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Old Nexus 6 Charger?

This is probably a dumb question, but if I buy some USB-C -> USB cables, can I use my old Nexus 6 charging bricks and still get fast charge on my Pixel? I have a couple of them from my Nexus 6, and I'd hate for them to be useless now.

Don't take my word for gospel but the OEM Nexus 6 charging block has the same output voltage as the pixels block.
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I used the USB cable that came with the XL with my N6 charger last night. Seems to work just fine.

You absolutely can. Just make sure you have a Benson approved cable.
Also, it won't charge as fast as the OEM charger.
The N6 Charger Specs:
Nexus 6 battery is 3220mAh Turbo charger rates:
[email protected]=14.4W (Turbo 2)
[email protected]=14.4W (Turbo 1)
[email protected] =9W (Standard output)
You will only get standard output since the Type-C standard is 5v only. So you will charge at approximately 1.6A rather than the approximate 3A from the Pixel Charger

Did you guys ( gals too . . . ) see the www.fixit.com tear down ?
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wtf ! there were the qualcom qc 3.0 chips soldered onto the main board . . .

old_fart said:
Did you guys ( gals too . . . ) see the www.fixit.com tear down ?
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wtf ! there were the qualcom qc 3.0 chips soldered onto the main board . . .
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What do those do for us?
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This may be helpful.
Below is a quote from a Google engineer from another forum.
"Will it be safe to use my nexus 6p USB-C charger with the pixel/XL?
I would advise against it. Please use the charger that comes in the Pixel box with it.?* The Nexus 6P charger will technically work with the cord it comes with, but if you use a USB-IF certified USB3.1 cord, the Nexus 6P charger behaves badly.
You do not want to risk a $800 phone on a $10 charger. If you use the OEM 18W Pixel charger, warranty will cover any problems you encounter.
Also, will it be safe to use any qualcomm Quickcharge charger?
Is the Qualcomm QuickCharge charger USB Type-A (square plug) or Type-C (round plug)?
Type-A (square plug) QC chargers: it depend on the manufacturer. Some make good chargers, others make bad. It depends on the maker.
Type-C (round plug) QC chargers: these are bad and go against the spec. I do not recommend using any Type-C Qualcomm QuickCharge chargers.
also, according to the processor spec, it does support quickcharge 3.0
No. The Pixel does not support QC at all. It uses USB-PD (PowerDelivery) at [email protected] and [email protected] levels. You need a USB-PD power supply with those levels or greater.
will there be any harm or advantage if i use a quick-charge 3.0 certified charger?
You need to speak to QualComm. I have personally tested "QualComm Certified" chargers that are bad. I have data to prove this. However there are many "good" QC3.0 chargers as well.
There will be no harm (if the charger is good). There is no advantage (if the charger is good). A QC Type-A charger will work like any other USB-A port and charge at 1.5A maximum. (It remains to be seen if the Pixel will recognize Apple 2.4A charging.)."
-Nathan K.
Link to said forum. Hopefully it's ok to paste here.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/phone-by-google/jxhe1y4GRaU
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/1PJZT2g61Ag

My Nexus 6 Motorola Turbo Charger charges faster than my included Pixel charger...
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neyenlives said:
My Nexus 6 Motorola Turbo Charger charges faster than my included Pixel charger...
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Thats weird because it shouldn't

uploder said:
Thats weird because it shouldn't
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Yeah I'm just saying based on how long it is saying it will take to charge to full on the lockscreen, when the phone is at the same level.
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Anyone have experience with micro USB to USB c adapters? I'd rather use that and carry around just a few cables
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Robert_W said:
You absolutely can. Just make sure you have a Benson approved cable.
Also, it won't charge as fast as the OEM charger.
The N6 Charger Specs:
Nexus 6 battery is 3220mAh Turbo charger rates:
[email protected]=14.4W (Turbo 2)
[email protected]=14.4W (Turbo 1)
[email protected] =9W (Standard output)
You will only get standard output since the Type-C standard is 5v only. So you will charge at approximately 1.6A rather than the approximate 3A from the Pixel Charger
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Awesome, thanks for the reply! So from what I am understanding, the cable is more important than the charging brick? I charge my phone every night, and I want to avoid fast charging in that scenario since I've heard that Fast Charges create more wear and tear on the battery than a standard charge. That being the case I'd like to use an old standard charging brick (like a samsung one) and then use a certified USB - USB-C cable to charge the phone.

My Nexus 6 block and pixel USB cable does not say charging quickly. It just says charging.
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yankeesfan714 said:
My Nexus 6 block and pixel USB cable does not say charging quickly. It just says charging.
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Wait till the battery is lower, then try again
Google Pixel XL Stop Motion Unboxing Video​

neyenlives said:
Yeah I'm just saying based on how long it is saying it will take to charge to full on the lockscreen, when the phone is at the same level.
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Sometimes those estimations vary quite a bit. Reinserting the plug resets this, and can sometimes change the estimation by a few hours.
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charging issues with most chargers

Every charger i use chargers my pixel xl super slow. I've used the note 7 oem charger, choetech fast charger, aukey fast charger, etc. The only fast charging i can get it with the pixel charger. Anyone else dealing with this?

TechBSwift said:
Every charger i use chargers my pixel xl super slow. I've used the note 7 oem charger, choetech fast charger, aukey fast charger, etc. The only fast charging i can get it with the pixel charger. Anyone else dealing with this?
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From what I've heard neither the Pixel nor Pixel XL support quickcharge or adaptive fast charging. They use something called USB POWER DELIVERY for fast charging, this is the technology that allows generic USB-C chargers to output 100W of power when charging USB-C compatible devices like the new macbook pros or the Chromebook Pixel. So unless u use another charger that support USB power delivery you shouldn't be able to fast charge your Pixel phone.

It has been hit or miss for me. If I use an adaptive fast charger that came with a note7/s7edge I will always get the charging rapidly indicator but charging can be dreadfully slow to somewhat quick.
I am assuming your device will show "charging rapidly" with the Samsung chargers?

To fast charge with the pixel or Nexus phones it has to be a USB c to USB c cable with the adapter being a USB c one. Not USB c to a.

I get rapid charging from my Nexus 6 charger and a USB A to USB C cable. I don't believe it's as fast as the Pixel charger, but it works well enough.
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TechBSwift said:
Every charger i use chargers my pixel xl super slow. I've used the note 7 oem charger, choetech fast charger, aukey fast charger, etc. The only fast charging i can get it with the pixel charger. Anyone else dealing with this?
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As others have stated, the Pixel uses USB TYPE C specification with Power Delivery. It does not and is not compatible with any other type of proprietary fast, quick, rapid charging methods.
You should be able to get 5v 2.4A using the Pixel's cable or any proper cable A to C cable with the proper 56k ohm resister
This is a good thread to look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/chargers-t3476073 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357

clockcycle said:
As others have stated, the Pixel uses USB TYPE C specification with Power Delivery. It does not and is not compatible with any other type of proprietary fast, quick, rapid charging methods.
You should be able to get 5v 2.4A using the Pixel's cable or any proper cable A to C cable with the proper 56k ohm resister
This is a good thread to look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/chargers-t3476073 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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Thanks for the info, this is driving me crazy

imnuts said:
I get rapid charging from my Nexus 6 charger and a USB A to USB C cable. I don't believe it's as fast as the Pixel charger, but it works well enough.
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That's what I am using and can go from 0 to 100 in just a little over 2 hours. Same time with note 7 charger and cable.
Seems pretty fast for me

I wonder why the device reports "charging rapidly" when using a Samsung adaptive fast charger?

Coiled USB-C cables that support QC 3.0?

Hey, have any of you come across any good quality coiled usb c cables? I want one for my car, but all of the ones on amazon have reviews saying thay only support .5A charging speeds.

Slash8915 said:
Hey, have any of you come across any good quality coiled usb c cables? I want one for my car, but all of the ones on amazon have reviews saying thay only support .5A charging speeds.
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I was going to buy this one:
Type C Car Charger, Arctek 33W Dual USB Car Charger w/ Quick Charger 3.0 and Built-In USB-C 5V/3A Cord for Google Pixel, Pixel XL, 6P, 5X, Moto Z Force, LG G5, V20, HTC 10, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019WYHLC4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_C96hybGDA35F0
It's not coiled or a cable only though, but may still interest you?
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spexwood said:
I was going to buy this one:
Type C Car Charger, Arctek 33W Dual USB Car Charger w/ Quick Charger 3.0 and Built-In USB-C 5V/3A Cord for Google Pixel, Pixel XL, 6P, 5X, Moto Z Force, LG G5, V20, HTC 10, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019WYHLC4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_C96hybGDA35F0
It's not coiled or a cable only though, but may still interest you?
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But 5V/3A isn't QC 3.0. It's just standard speeds. So I'd be in the same boat if i wanted to take advantage of the quick charge.

Slash8915 said:
But 5V/3A isn't QC 3.0. It's just standard speeds. So I'd be in the same boat if i wanted to take advantage of the quick charge.
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Its up to 12v. Read the first bullet under Features:
"5V/3A USB Type-C™ Port (Compliance with USB-IF Standard); Quick Charge™ 3.0 USB-A Port (Qualcomm® Certified Quick Charge™ 3.0, 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, and 9-12V/1.5A (Max)"
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No quickcharge usb-c to usb-a ?

Tried a bunch of different Anker quick charge 2.0and 3.0 chargers, samsung charger, and tronsmart qc2.0 charger and it does not seem to want to quickcharge. (all usbc to usba)
Is it only possible to QC over usbc to usbc?
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The pixel doesn't support Qualcomm quick charge.

As mentioned it does not support QC, and yes, the fast charging will only work via Type C. And the 9V/2A charge only works with power delivery enabled chargers.

Thanks for the info . Oh well. Still charges pretty fast on normal chargers.
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Can a Quick Charge 3.0 charger be used with the Pixel 2 XL?

Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!

It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)

CBMC said:
It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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Thank you for your detailed comment. Very helpful!

CBMC said:
It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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Yes, thank you for that info as well!

mcuellar said:
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
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Just go for any chargers with Power delivery, it will work.

Yup. It's my understanding anything that goes from USB-A to USB-C, regardless of what kind of charger it is, will always charge at 1A or less.
Also make sure if you "have" to charge USB-A to USB-C, you don't use a "bad" cable. (see Bensen reviews)

bigblueshock said:
Yup. It's my understanding anything that goes from USB-A to USB-C, regardless of what kind of charger it is, will always charge at 1A or less.
Also make sure if you "have" to charge USB-A to USB-C, you don't use a "bad" cable. (see Bensen reviews)
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My understanding is that you are referring to a cable that is wired for both data and charge. I have several "charge only" A to C cables that are wired different from data / charge cables. These charge my XL quite rapidly.

I believe quick charge 4.0 all also supports power delivery. But, I haven't found a 4.0 charger.
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Here's a good article on trusted A to C cables.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/verified-trusted-list-usb-to-usb-c-t3240969

mcuellar said:
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
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I have been using all my Quick Charge 2 and 3 chargers and the work well.
They don't charge as fast as they did with my Nexus 6, but they are far from slow charging.
I am using these adapters on all my cables and they awesome.
USB Type C Adapter 4 Pack, JS Aluminum USB C to Micro USB Convert Connector with Keychain for Samsung Galaxy S8 New Macbook Pixel XL Nexus 5X 6P LG G5 G6 V20 Nintendo Switch and More(Grey 4 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYR5F2X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fm--zbAXX932S
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Looking for the Quick Charge 3.0 charger for Google Pixel 2 XL ? I am just now using Choetech for my Google Pixel XL . It have an ability to Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C ports. So, you can charge different phablets like Google Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL which are compatible with these ports.