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Quick Charge 3.0 & "Charging rapidly"

So I've now purchased a wall charger and a car charger that both have QC 3.0 and claim to support the HTC 10, but neither of them show the "Charging rapidly" when charging my device. Only when I use the original charger or an external battery with QC 3.0 does it display that. Is it possible that it's still charging using QC 3.0 while charging if it doesn't display the "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen? I really just want a car charger and additional wall charger with multiple ports that will rapidly charge my HTC 10. I'm really sick of buying accessories that do not when they say they support the HTC 10.
These are the accessories I've tried and none of them will display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
This battery does display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Any ideas?

THIS is a good multi port charger I have one and it quick charges and displays on the phone it is. I use this cable on it.
For a car charger I use THIS and it quick charges no problem with THIS cable

I am wondering the same thing... what does a cable or charger need to provide fast charging... I wonder if it's the cables because I got one from amazon and use it with the htc charger that came with the phone and it does not "quick charge," it only does it with the cable it came with. I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Fusion4K-USB-...d=1464288411&sr=8-24&keywords=fusion+4k+cable

PaoloMix09 said:
I am wondering the same thing... what does a cable or charger need to provide fast charging... I wonder if it's the cables because I got one from amazon and use it with the htc charger that came with the phone and it does not "quick charge," it only does it with the cable it came with. I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Fusion4K-USB-...d=1464288411&sr=8-24&keywords=fusion+4k+cable
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I just made sure they were the latest cables, the ones you linked to are USB 2.0 and 480mbps. while I made sure to get USB 3.1 to USB 3.0 cables and have 5gbps. I know the speeds really don't have much to do with charging say, but I think the generation of cable has a lot to do with it

afuller42 said:
I just made sure they were the latest cables, the ones you linked to are USB 2.0 and 480mbps. while I made sure to get USB 3.1 to USB 3.0 cables and have 5gbps. I know the speeds really don't have much to do with charging say, but I think the generation of cable has a lot to do with it
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Hmmm.... good point, if someone could confirm this maybe? Does make much more sense, I guess I should've read better. I will just get one of your cables because I just recently bought a QC 3.0 car charger and there's no point in it if it ain't fast charging.

So the Aukey multi-port charger came with a USB-C cable and it claims to support the HTC 10, so it's infuriating that it doesn't work.

I use this wall charger and it shows "charging rapidly" on the screen. I have an older cable with the micro usb connection, so I use this adapter to make the connection to the phone. Combined, they work like a charm.

m_kranzler11 said:
So I've now purchased a wall charger and a car charger that both have QC 3.0 and claim to support the HTC 10, but neither of them show the "Charging rapidly" when charging my device. Only when I use the original charger or an external battery with QC 3.0 does it display that. Is it possible that it's still charging using QC 3.0 while charging if it doesn't display the "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen? I really just want a car charger and additional wall charger with multiple ports that will rapidly charge my HTC 10. I'm really sick of buying accessories that do not when they say they support the HTC 10.
These are the accessories I've tried and none of them will display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
This battery does display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Any ideas?
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Are you using a USB-C to USB-C cable? those accessories only have quick charging on the USB-C port. If you buy new ones make sure to check what ports support the QC 3.0. Sometimes the only have one port that has the QC and the rest are normal 2 amp ports.

I've just ordered the Aukey 6 port USB Quick Charge 3.0 Wall Charging Station from Amazon UK (link below), so I'll test it once it comes in and post here with the results. One thing I noticed is that the Aukey hub only supports QC3.0 on the USB-C plugs, not the USB2 ports. I'll be using this to charge my HTC 10 and my Pixel C using the USB-C ports and USB-C cables for both devices so I can see if both QC3.0 AND USB-C Rapid Charging works at the same time. The remaining USB2 ports I'll use to plug my Qi charging pads into and my smartwatch charger. Looking forward to not having so many plugs lying around.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charger-Te...EFN8/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A2UZUMHNJKCOJU
I'll let you all know once it all comes.

Okay, so I just got delivery for all my bits in my previous post. I've made sure both my HTC 10 and my Google Pixel C ran down the battery to 20% on each and plugged them both into the USB-C ports on the Aukey charging station using USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables, both 3 foot long. I'm not using any of the cables that came with my tablet or phone or the USB-C 2.0 cable that comes with the Aukey charging station, I am using Belkin USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables.
Using the Belkin USB-C 3.1 cables both my HTC 10 and Pixel C show Charging Rapidly after around 45 seconds on the lock screen with a time remaining counter.
Using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable that came with the Aukey charging station I do not get Charging Rapidly at all on my HTC 10, I only get "Charging" and a percentage.
However, I do get Charging Rapidly with time remaining counter on my Pixel C when using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable.
Based purely on my own testing, I would make sure you use high quality cables, preferably the 3.1 gen cables and then nothing will be slow. I have no idea why the USB-C 2.0 cable doesn't like to Quick Charge my HTC 10, and I don't have any other gen 2.0 USB-C cables to try out, so sorry about that.
I hope that helps some of you out.

svmpatel said:
Okay, so I just got delivery for all my bits in my previous post. I've made sure both my HTC 10 and my Google Pixel C ran down the battery to 20% on each and plugged them both into the USB-C ports on the Aukey charging station using USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables, both 3 foot long. I'm not using any of the cables that came with my tablet or phone or the USB-C 2.0 cable that comes with the Aukey charging station, I am using Belkin USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables.
Using the Belkin USB-C 3.1 cables both my HTC 10 and Pixel C show Charging Rapidly after around 45 seconds on the lock screen with a time remaining counter.
Using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable that came with the Aukey charging station I do not get Charging Rapidly at all on my HTC 10, I only get "Charging" and a percentage.
However, I do get Charging Rapidly with time remaining counter on my Pixel C when using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable.
Based purely on my own testing, I would make sure you use high quality cables, preferably the 3.1 gen cables and then nothing will be slow. I have no idea why the USB-C 2.0 cable doesn't like to Quick Charge my HTC 10, and I don't have any other gen 2.0 USB-C cables to try out, so sorry about that.
I hope that helps some of you out.
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Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!

fidanhGPE said:
Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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I'll check tonight and let you know later, but I'm pretty sure that the charger that comes the HTC 10 in the box is NOT a Quick Charge 3.0 Rapid Charger... Which would explain why you are not seeing "Charging Rapidly" with the original charger and USB cable. I may be wrong, but I will let you know either way in this thread as it is honestly something that I did not look at when I got my phone. Mine is a UK model bought in-store in the UK so what you get in the box may vary depending on the region you purchased from.
Cheers

fidanhGPE said:
Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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The supplied HTC charger and cable are QC 3.0 compatible. They show "Charging rapidly" when I connect my phone.

The iClever 24w QC 3.0 charger works with the orange-e 3.1 usb c. It displays "chargin rapidly". This is probably unrelated, but the charger doesn't show it as chargin rapidly, but the phone does.

svmpatel said:
I'll check tonight and let you know later, but I'm pretty sure that the charger that comes the HTC 10 in the box is NOT a Quick Charge 3.0 Rapid Charger... Which would explain why you are not seeing "Charging Rapidly" with the original charger and USB cable. I may be wrong, but I will let you know either way in this thread as it is honestly something that I did not look at when I got my phone. Mine is a UK model bought in-store in the UK so what you get in the box may vary depending on the region you purchased from.
Cheers
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The supplied charger is definitely a quick charge 3.0 charger, it even says it on the power brick. It doesn't matter what region you are in, all of them come with a quick charge 3.0 charger.
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Lancerz said:
The supplied charger is definitely a quick charge 3.0 charger, it even says it on the power brick. It doesn't matter what region you are in, all of them come with a quick charge 3.0 charger.
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Yup, you are correct. Just got home and plugged my charger in and it too shows "Charging Rapidly". COol, now I have a backup in case my Aukey stops working for whatever reason.
@fidanhGPE I'm not sure why yours doesn't show as Charging Rapidly when using your original charger, possibly something wrong with your handset maybe? Sorry I can't be of more help to you as all mine works fine with the original HTC supplied charger and HTC USB-A to USB-C charging cable, and also with the Aukey charging station and a USB-C to USB-C Gen 3.1 cable.
Cheers

Having a Nexus 6P, I was under the impression "rapid charging" only worked with a type-c to type-c charger..?

fidanhGPE said:
Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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It might be the converter because you should get "Charging rapidly" when using the charger and cable that came with the phone (that is still weird though), and yes they are Quick Charge 3.0 compatible like the other person mentioned above.

PaoloMix09 said:
It might be the converter because you should get "Charging rapidly" when using the charger and cable that came with the phone (that is still weird though), and yes they are Quick Charge 3.0 compatible like the other person mentioned above.
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I checked it, it QC 3.0 and it is charging rapidly, though I get it only on the power/battery settings only, no notification when I plug it in.
On another note, do you know if I can use old (normal) car chargers on HTC 10? Will it charge the phone, although I am not expecting a quick charge there? Will it harm the phone?

fidanhGPE said:
I checked it, it QC 3.0 and it is charging rapidly, though I get it only on the power/battery settings only, no notification when I plug it in.
On another note, do you know if I can use old (normal) car chargers on HTC 10? Will it charge the phone, although I am not expecting a quick charge there? Will it harm the phone?
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Nah man just make sure you have a type a to type C usb cable that has that 56ohm resistor crap to make sure your phone will be fine. Phone will charge just fine. I actually just got a QC 3.0 car charger as well and it doesn't charge THAT much faster than an old car charger I had.

Note7 Supports 25W USB-C Fast Charging - 50% in 30 minutes

The wall charger that comes with the Note7 is different than Samsung's previous adaptive chargers.
Here's mine from my Note5 which is the same used with the S7-series
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Here's the one from the Note7
And this is from Samsung's website. The terminology under fast charging is a bit muddled. I take it to mean that the charging tech Samsung's using in the Note7 is proprietary and if you use the charger with other USB-C or legacy Samsung devices it drops down to standard 2A charging like the previous adaptive charger.
Fast Charging
With new 25W USB-C Fast Charge technology, your battery can go from zero to up to 50% in about 30 minutes, so you can spend less time connected to an outlet. The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate.
Rapid Charging
The Samsung Fast Charge Wall Charger plugs into any standard wall outlet via the included AC adapter. This Samsung charger has a standard output of 2 Amp to give your phone power at a much faster rate than your typical 1 Amp or 700mAh charger.
Flexibility
The Samsung Wall Charger also comes with a detachable USB to USB-C cable, which allows you to charge your phone from the USB port on your computer or other USB power source if you aren’t near a wall outlet. You can sync and transfer files with your Galaxy or any other smartphone using the USB-C cable.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mo...--detachable-usb-c-usb-cable--ep-ta300cwegus/​

This has been my confusing question. I assumed they would give it the more QC3 type rapid charge of some sort but wasn't sure. Glad its able to. I never use cabled charge but when I do, its because I need it stat. The more "stat" the better in that example.

This might be a thread hijack (if so, I can make a new thread), but anyone know if I'll get rapid charging if I were to plug the phone into my computer's USB 3.1 Type C port? (desktop PC)
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Devhux said:
This might be a thread hijack (if so, I can make a new thread), but anyone know if I'll get rapid charging if I were to plug the phone into my computer's USB 3.1 Type C port? (desktop PC)
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Unless your computer can pump out 12v2.1a ( hint: it likely can't) then no.
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It took over an hour for my S4 to get to 50% so this makes me happy

toastido said:
Unless your computer can pump out 12v2.1a ( hint: it likely can't) then no.
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Hard to say. I know the computer supports USB Power Delivery 2.0 through that port (using an onboard Intel USB 3.1 controller), but apparently the phone would need to support that as well (and I don't know what profiles of USB Power Delivery the controller supports).
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...pe-C-connector-and-USB-Power-Delivery_id71868

BarryH_GEG said:
The wall charger that comes with the Note7 is different than Samsung's previous adaptive chargers.
Here's mine from my Note5 which is the same used with the S7-series
Here's the one from the Note7
And this is from Samsung's website. The terminology under fast charging is a bit muddled. I take it to mean that the charging tech Samsung's using in the Note7 is proprietary and if you use the charger with other USB-C or legacy Samsung devices it drops down to standard 2A charging like the previous adaptive charger.
Fast Charging
With new 25W USB-C Fast Charge technology, your battery can go from zero to up to 50% in about 30 minutes, so you can spend less time connected to an outlet. The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate.
Rapid Charging
The Samsung Fast Charge Wall Charger plugs into any standard wall outlet via the included AC adapter. This Samsung charger has a standard output of 2 Amp to give your phone power at a much faster rate than your typical 1 Amp or 700mAh charger.
Flexibility
The Samsung Wall Charger also comes with a detachable USB to USB-C cable, which allows you to charge your phone from the USB port on your computer or other USB power source if you aren’t near a wall outlet. You can sync and transfer files with your Galaxy or any other smartphone using the USB-C cable.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mo...--detachable-usb-c-usb-cable--ep-ta300cwegus/​
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Is the Charger in Box QC 3.0 or 2.0 ?

ilordvader said:
Is the Charger in Box QC 3.0 or 2.0 ?
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I'm guessing neither because Samsung didn't use Qualcomm's Quick Charge feature on the S7-series. Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging seems to be proprietary and is used on both Exynos and Snapdragon phones. Hence the terminology in the product description for the adapter that says "The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate." I take that to mean that Samsung's charger and cable aren't USB-C spec compliant and won't work beyond the standard 2A output with other devices including those using USB-C. Once the phone's out I'm sure there will be lots of threads/posts discussing what Samsung's interpretation of USB-C really is.

Wait a minute...25W charging rate, even with a middling 75% transfer efficiency, should charge the battery by 50% in 20 minutes. And at 75% eff (a good charger would be in the 80s), it would make the phone pretty hot, as it would be dissipating 6W in waste heat. That's twice the power of the Snapdragon running full tilt. I'll be interested to see what th real rate is.

The phone is NOT going to charge at 12V/2.1A/25W. Samsung is likely just "future-proofing" chargers for a little while or making them compatible with larger devices that need more power. Nothing new in regards to the Note7's charging capability.

My charger on the US T-mobile variant did not come with an adapter that lists 12V...

cbutters said:
My charger on the US T-mobile variant did not come with an adapter that lists 12V...
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Nor did mine.

I'd like to know if anyone has tested a Samsung 25W charger with the Note 7. The fact that they included a 15W charger speaks to the contrary, but it's currently an unknown.

The Note7 is listed as a supported device if you pull up the 25watt charger on Samsung's website

Devhux said:
This might be a thread hijack (if so, I can make a new thread), but anyone know if I'll get rapid charging if I were to plug the phone into my computer's USB 3.1 Type C port? (desktop PC)
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Well for sure it doesn't support USB PD @ 29 W from the Macbook USB-C charger. Seems to only get 5-10 W out of it, and same from the Macbook itself.

Where did the 12V/2.1A/25.2W charger come from?
Mine came with a 5V/2A and 9V/1.67A charger.
Edit - so I did some research online. That charger was meant for the Galaxy Tab Pro S? Which functions more like a Windows 10 laptop than a tablet.
Are you sure the EP-TA300 is compatible with the Exynos Note 7?

A Chinese Website Chongdiantou has proven that both the Snapdragon 820 and the Exynos 8890 variants of Note 7 support USB Type-C Power Delivery and can handle up to 25W of power input.
I am not allowed to post outside links. You can google "实测：这几款USB PD充电器支持三星Note7快充-充电头网" and see the readings on the power monitor.

cbutters said:
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Nor did mine.
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same here!

cbutters said:
The Note7 is listed as a supported device if you pull up the 25watt charger on Samsung's website
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Hmmm... Dont know if I'd plug my Not 7 into that new Super fast charger as of now. It may charge it much faster but with a 50/50 chance of it exploding every charge is too risky for me.

I have these two. One is much larger then the stock Note 7 charger. Note 7 stock on the left and the fat boy on the right. Both came with USB-C cables.
Is the fat one on the right safe to use with the Note 7?

Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC

Benson Leung said Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC, I wonder what kind of adapter the two phones use. I used a 5v/3a USB C charger and USB C - C cable with my Nexus 6P. Does this adapter and cable work on Google Pixel/Pixel XL?

Will it work? Sure.
Is it the optimal option? No.

Thank you @testinguser. Can't wait to get the phone.

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Will it work? Sure.
Is it the optimal option? No.
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Umm... USB Type C will charge at 3A, no?
Shouldn't it be 5V/3A for the Pixel / Pixel XL also?

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SNH48 said:
Benson Leung said Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC, I wonder what kind of adapter the two phones use. I used a 5v/3a USB C charger and USB C - C cable with my Nexus 6P. Does this adapter and cable work on Google Pixel/Pixel XL?
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Absolutely, USB C is designed to negotiate with the charger how much juice is sent. the pixel works at 5V 3A (15W) and up to 9V 2A (18W), Basically if the plug fits it'll get some sort of charge. There are loads of USB C chargers with PD, the spec goes up to 100W and any charger will provide any device with the maximum it or the device can handle (So a 100W charger will give 18W to the pixel and the Pixels 18W charger will give 18W to a laptop for example)

If you have a true USB-C 5V/3A charger now, it will work fine, but as stated it is not the BEST option. 5V/3A = 15W.
If you buy a USB-PD (Power Delivery) type C charger, it has the capability to charge the Pixel at 9V/2A = 18W, so a 20% faster charge... in a perfect world, instead of 0-50% power in 30 minutes, you'd get 0-50% in 24 minutes. BUT, we don't know how long the phone will charge at 18W. Hopefully to 50%, but it has to cut down current eventually just like all QC chargers, or else it'd damage the battery.
The charger included in the box is USB-PD compliant.

Nitemare3219 said:
If you have a true USB-C 5V/3A charger now, it will work fine, but as stated it is not the BEST option. 5V/3A = 15W.
If you buy a USB-PD (Power Delivery) type C charger, it has the capability to charge the Pixel at 9V/2A = 18W, so a 20% faster charge... in a perfect world, instead of 0-50% power in 30 minutes, you'd get 0-50% in 24 minutes. BUT, we don't know how long the phone will charge at 18W. Hopefully to 50%, but it has to cut down current eventually just like all QC chargers, or else it'd damage the battery.
The charger included in the box is USB-PD compliant.
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Great info. Now I wonder if the Tronsmart W2PTE will charge at 9V/2A...
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)
USB A port outpout:5V/2.4A(MAX)
Technically it has the ability to, but I wonder if it can.

bigblueshock said:
Great info. Now I wonder if the Tronsmart W2PTE will charge at 9V/2A...
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)
USB A port outpout:5V/2.4A(MAX)
Technically it has the ability to, but I wonder if it can.
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My guess is no because that is relying on a QuickCharge handshake to occur between the device and charger. Pixels will use USB Power Delivery which is an entirely different specification. It'd be great if it does, but I highly doubt it.

It seems even the ones on Amazon that are PD units all are either 15w (5x3) or have the 9x2 spec but don't actually show it as addressable in handshake.
I just want to give someone my money and I am getting upset that I don't have anyone to give it to...

@bigblueshock It seems Tronsmart W2PTE not a 9v/2a PD charger, I saw Choetech has a 29w USB C PD charger
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-CHOETECH-Power-Delivery-MacBook/dp/B01HZ61WWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475906398&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+29W+PD+charger
Specification:
Input: 100V-240V AC 50/60Hz 0.7A
Output: 5V3A/9V2A/14.5V2A
I may try this one

Great Phone, I am thinking to buy it.

uhh, QC3 supports both 5v3a and 9v2a. I use my QC3 charger with my Pixel C and it rapid charges.
The same will most likely be true for the pixel phones

I think it still doesn't work because the difference is in the protocol for handshake, not a limitation in the ranges of current.
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Wouldn't it be nice if the phone could say what it was receiving and how it had negotiated? I've accumulated quite a few mains chargers, power banks and cigarette lighter adapters.
A QC2.0 PSU makes my Pixel XL say charging rapidly, but it doesn't say how rapid. Another mains charger said charging slowly, which was odd (you'd expect that from an unpowered USB hub) and others just say Charging.
How are you supposed to know what's what? The supplied PSU says Charging Rapidly, but clearly it's more rapid.
Even just putting it as an option in the developer menu would be good enough. It would then enable me to check all my various adapters and establish what does what.
Wouldn't it have been nice to just have one standard?!

jonmorris said:
Wouldn't it be nice if the phone could say what it was receiving and how it had negotiated? I've accumulated quite a few mains chargers, power banks and cigarette lighter adapters.
A QC2.0 PSU makes my Pixel XL say charging rapidly, but it doesn't say how rapid. Another mains charger said charging slowly, which was odd (you'd expect that from an unpowered USB hub) and others just say Charging.
How are you supposed to know what's what? The supplied PSU says Charging Rapidly, but clearly it's more rapid.
Even just putting it as an option in the developer menu would be good enough. It would then enable me to check all my various adapters and establish what does what.
Wouldn't it have been nice to just have one standard?!
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There are special USB adapters that you plug between phone and charger that will tell you what it's using and what the voltage and amps are.

I'm seeing unexplainable results, like faster charging from my old Motorola Nexus 6 Turbo Charger than with the included Pixel charger....
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alexjzim said:
uhh, QC3 supports both 5v3a and 9v2a. I use my QC3 charger with my Pixel C and it rapid charges.
The same will most likely be true for the pixel phones
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I can second this. Plugging it in to a QC3.0 type C charger (like the HTC 10 has) displays a "charging rapidly" notifier on the lockscreen.

robstunner said:
I can second this. Plugging it in to a QC3.0 type C charger (like the HTC 10 has) displays a "charging rapidly" notifier on the lockscreen.
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But that doesn't actually MEAN anything. I had a bad car charger that would overheat easily over time. My Nexus 6P would say "charging rapidly" and Ampere would show 100mAh, charge completion time was over 3 hours, etc.
Google designed the phone for USB-PD, nothing else. QC 3.0 does work with this phone. Unless someone uses a USB power meter and posts solid numbers like mentioned in a previous post, people need to stop posting this ****.

Nitemare3219 said:
But that doesn't actually MEAN anything. I had a bad car charger that would overheat easily over time. My Nexus 6P would say "charging rapidly" and Ampere would show 100mAh, charge completion time was over 3 hours, etc.
Google designed the phone for USB-PD, nothing else. QC 3.0 does work with this phone. Unless someone uses a USB power meter and posts solid numbers like mentioned in a previous post, people need to stop posting this ****.
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I'll try it tonight with ampere. I remember seeing 1100mah, which isn't much but I'll report back.
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fast charging pickyness

I've had a nexus 5x before and own a pixel table. Both come with USB C port to charge. So i bought a itian qc3.0 charger at that time. (http://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_389793.html)
Now i changed to the lg g6, but it refused to do the 'fast charging ' when i use that chargers qc3.0 port and even says 'slow charging' when connecting to the usb c output.
Is it the combination that's just flakey or did they put something specific in the original charger that comes with the lg g6?
I'm bit lost on the topic of chargers currently, anyone care to enlighten me on what should could would work?

Lg g6 is picky I think
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I'm using the charger from my Nexus 6 and my G6 says that it's quick charging. Only QC 2.0 on that one though.

Obscure Reference said:
I'm using the charger from my Nexus 6 and my G6 says that it's quick charging. Only QC 2.0 on that one though.
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wtf.. i hate your luckiness :angel:

Apb said:
wtf.. i hate your luckiness :angel:
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Works fine with my wife's charger from her Galaxy Note 4 as well. ? (Pretty sure that's a QC 2.0 charger as well.)

Does LG not provide a qc 3.0 charger with their own phone ??

Mine came with a MCS-H06UR charger.
Rated @ 9.0V 1.8A / 5.0V 1.8A
After a quick Google search I've had no luck ascertaining if this is QC 2.0 or QC 3.0.

From what I can tell, my phone charges as fast if not faster using the 5V/3A charger that came with my 6P.
From what I've read online, the LG G6 also supports USB-PD.
Sent from my LG-H870 using Tapatalk

Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that

lg3FTW said:
Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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Shouldn't really get hot once it's fully charged?

The charger that comes with it is a quick charge 3.0 charger and can completely charge your phone from zero in less than 2 hours easily. You have to use the cord that came with it though, or at least one that is compatible. If you look at the icons, you will see a different one than the usual charging icon. Pulling down the menu shows something about fast-charging when its active.
My experience comes from the Sprint version.

lg3FTW said:
Off topic a bit. Thoughts on overnight wireless charging. I have a great charging cradle that I want to use but don't want phone to crack at night from hours of heat. Sony z2 and z4v had issues with that
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i use one from Tylt each night since im always on-call. havent had a problem once.

None of my QC 3.0 charger fast chagrge my G6. The QC 2.0 chargers do.

I've bought a Choetech wall usb charger, QuickCharge 3.0 with its usb type-c cable, and when I plug it on LG G6, it says that there's fast charging.
https://amzn.com/B019Q5WT6W

I do not believe the LG stock charger is qc qc 3.0 compatible because its fixed mat output at 9v is 1.8a
qc 3.0 defines the max amps at each voltage level from 5v to 9v to 12v
I ended up buying anker qc 3.0 chargers for my car and for ac wall outlet. also bought their nice braided usb c cable. every combination yields a fast charger notification in the drop down and the ampere app confirms this. also watching the real time output is impressive from all these chargers.
the benefit to using a certified qc 3.0 charger is that the phone will tell it exactly what amps to deliver based on charge & temp.
further, the G6 has a heat pipe to help cool the entire phone including the battery, to help prevent a galaxy note scenario.
wireless charging is slow Qi spec and is NOT fast like samsung. however, slow charging over wireless is great for overnight.
I use anker's qi charging puck and it works great except I have to remove my case. same with the samsung fast charger puck. my wife doesn't have to remove the case on her S7 to do regular or fast charging. LG's design is obviously inferior for the Qi to pickup and activate the coil.

Today Amazon delivered also this Anker dual usb car charger (QuickCharge 3.0):
http://amzn.com/B01K9MQ8WW
and when LG G6 is connected it shows that is in fast charging mode.

Those who bought QC 3.0 charger and those who trying different cables with LG G6 charger, Try Cable from Oneplus 3, I get an improved charging of 10-20 minutes less compared to stock LG cable

The issue might be the cable you're using. I've had no trouble fast charging using an old ASUS QC 2.0 charger, or a cheap car QC 3.0 charger. Even when using microUSB cables with USB-C adapter tips, but I'm using decent cables (mostly Monoprice and Anker).

I've confirmed that the charger that came with my G6 is QC3.0 (model MCS-H06UR, UK 3-pin). Using a USB power meter, the voltage will increase from 5V to 9V in small steps. If I use a QC 2.0 charger (stock charger from Note4/S7edge), it will jump from 5V to 9V immediately.

tulving said:
I've bought a Choetech wall usb charger, QuickCharge 3.0 with its usb type-c cable, and when I plug it on LG G6, it says that there's fast charging.
https://amzn.com/B019Q5WT6W
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How much time does it take to charge fully? Did you record time ?

Question Usb pd 3.0 45w

So, to my knowledge the Oneplus 9 Pro supports USB PD 3.0 at 45 watts; however, I can't seem to be able to get it to charge at the speed. I'm using a usb c voltage tester and I'm using a usb c car charger. It only shows 17-18 watts at about 9-10v. I've tested the non oem cable with the oem oneplus charger and I've been able to warp charge with it. I'm getting a more reputable branded usb pd 3.0 wall charger and a usb tester that is usb pd 3.0 compliant to test that out. I'm just wondering if it's a bug or of I just don't have the right combination of charger, cable, and usb tester.

The charger itself is capable of PD 45W, but the device supports only 9V/2A.

This is where I got the information about the 45w fast charging. Maybe this xda review is wrong? I'm okay with the 27w charging but I'm not even getting that 18w is alright, but that's how fast my 5t charged at.
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the phone does support 9v/3a 27w PD charging, but the currently firmware does not support it well, the chinese version has got an update to fix that issue, the same fix for OOS version should be delivered soon.

Chocolateyk said:
the phone does support 9v/3a 27w PD charging, but the currently firmware does not support it well, the chinese version has got an update to fix that issue, the same fix for OOS version should be delivered soon.
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Thanks! I hope this is true: because like OP I have not been able to get 45W PD charging working either. This was the one feature that swayed me to get this phone too! I do have some highly "off brand" aliexpress 65W USB PD PPS chargers, I was wondering if they weren't working right because my Mi 10 Ultra stopped charging at 65W as well, but others reported that feature was killed on that phone. I will be following this thread intently!

CAVO1234 said:
So, to my knowledge the Oneplus 9 Pro supports USB PD 3.0 at 45 watts; however, I can't seem to be able to get it to charge at the speed. I'm using a usb c voltage tester and I'm using a usb c car charger. It only shows 17-18 watts at about 9-10v. I've tested the non oem cable with the oem oneplus charger and I've been able to warp charge with it. I'm getting a more reputable branded usb pd 3.0 wall charger and a usb tester that is usb pd 3.0 compliant to test that out. I'm just wondering if it's a bug or of I just don't have the right combination of charger, cable, and usb tester.
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Perhaps your current USB voltage tester doesn't support PD 3.0? See what happens with the new one.

jonitfcfan said:
Perhaps your current USB voltage tester doesn't support PD 3.0? See what happens with the new one.
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Yeah. That is the plan. New tester gets here tomorrow. I just got a pd 3.0 wall charger in that I can hook up to my killawatt and see what that says. I'll post back if I learn anything.

Well it wasn't the tester. Couldn't get anything to charge past 27w, so I guess that is the limit. Although the Ravpower wall outlet rarely showed 27w. Most of the time it was at 19w or occasionally dropping to 5w. This is the same behavior I noticed on my car charger. I've ordered a 30w off brand warp charge car charger as well as an oppo supervooc 2.0 car charger. The supervooc charger will take 2-4 weeks but should be able to test the 30w charger by Monday. Hopefully I can get a more consistent 30 watt charge rate. And I'll update when I get the supervooc charger. Would be cool to be able to charge at 65w in my car. Good news is my 6ft fastgear usb 3.1 type c right angle cable charges my OP9Pro at 50w. Which is good enough for me and get the convenience of a long right angle cable.

Damn so 45W PD support is a lie? What charger are you using? I'm using off brand USB PD 65W PPS charger. I don't know how fast it's working because Ampere app doesn't work on this phone. CAVO thank's for your support on this issue! It's very helpful. I want my 2x 65W PD chargers to charge this phone as fast as possible....
What tester did you get?

adampa1006 said:
Damn so 45W PD support is a lie? What charger are you using? I'm using off brand USB PD 65W PPS charger. I don't know how fast it's working because Ampere app doesn't work on this phone. CAVO thank's for your support on this issue! It's very helpful. I want my 2x 65W PD chargers to charge this phone as fast as possible....
What tester did you get?
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This is the wall charger I bought. I was using a kill-a-watt to watch the charge rate. I also just got the second ota today so maybe it might work better now; however, I returned the rav power as it didn't charge the phone like I wanted it to. I think 27w might be the limit as 65w pd is 20v x 3.25a, and I'm not quite sure this phone can handle 20 v at 3.25 amp going into it, even with the dual batteries. Oneplus 65w is 10v/6.5a. The closest to that standard on the pd side is 9v/3a.
65w Wall Charger
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086QRGBDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_EYEQCTTZES2M32DX9F6G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
65w car charger used
Amazon.com: MANINAM Super Fast USB C Car Charger for Samsung S21 S20 Ultra Note 20 10 Plus Super Fast Charging 2.0 [73W Turbotive] Pro 55W PPS Charger Adapter for iPhone 12 11 MacBook Laptops (Cable Not Included) : Cell Phones & Accessories
Buy MANINAM Super Fast USB C Car Charger for Samsung S21 S20 Ultra Note 20 10 Plus Super Fast Charging 2.0 [73W Turbotive] Pro 55W PPS Charger Adapter for iPhone 12 11 MacBook Laptops (Cable Not Included): Automobile Chargers - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com
Cable used to get 50w power out of oneplus oem 65w charger
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FXZLHJ9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_TDCF90808AQPD3PQRGSB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Usbc c tester used to test car charger
USB C Tester,KJ-KayJI 2 in 1 Type C USB Tester Color Screen IPS Digital Multimeter(2021),Voltage,Current,Power,Temperature,Capacity Detector,with Clip Cable Support PD2.0/PD3.0,QC2.0/QC3.0,BC1.2: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
USB C Tester,KJ-KayJI 2 in 1 Type C USB Tester Color Screen IPS Digital Multimeter(2021),Voltage,Current,Power,Temperature,Capacity Detector,with Clip Cable Support PD2.0/PD3.0,QC2.0/QC3.0,BC1.2: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
www.amazon.com
65w supervooc charger ordered
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001389927574.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=1582410664&albag=59754279756&trgt=743612850714&crea=en1005001389927574&netw=u&device=m&albpg=743612850714&albpd=en1005001389927574&gclid=CjwKCAjwgZuDBhBTEiwAXNofREuI_ah-lgfvFeHA0hJVJKPnehMzZwgdrn3aGqwoVIKYlbfYjIjlFBoCX3AQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
30w warp car charger ordered
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KYB9YDP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_WNZEF3KS1F2KS4DE0AMX

CAVO1234 said:
This is the wall charger I bought. I was using a kill-a-watt to watch the charge rate. I also just got the second ota today so maybe it might work better now; however, I returned the rav power as it didn't charge the phone like I wanted it to. I think 27w might be the limit as 65w pd is 20v x 3.25a, and I'm not quite sure this phone can handle 20 v at 3.25 amp going into it, even with the dual batteries. Oneplus 65w is 10v/6.5a. The closest to that standard on the pd side is 9v/3a.
65w Wall Charger
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086QRGBDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_EYEQCTTZES2M32DX9F6G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
65w car charger used
Amazon.com: MANINAM Super Fast USB C Car Charger for Samsung S21 S20 Ultra Note 20 10 Plus Super Fast Charging 2.0 [73W Turbotive] Pro 55W PPS Charger Adapter for iPhone 12 11 MacBook Laptops (Cable Not Included) : Cell Phones & Accessories
Buy MANINAM Super Fast USB C Car Charger for Samsung S21 S20 Ultra Note 20 10 Plus Super Fast Charging 2.0 [73W Turbotive] Pro 55W PPS Charger Adapter for iPhone 12 11 MacBook Laptops (Cable Not Included): Automobile Chargers - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com
Cable used to get 50w power out of oneplus oem 65w charger
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FXZLHJ9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_TDCF90808AQPD3PQRGSB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Usbc c tester used to test car charger
USB C Tester,KJ-KayJI 2 in 1 Type C USB Tester Color Screen IPS Digital Multimeter(2021),Voltage,Current,Power,Temperature,Capacity Detector,with Clip Cable Support PD2.0/PD3.0,QC2.0/QC3.0,BC1.2: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
USB C Tester,KJ-KayJI 2 in 1 Type C USB Tester Color Screen IPS Digital Multimeter(2021),Voltage,Current,Power,Temperature,Capacity Detector,with Clip Cable Support PD2.0/PD3.0,QC2.0/QC3.0,BC1.2: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
www.amazon.com
65w supervooc charger ordered
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001389927574.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=1582410664&albag=59754279756&trgt=743612850714&crea=en1005001389927574&netw=u&device=m&albpg=743612850714&albpd=en1005001389927574&gclid=CjwKCAjwgZuDBhBTEiwAXNofREuI_ah-lgfvFeHA0hJVJKPnehMzZwgdrn3aGqwoVIKYlbfYjIjlFBoCX3AQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
30w warp car charger ordered
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KYB9YDP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_WNZEF3KS1F2KS4DE0AMX
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There's only USB PD 9V define in the kernel program, so the phone can't (won't) handle 20V.
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CAVO1234 said:
This is the wall charger I bought. I was using a kill-a-watt to watch the charge rate. I also just got the second ota today so maybe it might work better now; however, I returned the rav power as it didn't charge the phone like I wanted it to. I think 27w might be the limit as 65w pd is 20v x 3.25a, and I'm not quite sure this phone can handle 20 v at 3.25 amp going into it, even with the dual batteries. Oneplus 65w is 10v/6.5a. The closest to that standard on the pd side is 9v/3a.
65w Wall Charger
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086QRGBDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_EYEQCTTZES2M32DX9F6G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
65w car charger used
Amazon.com: MANINAM Super Fast USB C Car Charger for Samsung S21 S20 Ultra Note 20 10 Plus Super Fast Charging 2.0 [73W Turbotive] Pro 55W PPS Charger Adapter for iPhone 12 11 MacBook Laptops (Cable Not Included) : Cell Phones & Accessories
Buy MANINAM Super Fast USB C Car Charger for Samsung S21 S20 Ultra Note 20 10 Plus Super Fast Charging 2.0 [73W Turbotive] Pro 55W PPS Charger Adapter for iPhone 12 11 MacBook Laptops (Cable Not Included): Automobile Chargers - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com
Cable used to get 50w power out of oneplus oem 65w charger
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FXZLHJ9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_TDCF90808AQPD3PQRGSB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Usbc c tester used to test car charger
USB C Tester,KJ-KayJI 2 in 1 Type C USB Tester Color Screen IPS Digital Multimeter(2021),Voltage,Current,Power,Temperature,Capacity Detector,with Clip Cable Support PD2.0/PD3.0,QC2.0/QC3.0,BC1.2: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
USB C Tester,KJ-KayJI 2 in 1 Type C USB Tester Color Screen IPS Digital Multimeter(2021),Voltage,Current,Power,Temperature,Capacity Detector,with Clip Cable Support PD2.0/PD3.0,QC2.0/QC3.0,BC1.2: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement
www.amazon.com
65w supervooc charger ordered
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001389927574.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=1582410664&albag=59754279756&trgt=743612850714&crea=en1005001389927574&netw=u&device=m&albpg=743612850714&albpd=en1005001389927574&gclid=CjwKCAjwgZuDBhBTEiwAXNofREuI_ah-lgfvFeHA0hJVJKPnehMzZwgdrn3aGqwoVIKYlbfYjIjlFBoCX3AQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
30w warp car charger ordered
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KYB9YDP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_WNZEF3KS1F2KS4DE0AMX
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I was lucky enough to get the official 50W Vooc car charger for £8.
Haven't tested it yet with the OnePlus 9 Pro. I'm hoping to get the full 50W as it's basically Warp charger specs.

I think I'm only getting 18W with my USB PD 65W charger. This is very disappointing.

adampa1006 said:
Thanks! I hope this is true: because like OP I have not been able to get 45W PD charging working either. This was the one feature that swayed me to get this phone too! I do have some highly "off brand" aliexpress 65W USB PD PPS chargers, I was wondering if they weren't working right because my Mi 10 Ultra stopped charging at 65W as well, but others reported that feature was killed on that phone. I will be following this thread intently!
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I got my OP9P and I found it only charge at ~18w too, even on the lastest frameware. I'm really disappointed, I think that's the Oneplus, that's the company, which leave the OP7P still got 'not charging' issue (on PD) today.

Just a guess, but are you sure your chargers are PPS? I've noticed a lot say they are but if you read the reviews many people complain they won't fast charge their Samsung, which requires PPS.
I don't have the 9 Pro yet to test but I'd try to get a reputable PPS charger. Also, that Rav 65W charger isn't a PPS charger.