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hi i just upgrading my phone from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 imm76i (gsm/hspa+ without google wallet),
i am going to root the phone by cwm recovery, then i have some questions:
when i was on 4.0.2, i rooted the box by cwm, and when i want to do update by OTA, i have to refresh back to the original recovery in the factory 4.0.2 image to apply the package, and that's what i have done...
so here is the question: if i root it by cwm again, and then flash the new recovery.img from factory 4.0.4 image download from "https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjuimm76i"
to the phone, will it keep the ability to OTA to next android version? in another way, is there any difference between OTA & factory image OR, is there a identification to know that whether this device flashed a factory image or ota from a previous version?
ok, then if do not mv/rm /system/recovery-from-boot.p after flash cwm(for root), will it restore the stock recovery and keep the ability to do OTA?
erics_lu said:
hi i just upgrading my phone from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 imm76i (gsm/hspa+ without google wallet),
i am going to root the phone by cwm recovery, then i have some questions:
when i was on 4.0.2, i rooted the box by cwm, and when i want to do update by OTA, i have to refresh back to the original recovery in the factory 4.0.2 image to apply the package, and that's what i have done...
so here is the question: if i root it by cwm again, and then flash the new recovery.img from factory 4.0.4 image download from "https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjuimm76i"
to the phone, will it keep the ability to OTA to next android version? in another way, is there any difference between OTA & factory image OR, is there a identification to know that whether this device flashed a factory image or ota from a previous version?
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The ota is usually just the parts of the rom that have been updated, those image files are the whole rom, if u root u will be able to get the ota but it won't install even with factory recovery,I haven't done it since my N1 but if I remember right u can delete super user from system app folder and delete,--- com.noshufou.android.su and reboot and root should be gone then ota will work and after u update u just root agn .... but your way u did it is always an option ....
biggofer said:
The ota is usually just the parts of the rom that have been updated, those image files are the whole rom, if u root u will be able to get the ota but it won't install even with factory recovery,I haven't done it since my N1 but if I remember right u can delete super user from system app folder and delete,--- com.noshufou.android.su and reboot and root should be gone then ota will work and after u update u just root agn .... but your way u did it is always an option ....
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thank u for response, i tried to update to 4.0.4 from rooted 4.0.2, and everything is ok.. according to your condition, i think there may be some difference between nexus S and galaxy nexus, so root is not the question(though i met some problem while rooting 4.0.4 caused by the version of su.zip is out of date ).
now i am on 4.0.4 and rooted by cwm, and i didn't delete /system/recovery-from-boot.p, i hope that i will not have to re-flash stock recovery when the next OTA come
When you say that is rooted through CWM, means what exactly? You only used the CWM to root the device? But how?
yep cause i wanna use stock rom on my GN so far, so i use cwm only for root(by flashing a su.zip), and after googled a lot, i think it has went back to stock recovery now, no longer worry about OTA, thank you
erics_lu said:
hi i just upgrading my phone from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 imm76i (gsm/hspa+ without google wallet),
i am going to root the phone by cwm recovery, then i have some questions:
when i was on 4.0.2, i rooted the box by cwm, and when i want to do update by OTA, i have to refresh back to the original recovery in the factory 4.0.2 image to apply the package, and that's what i have done...
so here is the question: if i root it by cwm again, and then flash the new recovery.img from factory 4.0.4 image download from "https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjuimm76i"
to the phone, will it keep the ability to OTA to next android version? in another way, is there any difference between OTA & factory image OR, is there a identification to know that whether this device flashed a factory image or ota from a previous version?
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No difference. If you did not delete the two files (/system/etc/install-recovery.sh and /system/recovery-from-boot.p) then your device will automatically flash the correct stock recovery on every re-boot.
EDIT: Actually there is one difference: the OTA places those two files on your system, while a full stock ROM does not.
erics_lu said:
ok, then if do not mv/rm /system/recovery-from-boot.p after flash cwm(for root), will it restore the stock recovery and keep the ability to do OTA?
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Yes.
biggofer said:
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if u root u will be able to get the ota but it won't install even with factory recovery
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This is wrong. Rooting has no impact whatsoever on being able to install an OTA update.
efrant said:
No difference. If you did not delete the two files (/system/etc/install-recovery.sh and /system/recovery-from-boot.p) then your device will automatically flash the correct stock recovery on every re-boot.
Yes.
This is wrong. Rooting has no impact whatsoever on being able to install an OTA update.
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thank you so much, explained so detailed
if i manually update from 4.0.4 takju to the jb 4.1.1 through cmw, will i still get OTA updates in future. also, if the i do the update, will it lock the bootloader and erase cwm? thanks
wasya152 said:
if i manually update from 4.0.4 takju to the jb 4.1.1 through cmw, will i still get OTA updates in future. also, if the i do the update, will it lock the bootloader and erase cwm? thanks
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OK to get a few things right here, you need to have stock recovery to install OTA, no it won't relock boot loader, yes it will erase CWM. Your rom needs to be 100% stock (including boot loader, kernel and radio aswell as rom and recovery).
The way I just went to 4.1.1 (takju) I was running the preview JB Google IO rom anyway so in CWM I reflashed that to undo any system changes I made. Then using Mskips nexus tool kit I used it to flash stock recovery and then BOOT (NOT FLASH) to CWM. Find the update and flash it. Before you do all this use titanium to back up your stuff, do a nandroid and get voodoo OTA root keeper so you get root back after the update.
Then using the tool kit again I used it to flash CWM back. Then your done. I won't give further instructions but for further reading efrant has very good posts about this stuff, mskip has very good instructions on his tool kit in the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
i'm still a little confused. my phone is completely stock. it's a takju 4.0.4. i don't want to wait for the OTA for jb 4.1.1. i was going to use the nexus tool kit to unlock the bootloader ( i believe that's required to boot it into cwm) then run the OTA update that people posted for my version to update it. I don't care about keeping cwm or bootloader, just want the update now and keep the phone still stock. i also want to make sure that i'll get OTA updates in the future. It looks like I can just boot it into cwm without flashing it, so that's what i'm going to do.
wasya152 said:
i'm still a little confused. my phone is completely stock. it's a takju 4.0.4. i don't want to wait for the OTA for jb 4.1.1. i was going to use the nexus tool kit to unlock the bootloader ( i believe that's required to boot it into cwm) then run the OTA update that people posted for my version to update it. I don't care about keeping cwm or bootloader, just want the update now and keep the phone still stock. i also want to make sure that i'll get OTA updates in the future. It looks like I can just boot it into cwm without flashing it, so that's what i'm going to do.
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can anyone confirm that i can just boot into custom recovery and apply the update zip and still keep everything stock?
wasya152 said:
can anyone confirm that i can just boot into custom recovery and apply the update zip and still keep everything stock?
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Yeah you can but you need to unlock the boot loader to do it, which wipes your entire phone so back up any thing you want to keep like photos or music. When the bootloader is open you can just leave it and just lock it if you need to send for warranty. Or if you already have root but locked boot loader there is a free app to unlock it on play store
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
The Gingerbread Man said:
Yeah you can but you need to unlock the boot loader to do it, which wipes your entire phone so back up any thing you want to keep like photos or music. When the bootloader is open you can just leave it and just lock it if you need to send for warranty. Or if you already have root but locked boot loader there is a free app to unlock it on play store
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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once, i update the file using the nexus toolkit to boot into custom recovery, once it updates, it will lock the bootloader and the phone will be back to stock right? or is the bootloader going to stay open.
also, will i still get future OTA updates if i just do the update by booting into recovery and not flashing cwm?
wasya152 said:
once, i update the file using the nexus toolkit to boot into custom recovery, once it updates, it will lock the bootloader and the phone will be back to stock right? or is the bootloader going to stay open.
also, will i still get future OTA updates if i just do the update by booting into recovery and not flashing cwm?
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Once you unlock it the bootloader stays open until you choose lock I again. You can still get ota but remember you need the matching bootloader, kernel, radio and unmodified system and recovery. So just booting cwm is fine to apply and then after its applied the patch you can flash what ever you want again. I find its always a good idea to make a back up of a 100% stock rom and keep it on the pc just in case. This is all simple and quick with the tool kit
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
The Gingerbread Man said:
Once you unlock it the bootloader stays open until you choose lock I again. You can still get ota but remember you need the matching bootloader, kernel, radio and unmodified system and recovery. So just booting cwm is fine to apply and then after its applied the patch you can flash what ever you want again. I find its always a good idea to make a back up of a 100% stock rom and keep it on the pc just in case. This is all simple and quick with the tool kit
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Hey, first, thanks for the replies. Second, if I unlock the bootloader to install update, make no other changes, meaning everything else is stock and the update is googles stock update, them once the update is done, can I run the toolkit again to lock the bootloader. Doing this will it bring my phone to same everything as a stock ota updated one? Or is me unlocking and then locking bootloader going to cause me to have a different version for the next ota
wasya152 said:
Hey, first, thanks for the replies. Second, if I unlock the bootloader to install update, make no other changes, meaning everything else is stock and the update is googles stock update, them once the update is done, can I run the toolkit again to lock the bootloader. Doing this will it bring my phone to same everything as a stock ota updated one? Or is me unlocking and then locking bootloader going to cause me to have a different version for the next ota
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No worries its fine. Yes after you have successfully applied a stock OTA patch onto a stock rom then you are running the same as everyone. Their are minor regional differences, like takju and yakuto (what ever lol) toro, toro plus etc but flashing a ota patch from a different build won't work on a rom that doesn't match.
You can go to the Google developer site and search for the full ROM and you know definitely its 100% as its meant to be, the patches just write over the bits which change in updates. The thing to bear in MIMD about flashing the whole ROM from Google site is that it will wipe your entire phone
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images (keep looking through for the build you want and you can flash it using the flash tool. Back up your stuff like music photos etc first)
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Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
clankfu said:
Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
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Your safe to take it, initial root process will be the same regardless. You'll most likely root flashing cwm recovery or a insecure kernel in odin so the system wont matter.only the vzw model has a locked bootloader. doesnt apply to us
If you are at n00b status i personally reccomend mskips toolkit found here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746680 ---guys a genius, has everything you need.
you can't OTA update a phone that's rooted or has CWM on it, so definitely update before you root.
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
BrandonEnr7 said:
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Really the ota's don't matter ne way as the only important parts are the modems which can be dl'd here and applied in cwm anyway
Thanks fellas. My only concern was with the ability to root and staying unlocked after taking an OTA. I'm traumatized by the EVO 3D's OTA that updated the Hboot and was just a pain in the ass.
What's the current OTA address anyway?
BrandonEnr7 said:
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Hi,
I have a rooted Sprint GS3, running the stock ROM with just one or two root based apps. Do I need to unroot to accept the OTA update? If so, how do I go about doing that?
TheSapient said:
Hi,
I have a rooted Sprint GS3, running the stock ROM with just one or two root based apps. Do I need to unroot to accept the OTA update? If so, how do I go about doing that?
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if you would like to run a 4.3 stock ROM, there are a couple in the development section that you can choose from without having to run the 4.3 boot loader that contains KNOX. That way you don't have to go through the unroot process to accept the OTA.
jdelano said:
if you would like to run a 4.3 stock ROM, there are a couple in the development section that you can choose from without having to run the 4.3 boot loader that contains KNOX. That way you don't have to go through the unroot process to accept the OTA.
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Thanks. I think the preference is to accept the OTA. If we need to unroot, we'll do that if we can figure out how. Sorry for being a little vague. I'm trying to help someone else out.
ok, you can go here Restore to unrooted MD4 follow that and you're good to go
I was stock rooted with clockwork recovery.
Took the OTA without unrooting with no problems at all, just had to re-root when it was done.
dotNETProgrammer said:
I was stock rooted with clockwork recovery.
Took the OTA without unrooting with no problems at all, just had to re-root when it was done.
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Really? I thought it was always a bad idea with a custom recovery. Maybe we will try it rooted as well. Thanks.
Every other time I've tried it would download, but just wouldn't flash the OTA.
This time, it did. Surprised me.
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I got the update notification today when i woke up and when i clicked the restart and install it went to recovery mode, i panicked and clicked reboot (honestly still dont know what to do),
and restarted the phone without updating
I'm running stock 4.1.2 with just 2 root apps (superuser) and tatanium backup, how can i update ?
thanks
mjkubba said:
I got the update notification today when i woke up and when i clicked the restart and install it went to recovery mode, i panicked and clicked reboot (honestly still dont know what to do),
and restarted the phone without updating
I'm running stock 4.1.2 with just 2 root apps (superuser) and tatanium backup, how can i update ?
thanks
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Relax . You do not have to update. You do not have to lose Root. Check out THIS thread. It will explain a few things to you in detail about Updates, and how to stop the update nag. If you want to update to the latest TW 4.3 Stock Rooted, check out the thread HERE. Just make sure you read, and read again before doing anything. Also make sure to download the correct Rom. There are several versions on the thread.
prboy1969 said:
Relax . You do not have to update. You do not have to lose Root. Check out THIS thread. It will explain a few things to you in detail about Updates, and how to stop the update nag. If you want to update to the latest TW 4.3 Stock Rooted, check out the thread HERE. Just make sure you read, and read again before doing anything. Also make sure to download the correct Rom. There are several versions on the thread.
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Thanks for the answer.
I actually want to update to stock 4.3, and I was trying to achieve that by getting the OTA update.
And i was wondering if i can still do that?
If I simply can't then I'll just go to CM instead of getting other rooms since I used to have them with my old HTC.
Thanks again
If you want completely Stock Rooted 4.3, it's the second link I posted for you. It's the Stock, Rooted, Factory Rom, with Knox removed. All done by CNexus . Just be sure to read before doing anything. As there are several versions posted. I would highly suggest going this route instead of taking the OTA update. Once you take the OTA you will have Knox, and a different bootloader.
TEAM MiK MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Thanks a lot man, I'm having a problem installing the ROM, I'm getting assert error (status 7) error when trying to install the odexed rom,
I have just updated my CWM to 6.0.4.5
Sorry I cant reply to the thread directly, need 10 posts to be able to do so.
MJ
edit: now it's stuck on boot loop
edit: I downloaded the original recovery rom and installed it from ordin, then updated phone through kies. it's all good now.
I have rooted my Nexus 7 wifi 2012 tablet with TWRP
I don't want to keep un-rooting, applying ota updates then re-rooting my tablet. Is there an easy way. Maybe modified images i can use on a rooted tablet which i can install via the install option in twrp recovery loader.
I also notice that Nexus root tool kit has a ota sideload update option in the advanced menue.
So my question is where are the modifies ota update files if they exist as I don't want to keep un-rooting, rerooting each time to apply official ota updates. I have searched the net and can't find modifies ota updates?
My OTA failed due to root and modifications so I extracted system.img and boot.img from the 5.1 tarball and flashed them using Nexus Root Toolkit. Works well.
I'm going through the same issue - I want to keep running stock, but every time an OTA update comes in, it bugs me for an update until I go through the whole process of finding the files elsewhere, using the Toolkit to flash them etc etc.
Is there a better way to do this automatically? Can I find the downloaded OTA package on the Nexus and just flash it from there?
Since Lollipop, you can't take an OTA in any way (official or sideload) if you've modified your system. Rooting, custom recovery or kernel. Unrooting does not help since the system already has been modified.
Easiest way to upgrade and still keep your data is to flash the factory image but leave out userdata.img. This can be easily done through NRT (No wipe mode) if command prompt is scary. Yes you'll have to reroot... But hey, this is a Nexus, it's easy.
I assume that means waiting for someone to post the update?
If you want to wait for someone to make a prerooted image, then yes. Otherwise just download the official factory image (Google it) and go for it.
Google doesn't always release OTAs and factory images at the same time, so some waiting will probably always be involved...
Drives me crazy. TWRP used to be able to intercept a OTA flash, flash the needed images, detect you lost root and ask to restore root.
Somewhere that disappeared.
I just flashed a very old stock and took every OTA to 5.0.2, rooted, setup... now getting bombarded with 5.1.1 update notification. Ugh
Didgeridoohan said:
Since Lollipop, you can't take an OTA in any way (official or sideload) if you've modified your system. Rooting, custom recovery or kernel. Unrooting does not help since the system already has been modified.
Easiest way to upgrade and still keep your data is to flash the factory image but leave out userdata.img. This can be easily done through NRT (No wipe mode) if command prompt is scary. Yes you'll have to reroot... But hey, this is a Nexus, it's easy.
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I need to flash the latest lollipop image to my rooted nexus with TWRP. I know where to find the images but don't remember how to flash it. What exactly are the steps and how do I leave out userdata.img ?
And what are the steps to reroot lollipop?
Thanks
i keep getting the offer to download the 5.1 update but when i do it dloads it then tries to reboot into recovery to flash it but it obviously boots into TWRP recovery which is no good.
So the question is when it dloads the update where does it dload to?
and could i flash it from TWRP if i find it?