sake of animation is just distracting and consumes additional power.
I want the ability to control the app from the tile itself. Kind of like toggle switches.
Hardware limitations
Hi all
I think that some of the limitations on Live tiles are due to hardware considerations. Regular live tiles are limited to one background update per 30 minutes. This is because MS is keen to maintain performance and battery life. I think that as hardware improves, particularly mobile processors, we will see live tile functionality expand.
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andrew-in-woking
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I'm interested in changing the launcher, so I've pushed a new theme that gets rid of the application drawer.
As it is right now, it does not have support for:
-Wallpapers
-Icons
-Shortcuts
-Widgets
-Multiple Screens (at the moment there really isn't much need for one)
What it does have support for:
-Single 1x1 icon for all of your apps to be displayed
-1x3 along bottom row in portrait for your most recently used apps
-1x along bottom row in landscape for your most recently used apps
The above unsupported features are going to be my goal as I work with this example I think, might have it up on github if there is interest to reinvent a minimized launcher with *favorite apps* row.
I really like the fact that this does not waste 1x4 for the app tray pull up/push down tab.
Link: http://miano.us/android/theme-min-4.0.3.zip
can we see a screenshot?
Yeah, I would like to see a screenshot as well if possible.
I'm currently working on a theme and want to release as up-to-date as possible, so if this makes things smoother I would like to implement.
wow, that sounds just like.... heh...
Maybe you'll do something with it. I'm too lazy atm to learn java and actually do the modifications i planned.
jubeh said:
wow, that sounds just like.... heh...
Maybe you'll do something with it. I'm too lazy atm to learn java and actually do the modifications i planned.
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I'm 100% recycling the example code for home.apk I believe it's called.
I like the idea behind it - and it is really clean and makes use of 3x1 more blocks on the screen.
It's just going to be challenging incorporating everything from the launcher into this.
I'll post screen shots later, but it's not very glittery.
mianosm said:
I'm 100% recycling the example code for home.apk I believe it's called.
I like the idea behind it - and it is really clean and makes use of 3x1 more blocks on the screen.
It's just going to be challenging incorporating everything from the launcher into this.
I'll post screen shots later, but it's not very glittery.
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I know what it is, I put it up on another thread about a week or two ago, somebody was asking about home alternatives.
The thing's got a nasty bug where it doesn't keep the wallpaper on rotation. I agree it's really clean. Here's the ideas I planned on implementing, had I the necessary java knowledge:
-Enable widget support
-Enable multiple home screens along with swiping
-Enable two wallpaper display choices; Classic (a single wallpaper for the whole thing) or Themed (a wallpaper per screen, maybe introduce a different animation for changing screen (transitions) since just sliding would look kind of ugly with the wallpapers sliding side to side)
- Make the current space that does nothing (the space where the app tray expands to) a 4x5 grid exclusively for widgets because...
-Make the three "Recent Apps" strip a sliding (left to right) "Favorites" dock where you'd toss in your app icons (insted of the home screens, I'd like to keep those for widgets)
-Incorporate some widgets (full screen a la "Hero") that are not available in the regular Launcher but are still compatible with the regular laucher's widget api. They would be packed with the launcher, much like search is part of launcher or power control is part of settings.
I'm studying java, but I don't know that I'll be able to work on it anytime soon. Maybe you can do it (if you like the ideas) or enlist other devs to come up with the code pieces to make it all work (I'm studying the way the current laucher works and seeing how I can import widget support to the Home.apk)
I'm still trying hard to figure out customization on my Desire.
In all cases, really I find you don't really need any widgets, like stuff for contacts/social network/SMS/calendar etc, you can access all of that via icons or shotcuts links etc.
Just wondering should I even bother to put wigets or just keep everything icon based? I know this is matter of taste and opinion but I'm at a deadlock and I don't know what to put.
BriEE said:
I'm still trying hard to figure out customization on my Desire.
In all cases, really I find you don't really need any widgets, like stuff for contacts/social network/SMS/calendar etc, you can access all of that via icons or shotcuts links etc.
Just wondering should I even bother to put wigets or just keep everything icon based? I know this is matter of taste and opinion but I'm at a deadlock and I don't know what to put.
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get apps organizer from the market, and you dont need to put all the apps on your homescreen anymore - also, there are some really nice widgets around
Well my current "theme" i'm working on is attached.
Not really minimalist, but I might go to do, not super minimal but just enough to show what info I need and get to quick things.
For me, contrary to many, I really don't care of "themes" etc for my phone as long as it is black-ish. I have added basic changes but only quick 'n' easy ones and they don't mean much to me in terms of value and worth. I could just as happy live without them.
I set it up for speed and functionality in my every day life whilst maintaining my usual battery runtimes. Quickest, easiest access and display of whatever I do frequently and repeatedly with the least power drain. For this, some widgets are an absolute must. It's difficult to characterize how much they help me but I use them extensively. Extended Controls, Quick Boot, Google search bar, HTC Bookmarks/Calendar/Stocks, Pure Messenger (Mail/GMail/SMS), Appointment display, All Sync, 3G Watchdog, LED Hacks, Mini Info and Apps Organizer/Folder Organizer. Simple icon shortcuts couldn't carry out the objectives they fulfil at such speeds, with such organization and with that much less user interaction.
In the end, how much widgets offer will vary user to user but there is no equivalent to these for me.
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Just as the title says.
Go to http://www.zoubda.fr/livetilesgenerator/ on your phones internet browser (IE, Surfcube etc)
It will generate a webpage with whatever title's you want so that you can organize your homescreen.
Once the page is generated click the bottom 3 dot menu and select "pin to start"
Done and done that easy!.
Enjoy guys!
By the way, NOT my work I just stumbled across this reading through some WP7 news threads
Just thought I'd add a few photos to show everyone how easy it really is. Literally just follow along with the steps shown and you shouldnt have any issues. It's about as easy as... well... it can be!
But how did the color of other tiles changed?? For me it just shwos one tile with 'test' as black.. all other tiles have the old color..
What other tiles, my actual App tiles?... The Grey? That was done using a colour changer that you can use when you have a jail broken phone. This is not going to change the colour of all your tiles. This just adds custom tiles that you can use to organize your home screen
http://blog.iqagency.com/?p=3751
Read about it here... awesome idea and it has organised my start screen beautifuly.
woow this is really great I hope Microsoft make something like this
eizsoft said:
woow this is really great I hope Microsoft make something like this
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Microsoft has already given you the ability to do this, and it works great. Check the links.
Avandor said:
Microsoft has already given you the ability to do this, and it works great. Check the links.
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That's true, and it does work, but it isn't a perfect solution. If the OS provided the ability to add special "title" and "separator" tiles (that don't respond to taps) that followed the user's selected color theme, then it would be perfect, especially if those special tiles could be half height.
Still, after adding my own categories last night, my Start screen is light years better than before. I think I may follow the example of the link you created though, and redo mine in Photoshop and upload them to my own web space. Then I could make better use of side-by-side tiles.
This is pretty simple and somewhat eligant but frustrating in the fact that if you click on it you go to a web page.
RoboDad said:
That's true, and it does work, but it isn't a perfect solution. If the OS provided the ability to add special "title" and "separator" tiles (that don't respond to taps) that followed the user's selected color theme, then it would be perfect, especially if those special tiles could be half height.
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I agree... I have yet to click on any of the tiles I pinned (have 3 currently), but would be perfect if no link was added, just a simple separator style of tiles (with different lengths).
Hello all
I updated the page (http://www.zoubda.fr/livetilesgenerator/) It’s now possible :
-to add a picture as a background instead of a color
-share the link so you can create them on your desktop and simply copy/past the url or you can share it with your friends.
And I also removed the white space at the left of the text.
So, you can now have things like that :
Enjoy
Nice work! Thanks.
Hello,
Suggest that you make colored squares with the upper half of the square in black and the bottom colored. In this way, the black upper half will give the illusion of black/blank space to separate the top tiles from the bottom category tiles.
tagazok said:
Hello all
I updated the page (http://www.zoubda.fr/livetilesgenerator/) It’s now possible :
-to add a picture as a background instead of a color
-share the link so you can create them on your desktop and simply copy/past the url or you can share it with your friends.
And I also removed the white space at the left of the text.
So, you can now have things like that :
Enjoy
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very cool stuff, thanks a lot for sharing!
Nice work!
If there was a way to organize the app page by category I'd be very happy!
Thank you very much
This is working great for me...
I hate to be picky, but i have a question:
is it possible to make these tiles half the height but keep the width the same (rectangle not square)?
this way you can see the new app "category" but not space the tiles so much apart.... or do the tiles have to stay at the set dimensions (square) from MS?
also, is there a way to disable the generated tiles from opening on clicking them by mistake??
Thanks again
All tiles are square, 173x173 pixels. There is no way to make a half height tile today. And, unfortunately, there is also no way to make a tile that won't respond to a "click".
The technique that we are using here isn't one that was designed to allow people to display category titles. It was designed to allow people to pin links to web pages onto the start screen.
You can always link those tiles to any web you want.
1. Load the image you want as a tile in the browser
2. Type a new URL on the address bar.
3. Quickly press stop (X) before the phone starts loading the new site. The new URL will be on the address bar but on the screen you will still have your tile image.
4. Pin to start. Now you have a web link tile with a custom image background.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Just as the title says.
Go to http://www.zoubda.fr/livetilesgenerator/
It will generate a webpage with whatever title's you want so that you can organize your homescreen.
Once the page is generated click the bottom 3 dot menu and select "pin to start"
Done and done that easy!.
Enjoy guys!
By the way, NOT my work I just stumbled across this reading through some WP7 news threads
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Yes cool, But go to the link on you mobile phone Internet Explorere.
Not your desktop/laptop.
FlowerPotmen said:
Yes cool, But go to the link on you mobile phone Internet Explorere.
Not your desktop/laptop.
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What's wrong with it? Works like a charm. If it doesn't work for you, I assume your IE is set to mobile view instead of desktop view. Switch and check again.
hey,
if someone would like a clock tile like the htc sense or a big clock tile like the htc hub, too. pls vote !
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...4049-livetile-with-a-clock-like-the-htc-sense
best regards ahlMAR
No,sense not, it is ugly and it is eating the system memory to much. Sense belongs to android.
no complete sense only the clock as a tile
It is not possible the policy of microsoft does not allow it.The producer can not adjust the today screen.
ahlMAR said:
hey,
if someone would like a clock tile like the htc sense or a big clock tile like the htc hub, too. pls vote !
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...4049-livetile-with-a-clock-like-the-htc-sense
best regards ahlMAR
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I wish I could vote on that. I'm out of votes. But I have been curious why there isn't any live tile clocks. I've looked and looked and there aren't any that I see.
Lets hope MS implements this.
MartyLK said:
I wish I could vote on that. I'm out of votes. But I have been curious why there isn't any live tile clocks. I've looked and looked and there aren't any that I see.
Lets hope MS implements this.
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It's just not possible. At least not for third party developers. Live tiles refresh every half hour. Wouldn't make any sense for a clock, would it?
This isn't a request for a third party app based on the current version of the OS, it is a request to improve the OS so that such tiles could be developed.
Responding with "it's just not possible" could be applied to every request that has been submitted. Isn't that the whole point of the requests?
RoboDad said:
This isn't a request for a third party app based on the current version of the OS, it is a request to improve the OS so that such tiles could be developed.
Responding with "it's just not possible" could be applied to every request that has been submitted. Isn't that the whole point of the requests?
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It wasn't in response to the request made by the OP. It was in response to MartyLK pondering about the fact that there currently is no clock live tile available.
dkp1977 said:
It wasn't in response to the request made by the OP. It was in response to MartyLK pondering about the fact that there currently is no clock live tile available.
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I knew there had to be something like that going on. But I didn't know about the live tile limitation. Maybe MS may make the system where certain functions can have varying refresh rates. Like every minute for clocks. (without second hand)
Isn't it enough with the clock on the lock screen or in the HTC Hub in addition to the top task bar
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theman60625 said:
Isn't it enough with the clock on the lock screen or in the HTC Hub in addition to the top task bar
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The taskbar clock is too small and the HTC hub clock is inside the super slow loading hub, would make a quick glance not possible. A nice analog tile clock would be a small amount of visual enhancement and provide a quick time alert while doing others things on the phone. Actually it would be cool to be able to quickly bring up the tile clock at any time while inside other apps.
Are you all high?
There is a live tile clock. It isn't the best looking thing in the world but it works and it's free.
Analog Clock Live Tile
nobnut said:
Are you all high?
There is a live tile clock. It isn't the best looking thing in the world but it works and it's free.
Analog Clock Live Tile
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Sweet! Thanks for the heads-up.
EDIT - Eh...not really a viable live tile clock. It doesn't keep up with the time.
Good idea , but it isn't time for MS to unlock WP7 like MS 6.5, since it isn't completed yet.
I hope Sense will come like,manila.exe on WM 6.5.
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The Analog Clock Live Tile referred here DOES NOT WORK. It does show the time but only just at the exact time you pin it to the start screen. As soon as this is done that time is frozen! The minute or second hands are not moving. I stared at it for about fifteen minutes and it stayed at 10:30 when it should have gone to 10:45. So it's really useless. I unpinned it because it does not give me the correct time. I hope the creators of this app do something about this.
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The Analog Clock Live Tile referred here DOES NOT WORK. It does show the time but only just at the exact time you pin it to the start screen. As soon as this is done that time is frozen! The minute or second hands are not moving. I stared at it for about fifteen minutes and it stayed at 10:30 when it should have gone to 10:45. So it's really useless. I unpinned it because it does not give me the correct time. I hope the creators of this app do something about this.
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From what I understand, live tiles update only every 30 minutes. That's why a live tile clock isn't viable. Any live tile clock will be limited to displaying the correct time only every 30 minutes.
The guys are right, don't get me wrong, I miss the clock but it would not work as the live tiles only update every 30 mins. or so like the guys said. I know that on the battery meter app you have to tap on it and then it updates to the correct percentage on the live tile, A clock would simply be like way off.
Well... what I'm doing to keep up the clock after unlock is running HTC Hub in the background (that's the only app left running in the background).
When HTC hub is running simply tap windows menu hotkey, then after u done what you should - tap back at the "start" and HTC hub will appear. After you lock and unlock HTC hub will remain open with the clock and weather...
Thats the simplest way for now to have that clock after waking up device
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Well... what I'm doing to keep up the clock after unlock is running HTC Hub in the background (that's the only app left running in the background).
When HTC hub is running simply tap windows menu hotkey, then after u done what you should - tap back at the "start" and HTC hub will appear. After you lock and unlock HTC hub will remain open with the clock and weather...
Thats the simplest way for now to have that clock after waking up device
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Well if you can get it to work that would be awesome, and you can count me in. So do you have a beta version that we can download?
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Well if you can get it to work that would be awesome, and you can count me in. So do you have a beta version that we can download?
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What beta? Just do what he described. oO Start the app, back out of it by using the home button and then do whatever you want to do. Now before you send your device to sleep (hit the power button) just tap and hold your back button. Choose the HTC hub again and THEN lock your device. When you unlock it again, HTC hub will be displayed again.
Tired of moving your fingers up/down your tablet to switch applications? Try out TasKarou!
TasKarou is a multitasking launcher overlay.
Taking inspiration from the 'Quick Controls' feature in the android browser, TasKarou provides a multitasking layer on top of a launcher on tablets.
By swiping anywhere on the left or right edge of your tablet screen, you can activate TasKarou's UI.
It gives you access to a quick, smooth, and intuitive interface to facilitate app launch, transition, and management for the user
The user interface brings a more responsive, and enjoyable level of interaction to your tablet.
Notes:
To use TasKarou, set it as the default home launcher, and from TasKarou's settings, select the actual home launcher you want to overlay.
TasKarou user interface is then triggered by swiping from either the left of right edge of your tablet screen, while still allowing access to the overlaid home launcher through the home button.
The app is also available in the android market.
nice app, but how do i use the browser controls? when im in the browser and put my finger to the side the taskarou menu opens...
kendong2 said:
nice app, but how do i use the browser controls? when im in the browser and put my finger to the side the taskarou menu opens...
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It's not possible to use both at the same time, since both controls rely on the user touching the edge of the screen.
If you have an idea on how I could get around that issue, I'm all ear.
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It's not possible to use both at the same time, since both controls rely on the user touching the edge of the screen.
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that sucks, because it basically makes the browser unusable.
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If you have an idea on how I could get around that issue, I'm all ear.
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some ideas from the top of my head:
- disable taskarou menu completely when in browser
- disable one side of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
- disable the upper/lower/middle half of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
on another note, the notification HAS to go. at least make it optional.
that being said, i really do like the concept of the app :good: i found myself regularly swiping in from the screen edges when not in browser, and then being disappointed that nothing happened.
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that sucks, because it basically makes the browser unusable.
some ideas from the top of my head:
- disable taskarou menu completely when in browser
- disable one side of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
- disable the upper/lower/middle half of the screen (permanently or when in browser)
on another note, the notification HAS to go. at least make it optional.
that being said, i really do like the concept of the app :good: i found myself regularly swiping in from the screen edges when not in browser, and then being disappointed that nothing happened.
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Thanks for your suggestions. I have a few other ideas along with the ones you suggest that I will try to integrate, and test in the following days.
In the meantime, I updated TasKarou to also support android phones. I duplicated this thread in the 'Android Apps and Games' section to make it more visible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984010
I like this. Definitely a nice addition to my current launcher.
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Definitely slick in some aspects. Can't say I really like it as it messes with my LMT set up and takes up more RAM on top of it.
There's a lot to be done like distinguishing different "hotspots" and designating right side only or left side only. Overall though I really enjoy the transitions and how the menu auto-switches based on which choices you're hovering over. Very intuitive choices too that I agree with about which things go where.
Looking forward to the potential this holds in the future. I may just abandon my LMT setup if done right.
Edit: And of course the ability for users to add/edit the options, potentially switch the color for mere superficial reasons. Something like my screenshot.
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ne0fhyk said:
It's not possible to use both at the same time, since both controls rely on the user touching the edge of the screen.
If you have an idea on how I could get around that issue, I'm all ear.
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Maybe ask SwipePad's developer.
(I'm not being sarcastic)
Really useful. Love the idea, but it does cause a few conflicts with apps that rely on swiping from the sides of the screen. Having said that, when I set the margin to 13 pixels I can use the Dolphin browser (for example) without too many issues by not swiping from the outer edge, but by placing the finger a little more away from the edge and then swiping inwards. Other apps are less forgiving.
What about a button in the notification area, which is visible at all times anyways?
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If swiping has the preference, then it would be more logical to align the available programs/tasks to the side from which was swiped. Swiping and selecting can be done with one hand then, regardless of which hand was used to swipe with.
The recents button is useless, I never use it, ever.
I'd like the option to use this instead and just disable the side activation altogether.
Nice idea. However on TF101 after getting the quick control moving the finger to one of the options too fast causes the quick controls to disappear. I have to move the thumb really slow in order to select any option. Hopefully, this will be fixed soon:fingers-crossed:.
ppl get over it, the man is trying to make ur life simpler, so if u don't like some stuff about the app then tell him your opinions in a decent way so he can make a proper development for the app instead of trashing it, otherwise f*** off
I like this!
1. I only see it from the right edge in portrait.
2. Might have a user selected area(s) for its swipe. This would allow those with conflicts to fix them. There is a similar app on Play which just gives a row running/recent apps icons which is not a bad interface. I found its use of the bottom obtrusive.
3. The home key does not go home in the base browser (I am using Trebuchet on a CM10).
4. There is a difference between "running" and "recent" (exited, cached, and still available.) !!
Long press of home gives a vertically tiled thumbnail view of both.
Taskarou shows only icons of running apps, not recent.
Taskarou should show both, either in two panes or in one with some distinction?, i.e. frame around one or the other. I sort of like having the thumbnails and they could be tiled or cascaded. If cascaded, should be focus-able, if tiled, scroll larger view like the app list. Best eliminated the number of apps option or make that for the pane (but that would be scroll-able for more). Cascading the main webOS motif. Flick down to kill?
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ppl get over it, the man is trying to make ur life simpler, so if u don't like some stuff about the app then tell him your opinions in a decent way so he can make a proper development for the app instead of trashing it, otherwise f*** off
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First of all, as far as I can see, no one is trashing his app. So maybe lower your tone a bit and at least pretend to be able to communicate in a proper way.instead of telling people to "F-off".
The developer probably appreciates the feedback as he responds to it. Feedback (be it positive or negative) is valuable for both him and the app he works on. The end product can benefit from any kind of feedback as it points out flaws and strong points, and it can give the developer some different perspectives and experiences from different users and from different devices.
The day a developer stops listening to his/her targeted market is the day the product will begin its downfall.
Hey man, I just noticed that you dont have a video demo on google play... would you like one? I can do some switches with a background music... may I do it and you decide after if use it or not?
360porcento said:
Hey man, I just noticed that you dont have a video demo on google play... would you like one? I can do some switches with a background music... may I do it and you decide after if use it or not?
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That'd be cool, thanks.
Was having issues on my Nexus 7 running SmoothRom 4.1.2. Updated to 4.2 and no more disappearing quick controls as soon as my finger leaves the border. To get them to stay I had to leave my finger there for at least 1.5 seconds. Now all is well. Really liking it. I look forward to extended and customizable menus
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Scratch that. Conflict was gesture control. Had it set to consume events in starting zone. So a touch on the edge first went to gesture control. Just an iD10t error.
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ddlooping said:
That'd be cool, thanks.
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Are you the the same guy as the OP?
360porcento said:
Are you the the same guy as the OP?
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No but it'd cool regardless as I'd be interested in seeing it in action.
(the app that is)
360porcento said:
Hey man, I just noticed that you dont have a video demo on google play... would you like one? I can do some switches with a background music... may I do it and you decide after if use it or not?
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I would loved one, that'd be greatly appreciated... thanks! (i am the op)