I have stock ROM installed and stock recovery and I want to keep that way.
So my questions is, is it possible to root my device while keeping everything stock and get OTA updates without problems.
The only thing I need rooting for is to use Market Enabler.
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
omar_bazaraa said:
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
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If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
Slaxington said:
If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
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Flash the stock recovery of the software version your on
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Read the portal news, http://www.xda-developers.com/android/root-many-ics-and-jelly-bean-android-devices/
A dev just release exploit based rooting method, you might wanna to try it since you wish to keep stock recovery.
However, you might loose root access after OTA as they always patch the root access back. Simply use some root keeper or method from above(if working) to gain back root access.
UPDATES: seems we have solid devices, LINK. You may try it, though.
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Maybe a noobish question, but im sorry
As the title says : if i root the phone, will i be able to recieve updates OTA ?
edit : and same question : if i get cwr (for nandroid backups) will i be able to recieve OTA updates?
Thanks guys
So long as you're running the stock rom, you should still get OTA updates. They may or may not break root, but you'll have to risk that. If you're running a custom ROM, then you probably will not get OTA updates, but you can of course update your ROM as per the developer builds.
You will remove root if you install an OTA, and I have heard of people actually bricking their phones installing an OTA with root.
installing CWM will break OTA even if you're on the stock ROM because it flashes in stock recovery, not CWM.
...and from the mixed responses you can tell that it wasn't really a noob question. (all answers were partially correct, btw).
The update will still get pushed to your phone, based on the build version of your phone. The custom recovery will fail to install, at which point you can simply install it yourself by performing a manual flash via recovery.
Depending on the extent of the update, you may or may not lose root, and possibly even your custom recovery. Your best option is to manually flash an update, then the su.zip, and I've also put together flashable a script to prevent your custom recovery from reverting to stock at your next boot (I'll post it when I get chance). Flash all the files while in CWM, and you're golden!
I have reached maximum thanks-per-day, otherwise i would give a thanks to all of you..
So, i still have few questions :
1) If i root, get custom CWM, but stock rom, will i still be able to SEE ota update, and to DL it over the OTA (not flash it)?
2) Can i brick my device with flashing ota , while rooted and with custom CWM ?
Thanks in advance
-yes it will still show up.
-it won't brick your device, but the update will fail, and you'll have to pull battery to gay back into the os.
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I want to unlock, root and busybox my HOX will i still be able to get OTA updates?
Instructions on how to root etc can be found here
You could, flash custom recovery, flash su.zip to enable root access on Stock ROM, then flash stock recovery, you will still receive OTA updates but you will probably lose your ROOT if you updated.
Any Reason you want to stay with Stock ROM?
I came from HD2 so im used to custom roms, but its kind of nice to have everytihng working fine from stock, and updates from HTC, it also seems nore relayable, but i miss the root access.
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Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
clankfu said:
Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
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Your safe to take it, initial root process will be the same regardless. You'll most likely root flashing cwm recovery or a insecure kernel in odin so the system wont matter.only the vzw model has a locked bootloader. doesnt apply to us
If you are at n00b status i personally reccomend mskips toolkit found here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746680 ---guys a genius, has everything you need.
you can't OTA update a phone that's rooted or has CWM on it, so definitely update before you root.
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Really the ota's don't matter ne way as the only important parts are the modems which can be dl'd here and applied in cwm anyway
Thanks fellas. My only concern was with the ability to root and staying unlocked after taking an OTA. I'm traumatized by the EVO 3D's OTA that updated the Hboot and was just a pain in the ass.
What's the current OTA address anyway?
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Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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rooted all my devices, havent rooted this one yet in fear for it messing with OTA. if i use the insecure boot imagine flashing via odin root method (option #1 on the toolkit), will i lose the ability to receive OTA updates?
You could always skip it, remove root and get it later on that day.
If you keep all the stock apps it would probably remove root without effecting anything else.
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rooting by itself shoukdnt cause problems if you're using stock recovery and don't modify system files. Ota can interfere with root though.
uluaz said:
rooted all my devices, havent rooted this one yet in fear for it messing with OTA. if i use the insecure boot imagine flashing via odin root method (option #1 on the toolkit), will i lose the ability to receive OTA updates?
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I believe you would be able to get an OTA if you were just rooted, but after applying it, it would break your root and your would have to root over again. If you have a custom recovery the OTA would just fail to install. I could be wrong on the first part, it's been a long time since I only rooted, without installing a custom recovery as well.
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what about if i install OTA rootkeeper? would that make a difference?
The biggest thing you need to consider is whether you have a custom recovery or stock. Only a stock recovery will let an OTA update flash. If it's custom you'll want to either flash to stock before trying to update or wait a day or so unitl someone uploads a rooted .zip version of the update.
i think im going to stay with stock recovery.
so i just rooted and installed CWM. if i reflash stock recovery via odin, will the phone stay rooted?
This is a public service announcement to save people headaches. RTFM. You cannot ever now, or in the past, take an OTA with a custom recovery. You must always have a stock recovery and system to do so. Period. If you do install a custom recovery, freeze the update center with Titanium, Rom Toolbox, or the like, so that you will remember you have a custom recovery and not accidentally take an update.
I hope this helps someone out there
So what is the simplest way to update to the OTA firmware with a phone that is rooted with twrp, and a custom ROM? Is there a way to disable twrp without having to un-root? That way it might be possible to update to the OTA firmware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Grizzie said:
So what is the simplest way to update to the OTA firmware with a phone that is rooted with twrp, and a custom ROM? Is there a way to disable twrp without having to un-root? That way it might be possible to update to the OTA firmware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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.this is referring to stock software updates, unless it's updates of the rom, which you won't even receive if you're on a custom rom...to update a custom rom, you just download the updated version, or the OTA if the rom is so capable, and flash it in twrp like the first version you downloaded
Grizzie said:
So what is the simplest way to update to the OTA firmware with a phone that is rooted with twrp, and a custom ROM? Is there a way to disable twrp without having to un-root? That way it might be possible to update to the OTA firmware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Wait for a flashable zip for TWRP. You can revert to stock to take an OTA. Being rooted is not a problem per se, it's the custom recovery and having non stock roms. In theory you could flash the stock recovery and bootloader and then take an OTA. However, not having stock system/apps could likely create havoc
In case you do happen to try and install it, here's a fix for your bootloops: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60117595