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Guys, i am thinking on getting this phone to replace my nexus 5 but i can see there are not lots of options for custom kernels.
Do we have the source code for the kernel and drivers? I ask this because i had a galaxy s3 once and we never got access to the samsung source codes, and because of that we never got a good hardware acceleration and stuff.
I guess my real question is, do we have good kernels and custom roms for this phone? or are we limited because of lacking source code?
Thanks
You have two kernels at the moment.
Rins for Kitkat and ChuppaChops for Lollipop.
For AOSP roms there is no kernel.
And yes, there is good roms available.
DelBoy said:
You have two kernels at the moment.
Rins for Kitkat and ChuppaChops for Lollipop.
For AOSP roms there is no kernel.
And yes, there is good roms available.
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Do you know about kernel sources? Only two kernels is way less than we have for the Nexus 5 for instance.
Looks like there may be some kind of limitation there...
luizffgarcia said:
Do you know about kernel sources? Only two kernels is way less than we have for the Nexus 5 for instance.
Looks like there may be some kind of limitation there...
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You can find sources here: https://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=ALL&search=d855
You can not compare Nexus 5 with G3. Nexus is one year here while G3 was completely locked until a month ago.
Ah! That is why then!
Do you think its safe to say that now the devs have no limitations for the G3?
I would say yes.
Right now is a pause because we have Lollipop available and devs are moving to Lollipop so it will take some time to get newest ROMs for it.
But there is already great ROMs.
luizffgarcia said:
Guys, i am thinking on getting this phone to replace my nexus 5 but i can see there are not lots of options for custom kernels.
Do we have the source code for the kernel and drivers? I ask this because i had a galaxy s3 once and we never got access to the samsung source codes, and because of that we never got a good hardware acceleration and stuff.
I guess my real question is, do we have good kernels and custom roms for this phone? or are we limited because of lacking source code?
Thanks
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You will start to see more custom kernels as the devs move more towards Lollipop. We are in an odd transitional phase of shifting focus from KitKat to Lollipop, so a lot of work is being done to get this new OS running well. We should see more custom kernels as development continues, but you may not notice as many KitKat kernels as you wanted to see. Hopefully you stick with the G3 and we're glad to have you here in our community!
Coming from the nexus family i thought at least that the best selling devices such as G3 and samsung have a great developer community...but in my surprice i was found with the tinies of all...comparing the two best kernels from my old nexus 5, faux123 and francos with 350.000++ commits to @Tectas and @Skin1980 70+ commits i cant help myself that i have to ask...why is this??G3 is imo the best non nexus device and lacks such a serious lack of development...don't get me wrong we have plenty or at least the most proper aosp roms but we lack extremely on the kernel development...i see some devs are making aosp kernels which is great but why only those??i mean aosp is great but it lacks all the great features we all buy the G3 for....thats the reason i give my great nexus to buy a G3 for the better camera for the IR FM radio and stuff...
Please don't start the all time classic flame make your own if i had the knowlage i could...i also try to take an existing kernel and cherry pick some of faux nexus 5 commits but i wasn't able to troubleshot any of the confilcts...im just asking though...
Thanks for your time and sorry about my english!!
pikachukaki said:
Coming from the nexus family i thought at least that the best selling devices such as G3 and samsung have a great developer community...but in my surprice i was found with the tinies of all...comparing the two best kernels from my old nexus 5, faux123 and francos with 350.000++ commits to @Tectas and @Skin1980 70+ commits i cant help myself that i have to ask...why is this??G3 is imo the best non nexus device and lacks such a serious lack of development...don't get me wrong we have plenty or at least the most proper aosp roms but we lack extremely on the kernel development...i see some devs are making aosp kernels which is great but why only those??i mean aosp is great but it lacks all the great features we all buy the G3 for....thats the reason i give my great nexus to buy a G3 for the better camera for the IR FM radio and stuff...
Please don't start the all time classic flame make your own if i had the knowlage i could...i also try to take an existing kernel and cherry pick some of faux nexus 5 commits but i wasn't able to troubleshot any of the confilcts...im just asking though...
Thanks for your time and sorry about my english!!
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Main reason: We don't have source code.
International has it for a bit now. US dropped couple days ago and Canadian variant should get it this month (hopefully).
That being said, you can probably expect more development to come as source code becomes available.
BWolf56 said:
Main reason: We don't have source code.
International has it for a bit now. US dropped couple days ago and Canadian variant should get it this month (hopefully).
That being said, you can probably expect more development to come as source code becomes available.
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Yeah but then there will be kernels for ATT version or verison...i was talking about D855 that im using that i think its old but there is the source code for 20A lollipop available...also there are alot of tweaks patches and stuff the devs can get from CAF or like faux did he take patches from 3.10 kernel and backpatch the 3.04 nexus 5 kernel...
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Yeah but then there will be kernels for ATT version or verison...i was talking about D855 that im using that i think its old but there is the source code for 20A lollipop available...also there are alot of tweaks patches and stuff the devs can get from CAF or like faux did he take patches from 3.10 kernel and backpatch the 3.04 nexus 5 kernel...
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It's not like the G3 devs aren't trying. Keep in mind that the Nexus line is fully development friendly, therefore, brings in a lot more devs. And to put it boldly, LG isn't. We have locked bootloaders (Bump workaround) and takes a while before we get the source code.
2nd thing, it's newer than the N5. Lots of devs got the N5 when it came out due to the dev friendly environment and most of them won't change to a G3 a year later. While we don't have insane amount of development, we have some of the great ones and more are coming as we get the source code.
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It's not like the G3 devs aren't trying. Keep in mind that the Nexus line is fully development friendly, therefore, brings in a lot more devs. And to put it boldly, LG isn't. We have locked bootloaders (Bump workaround) and takes a while before we get the source code.
2nd thing, it's newer than the N5. Lots of devs got the N5 when it came out due to the dev friendly environment and most of them won't change to a G3 a year later. While we don't have insane amount of development, we have some of the great ones and more are coming as we get the source code.
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Lets hope they did cause its a shame to see this great phone lacks so much from development!!!
How many of you are running stock? Would you like a custom kernel with optimizations, governors, schedulers and overclocking/undervolting? Would anyone use it if I released one? If so, what governors and schedulers would you like to see?
Thanks!
Personally, I love running stock. I would definitely like to see a kernel that focuses on battery saving.
Please release the kernel. This phone needs some overclock
I'm going to wait until Nougat source is released to build a stock kernel since I was accepted into the Beta.
A custom kernel for Nougat would push me even closer to the already close edge that is my wallet.
This phone seriously looks attractive for the ~$160 asking price on Newegg/Amazon. Coming from a Nexus 5/Spare GS4, I'm used to really poor battery life and average performance.
I'm currently eyeing the Moto G4 and the Robin. The Robin is much more powerful, but doesn't have a replaceable battery and has a much smaller battery (technically the G4's battery isn't replaceable but it can be done fairly easily). There's also this business with Razer, which isn't too big of an issue as I normally stick with custom ROMs (and stock is getting quite a few updates in the future).
Both are in the high ~$160-200 range. Any input? If the Robin's battery is somehow replaceable that would be amazing, and I'd like an OEM supplier.
negusp said:
A custom kernel for Nougat would push me even closer to the already close edge that is my wallet.
This phone seriously looks attractive for the ~$160 asking price on Newegg/Amazon. Coming from a Nexus 5/Spare GS4, I'm used to really poor battery life and average performance.
I'm currently eyeing the Moto G4 and the Robin. The Robin is much more powerful, but doesn't have a replaceable battery and has a much smaller battery (technically the G4's battery isn't replaceable but it can be done fairly easily). There's also this business with Razer, which isn't too big of an issue as I normally stick with custom ROMs (and stock is getting quite a few updates in the future).
Both are in the high ~$160-200 range. Any input? If the Robin's battery is somehow replaceable that would be amazing, and I'd like an OEM supplier.
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It would also be amazing to see some voltage control to control the beast of an 808.
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested ? and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
nexbit robin has volte support any one test ??????
variravitejareddy said:
nexbit robin has volte support any one test ??????
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I know for T-Mobile US yes but idk for where you are at.
Saythis said:
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
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If you need a tester, I would love to help.
Saythis said:
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested ? and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
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Any news on the electron kernel?
Saythis said:
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested ? and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
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Updates?
xBane_ said:
Updates?
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Seems to be dead
Nope not dead. You can get weekly builds from here https://github.com/frap129/ether-weeklies
sykomaniac said:
Nope not dead. You can get weekly builds from here https://github.com/frap129/ether-weeklies
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Is the kernel only compatible with Omni?
crian said:
Is the kernel only compatible with Omni?
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The latest weekly build doesn't boot with Omni 7.1.2, so I'm not sure.
I believe the kernel is meant for Nextbit OS 7.0, not for custom roms. Not sure though.
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bmccoy11 said:
The latest weekly build doesn't boot with Omni 7.1.2, so I'm not sure.
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So dirty flashing back to the latest Omni 7.1.1 build and then flashing the kernel should allow get the phone to boot?
Working on trying to get it to boot don't worry guys
sykomaniac said:
Working on trying to get it to boot don't worry guys
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I tried going back to the latest 7.1.1 build and couldn't get it to boot, so I gave up. Can you give updates in the future?
As the title states. Now that we have root and an unlocked bootloader do you think lineage is will make its way to this device?
Not a fan of lineage code.
We need a aosp rom like Purefusion.
We need Kernel source from Motorola first. They are dragging their feet like always. Without kernel source, we can't get a 100% working TWRP for custom roms to flash
Agreed. We need them to drop source code like they said they would.
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Looks like I may be getting this phone instead of the Note 8. Come on Motorola......release that source code.
They aren't going to acknowledge you here. Follow this link and sign up to let them know how you feel.
https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/issues/124#issuecomment-331552066
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https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/tree/nougat-7.1.1-release-nash
Uzephi said:
We need Kernel source from Motorola first. They are dragging their feet like always. Without kernel source, we can't get a 100% working TWRP for custom roms to flash
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Is there a way to get the kernel ourselfs??
WeUseLord- said:
Is there a way to get the kernel ourselfs??
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Https://GitHub.com/Uzephi/Nash
Kernel source was given by Motorola. There is my git with the edits for a regular machine running GCC 4.9 to build a kernel that boots and works.
How much less is less?
If you build it they will come.... ("Field of Dreams" movie line) Seriously, though, I do wonder if giving up stability and features is worth it for minimal gains in performance/benchmarks? Motorola's take on Android is already bare-bones compared to Samsung! With Lineage, it's slightly easier to theme, true, but Substratum suffices for many individuals on stock. I haven't tried Substratum yet, because I don't like dark themes. Don't get me wrong, I want Lineage to succeed! The more open-source options the better! But, is it worth it for the principle, or modest increase in speed (maybe)? Bugless and not losing any features, I would run Lineage; so, we'll see, because it will come in due time.
jhofseth said:
If you build it they will come.... ("Field of Dreams" movie line) Seriously, though, I do wonder if giving up stability and features is worth it for minimal gains in performance/benchmarks? Motorola's take on Android is already bare-bones compared to Samsung! With Lineage, it's slightly easier to theme, true, but Substratum suffices for many individuals on stock. I haven't tried Substratum yet, because I don't like dark themes. Don't get me wrong, I want Lineage to succeed! The more open-source options the better! But, is it worth it for the principle, or modest increase in speed (maybe)? Bugless and not losing any features, I would run Lineage; so, we'll see, because it will come in due time.
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Totally correct. Our device is so close to stock it's ridiculous. We pretty much have a pixel phone with slower updates and mods. Which I'll take over the boringness of a pixel. Yes substratum would be pretty cool but I know things are coming we have a kernel being updated to the latest kernel version available. We're testing twrp right now and have it 95% working and now we have twrp and magisk and an updated kernel all going at once things are coming along slowly but I feel they will pick up soon
Little teaser
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Little teaser
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That looks like the stock tmo version [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].
There should be almost no diference at all.
But i want some LineageOS [emoji41]
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I'm confused, the kernel sources still haven't been released?
LGtMgG2t said:
I'm confused, the kernel sources still haven't been released?
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Yes they where released.
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LGtMgG2t said:
I'm confused, the kernel sources still haven't been released?
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Yes, they were released. Kernel builds fine. For AOSP stuff we need vendor files. We are piecing things together. All builds have failed so we haven't even had a chance to see if it boots.
Why hasn't a kernel been fully released? (Besides the upstreamed one in the custom ROM section) because of encryption not working right in TWRP, you'd lose root when flashing as TWRP can't put the ramdisk back correctly hence no root.
Somebody should start Lineage. I would do it if I had enough experience but I don't yet. Huge tasks like LTE not working, etc., can arise depending upon the particular phone....
The attached screenshot illustrates the dynamics quite well. I was initially mildly surprised by the Lineage developer's response to someone, "When you start paying me." But, for some developers who devote lots of their time to Lineage, I suppose the questions can become tiresome. Every developer is different, of course, and it is a global scale endeavor.
Looking to get this device but noticed not much development right now, is there a reason for this or am I just being impatient? ?
The developers are waiting for the oreo kernel source. Also, why would you want 3000 custom roms based on 3000 sources with 3000 different bugs when you can have 2 ROMs with no bugs?
Robert- said:
The developers are waiting for the oreo kernel source. Also, why would you want 3000 custom roms based on 3000 sources with 3000 different bugs when you can have 2 ROMs with no bugs?
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I second this. I used to have Redmi 3s, the forum is filled with ROMs that hardly got an update after it was released. I'm not saying the development is bad, but development for the sake of it isn't gonna do anything good. We'll get other ROMs after they release kernel sources until then, Resurrection Remix looks really good if you can't deal with minimal nature of LOS. Both work, bugs are few and far.
Device pretty much just came out for Global users and bring up of roms takes time