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Gone are the days of sim swapping???

This is more of a general ATT thread, but it does relate to my note 4.....
I have a one plus one, and my note 4 and from day to day I want the flexibilty to swap phones as I see fit. It used to be move the sim, and you're good. Lately, I've see issues when I moved my sim from phone to phone.
The first was last week, I bought an alpha clone off of craigslist and voice would work, but data would not. I dropped it back into my one plus one, and same thing, no data. Went to an ATT store, and they did an IMEI swap on my account and all was well in the world. Years ago, the IMEI swap on the carrier system kinda just followed the phones and wasnt ever an 'official' thing...but now it seems it is. Any ideas on this, can I swap my IMEI online with ATT?
Obviously I did a search on it, and it takes me to the ATT website, but it looks more along the lines of swapping when you've made an official order, not just because you want to. Am I missing something?

Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!

The Sims that are blue are lte Sims don't get the ones that are purple those are isis

Clienterror said:
Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!
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Is that what ATT is giving out by default now? I have a nano sim (that i got for that nexus clone) and it works fine in my OPO. If I put it in my note 4, I only get 4G, not LTE, which I thought was odd. I can do as suggested, just want to make sure I understand first...

All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices

thanitos said:
All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices
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ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.

Call customer care and give them the imei of a phone that supports lte and have them add that and just not change the sim

dboogie2288 said:
ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.
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The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.

zoso28 said:
The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.
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Interesting. When I went to another ATT store a few weeks ago to change to a nano sim, the rep changed some codes on my plan. I got this in an email:
DELETED MOBILESHAREVSL64VT
ADDED MOBILESHAREVP20
Last night I went to a different ATT store than usual, and found out they were just a partner (though you could never tell it) and he said there were a few wonky codes on my plan, one of which mentioned something about APNs...so maybe youre on to something. He was under the impression it was grandfathered though, so it was old. He could, of course be wrong.
He also tried his SIM (oh and I have a non-secure sim) in my one plus one from his moto x 2014 and it worked just fine. LTE and everything. He put my sim into his X, and got 4G only, no LTE.
So he swapped me back into a non-secure micro sim, just to try things out again, and I left the store with my one plus one working. I came home, dropped it into my Note 4, and got 4G only, no LTE. When I put it back into my OPO, I got a text message saying I needed a new sim to work with my phones new feature. Weird.

The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account

zoso28 said:
The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account
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So that sounds like its our culprit.
If i have a secure sim for my note 4....can I move that to my OPO? I've heard no, but I've also heard yes...

I have been swapping my Sim card that I got with my Note 4 with my Note 3 Nokia 1520 and my Gear S. I have had data act up but only with the Note 4. Everything else has worked fine. In the Note 4 what I have done is add the older apn and toggle to that apn. Let it pickup the 4G lte icon or whatever it is. Got to phone app settings advanced settings and make sure you don't get an error. Then switch back to the Nextgen apn.
Worked for me.
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For Christmas I got an iPhone 5s for my daughter,to replace her iPhone 4s.Its been so long since I've used an iphone. Christmas morning she opened it.I told her just swap your Sim card,she came back down kinda upset and said it didnt fit.Now I felt bad,ATT isn't open nothing I could do.I remembered once I took a Sim that was too small and crazy glued it to a iPhone 3g Sim tray and it worked.So I googled cutting an iPhone 5s Sim card,and there's actually a template you can DL and trace where to cut.For some reason my printer didn't want to work so used a ruler and the dimensions that were on the site,it was micro Sim to nano sim. I got really sharp heavy duty scissors and cut it,sanded the sides and corner,even the non contact side because the nano is like a hair thinner,fit right in sim tray and worked perfect.I've offered to give her my S5,nope lol these kids and there Iphones.And that phones IMEI was on my plan that day,it was an ATT phone from someone who recently got a 6plus that I got it from.

Dropped/loss of signal during call

So my mom upgraded her original Note (i717) to the Note 4 (N910A). Came out of the box with the NK3 update.
The problem is that whenever she uses the phone, it will randomly drop the call; can be 20 minutes or 2 minutes before it drops. Sometimes there will be two beeps when attempting to call back. Also the signal bars will completely drop and the no signal icon will appear. HOWEVER, after ending the call, the signal miraculously comes back.
I've disable HD voice call, and that did absolutely nothing. Using the hidden menu and disabling LTE (thanks AT&T for butchering the regular settings) seems to have stabilize the calls now, but for a flagship phone, not having LTE is a big minus.
She has considered returning the Note 4 for the iPhone 6+, which is a complete step backwards in my book.
Anyone else having similar problems?

cee43ja1 said:
So my mom upgraded her original Note (i717) to the Note 4 (N910A). Came out of the box with the NK3 update.
The problem is that whenever she uses the phone, it will randomly drop the call; can be 20 minutes or 2 minutes before it drops. Sometimes there will be two beeps when attempting to call back. Also the signal bars will completely drop and the no signal icon will appear. HOWEVER, after ending the call, the signal miraculously comes back.
I've disable HD voice call, and that did absolutely nothing. Using the hidden menu and disabling LTE (thanks AT&T for butchering the regular settings) seems to have stabilize the calls now, but for a flagship phone, not having LTE is a big minus.
She has considered returning the Note 4 for the iPhone 6+, which is a complete step backwards in my book.
Anyone else having similar problems?
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Replace Sim card or get back to store and get new phone.
Clicking from notecable N910A

norbarb said:
Replace Sim card or get back to store and get new phone.
Clicking from notecable N910A
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Hopefully it's just the sim card. Pretty sure if it is the phone itself, my mom will switch to the 6+ immediately and not play the lottery game on getting a flawless Note 4.
Edit: After some more searching, the culprit may be the NK3 update. Which sucks because you cannot avoid the upgrade, and it will automatically install after the third dismissal.

cee43ja1 said:
Hopefully it's just the sim card. Pretty sure if it is the phone itself, my mom will switch to the 6+ immediately and not play the lottery game on getting a flawless Note 4.
Edit: After some more searching, the culprit may be the NK3 update. Which sucks because you cannot avoid the upgrade, and it will automatically install after the third dismissal.
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You can flash back to NIE, regardless if your device came w NK3, and you can disable the updater service w the debloater program.*
Link to NIE firmware:*http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56230799
Link to debloater:*http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58068827

xlr8shun said:
You can flash back to NIE, regardless if your device came w NK3, and you can disable the updater service w the debloater program.*
Link to NIE firmware:*http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56230799
Link to debloater:*http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58068827
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Much appreciated. Hopefully this will stop the random drops for good, until lollipop comes out.

Update: phone is still dropping calls, even with the NIE update. Time to head to the AT&T store now. Gonna have them look at the account and see if VoLTE is activated, and disable it completely.
Also, using the hidden menu, switching to GSM only will not stick. It somehow switches back to GSM/LTE on its own.

cee43ja1 said:
Update: phone is still dropping calls, even with the NIE update. Time to head to the AT&T store now. Gonna have them look at the account and see if VoLTE is activated, and disable it completely.
Also, using the hidden menu, switching to GSM only will not stick. It somehow switches back to GSM/LTE on its own.
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Did you get to At&t store and replace sim card ? I had same problem all i got was sim with secure element , they seems to work little better.

norbarb said:
Did you get to At&t store and replace sim card ? I had same problem all i got was sim with secure element , they seems to work little better.
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We haven't gone yet, but I am going to request a secure element sim card and have them look at VoLTE.
Even the AT&T forum users have the same problem.
https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-D...ropping-calls-and-losing-network/td-p/4197338
Edit: swapped the sim card with a new one, and it still drops the call. AT&T is saying that disabling VoLTE would permanently drop phone calls. I call BS, but who knows.
Edit 2: got off the phone with a knowledgeable AT&T tech. Told him that I rolled back to the NIE firmware, eliminating all traces of HD voice/VoLTE. He remoted into the phone to see it too. Confirmed that we are not in a VoLTE area, and that VoLTE is not active on the account. He also agrees that VoLTE is immature and buggy, and that the backbone needs to be mature and up to date before launching.
If it would drop calls again, we would have to call back immediately so they can see it in the system as it happens.

cee43ja1 said:
We haven't gone yet, but I am going to request a secure element sim card and have them look at VoLTE.
Even the AT&T forum users have the same problem.
https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-D...ropping-calls-and-losing-network/td-p/4197338
Edit: swapped the sim card with a new one, and it still drops the call. AT&T is saying that disabling VoLTE would permanently drop phone calls. I call BS, but who knows.
Edit 2: got off the phone with a knowledgeable AT&T tech. Told him that I rolled back to the NIE firmware, eliminating all traces of HD voice/VoLTE. He remoted into the phone to see it too. Confirmed that we are not in a VoLTE area, and that VoLTE is not active on the account. He also agrees that VoLTE is immature and buggy, and that the backbone needs to be mature and up to date before launching.
If it would drop calls again, we would have to call back immediately so they can see it in the system as it happens.
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Well it's obviously not an across the board thing or everyone would be having the issue. I suspect it's probably a bad radio in the phone. I would definitely have them swap the sim and phone as well as look at the account to make sure all the correct a count codes are present. And disabling VoLTE is definitely a good idea

^^^^^^^ seems like something wrong with hardware.

Looks like it might have to be swapped out for a new Note 4 then. 6+ would be the route to go to after all of this, but I don't believe in sweeping the problem under the rug.
Big fail on Samsung on QC. Even the rep at the AT&T store flat out told me that she believes Samsung makes their product only last two years before they start to break apart or have problems. Sure, there may be a few lemons with any product, but I don't even know how this particular unit passed QC.
Edit: AT&T Device Support Center has authorized an order for a new Note 4 that will ship in 1-2 days. Representative also has a Note 4, a launch model, and has not experienced any dropped calls or loss of signal.

New unit is now displaying Out of Service Area and dropping signal when calling. Two lemons? I have it recorded on my phone showing when it drops.
Sim card is not a problem. I have tested it in my HTC One, and it did not drop at all. Using my sim card in the Note 4 dropped a voicemail call after a minute.

AT&T submitted a case ticket to us. It was completed and it was complete BS. They wanted us to get a microcell, but that won't fix anything if the phone can't hold a call in the first place. Now we're getting a THIRD unit.

I have same problem with my note 4. It's the same slec. I live in the UK usingthe Three network. What shall I do??

Any pre-existing Fi users having trouble with activation?

I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that I've been with Fi on, and I popped my SIM card into my Pixel XL, but when I try to finish the activation, it keeps telling me that the SIM card isn't compatible, and to replace it with one that is. It appears my service is working, from what I can tell (as I can make/ receive calls and texts and browse the internet), but I have a perpetual ongoing notification from Fi that it hasn't finished activating, and when I try to finish it to clear the notification, that's when I keep getting the error. Any ideas?

mrw1215 said:
I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that I've been with Fi on, and I popped my SIM card into my Pixel XL, but when I try to finish the activation, it keeps telling me that the SIM card isn't compatible, and to replace it with one that is. It appears my service is working, from what I can tell (as I can make/ receive calls and texts and browse the internet), but I have a perpetual ongoing notification from Fi that it hasn't finished activating, and when I try to finish it to clear the notification, that's when I keep getting the error. Any ideas?
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Here is a snippet from Fi support I read somewhere and copied to my notepad. I would start by using the repair bad activation dialer code. The others are just good to have for reference. If you force a carrier the auto switching doesn't work even for trusted WiFi.
"Thanks for being a Project Fi user! ?*You may have heard about these mystical dialer codes. ?*Here they are and here's what they do!
Force Jump to Sprint: ?**#*#34777#*#*
Force Jump to T-Mobile: ?**#*#34866#*#*
Force Jump to Next Carrier: ?**#*#346398#*#*
Turn On Auto Switch: ?**#*#342886#*#*
Repair Bad Activation: ?**#*#34963#*#*
Current Network Info: ?**#*#344636#*#*
Make sure if you don't want to be locked into the carrier you force switched to, you need to use the "Turn On Auto Switch" code afterwards. ?*Auto-switching will resume after a reboot. ?*However, it will start with the last carrier that you were connected to before the reboot."
Edit:for some reason the codes are adding a question mark and another asterisk to the beginning. It's
Star,Pound,Star,Pound then Pound,Star,Pound,Star

Gizmoe said:
Here is a snippet from Fi support I read somewhere and copied to my notepad. I would start by using the repair bad activation dialer code. The others are just good to have for reference. If you force a carrier the auto switching doesn't work even for trusted WiFi.
"Thanks for being a Project Fi user! ?*You may have heard about these mystical dialer codes. ?*Here they are and here's what they do!
Force Jump to Sprint: ?**#*#34777#*#*
Force Jump to T-Mobile: ?**#*#34866#*#*
Force Jump to Next Carrier: ?**#*#346398#*#*
Turn On Auto Switch: ?**#*#342886#*#*
Repair Bad Activation: ?**#*#34963#*#*
Current Network Info: ?**#*#344636#*#*
Make sure if you don't want to be locked into the carrier you force switched to, you need to use the "Turn On Auto Switch" code afterwards. ?*Auto-switching will resume after a reboot. ?*However, it will start with the last carrier that you were connected to before the reboot."
Edit:for some reason the codes are adding a question mark and another asterisk to the beginning. It's
Star,Pound,Star,Pound then Pound,Star,Pound,Star
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Thanks for the info, but I also just stumbled across an old article from last year about how Fi sims changed and that Fi users had to upgrade their sims when the Nexus 5X and 6P came out. Since I stuck with my N6, that was never an issue for me, and honestly, I didn't even realize that was a thing. So, I placed an order for a new sim. Just sucks that I have to wait another week or so for it to arrive before I can start using my new Pixel. v_v

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Thanks for the info, but I also just stumbled across an old article from last year about how Fi sims changed and that Fi users had to upgrade their sims when the Nexus 5X and 6P came out. Since I stuck with my N6, that was never an issue for me, and honestly, I didn't even realize that was a thing. So, I placed an order for a new sim. Just sucks that I have to wait another week or so for it to arrive before I can start using my new Pixel. v_v
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I think they sent me a new sim last year when I went from the 6 to 6P maybe give them a call.

jawmail said:
I think they sent me a new sim last year when I went from the 6 to 6P maybe give them a call.
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Yeah, I just ordered a new sim through the website. I assume that all sims they send out now are the newer type, so hopefully they don't just give me a replacement sim for my current N6. @[email protected]
I hadn't ordered my Pixel from the Fi portion of the store, so I never had any kind of an option for a new sim card, that I recall. I just went straight through the Google store.

I got mine through Fi so hopefully when I get home the SIM that came with the Pixel XL won't give any issues.

If you order through Fi, a new sim comes with it. activation went flawless. If you look at the order it should show you a sim card is being sent with the phone. At least mine did.
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I don't believe it is so much a newer type sim as much as the sims seems to marry to the phone. When I put the new sim in it went through a transfer of the phone number over to the phone. seemed a bit strange but as I said it did go flawless with the new sim.
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Yeah, I just ordered a new sim through the website. I assume that all sims they send out now are the newer type, so hopefully they don't just give me a replacement sim for my current N6. @[email protected]
I hadn't ordered my Pixel from the Fi portion of the store, so I never had any kind of an option for a new sim card, that I recall. I just went straight through the Google store.
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Keeping the Verizon Note 7 alive

Guys,
I don't know how many of us are left but I'm sure the numbers are few and I believe this might be the best forum on the interwebs for this. I have a serious question and I want a place I can get some ongoing feedback and interaction and I know you are up to the task!
My Onyx Black Note 7 (bestest/most favortitist phone I've ever held) was summarily hotlined late last month. I was successful in getting it turned back on only to have it happen again 1 week later. SAD. I re-activated my Note 3 and now have two devices I use daily which seems really dumb. I WANT MY NOTE 7 BACK!!! I have been reading about trimming SIM cards down to fit and see that some have had promising results.
I contacted a buddy who works in a Verizon corporate store and he said that trimming my Micro SIM, from my active Note 3, to Nano size and putting it in my Note 7 would work...but not for long. They will eventually hotline me again (darn IMEI).
So...who has done/tried this? How did it go? How long did it last?
After the big trim, my SIM won't work in my Note 3 any longer and I'll have to get a replacement. This doesn't sound like a game I want to play till Fall.
I would like to believe that at some point they might stop the hotline game but it's probably wishful thinking.
Thanks Team.

i kept mine too and it does make a cool little tablet. if i could get it back on verizon's network i most definitely would do so.
but another issue is this: i took the replacement and therefore have the PHE firmware and am unable to root. but even if i could root, who would put together a ROM for such a device? there are only a handful of people who are in this boat. but that said, root for the PHE firmware would be nice to have...

I recently just let my phone go. It isn't worth it in the end, unless you take the phone to another network or really, really want to deal with with the company as a whole. My phone was hot lined, just like everyone else's. I had another rep take the hotline off, and had the note working again for about a week till it was turned off again. After emailing the CEO, and eventually talking to corporate office, the woman over the phone offered me, at best, a free certified S4 with a $20 increase to my line access fee for a 2-year contract. This option would have costed me the price of another Note7 in the end. At that point, going up in the chain isn't going to get you a refund, nor will they allow the phone to work on the network.
In the legal realm, Verizon can't hot line a phone because they "feel like the device is dangerous". They can't hot line a phone because "they want too" either. They can only hot line a phone under whatever clauses warrant it. If you bring this information to a Verizon rep, and ask them to provide prove that the US CPSC specifically is forcing all cell phone companies to hotline the phone...blah blah blah they'll tell you cool get a lawyer and go up the chain. Even mentioning the term "voluntary" recall triggers them. The store i went into, actually just to give someone a hard time over the whole thing, physically stepped away from me when he saw my phone and the look on his face was utter disgust, like what am I still doing with it? But, whatever.
Beyond all the legality, the system itself is auditing accounts with valid ID's. Note7 IMEI's that is. If the system catches one on an active line, the phone will get hot lined. At that point, you have to find a tech rep who will switch it off, or just reactivate the device. Nobody knows how often or how long the system audit will stay on for, but its there and that can not be avoided. With the system in place, AND fighting an entire company who doesn't want another liability issue, its just over.
The two solutions that current work: Fight the system, or bring the phone to a prepaid network. I'm sorry, and I wish I could offer you more help. I mean hell, I was given the device for free and I still fought to keep using it. Long after the whole thing went down with the recall and everything.

Thanks for the replies.
Yeah it sucks.
I pre-ordered mine, spent week setting it up perfectly only to have to return it a month later. I then followed every forum and had every conceivable block in place in the end, to avoid some crippling malady (so far still 100% charging, no nag screen. Did these happen to any Verizon customers?) Then came the dreaded hotline. The first time I was hit, they directed all of my outgoing calls to my personal voice mail message making it impossible to even call customer support. I had to borrow a phone to call in.
And now... it's a gorgeous, joy to hold wi-fi tablet.
My hope is that they will stop this hotline nonsense at some point and I can do the SIM swap. I have read a couple of posts that swapping back and forth isn't all that difficult but even so, sounds like a PITA.
In the end I'm just sad about the whole situation but I'm sure a new and improved Note will lift my spirits and all will be right in my world again.
Cheers

has anyone done the rooting for the note 7 and had it fail in odin process what do i do so i may proceed and get it rooted successfully?

I'm doing the same exact thing as you: Using two devices daily.
I use my cracked Galaxy S4 for call & SMS (which is rarely) and my Note 7 for everything else.
Just waiting till the day I can buy the Galaxy S8 and only have to carry around one device.

My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.

[A note 3 SIM won't work because it's too big, the chip part is larger than the entire Note 7 SIM. Those that have done this are using Note 4 or later SIMs.

Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?

Is Verizon's method based on the phone IMEI or build.prop device name? With root it's easy to change the build.prop and with Xposed there's an IMEI change module. Would this work?
I have 3 Note 7's, non are rooted yet. Not sure which updates they have but I'm going to try.

Groffice said:
Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?
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S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.

Spike96 said:
S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.
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So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.

Groffice said:
So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.
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Yep absolutely. The S pen is cool and all, but I haven't really used it in months.
I just hope Samsung integrates the GIF maker into the Galaxy S8 plus, that's the coolest function.

I'm still rockin my n7 fully functional... minus the crack on the back glass. So mad. They tried many things but I'm using it right now
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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit

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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit
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I hope so!! Please keep us updated ok?
Thanks

Still going strong!
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 7 using XDA Labs

Oyeve said:
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Exactly what I'm doing. Signed up for T-Mobile one and using their sim. I plan on using it till the note 8 is released

Went the whole month of February suspended, then I activated a s7 and switched the sim over to the n7. Been working since the first. Returned the s7, holding out til the s8 plus has been out awhile before jumping to that.
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The s7 felt so slow and gimped compared to the n7. Can't go backwards in the smartphone world.

Thinking About Doing Same Thing
Oyeve said:
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex

Sans SIM, Successful Hard Factory Reset on Note 7
Egyptmex said:
Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex
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After backing up my Note 7 and removing the SIM card, I am pleased to report that the dreaded OTA update I successfully dodged for months when I was a Verizon customer no longer appears after a hard reset (simultaneous press of Home, Power, and Volume Up buttons and then choosing factory reset from menu)!

Using with Verizon

Hi! So, i'm new to the forums, so if this is the wrong place to post feel free to yell at me.
I'm /officially/ starting college now although I've technically already been attending, and I've been surviving with a tablet until now.
I'd like to get a Mi Mix 2, but I'll be adding it to my family's shared plan. As far as i know, the phone has all the bands necessary for use with the company, but i'm more unsure on getting the actual SIM card. I believe they have a 'compatibility' list and they will likely refuse to simply activate a card(?) and try to get me to buy a different phone despite the Mix 2 actually being compatible.
How did you Verizon users get your sim cards?
To add on, i do have a -very- old flip phone, but it stays in my car and is really only used in case i have a wreck, run out of gas on the road somewhere, etc... none of which have happened as of yet. I'm pretty sure when i go in the store and request a new, nano sim card(I'm not even sure the old flip phone even uses a sim card. Its.... old. It does get service, but i know older, CDMA phones worked without them, so..), they're going to want to see the new phone.

Astral3 said:
Hi! So, i'm new to the forums, so if this is the wrong place to post feel free to yell at me.
I'm /officially/ starting college now although I've technically already been attending, and I've been surviving with a tablet until now.
I'd like to get a Mi Mix 2, but I'll be adding it to my family's shared plan. As far as i know, the phone has all the bands necessary for use with the company, but i'm more unsure on getting the actual SIM card. I believe they have a 'compatibility' list and they will likely refuse to simply activate a card(?) and try to get me to buy a different phone despite the Mix 2 actually being compatible.
How did you Verizon users get your sim cards?
To add on, i do have a -very- old flip phone, but it stays in my car and is really only used in case i have a wreck, run out of gas on the road somewhere, etc... none of which have happened as of yet. I'm pretty sure when i go in the store and request a new, nano sim card(I'm not even sure the old flip phone even uses a sim card. Its.... old. It does get service, but i know older, CDMA phones worked without them, so..), they're going to want to see the new phone.
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I don't use Verizon but from what I understand all you need to do is activate the card in another Verizon phone and put it into your Mix 2. So borrow one of your family members phones and you're done. The same process applies for Google Fi if you're interested in that too.
And you're right about those a$$holes at Verizon. They'll refuse to sell you a sim and push you to buy one of their phones. I tried with my compatible Nubia Z7 Max several years ago and they were rude and aggressive about it.

Twotems said:
I don't use Verizon but from what I understand all you need to do is activate the card in another Verizon phone and put it into your Mix 2. So borrow one of your family members phones and you're done. The same process applies for Google Fi if you're interested in that too.
And you're right about those a$$holes at Verizon. They'll refuse to sell you a sim and push you to buy one of their phones. I tried with my compatible Nubia Z7 Max several years ago and they were rude and aggressive about it.
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So, just order a sim online and pop it into another phone? Does Verizon not need to put the phone number/etc on it & deactivate the old, possibly non-sim-using phone or can i do that online and/or during activation? (It has been....a while, since i owned a phone, lol)
Also, don't they register the IMEI number or w/e when you activate the phone? Wouldn't having two phones on the same account/shared plans with the same device number cause issues?

My SIM was already activated with Red Pocket Verizon in an approved Moto G5s+. When I received my new Mi Mix 2 I tried to activate it with Red Pocket but found out that its not a whitelisted phone. So I tried just putting the SIM in my Mix 2 and it worked. The only issue was getting LTE to work. I solved that by getting into phone settings by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and setting preferred network type to LTE/CDMA/UMTS auto (PRL).

Astral3 said:
So, just order a sim online and pop it into another phone? Does Verizon not need to put the phone number/etc on it & deactivate the old, possibly non-sim-using phone or can i do that online and/or during activation? (It has been....a while, since i owned a phone, lol)
Also, don't they register the IMEI number or w/e when you activate the phone? Wouldn't having two phones on the same account/shared plans with the same device number cause issues?
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See below
stoshie said:
My SIM was already activated with Red Pocket Verizon in an approved Moto G5s+. When I received my new Mi Mix 2 I tried to activate it with Red Pocket but found out that its not a whitelisted phone. So I tried just putting the SIM in my Mix 2 and it worked. The only issue was getting LTE to work. I solved that by getting into phone settings by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and setting preferred network type to LTE/CDMA/UMTS auto (PRL).
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This ^^^^

Alright, thanks!