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After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Have you scratched yours?
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Some valid points but some are just nonsense....
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
The finger print sensor has nothing wrong with it. Due to your preferences and what you are used to, you are creating this problem.
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You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
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in a way that when you pay almost 1000 EUR for a device, you expect much more.
and the test period has demonstrated that the device is not up to the expectations.
in other words, the device is overpriced; the price is grossly inflated.
that is evident to most users of previous Note models, even without purchasing it.
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Volume is very low.
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :.
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
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Its screen has the same size and resolution as the Note 4 and Note 5.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
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The speaker works great for things like giving easily-heard directions while driving in a noisy car. I've never tried listening to a phone from another room. I find they're easy to take with me--fit right in my pocket! For music, I use BT headphones.
6: The screen scratches too easily.
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Are you reporting that you've scratched it, or just repeating others' rumors?
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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I agree with the apprentice. This is exactly what I am saying about this thread as half of the things mentions are already known before purchasing or just common sense....it isn't a valid reason to then say the phone is a flop and you will be returning it.
Its fair enough to say that the battery is a let down or that the phone is scratching badly because we don't know this prior to having the handset. But to say that the glass gets fingerprints? I'm sure all glass gets finger prints unless it specifically says oleo-phobic and that its finger print proof then you don't have a case. Also to say the phone is expensive? yes it is we all know that but for some like myself i managed to get a very cheap sim only tariff and bought the phone outright. Over the course of 2 years it works out at around £35 per month which is the average for a decent handset and tariff.
It's just really number 5 - buyers remorse.
Nice burn apprentice.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
Im returning mine due to some pink spots on the right side of the screen but not for a refund but for 1 to 1 exchange
Returning mine because its much slower then my note 5. Installs literally take twice as long. It makes no sense.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
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Oh, yes I do agree Samsung was led astray when all the reviewers were whining about plastic phones and the Hansaplast S5 wasn't the best design they could make. Yet plastic is one of the best materials for a phone. It is light, scratch resistant, doesn't block signals or wireless charging and can be made in all colors and shapes. They got it wrong with the yucky feeling S3/S4/Note 2. After the S4 slipped out of my hand again, I got the Note 3 almost as soon as it was available. The faux leather stitching on it is bad, but the back cover gets the job done. After almost three years of use it has zero scratches and it is very grippy. Same as the N4. It survives my wifes handbag for almost two years now, which is no small feat for a phone. I was waiting for the N5, but if I wanted it, it needed parallel importing. That was too much hassle for a slippery phone with no SD-card, small, non-replaceble battery and glass everywhere.
The N7 is better than the N5, but I'll need to think long and hard if and when I'm going to buy it.
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
djide01 said:
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Hi, Learn, if you listen to the naysayers on any forum you would never leave the house and certainly never make another purchase, not even have a hair cut. The Note 7 is a bloody good mobile. Buy it, experience it, if you don't like it you have 14 days to return it so someone else waiting for it can enjoy it. :highfive:
I have to say this Note 7 forum is getting silly. There are dedicated haters here who just post in nearly every thread criticising something they don't even own. Its turning to the point of hysteria on some threads. :silly:
Buy and enjoy.
Ryland
AllGamer said:
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
May seem strange to most of you guys but the lack of IR blaster kills it for me. I use it on my note 3 all day everyday. Air-conditioning at work and at home. My TV and set top box. My fan. It's such a small piece of tech with so much use. Kind of annoys me that they took it away.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
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I bought into the hype after watching the live unveil in New York.
I was actually checking out the Nexus 6p, as I wanted a new phone with Root.
in the past Samsung phones used to be a safe bet to get root, but seems like since the S7 the game has changed.
Fast charging is as you said not fast enough, 1 hour charge to only get 60% to 70% is not much improvement over the Note 3 / Note 4 charging, somehow the way I use my phones they can drain the battery faster than it can recharge itself.
So battery packs has always been my friend, as I keep several charged battery packs ready to swap in/out.
Reason why I skipped Note 5, due the lack of battery swap. I decided to give Note 7 a try thinking it should have improved, but nope it's just exactly as I guestimated it would perform, and the educated guess was spot on.
I was not really surprised by the charge speed lack of performance, just the Advertisements, and the Unveil event made it such a huge deal that is was like WOW... but in reality it does not really deliver as advertised.
The charge speed performance is no different than previous generation, phone batteries like Note 3 and Note 4, using a normal 2A charger and a battery charger, my batteries pack are full in about 2 hours aprox same time it takes for the Note 7 using the "fast charge" to reach 100%
The so called fast charge to 50% in 30 min is bogus, I was clocking it, it was more like 45min to an Hour depending if the phone was Off or On... which is pretty much the same rate why it takes aprox 2 hours for 100% charge.
The old Notes 3/4, charges at about the same rate as Note 7, so they are just advertising the same old as new, I don't really see any real improvement over previous model.
With the removal of the option to swap battery packs since Note 5, it makes it even less appealing knowing you'll be stuck without battery until you find a plug.
In Note 3 and Note 4, you simply pop out the drained battery and pop in the 100% charged battery, downtime 60 sec at most to open back cover swap the battery and replace the back cover.
The Note 5 and Note 7 downtime ranges until you find a plug, or you carry one of those external battery top up dongles, not very appealing. I know those are very common with Apple users, and I don't like carrying those bulky USB dongles with me.
Battery life If I'm being conservative and turn off GPS, turn off Bluetooth, and turn off WiFi, I can get aprox 3 hours with Note 7, which is again about the same time I get with previous Note 3 and Note 4.
So the claim for an improved battery life is also bogus advertisement.
I still have about 7 days to keep it, if nothing changes by then, it's going back to the store.
The only nice feature I like on the Note 7 is the Iris scanner, and the 4x MIMO, actually that's the only reason the Note 7 picked my interest, I wanted to see if the 4x MIMO would improve signal quality, in poor reception areas, and it did.
so, of all the hyped propagandas during the live unveil and Ads, only the Iris scanner and 4x mimo actually performs as advertised, everything else, not so much, like the "free" game pack that is not available to people in North America >.< ...like really, advertised live during a new york event, and then they said, or sorry that's not for you.
Hello awesome XDA community?
I was hoping to find info on upgrading this model to Oreo and information on getting root access also?
Apologies if this is the wrong area to post this in.
Thank you ...
+1 on that!
The only thing keeping me from buying this phone is first the price and second the fact that it will never get an update. Battery life looks really good.
Forum for AGM X1, X2 and other devices.
1candydick said:
Hello awesome....Thank you ...
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We don't have a large enough user base to merit our own forum yet. I think there are enough of us to begin development on the AGM devices. In the coming months I will petition XDA to give us our own forum....but I have to have something developed to justify that.
Right now, I am working on getting TWRP to install and porting Android N to the X1.
Next, I will then work on getting TWRP to run on the X2 and then try to port oreo.
I am using my X2 as my daily driver so I can't mess it up yet.
Since the X2 is the only phone with a nose, developing out software for the VOC sensor is also something I am exploring.
Wow. Are u liking the phone? Can u tell what sucks and what's great?
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Wow. Are u liking the phone? Can u tell what sucks and what's great?
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Yes, I am liking this phone. On the whole, I am very happy with it
What's great: I finally have a phone with a battery that does not run out. I average 30 to 40 percent battery drain in my daily use. Whereas for my old phone...I'd have to charge it after 8 hours of regular use. It's built like a brick - really solid construction. Supposedly waterproof but I have not tested that. 6G of memory and 128 G of storage. I can load a ton of apps on there and open a lot of them. 2 sims. It works on T-mobile in the US but it works on damn near every band in the world so I can use it when I travel. Reception is decent. Bluetooth behaves with all my peripherals. You can record 4k video using the Opencamera app. It has an FM radio you can use with headphones. The VOC sensor works.
What sucks: They made the back out of glass. I am afraid that if I drop it it will crack. So I covered mine with heavy sign vinyl to protect it. Audio volume is a bit low through the audio jack. The dual lense camera is kind of gimicky and the default app is not that great. It gives the background a kind of dreamy look...but that feature in the default camera app is a little hard to use.
root
I just ordered my AGM X2 6GB/128GB, looking forward.
Is there already know how to root?
I'm thinking of buying this phone for use in Canada on the Telus network and for world travel/work. It will be replacing my HTC one M9. I need something water prof that is reliable and will connect most places world wide. Also need a good camera and a good GPS and i love the floating cover. Dose anyone know if the model from chinavision includes the floating cover? Also are there any issues with the phone to consider before buying?
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How secure is the floating case? is it likely to fall off if dropped from a boat?
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Yes, I am liking this phone. On the whole, I am very happy with it
What's great: I finally have a phone with a battery that does not run out. I average 30 to 40 percent battery drain in my daily use. Whereas for my old phone...I'd have to charge it after 8 hours of regular use. It's built like a brick - really solid construction. Supposedly waterproof but I have not tested that. 6G of memory and 128 G of storage. I can load a ton of apps on there and open a lot of them. 2 sims. It works on T-mobile in the US but it works on damn near every band in the world so I can use it when I travel. Reception is decent. Bluetooth behaves with all my peripherals. You can record 4k video using the Opencamera app. It has an FM radio you can use with headphones. The VOC sensor works.
What sucks: They made the back out of glass. I am afraid that if I drop it it will crack. So I covered mine with heavy sign vinyl to protect it. Audio volume is a bit low through the audio jack. The dual lense camera is kind of gimicky and the default app is not that great. It gives the background a kind of dreamy look...but that feature in the default camera app is a little hard to use.
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Thanks a lot. I so wanted to get this phone but I need an above average to pretty good camera and good GPS for work. I may still get it if the price goes down a little.
Getting this phone on Monday. I played around with the 64 GB version and I really like it.
Surprised there is not more interest in it. It has to be one of the best (if not the best) rugged phones out there.
And having some extra sensors and a big battery is really a plus in the field.
reading up on installing TWRP and Magisk on this phone, but not having much luck so far.
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What sucks: They made the back out of glass. I am afraid that if I drop it it will crack. So I covered mine with heavy sign vinyl to protect it. A
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They have MIL-STD-810G , so not sure why this would crack? Wouldn't that mean that certification would be worthless?
Just to be sure, what kind of heavy sign vinyl did you protect it with?
I was going for this phone to prevent to get additional protection, but now you have me worried.
Just ordered mine from Tomtop.com hoping to have it by Christmas.
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They have MIL-STD-810G , so not sure why this would crack? Wouldn't that mean that certification would be worthless?
Just to be sure, what kind of heavy sign vinyl did you protect it with?
I was going for this phone to prevent to get additional protection, but now you have me worried.
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I have read of one or two back glass screens cracking, I've also read that as per AGM the phone is still waterproof and dust proof with the back panel cracked. I think the mil spec is still good for the operation and gust of the phone just not the ascetic rear panel glass. I will be putting a layer of clear vinyl tape on my rear panel to help prevent a crack
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I have read of one or two back glass screens cracking, I've also read that as per AGM the phone is still waterproof and dust proof with the back panel cracked. I think the mil spec is still good for the operation and gust of the phone just not the ascetic rear panel glass. I will be putting a layer of clear vinyl tape on my rear panel to help prevent a crack
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where did you read that? I have read only positive reviews so far, so I have missed those with the cracked glass.
will look into securing the back cover as well then if this is really a weak spot. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Getting this phone on Monday. I played around with the 64 GB version and I really like it.
Surprised there is not more interest in it. It has to be one of the best (if not the best) rugged phones out there.
And having some extra sensors and a big battery is really a plus in the field.
reading up on installing TWRP and Magisk on this phone, but not having much luck so far.
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They have MIL-STD-810G , so not sure why this would crack? Wouldn't that mean that certification would be worthless?
Just to be sure, what kind of heavy sign vinyl did you protect it with?
I was going for this phone to prevent to get additional protection, but now you have me worried.
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I read it on the AGM fourm on facebook.
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I read it on the AGM fourm on facebook.
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I could not find any posts about this on the community page: can't post the link yet, but it is "facebookdotcom" and then "AGMphone/community"
What I have found is a bit more worrying though, complete lack of support and communication from AGM's side. :/
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I could not find any posts about this on the community page: can't post the link yet, but it is "facebookdotcom" and then "AGMphone/community"
What I have found is a bit more worrying though, complete lack of support and communication from AGM's side. :/
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The note on face book has a time stamp of Nov 14 at 9:27pm. I did notice all the comments about a lack of support, I also saw that AGM released a video of the testing for the X1 new operating system. In all I still bought the phone as it ticks all the right boxes. I dont relay need to have the latest and greatest updates, I just hope it will be reliable for the next few years.
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The note on face book has a time stamp of Nov 14 at 9:27pm. I did notice all the comments about a lack of support, I also saw that AGM released a video of the testing for the X1 new operating system. In all I still bought the phone as it ticks all the right boxes. I dont relay need to have the latest and greatest updates, I just hope it will be reliable for the next few years.
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Hear what you are saying, as I have never had to use phone support since my first mobile end of the 90's. We should be fine, and ideally Lineageos will be able to prolong the lifespan of this device.
on the page I have 'linked', there is no post dated November 14th. There is one from November 4th (Where's the X1 update?) and the next one is November 18th talking about supporting AGM as they seem to struggle.
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Hear what you are saying, as I have never had to use phone support since my first mobile end of the 90's. We should be fine, and ideally Lineageos will be able to prolong the lifespan of this device.
on the page I have 'linked', there is no post dated November 14th. There is one from November 4th (Where's the X1 update?) and the next one is November 18th talking about supporting AGM as they seem to struggle.
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this is the page is found it on https://www.facebook.com/AGMphone/
This is the post
Ulf Henriksen It seems to be a rugged phone, but the backside is shattered after two days in my pocket. I have been walking and in and out of my car. Not so impressed as my Sony xperia takes the same with no problems.
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Its near the bottom of the second thread, right after some unboxing pics
Does anyone know how to unlock the bootloader? No way to install a recovery without doing so. The fastboot oem unlock command does not work.
Also, there's a video of a walnut breaking the back glass on youtube. Look up "AGM X2 Defeat walnut"
Finally found a bit of a drop test. its in Chinese but you can watch the guy drop the phone several times from waist height
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCt7ipmOf7o
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Finally found a bit of a drop test. its in Chinese but you can watch the guy drop the phone several times from waist height
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCt7ipmOf7o
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and he actually put a water test with boiling water. Looks like a very hands on reviewer
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I've just sent you a PM but I'd love to be a tester for this product!
This thing looks huge, but I am also interested in trying it out.
Can you make a smaller case? This thing is freaking huge
just got my pixel 2, would love to test it and post a review on my website as well.
I'd be interested in giving the case a try. It's not every day, but I've had a couple times where it would have been useful.
I'd like to try it out, if that's alright. I usually charge my phone before work (streaming music for 8 hours), and then again when I go to bed. If I can get an all-day use from a case, that'd be great!
I was having problems sending my PM, so if it sent multiples, I'm sorry, but if it didn't send at all, let me know!
Just received my Pixel 2 today, would be interested in this. I work in IT and am on my phone a ton throughout the day!
Please also make a smaller case.3000mah would be fine
I would be very interested in using and providing a review.
I will forward your concerns to our working team!
jaggillararla said:
Can you make a smaller case? This thing is freaking huge
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Design of phones has been reducing the chin so to speak. This looks like it may make the pixel 2 close to the size of the XL. Even though, I'm actually curious about it. I'm normally on the road all day using my phone for GPS, phone calls, and email when stopped. Even with the pixels awesome battery, I still need a charger by the end of the day. What's the durability of the case itself?
Does the headphone adapter work with the case on? Just thought of it.
Would love to test your case and review.
The phone and battery are protected by an TPU case which can offer production for your daily use and guard the phone from drops. The battery case will work with headphone adapter.
bmwh0r3 said:
Design of phones has been reducing the chin so to speak. This looks like it may make the pixel 2 close to the size of the XL. Even though, I'm actually curious about it. I'm normally on the road all day using my phone for GPS, phone calls, and email when stopped. Even with the pixels awesome battery, I still need a charger by the end of the day. What's the durability of the case itself?
Does the headphone adapter work with the case on? Just thought of it.
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Count me in! I'll give you any feedback you need.
Does active edge or what ever Google calls it still work?
Hi, well, we are mainly working for make high-capacity battery cases.
jaggillararla said:
Can you make a smaller case? This thing is freaking huge
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We had not checked with the Google Voice APP before, but this battery case won't support NFC function.
AsuraDas said:
Does active edge or what ever Google calls it still work?
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The good news is, if you are not chosen for this XDA review, we also opening a review program on our Facebook page @zerolemon. You can go there to check the details for a chance.
If it is not too late i would like to try for one please.
Hello guys, been fan of the google phones since nexus 5 and didn't have a chance to get one because there is no google store or any store with officially support to sell pixel phones. So i decided to get used one for 155 bucks... And i am disappointed, can't believe that guy that sold me this device didn't noticed screen burn in.. of course he will not accept refound, and on pictures from online store where i found this one it was impossible to notice that... My question is, is it worth to buy a new screen sice they are really expensive and it is difficult to replace it.. or use this phone just like it is till i decide to buy a new one... Any advice will be appreciated..
Beside this screen problem, i think pixel 2xl is great device, and man, i missed that stock android experience...it flies even it is almost 3 years old...
Edit: and screen burn in doesn't bother me so much, but this yellowish screen is really noticable... Screen image is like i have constantly night mode enabled...
And what can cause this defections of screen in this device...if it will come again with the new one it is definitely not worth to replace the screen..
krokanic said:
Hello guys, been fan of the google phones since nexus 5 and didn't have a chance to get one because there is no google store or any store with officially support to sell pixel phones. So i decided to get used one for 155 bucks... And i am disappointed, can't believe that guy that sold me this device didn't noticed screen burn in.. of course he will not accept refound, and on pictures from online store where i found this one it was impossible to notice that... My question is, is it worth to buy a new screen sice they are really expensive and it is difficult to replace it.. or use this phone just like it is till i decide to buy a new one... Any advice will be appreciated..
Beside this screen problem, i think pixel 2xl is great device, and man, i missed that stock android experience...it flies even it is almost 3 years old...
Edit: and screen burn in doesn't bother me so much, but this yellowish screen is really noticable... Screen image is like i have constantly night mode enabled...
And what can cause this defections of screen in this device...if it will come again with the new one it is definitely not worth to replace the screen..
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Sorry for your bad luck, man.
I had bought a Pixel 2 XL back in February and recently dropped it, shattering the top of the screen. I thought about replacing the screen, but, since a screen replacement would cost just as much as another phone, I went ahead and found another one on eBay. The only complaint I have about the replacement I got is that it seems the battery has degraded more than the original one; 75% on the replacement and 95% on the original. I'm sure I'll have to replace the battery at some point.
The screen doesn't seem too difficult to replace though it does look like there are some sensitive spots you have to watch out for when disassembling.
If it's an option, I would bring it somewhere to get repaired, like Ubreakifix.
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Sorry for your bad luck, man.
I had bought a Pixel 2 XL back in February and recently dropped it, shattering the top of the screen. I thought about replacing the screen, but, since a screen replacement would cost just as much as another phone, I went ahead and found another one on eBay. The only complaint I have about the replacement I got is that it seems the battery has degraded more than the original one; 75% on the replacement and 95% on the original. I'm sure I'll have to replace the battery at some point.
The screen doesn't seem too difficult to replace though it does look like there are some sensitive spots you have to watch out for when disassembling.
If it's an option, I would bring it somewhere to get repaired, like Ubreakifix.
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Thanks for your answer...
I see that price for pixel 2 screen is almost half a price of 2xl screen, so one more bad luck i think.. and in my country, repair shops are sh..t.. they don't repair phones that are not popular here, and google devices for sure are not..and if they do repair, they don't take responsibility if they damaging something else..
On eBay, as you said, price for the screen is almost a price of the another phone..
And didn't know that model from 2017 have this screen burn in problems... If i knew that, surely i would be more careful with buying... Bro i was really happy to get a Pixel device
So i think best option is to wait for some cheap pixel 2xl screen or device with broken motherboard and replace it myself... Have some experience, replaced screen on htc m8 (never again) and replaced battery on htc u11, it was pretty easy...
I have the same burn in like yours but i get used to it actually also to mention i use fullscreen gestures rather than navbar buttons, recently i found an app called display tester it has a mode called black & white bars i played it for lile 15 mins & it reduced the burn in effect for some time, give it a try
Burn in h putt to be more precise burn out) is normal.
I bothered Google so hard that they send me a me one and forgot to asked the plants one to be returned.
Anyway, I'm using the one and my father the other one, no problem.
I'm using gestures and pimped them with gestureplus (play store)
The display is always a bit yellowish and overall too dark.
My mother has an old Pixel (first gen), which was manufactured by htc, and that one has a brilliant Samsung display
Nightf0x_007 said:
I have the same burn in like yours but i get used to it actually also to mention i use fullscreen gestures rather than navbar buttons, recently i found an app called display tester it has a mode called black & white bars i played it for lile 15 mins & it reduced the burn in effect for some time, give it a try
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I am sceptical about this apps, because this is a hardware issue...but what can i lose... I'll give it a try..
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I am sceptical about this apps, because this is a hardware issue...but what can i lose... I'll give it a try..
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yes i agree with you but this app really worked with me, i open playstore dark mode its grey the whole screen looks uniform, the app slightly helps with the burn in for sometime actually
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yes i agree with you but this app really worked with me, i open playstore dark mode its grey the whole screen looks uniform, the app slightly helps with the burn in for sometime actually
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Didn't helped but thanks for advice anyway... I ran those apps for few hours and nothing changed... I see screen replacement is not that hard, only thing remaining is to find cheap fully working display...till that i must use the phone just how it is
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Hello guys, been fan of the google phones since nexus 5 and didn't have a chance to get one because there is no google store or any store with officially support to sell pixel phones. So i decided to get used one for 155 bucks... And i am disappointed, can't believe that guy that sold me this device didn't noticed screen burn in.. of course he will not accept refound, and on pictures from online store where i found this one it was impossible to notice that... My question is, is it worth to buy a new screen sice they are really expensive and it is difficult to replace it.. or use this phone just like it is till i decide to buy a new one... Any advice will be appreciated..
Beside this screen problem, i think pixel 2xl is great device, and man, i missed that stock android experience...it flies even it is almost 3 years old...
Edit: and screen burn in doesn't bother me so much, but this yellowish screen is really noticable... Screen image is like i have constantly night mode enabled...
And what can cause this defections of screen in this device...if it will come again with the new one it is definitely not worth to replace the screen..
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This is a problem with all the Pixel 2 XL and every other phone that has OLED screen. Some get it worse then others. And since Google used lower quality screens its more prominent on them.
But i had burn in on my Galaxy S3 my Nexus 6p and my Pixel 2 XL (2 of them)
I worked for ATT Wireless and Verizon Wireless for about 6 years and saw it on so many phones. from Samsung LG Google etc.
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This is a problem with all the Pixel 2 XL and every other phone that has OLED screen. Some get it worse then others. And since Google used lower quality screens its more prominent on them.
But i had burn in on my Galaxy S3 my Nexus 6p and my Pixel 2 XL (2 of them)
I worked for ATT Wireless and Verizon Wireless for about 6 years and saw it on so many phones. from Samsung LG Google etc.
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Could it be because of bad phone using... Because i had 10-15 devices, some was new some was used and never had this type of issue... And i use my phone a lot... But if i can expect this problem when i change the display it is better to buy another device...
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Could it be because of bad phone using... Because i had 10-15 devices, some was new some was used and never had this type of issue... And i use my phone a lot... But if i can expect this problem when i change the display it is better to buy another device...
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This was an issue with the Pixel 2's from day 1.
Reporters and bloggers were tweeting they were having problems on launch day. It made google give out 2 year warranties on them in the beginning.
Google has always had an issue with screens all the way back to the Nexus 5. Esp when the phone is made by LG
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This was an issue with the Pixel 2's from day 1.
Reporters and bloggers were tweeting they were having problems on launch day. It made google give out 2 year warranties on them in the beginning.
Google has always had an issue with screens all the way back to the Nexus 5. Esp when the phone is made by LG
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Thanks for the info, best option is to use custom kernel to try fix this yellowish screen with kcal... Really can't believe that phone that costed so much at the launch had such a bad issue.. wish i knew that before buying...
Just got mine for 99 bucks on ebay...MINT condition with a small burn in. Happens to be the "G" oogle symbol in the middle of the screen, very faint but it fits at least. couldn't be happier really.
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Just got mine for 99 bucks on ebay...MINT condition with a small burn in. Happens to be the "G" oogle symbol in the middle of the screen, very faint but it fits at least. couldn't be happier really.
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Did you know that it will come with burn in... I think 99 bucks is a little expensive for faulty screen...
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Did you know that it will come with burn in... I think 99 bucks is a little expensive for faulty screen...
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Yep I did, but didn't know the extent. Took a big chance. Totally worth 99 bucks. Most of them "refurbished" therefore not rootable, are going for about 200+ still.
Darkmode and you can't see the burn in; "light mode" barely can see it. It's a verizon variant and ready to roll. I use Google FI and it, out of the box...was seamless to use with that service. The outside, chassis? MINT. Mint I say. Not even a micro scratch to be seen. It's almost like, judging by what the burn it says...it was a display unit in a small shop that never got actually touched by a finger.
Now that I think about it, there is no evidence it's a verizon variant. When I turned it on no verizon anything...no preinstalled VZW app, nothing. I updated it to 10, updated all apps on wifi, never asked for any VZW account or anything. Downloaded the FI app...and boom...esim was up and activated. Maybe the ebay seller thought it was a VZW one? I know Google made it pretty much in an unbranded state on VZW? Confirm anyone? lol anyway LOVE IT, until the 4a eventually comes out, then I'll get that.
UPDATE: yep a VZW variant...in dev options "allow OEM unlock" is greyed out. No biggie, no need for root imho with stock pixel experience. ADB sideloaded "11 Preview 4" and went smooth. It's nice.
Hey this question mostly guess for the people that have had their phone since launch Has it been worth the money? I was wondering how do u like it? and Is the battery as terrible as every YouTuber makes it seem? I just ordered and I'm so excited
Yes it's worth it!
Biggest downer for me is no e-sim.
Battery life is fine.
And most importantly the camera is FAR better than youtube reviewers are saying.
Again in my experience.
I got it a few days before launch day and have loved it every day since. The big screen is totally worth it! I almost never use the outer screen, just occasionally for things like telling the med reminder app I took my med if my phone is already folded, or camera preview so I can take a more quality selfie with the back cameras (phone open), etc. Battery life is good for me. Speed and storage (larger version) are great, screen quality (on natural not vivid) is great, etc. The T-mobile connection issues suck and I hope they are fixed soon, but not all T-mobile customers have the issue (my friend in another state doesn't). But, the temporary fix helps - I just need them to fix it so it can roam so I'm not worried when traveling anywhere. Finding a good case isn't fun, though. I like the one I have now, but I don't think it would protect it very much from a drop/fall.
I've had it since launch..............believe it or not, I use the outer screen more than the inner one. I have taken it on vacation a couple of times. The most recent trip was to Hawaii back in December. Just before we left, I found a case that had a built-in kickstand and actually added more bulk to the phone than I realized..........well, that made the device cumbersome carrying it around on hikes and to the beach. Sometimes, depending on what shorts I was wearing, I would carry the phone in my left hand while walking around Waikiki just so it wouldn't "weigh" me down. I went back to the slimmer case after I got home. Phone has been out since August, and haven't seen anybody else with the same phone. I thought I would on vacation, but trips to busy airports, shopping malls, etc...........didn't see another person with the ZFold. I know it's expensive but you see big iphones everywhere and those aren't cheap either. I do miss the width of my Note-10+ instead of this slimmer one. Was tempted to do the trade-in for the Galaxy S22 Ultra, but will probably wait to see if the ZFold4 is any better and might upgrade to that. Only problem is, the trade-in value of the ZFold3 will drop by then. I hear the next Fold will have the S-pen and a 5000mah battery, not sure if that is enough to upgrade. Currently, you can get $900 trade-in through Samsung, T-Mobile chat person said I can get $1000 through them..............but will probably hold on to mine for now. I don't do any multiple apps tasks, but probably should try to do more to maximize its use and justify why I got it. The 5G on it, for the most part, isn't great. I was getting the 5G UC symbol a couple of weeks ago and not anymore. There was a software update last week and I think it was a T-mobile update to get rid of that symbol, didn't include the Feb security patch. Currently with the Speedtest app, getting 20.9 download, and 6.57 upload. It was way better than that prior to the update.............thanks T-mobile!
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I got it a few days before launch day and have loved it every day since. The big screen is totally worth it! I almost never use the outer screen, just occasionally for things like telling the med reminder app I took my med if my phone is already folded, or camera preview so I can take a more quality selfie with the back cameras (phone open), etc. Battery life is good for me. Speed and storage (larger version) are great, screen quality (on natural not vivid) is great, etc. The T-mobile connection issues suck and I hope they are fixed soon, but not all T-mobile customers have the issue (my friend in another state doesn't). But, the temporary fix helps - I just need them to fix it so it can roam so I'm not worried when traveling anywhere. Finding a good case isn't fun, though. I like the one I have now, but I don't think it would protect it very much from a drop/fall.
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I need to shut up, as I picked up my phone today and it jumped out of my hands. I tried to catch it, but couldn't quite get it as it bounced off my fingers and onto the hardwood floor inner screen face-down. I thought it was a goner when I picked it up and the touch sensors were not working on the inner screen (tried to get to the notification I needed to respond to as I took my med), but I turned the screen off and back on again and it was working fine again. Tested most of the diagnostics in the Samsung Members app and everything was fine. Phew!
The front screen side of the case did slide off a bit in the fall, but it didn't break and slid back on when I picked it up. I do use double-sided tape so it doesn't slide every time I open the phone (don't want to scratch the front screen), but it wasn't enough for the fall.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
I need to shut up, as I picked up my phone today and it jumped out of my hands. I tried to catch it, but couldn't quite get it as it bounced off my fingers and onto the hardwood floor inner screen face-down. I thought it was a goner when I picked it up and the touch sensors were not working on the inner screen (tried to get to the notification I needed to respond to as I took my med), but I turned the screen off and back on again and it was working fine again. Tested most of the diagnostics in the Samsung Members app and everything was fine. Phew!
The front screen side of the case did slide off a bit in the fall, but it didn't break and slid back on when I picked it up. I do use double-sided tape so it doesn't slide every time I open the phone (don't want to scratch the front screen), but it wasn't enough for the fall.
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Nice to hear that it didn't break. I think I dropped mine (folded) about a month or two after I got it and nothing happened, case protected it.....seems to be very durable device.
For me personally. Its worthed it. I upgraded from my 1 year old iPhone 12 Pro Max. Now i can freely buy accessories without worrying that it wouldn't work(because not all accessories are MFI certified in Indonesia).
And not to forget that the Z Fold 3 when closed is not that wide, thus making it easier for 1 handed use.
Yes and no chance to change it!!!
I have it since the launch. I have also a Iphone 13 pro. I have tried meanwhile s21 and Pixel 6 and Mi11 Ultra. So now a couple of months of using I can only say: Once Fold and forever Fold. Yes it's heavy and bulky. But Yes is the only one TABLET that is good for one hand operation and phone calls and can you carry in pants pocket. And the camera is not super duper but is top, and the battery (SOC Snapdragon) is far better than any other Exynos on the market and on the planet.
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Nice to hear that it didn't break. I think I dropped mine (folded) about a month or two after I got it and nothing happened, case protected it.....seems to be very durable device.
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So am I! I'll be paying for this phone for the next 2.5 years, so it needs to stay in one piece for a long time to come. My previous phone I had for 5-6 years, but of all it wasn't a folding phone. A friend of mine dropped his Fold 3 on tile and had to get a new front screen protector, but it otherwise survived the fall.
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Yes and no chance to change it!!!
I have it since the launch. I have also a Iphone 13 pro. I have tried meanwhile s21 and Pixel 6 and Mi11 Ultra. So now a couple of months of using I can only say: Once Fold and forever Fold. Yes it's heavy and bulky. But Yes is the only one TABLET that is good for one hand operation and phone calls and can you carry in pants pocket. And the camera is not super duper but is top, and the battery (SOC Snapdragon) is far better than any other Exynos on the market and on the planet.
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I actually like the bulk of the phone when closed because it makes it easier to hold and carry without dropping it (when I dropped it, it was open to the inner screen), and I'm saying this as a woman with small hands (medium glove size).
Took a look at the fold3 in an at&t store the other day. Looks like they have the first generation bugs squished. By the time I'm ready to buy a new one, I'll probably get the fold 4 or 5.
Love the phone. Love it so much I have a second as a backup in case this one breaks (truth!). I love the ability to use the front screen one handed. I love having that big inner screen when multitasking or reviewing/editing large documents. The only thing I also wish I had was a zoom/macro lens. It doesn't even have to be a nice one, just a passable one. But I don't take many pictures so I usually let that slide.
I've had mine since October 2021 and it's been one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had with a gadget. The display is amazing, it's fast, camera is decent enough, I love tablet mode, like really, really love it. I definitely can't wait for the next generation of foldables because it's just going to get better. It's definitely worth buying now however, if your still having doubts.
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Love the phone. Love it so much I have a second as a backup in case this one breaks (truth!). I love the ability to use the front screen one handed. I love having that big inner screen when multitasking or reviewing/editing large documents. The only thing I also wish I had was a zoom/macro lens. It doesn't even have to be a nice one, just a passable one. But I don't take many pictures so I usually let that slide.
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I bought the Oppo Find N (foldable) as my backup. It's actually a really awesome phone, with features and design choices that I find better than my Z Fold 3. One thing is it's size, it's fantastic, definitely the better choice on Oppo's side to choose such a wide design. It's even better when you use it in tablet mode as it's aspect ratio is 16:9, which means more apps support it better.
for me i like having the 2 phone factor one big one small, so I am never really bored looking and using it. I find when I am home and chilled i use the big screen more but when i am out and about the small screen, If only they can cut away some of the weight it would be perfect.
It’s just an incredible experience. I have been a loyal Note fan since the first Note, but after owning the Fold 3 I can safely tell you that I won’t go back to a slab phone, even to a Note
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It’s just an incredible experience. I have been a loyal Note fan since the first Note, but after owning the Fold 3 I can safely tell you that I won’t go back to a slab phone, even to a Note
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Same here !
I tried the S22 Ultra @ Bestbuy , it's really a nice phone , but .. it can't convert into a minitablet so .. nah !
Im going for the next generation (Fold4)
pvillasuso said:
Same here !
I tried the S22 Ultra @ Bestbuy , it's really a nice phone , but .. it can't convert into a minitablet so .. nah !
Im going for the next generation (Fold4)
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I've had a z Fold 3 since the 1st month it came out. Great phone but I ended up pre-ordering the S22 Ultra just to test the waters. Been a note fan since the early days. Just received the S22 ultra this week and it's also a great phone. The integrated s pen and bigger battery has definitely tipped the scales in favor of the S22 ultra so I'll be returning the Fold. I will miss that huge screen though!
Had the phone since february, dropped it once and although the front body dented a little bit, the phone is still working well. Been using the bigger screen for media and the smaller screen for calls and short messages. IDK why some doesn't have e-sim but mine does.
I've had the Fold 3 for around a month now, as I had to replace my Note 9 N960N. I can honestly say that it is the best purchase I have made this year. It is such a good device, I can use it for everything from gaming to media consumption for work. It is truly a very versatile device.
The fact that you can use it as a normal phone and open it up to a tablet for a more completely experience blows my mind every time I use it.