Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
clankfu said:
Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
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Your safe to take it, initial root process will be the same regardless. You'll most likely root flashing cwm recovery or a insecure kernel in odin so the system wont matter.only the vzw model has a locked bootloader. doesnt apply to us
If you are at n00b status i personally reccomend mskips toolkit found here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746680 ---guys a genius, has everything you need.
you can't OTA update a phone that's rooted or has CWM on it, so definitely update before you root.
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Really the ota's don't matter ne way as the only important parts are the modems which can be dl'd here and applied in cwm anyway
Thanks fellas. My only concern was with the ability to root and staying unlocked after taking an OTA. I'm traumatized by the EVO 3D's OTA that updated the Hboot and was just a pain in the ass.
What's the current OTA address anyway?
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Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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My HTC EVO came with the 2.3 update already installed, I rooted using Revolutionary. The latest OTA update appeared on my phone yesterday, and I decided to go ahead and install it. It wouldn't install using Clockworkmod Recovery, so I installed RA recovery. The update then installed correctly, I didn't know that RA recovery would be able to finish the update since Clockworkmod didn't work, but it did. The update did not remove root privileges, my phone remained rooted after the update. I did have to run the superuser zip installation from recovery after the process because Titanium backup, or Rom Manager weren't able to acquire root privileges. But after booting to recovery and running the superuser zip file again, superuser privileges were restored. So I just wanted to let you guys know in case you were wondering if this would remove your s-off, it doesn't. I am now on 4.53.651.1, after updating to latest OTA with s-off. Again use RA recovery to install the update.
If u flashed the stock rom posted here on xda you didn't loose root because the rom was already rooted by the dev who uploaded it silly...
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quique18 said:
My HTC EVO came with the 2.3 update already installed, I rooted using Revolutionary. The latest OTA update appeared on my phone yesterday, and I decided to go ahead and install it. It wouldn't install using Clockworkmod Recovery, so I installed RA recovery. The update then installed correctly, I didn't know that RA recovery would be able to finish the update since Clockworkmod didn't work, but it did. The update did not remove root privileges, my phone remained rooted after the update. I did have to run the superuser zip installation from recovery after the process because Titanium backup, or Rom Manager weren't able to acquire root privileges. But after booting to recovery and running the superuser zip file again, superuser privileges were restored. So I just wanted to let you guys know in case you were wondering if this would remove your s-off, it doesn't. I am now on 4.53.651.1, after updating to latest OTA with s-off. Again use RA recovery to install the update.
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Hey welcome to the Evo forums and I am glad that worked out for you. But as the poster above me noted all you had to do was just flash a rooted 4.53 rom and you would of been fine. I would like to suggest not to try that in the future or really direct others to try since it may break root.
Also to save yourself some bashing I suggest you put post like these in the General section or Q&A and not Development. Since this section is just for Roms, Kernels and such.
Once again glad it worked out for you and enjoy
Thats not what I stated, I said my phone came with 2.3 preloaded, I rooted it using revolutionary, then took the ota update.
I will post in different section next time.
quique18 said:
Thats not what I stated, I said my phone came with 2.3 preloaded, I rooted it using revolutionary, then took the ota update.
I will post in different section next time.
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It's because Revo. replaces it with a custom Hboot that OTA's cannot overwrite, like the unrevoked method, if they pushed an update it would also update all the legit developer phones, so taking an ota can make you lose root, but not s-off, and root is easily obtained with s-off.
I have stock ROM installed and stock recovery and I want to keep that way.
So my questions is, is it possible to root my device while keeping everything stock and get OTA updates without problems.
The only thing I need rooting for is to use Market Enabler.
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
omar_bazaraa said:
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
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If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
Slaxington said:
If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
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Flash the stock recovery of the software version your on
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Read the portal news, http://www.xda-developers.com/android/root-many-ics-and-jelly-bean-android-devices/
A dev just release exploit based rooting method, you might wanna to try it since you wish to keep stock recovery.
However, you might loose root access after OTA as they always patch the root access back. Simply use some root keeper or method from above(if working) to gain back root access.
UPDATES: seems we have solid devices, LINK. You may try it, though.
Thanks for helping out an Android noob. I recently rooted and installed CWM recovery. This is my first OTA update since doing so and I haven't been able to find any clear instructions on what to do.
I assume there are a few options - I'd love to hear what they are and what advantages/disadvantages each has. I'm assuming I can unroot and go totally stock but I'm not really sure how to flash a stock recovery. I've also read that using OTA Rootkeeper is a great way to temp unroot then reroot after the OTA. I'm a little confused since I see a similar option in the SuperUser app - does that work as well?
I also am wondering if there will be a CWM flashable package in the near future that we can use and if it's worth waiting for something like that?
Thanks again.
There's a thread here discussing the OTA and how people are installing it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893036
I am running rooted stock (without CWM) and I simply used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and then did the update. Since you have CWM, I think you've got a few additional steps.
rickwood said:
There's a thread here discussing the OTA and how people are installing it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893036
I am running rooted stock (without CWM) and I simply used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and then did the update. Since you have CWM, I think you've got a few additional steps.
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Thanks but I've been following that thread - there aren't any instructions just comments on personal situations. I'm sure there are many like me who need a bit of a guide for this specific situation. It definitely sounds easier without CWM - I'm surprised I can't find any clear instructions on how to revert to stock recovery.
You can get the OTA as long as your are running a stock ROM! or worst case scenario you just have to update through Kies!!
Use odin to install stock rooted image and recovery. Then get voodoo ota rootkeeper from the play store. Run it to preserve root. Check for software update. Install update. Restore root with rootkeeper. Reinstall custom recovery. Done.
kjpedro said:
You can get the OTA as long as your are running a stock ROM! or worst case scenario you just have to update through Kies!!
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From what I understand you need to unroot to get the OTA - though Kies might be a workaround.
I'm specifically talking about rooted WITH CWM. You cannot get the OTA without stock recovery (based on what I've read).
gunnyman said:
Use odin to install stock rooted image and recovery. Then get voodoo ota rootkeeper from the play store. Run it to preserve root. Check for software update. Install update. Restore root with rootkeeper. Reinstall custom recovery. Done.
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Thanks gunny! Do you lose apps/settings when flashing back to stock rooted/recovery or is everything preserved?
Surprising to me nothing was lost.
Hi,
I have a rooted Sprint GS3, running the stock ROM with just one or two root based apps. Do I need to unroot to accept the OTA update? If so, how do I go about doing that?
TheSapient said:
Hi,
I have a rooted Sprint GS3, running the stock ROM with just one or two root based apps. Do I need to unroot to accept the OTA update? If so, how do I go about doing that?
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if you would like to run a 4.3 stock ROM, there are a couple in the development section that you can choose from without having to run the 4.3 boot loader that contains KNOX. That way you don't have to go through the unroot process to accept the OTA.
jdelano said:
if you would like to run a 4.3 stock ROM, there are a couple in the development section that you can choose from without having to run the 4.3 boot loader that contains KNOX. That way you don't have to go through the unroot process to accept the OTA.
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Thanks. I think the preference is to accept the OTA. If we need to unroot, we'll do that if we can figure out how. Sorry for being a little vague. I'm trying to help someone else out.
ok, you can go here Restore to unrooted MD4 follow that and you're good to go
I was stock rooted with clockwork recovery.
Took the OTA without unrooting with no problems at all, just had to re-root when it was done.
dotNETProgrammer said:
I was stock rooted with clockwork recovery.
Took the OTA without unrooting with no problems at all, just had to re-root when it was done.
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Really? I thought it was always a bad idea with a custom recovery. Maybe we will try it rooted as well. Thanks.
Every other time I've tried it would download, but just wouldn't flash the OTA.
This time, it did. Surprised me.
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I got the update notification today when i woke up and when i clicked the restart and install it went to recovery mode, i panicked and clicked reboot (honestly still dont know what to do),
and restarted the phone without updating
I'm running stock 4.1.2 with just 2 root apps (superuser) and tatanium backup, how can i update ?
thanks
mjkubba said:
I got the update notification today when i woke up and when i clicked the restart and install it went to recovery mode, i panicked and clicked reboot (honestly still dont know what to do),
and restarted the phone without updating
I'm running stock 4.1.2 with just 2 root apps (superuser) and tatanium backup, how can i update ?
thanks
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Relax . You do not have to update. You do not have to lose Root. Check out THIS thread. It will explain a few things to you in detail about Updates, and how to stop the update nag. If you want to update to the latest TW 4.3 Stock Rooted, check out the thread HERE. Just make sure you read, and read again before doing anything. Also make sure to download the correct Rom. There are several versions on the thread.
prboy1969 said:
Relax . You do not have to update. You do not have to lose Root. Check out THIS thread. It will explain a few things to you in detail about Updates, and how to stop the update nag. If you want to update to the latest TW 4.3 Stock Rooted, check out the thread HERE. Just make sure you read, and read again before doing anything. Also make sure to download the correct Rom. There are several versions on the thread.
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Thanks for the answer.
I actually want to update to stock 4.3, and I was trying to achieve that by getting the OTA update.
And i was wondering if i can still do that?
If I simply can't then I'll just go to CM instead of getting other rooms since I used to have them with my old HTC.
Thanks again
If you want completely Stock Rooted 4.3, it's the second link I posted for you. It's the Stock, Rooted, Factory Rom, with Knox removed. All done by CNexus . Just be sure to read before doing anything. As there are several versions posted. I would highly suggest going this route instead of taking the OTA update. Once you take the OTA you will have Knox, and a different bootloader.
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Thanks a lot man, I'm having a problem installing the ROM, I'm getting assert error (status 7) error when trying to install the odexed rom,
I have just updated my CWM to 6.0.4.5
Sorry I cant reply to the thread directly, need 10 posts to be able to do so.
MJ
edit: now it's stuck on boot loop
edit: I downloaded the original recovery rom and installed it from ordin, then updated phone through kies. it's all good now.
Hi,
My phone somehow managed to update itself to 4.3 even though I've been denying it for several weeks in attempts to get around to using Rumrunner. But now I'm stuck on 4.3 without root, and that caused a couple things to break from when I previously had root (some items are perma-frozen and I cannot "unroot" to access GOOD).
Is there any way to fix this currently since I am S-Off? Like can I go back to 4.2.2 since I'm S-Off?
Fastboot flash twrp or cwm, unless its already installed and accessable. Then flash the superuser zip thru recovery. That will give you root back.
cmlusco said:
Fastboot flash twrp or cwm, unless its already installed and accessable. Then flash the superuser zip thru recovery. That will give you root back.
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I'll give that a shot, thank you!
Works great thanks. I see 4.4 is now trying to be pushed. Can I repeat this process if I try to take the OTA or will it fail because of CWM?
It will fail unless you are complete stock. You can and should remain s-off. To take the ota, you would have to ruu and then take the ota(s). Once updated, you just fastboot flash recovery and then flash su thru recovery. Then you will have stock rooted KK.
cmlusco said:
It will fail unless you are complete stock. You can and should remain s-off. To take the ota, you would have to ruu and then take the ota(s). Once updated, you just fastboot flash recovery and then flash su thru recovery. Then you will have stock rooted KK.
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OK thanks, that makes sense to me. I guess I'll just wait for a stock rooted ROM or something, as that seems like it'll be less hassle. Much thanks.
Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485319