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Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG G5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Great Charging
This is the first phone I have had that would actually increase the charge significantly while navigating using google maps in the daylight. And it increases pretty fast.

My Anker QuickCharge 3.0 charger got my G5 from 0 to 100% in ~75 minutes while on. The same charger port got my spare battery in the cradle fro 0 to 100% in ~3 hours (it only pulled 5V).
After lunch today, I plugged it into a USB 3.0 port on my Lenovo T430, and it got from 60 to 100% in under 30 minutes while pulling over 1.2 amps (way above spec).
I'm happily impressed!

Could be better? Not close to the G4

jamiee6610 said:
Could be better? Not close to the G4
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That's simply not possible unless you are using a non QC 3.0 charger or bad lead.
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stuart0001 said:
That's simply not possible unless you are using a non QC 3.0 charger or bad lead.
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Well i aint going to get in to an argument but 30+ hours on my G4 and 20+ hours on my G5? I think i might have a point?

jamiee6610 said:
Well i aint going to get in to an argument but 30+ hours on my G4 and 20+ hours on my G5? I think i might have a point?
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This thread is about charging speed, not battery life.
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I'm loving the charging speed. It's like night and day compared to the M9 I used to own.

Doesn't seem much faster than speed charge 2.0 at all to me

jamiee6610 said:
Well i aint going to get in to an argument but 30+ hours on my G4 and 20+ hours on my G5? I think i might have a point?
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Remember the G4 had a bigger battery so its only obvious the G4 last longer. But luckily we can buy multiple extra batteries :good:

Dano79 said:
Doesn't seem much faster than speed charge 2.0 at all to me
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As has been discussed elsewhere, QC 3.0 doesn't boost speed much if at all over 2.0. Instead it provides a continuous range of charging voltages (or amps? or whatever) so that it can charge at just the right rate. This should heat the battery less and (in theory, no idea how true/noticeable this will be after a year of use) wear down the battery less because of it.

Dano79 said:
Doesn't seem much faster than speed charge 2.0 at all to me
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Screen off = no difference in speed
Try with screen on then 3.0 is 2-3x as fast as 2.0
This has made a massive difference in the car when my screen stays on.
3.0 charges at a solid 1A with screen on as oppose to 2.0 that only musters 0.3-0.6A depending on phone temperature. ?
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just throwing this in.
acording to Benson Leung LG G5 is not usb type c compliant when it comes to charging.
has anyone here tried charging the G5 using a true usb type c fast charger? i wonder what the outcome might be.
i'll be sad if i have to buy separate chargers just for this phone. (in case i get any true usb type c devices in future i mean)
http://www.xda-developers.com/be-wa...uick-charge-is-not-usb-type-c-spec-compliant/

GottZ said:
just throwing this in.
acording to Benson Leung LG G5 is not usb type c compliant when it comes to charging.
has anyone here tried charging the G5 using a true usb type c fast charger? i wonder what the outcome might be.
i'll be sad if i have to buy separate chargers just for this phone. (in case i get any true usb type c devices in future i mean)
http://www.xda-developers.com/be-wa...uick-charge-is-not-usb-type-c-spec-compliant/
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Charged fine with my 6P charger. About 2A so not full whack, but no issues.
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stuart0001 said:
Charged fine with my 6P charger. About 2A so not full whack, but no issues.
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are you using a cable that contains a 56K resistor?

GottZ said:
are you using a cable that contains a 56K resistor?
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No idea. It's the 1 that came with the 6P so I would expect so.
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GottZ said:
just throwing this in.
acording to Benson Leung LG G5 is not usb type c compliant when it comes to charging.
has anyone here tried charging the G5 using a true usb type c fast charger? i wonder what the outcome might be.
i'll be sad if i have to buy separate chargers just for this phone. (in case i get any true usb type c devices in future i mean)
http://www.xda-developers.com/be-wa...uick-charge-is-not-usb-type-c-spec-compliant/
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Qualcomm's Quick Charge goes outside the USB-C spec in order to be able to charge compatible Quick Charge devices faster (higher voltages when possible).
Dose this meet the USB-C spec, no... Would I be concerned about it, Not if I'm using a reputable QC charger and USB-C cable.
Happy fast charging....

I'll be commenting on these cables and QC3.0 charging on my battery charging thread once I have more data. I have 2 QC3.0 USB wall chargers that I'm collecting data on now. These both have USB-A ports, so they need cable adapters.
But yes, early SPOILER @GottZ: The USB-C compliant cables (USB-A to USB-C) with the resistor limit the benefit of QC3 over QC2. But @stuart0001 does have a point with charging with the screen on.

waylo said:
I'll be commenting on these cables and QC3.0 charging on my battery charging thread once I have more data. I have 2 QC3.0 USB wall chargers that I'm collecting data on now. These both have USB-A ports, so they need cable adapters.
But yes, early SPOILER @GottZ: The USB-C compliant cables (USB-A to USB-C) with the resistor limit the benefit of QC3 over QC2. But @stuart0001 does have a point with charging with the screen on.
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I look forward to your findings.
After further experimentation, QC 2.0 will hit 1A with screen on when below 32deg. So I've found when screen on:
QC 2.0
<32 = 1A
32-35 = 0.6A
35-42 = 0.3A
>42 =? (I haven't tested yet)
QC 3.0 maintains 1A, certainly upto 42. Again, I've not tested higher than that.
This is all with the cable that came with the phone.
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stuart0001 said:
I look forward to your findings.
After further experimentation, QC 2.0 will hit 1A with screen on when below 32deg. So I've found when screen on:
QC 2.0
<32 = 1A
32-35 = 0.6A
35-42 = 0.3A
>42 =? (I haven't tested yet)
QC 3.0 maintains 1A, certainly upto 42. Again, I've not tested higher than that.
This is all with the cable that came with the phone.
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when talking about QC 2/3 you should also mention volt or just combine volts and amps to watts
just talking about amps is like saying A: has 2 inches Ampere and B: has 3 inches Ampere

Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC

Benson Leung said Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC, I wonder what kind of adapter the two phones use. I used a 5v/3a USB C charger and USB C - C cable with my Nexus 6P. Does this adapter and cable work on Google Pixel/Pixel XL?

Will it work? Sure.
Is it the optimal option? No.

Thank you @testinguser. Can't wait to get the phone.

testinguser said:
Will it work? Sure.
Is it the optimal option? No.
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Umm... USB Type C will charge at 3A, no?
Shouldn't it be 5V/3A for the Pixel / Pixel XL also?

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SNH48 said:
Benson Leung said Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC, I wonder what kind of adapter the two phones use. I used a 5v/3a USB C charger and USB C - C cable with my Nexus 6P. Does this adapter and cable work on Google Pixel/Pixel XL?
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Absolutely, USB C is designed to negotiate with the charger how much juice is sent. the pixel works at 5V 3A (15W) and up to 9V 2A (18W), Basically if the plug fits it'll get some sort of charge. There are loads of USB C chargers with PD, the spec goes up to 100W and any charger will provide any device with the maximum it or the device can handle (So a 100W charger will give 18W to the pixel and the Pixels 18W charger will give 18W to a laptop for example)

If you have a true USB-C 5V/3A charger now, it will work fine, but as stated it is not the BEST option. 5V/3A = 15W.
If you buy a USB-PD (Power Delivery) type C charger, it has the capability to charge the Pixel at 9V/2A = 18W, so a 20% faster charge... in a perfect world, instead of 0-50% power in 30 minutes, you'd get 0-50% in 24 minutes. BUT, we don't know how long the phone will charge at 18W. Hopefully to 50%, but it has to cut down current eventually just like all QC chargers, or else it'd damage the battery.
The charger included in the box is USB-PD compliant.

Nitemare3219 said:
If you have a true USB-C 5V/3A charger now, it will work fine, but as stated it is not the BEST option. 5V/3A = 15W.
If you buy a USB-PD (Power Delivery) type C charger, it has the capability to charge the Pixel at 9V/2A = 18W, so a 20% faster charge... in a perfect world, instead of 0-50% power in 30 minutes, you'd get 0-50% in 24 minutes. BUT, we don't know how long the phone will charge at 18W. Hopefully to 50%, but it has to cut down current eventually just like all QC chargers, or else it'd damage the battery.
The charger included in the box is USB-PD compliant.
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Great info. Now I wonder if the Tronsmart W2PTE will charge at 9V/2A...
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)
USB A port outpout:5V/2.4A(MAX)
Technically it has the ability to, but I wonder if it can.

bigblueshock said:
Great info. Now I wonder if the Tronsmart W2PTE will charge at 9V/2A...
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)
USB A port outpout:5V/2.4A(MAX)
Technically it has the ability to, but I wonder if it can.
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My guess is no because that is relying on a QuickCharge handshake to occur between the device and charger. Pixels will use USB Power Delivery which is an entirely different specification. It'd be great if it does, but I highly doubt it.

It seems even the ones on Amazon that are PD units all are either 15w (5x3) or have the 9x2 spec but don't actually show it as addressable in handshake.
I just want to give someone my money and I am getting upset that I don't have anyone to give it to...

@bigblueshock It seems Tronsmart W2PTE not a 9v/2a PD charger, I saw Choetech has a 29w USB C PD charger
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-CHOETECH-Power-Delivery-MacBook/dp/B01HZ61WWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475906398&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+29W+PD+charger
Specification:
Input: 100V-240V AC 50/60Hz 0.7A
Output: 5V3A/9V2A/14.5V2A
I may try this one

Great Phone, I am thinking to buy it.

uhh, QC3 supports both 5v3a and 9v2a. I use my QC3 charger with my Pixel C and it rapid charges.
The same will most likely be true for the pixel phones

I think it still doesn't work because the difference is in the protocol for handshake, not a limitation in the ranges of current.
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Wouldn't it be nice if the phone could say what it was receiving and how it had negotiated? I've accumulated quite a few mains chargers, power banks and cigarette lighter adapters.
A QC2.0 PSU makes my Pixel XL say charging rapidly, but it doesn't say how rapid. Another mains charger said charging slowly, which was odd (you'd expect that from an unpowered USB hub) and others just say Charging.
How are you supposed to know what's what? The supplied PSU says Charging Rapidly, but clearly it's more rapid.
Even just putting it as an option in the developer menu would be good enough. It would then enable me to check all my various adapters and establish what does what.
Wouldn't it have been nice to just have one standard?!

jonmorris said:
Wouldn't it be nice if the phone could say what it was receiving and how it had negotiated? I've accumulated quite a few mains chargers, power banks and cigarette lighter adapters.
A QC2.0 PSU makes my Pixel XL say charging rapidly, but it doesn't say how rapid. Another mains charger said charging slowly, which was odd (you'd expect that from an unpowered USB hub) and others just say Charging.
How are you supposed to know what's what? The supplied PSU says Charging Rapidly, but clearly it's more rapid.
Even just putting it as an option in the developer menu would be good enough. It would then enable me to check all my various adapters and establish what does what.
Wouldn't it have been nice to just have one standard?!
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There are special USB adapters that you plug between phone and charger that will tell you what it's using and what the voltage and amps are.

I'm seeing unexplainable results, like faster charging from my old Motorola Nexus 6 Turbo Charger than with the included Pixel charger....
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alexjzim said:
uhh, QC3 supports both 5v3a and 9v2a. I use my QC3 charger with my Pixel C and it rapid charges.
The same will most likely be true for the pixel phones
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I can second this. Plugging it in to a QC3.0 type C charger (like the HTC 10 has) displays a "charging rapidly" notifier on the lockscreen.

robstunner said:
I can second this. Plugging it in to a QC3.0 type C charger (like the HTC 10 has) displays a "charging rapidly" notifier on the lockscreen.
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But that doesn't actually MEAN anything. I had a bad car charger that would overheat easily over time. My Nexus 6P would say "charging rapidly" and Ampere would show 100mAh, charge completion time was over 3 hours, etc.
Google designed the phone for USB-PD, nothing else. QC 3.0 does work with this phone. Unless someone uses a USB power meter and posts solid numbers like mentioned in a previous post, people need to stop posting this ****.

Nitemare3219 said:
But that doesn't actually MEAN anything. I had a bad car charger that would overheat easily over time. My Nexus 6P would say "charging rapidly" and Ampere would show 100mAh, charge completion time was over 3 hours, etc.
Google designed the phone for USB-PD, nothing else. QC 3.0 does work with this phone. Unless someone uses a USB power meter and posts solid numbers like mentioned in a previous post, people need to stop posting this ****.
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I'll try it tonight with ampere. I remember seeing 1100mah, which isn't much but I'll report back.
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Can a Quick Charge 3.0 charger be used with the Pixel 2 XL?

Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!

It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)

CBMC said:
It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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Thank you for your detailed comment. Very helpful!

CBMC said:
It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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Yes, thank you for that info as well!

mcuellar said:
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
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Just go for any chargers with Power delivery, it will work.

Yup. It's my understanding anything that goes from USB-A to USB-C, regardless of what kind of charger it is, will always charge at 1A or less.
Also make sure if you "have" to charge USB-A to USB-C, you don't use a "bad" cable. (see Bensen reviews)

bigblueshock said:
Yup. It's my understanding anything that goes from USB-A to USB-C, regardless of what kind of charger it is, will always charge at 1A or less.
Also make sure if you "have" to charge USB-A to USB-C, you don't use a "bad" cable. (see Bensen reviews)
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My understanding is that you are referring to a cable that is wired for both data and charge. I have several "charge only" A to C cables that are wired different from data / charge cables. These charge my XL quite rapidly.

I believe quick charge 4.0 all also supports power delivery. But, I haven't found a 4.0 charger.
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Here's a good article on trusted A to C cables.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/verified-trusted-list-usb-to-usb-c-t3240969

mcuellar said:
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
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I have been using all my Quick Charge 2 and 3 chargers and the work well.
They don't charge as fast as they did with my Nexus 6, but they are far from slow charging.
I am using these adapters on all my cables and they awesome.
USB Type C Adapter 4 Pack, JS Aluminum USB C to Micro USB Convert Connector with Keychain for Samsung Galaxy S8 New Macbook Pixel XL Nexus 5X 6P LG G5 G6 V20 Nintendo Switch and More(Grey 4 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYR5F2X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fm--zbAXX932S
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Looking for the Quick Charge 3.0 charger for Google Pixel 2 XL ? I am just now using Choetech for my Google Pixel XL . It have an ability to Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C ports. So, you can charge different phablets like Google Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL which are compatible with these ports.

USB-C chargers with QC3 work fine with the Pixel2XL?

Hi,
I have 2 chargers that I used with my older phone, both are QC3 compatible, USB-C port and 1 of them can deliver 5/9/12 volts.
no matter if I use 1 of them or the charger that came with the pixel2xl I see (in Ampere app) it always charging at around 5V and 1A.
does it mean that any of them is good? is it possible to charge it even faster?
the charging speed is pretty much ok I think.

QC3 will not do anything but charge at standard speeds. This device is power delivery. QC4 will be compatible with power delivery, but good luck finding a QC4 charger.
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Don_Perrignon said:
QC3 will not do anything but charge at standard speeds. This device is power delivery. QC4 will be compatible with power delivery, but good luck finding a QC4 charger.
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You mean Google sends an old style charger with the phone? Instead of the kind that the phone is designed for?

wtherrell said:
You mean Google sends an old style charger with the phone? Instead of the kind that the phone is designed for?
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No. It comes with a Power Delivery charger, the phone is a Power Delivery device.
QC3 and below will charge at a standard (slower) speed. QC4 is compatible with QC and Power Delivery - but, at this time there is no QC4 chargers, oddly.
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wtherrell said:
You mean Google sends an old style charger with the phone? Instead of the kind that the phone is designed for?
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google use PD standard instead of QC
so if you want fast charging
get your self a PD charger
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dimiboy said:
Hi,
I have 2 chargers that I used with my older phone, both are QC3 compatible, USB-C port and 1 of them can deliver 5/9/12 volts.
no matter if I use 1 of them or the charger that came with the pixel2xl I see (in Ampere app) it always charging at around 5V and 1A.
does it mean that any of them is good? is it possible to charge it even faster?
the charging speed is pretty much ok I think.
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pd charger if you want fast charging

The OP said that using the charger that came with the Pixel 2xl still charged no faster than the older ones (5v 1A) or did I misread the post?

wtherrell said:
The OP said that using the charger that came with the Pixel 2xl still charged no faster than the older ones (5v 1A) or did I misread the post?
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He said many other things, too.
I think constantly charging with the screen off helps with the charging speed. It shouldn't, but reading other threads has me thinking this. I also, think his phone is faulty.
He also said he thinks the speed is ok.
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For the heck of it, I tried the OEM charger with the Ampere app, and it was showing basically 5v at 1 amp. Tried the usb A port on my power strip that does 5v at 2.4 amps, and it read the same 5V at 1 amp. The 1 amp port on the power strip gave a reading closer to 4v at 1 amp.
Not sure what the data source is for the app because the OEM charger definitely charges quickly. I have no doubt the OEM is doing 9 volts at 2 amps. Or something definitely higher than 5v at 2.4 amps. I am assuming it is a net figure being measured somewhere not in the line from the port, since it'll also show the discharge when unplugged. So this is not the power coming into the phone.

So as far as I checked, everything is charging well.
The problem is that if you will install few other Ampere measuring programs, some will reveal that they don't have access to the sensor of the phone so the data isn't accurate.
so, we can hope it's ok. sadly I can't find anywhere a physical USB-C Ampere meter to buy for now.

Voicebox said:
For the heck of it, I tried the OEM charger with the Ampere app, and it was showing basically 5v at 1 amp. Tried the usb A port on my power strip that does 5v at 2.4 amps, and it read the same 5V at 1 amp. The 1 amp port on the power strip gave a reading closer to 4v at 1 amp.
Not sure what the data source is for the app because the OEM charger definitely charges quickly. I have no doubt the OEM is doing 9 volts at 2 amps. Or something definitely higher than 5v at 2.4 amps. I am assuming it is a net figure being measured somewhere not in the line from the port, since it'll also show the discharge when unplugged. So this is not the power coming into the phone.
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Nathan k over on Google+ has done some tests with the new pixel 2xl. You can see his results there, and yes, the charge rate absolutely slows down with screen on.

CBMC said:
Nathan k over on Google+ has done some tests with the new pixel 2xl. You can see his results there, and yes, the charge rate absolutely slows down with screen on.
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Yeah, I would assume slower rate with screen on, but would it reduce from 9 volts at 2 amps from the OEM charger, to showing only 5 volts at 1 amp? Mine does seem to slow noticeably, but that'd be a big change. Unless it specifically drops the incoming power down when the screen goes on.
I think someone needs to throw down the $25 to get an in line USB C meter to just measure. I almost did yesterday, but got too busy to read the reviews of the ones available.

Voicebox said:
Yeah, I would assume slower rate with screen on, but would it reduce from 9 volts at 2 amps from the OEM charger, to showing only 5 volts at 1 amp? Mine does seem to slow noticeably, but that'd be a big change. Unless it specifically drops the incoming power down when the screen goes on.
I think someone needs to throw down the $25 to get an in line USB C meter to just measure. I almost did yesterday, but got too busy to read the reviews of the ones available.
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Check out Nathan k. On Google+. He measured wattage from empty to full with screen on. He also did some tests at load.

CBMC said:
Check out Nathan k. On Google+. He measured wattage from empty to full with screen on. He also did some tests at load.
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Yeah, thanks. I'm not on Google + and I tried searching earlier and some usb C groups popped up, and they had so much unrelated stuff I just stopped looking.

does anyone know if using QC3 or say an older Nexus 6p charger really hurts the Pixel 2 XL? I keep hearing X and Y chargers shouldnt be used on the Pixel 2 XL..but does it really matter? is the only downside slower charging? or can you really hurt the battery?

phyl0x said:
does anyone know if using QC3 or say an older Nexus 6p charger really hurts the Pixel 2 XL? I keep hearing X and Y chargers shouldnt be used on the Pixel 2 XL..but does it really matter? is the only downside slower charging? or can you really hurt the battery?
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I have used many different types of chargers with no issue.
Nexus 6
Samsung Note 5
Chromecast
Asus that was used for my old dock stations
Generic USB plug in my desk powerbar (likely 5V 1a standard)
QC3 car charger
PD car charger
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Question re: cable for Pixel 2XL

I am LOVING my Pixel 2XL as a previous iPhone user but I am needing assistance on power cables. I am used to the usual lightning cable that is used with my previous iPhone but my Pixel 2XL came with just a USB-C cable. What cable would I need to connect the 2XL to my laptop which only has regular USB cable slots?

OU812_ said:
I am LOVING my Pixel 2XL as a previous iPhone user but I am needing assistance on power cables. I am used to the usual lightning cable that is used with my previous iPhone but my Pixel 2XL came with just a USB-C cable. What cable would I need to connect the 2XL to my laptop which only has regular USB cable slots?
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You should be able to connect it with that cable. The end that plugs into the laptop/PC is the standard USB type; it's the end that plugs into the phone that's USB-C.

The others are incorrect. The phone comes with a usb-c to usb-c cable. What you need for your regular usb ports is usb-c to usb-a. Such as https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics...sb+a+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=41wgZRjwXYL&ref=plSrch
This one worked for me.

Nergal di Cuthah said:
The others are incorrect. The phone comes with a usb-c to usb-c cable. What you need for your regular usb ports is usb-c to usb-a. Such as https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics...sb+a+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=41wgZRjwXYL&ref=plSrch
This one worked for me.
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Thank-you for this.
So in regards to actual quick charge: that is only capable using the plug adapter and USB C cable, correct? I will not be able to get a quick charge if I use the USB ports on my laptop...?

OU812_ said:
Thank-you for this.
So in regards to actual quick charge: that is only capable using the plug adapter and USB C cable, correct? I will not be able to get a quick charge if I use the USB ports on my laptop...?
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Correct quick charge will only happen using a usb-c to usb-c cord (and, knowing google, the actual charger) like what came with the phone.

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Correct quick charge will only happen using a usb-c to usb-c cord (and, knowing google, the actual charger) like what came with the phone.
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So the plug-in adapter from Google is the only one that will do a quick charge? An aftermarket one won't do it?
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Correct, unless the aftermarket charger supports USB-C power delivery. Qualcomm quick charge is not sufficient in this case.

So for those that charge their Pixel 2XL through the usb port on a laptop - how long does it take to charge your phone?
I ask because using a USB A to USB C cable plugged into my laptop seems to take forever. I hate to say it but my iPhone charged faster. Am I doing something wrong?
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OU812_ said:
So for those that charge their Pixel 2XL through the usb port on a laptop - how long does it take to charge your phone?
I ask because using a USB A to USB C cable plugged into my laptop seems to take forever. I hate to say it but my iPhone charged faster. Am I doing something wrong?
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What you're doing wrong is not spending the extra funds to get a proper charger. USB ports on a PC are limited to 500mAh, thus charging will take an extremely long time. Some laptops do have a USB port designed to output a higher amperage, but they don't output the minimum of 2 amps used in smartphone chargers from the last five years.
If you don't have a proper charger, get one.

I was thinking of getting a battery pack. Is there one that has the capability of fast charging the Pixel 2xl and an iPad at the same time?
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I was thinking of getting a battery pack. Is there one that has the capability of fast charging the Pixel 2xl and an iPad at the same time?
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Research the Power Delivery (PD) specification. Then research PD power banks. There are many that output > 30W but it's doubtful you could charge both devices rapidly at the same time... but the PD power bank would charge either device rapidly. If you really need to charge both devices at the maximum rate simultaneously, you would be better off with a capable PD wall charger. There is also a P2XL "Accessories" section here where you will find more information on cables, chargers and power banks.

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If you really need to charge both devices at the maximum rate simultaneously, you would be better off with a capable PD wall charger.
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Indeed. I'm curious as to why @OU812_ is so resistant to getting a proper charger. It's the right tool for the job.

I just like the ease of charging through the laptop at my desk.
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OU812_ said:
I just like the ease of charging through the laptop at my desk.
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Then use a USB-A to USB-C cable and accept the slow charging rate. Your laptop's USB power output is the limiting factor here, not the cable. You will need a PD charger (or power bank) to charge rapidly.

With USB-C still not as common as MicroUSB, are there any power banks with Power Delivery?

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
With USB-C still not as common as MicroUSB, are there any power banks with Power Delivery?
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Absolutely. If you are in the market be sure you confirm the powerbank allows USB-C both input & output so you can use your PD wall charger to top it off. The first generation power banks only allowed PD output, and you had to use the slower microUSB to charge. I've got my eye on THIS ONE. Just waiting for a price drop. :good:

Well I'm not in the market, but thanks for the information. I simply hadn't seen or heard of any.

Would this charger be suitable to allow quick charging?
https://www.amazon.ca/Charge-Anker-...+c+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=317lJjHWUnL&ref=plSrch
What exactly would I be looking for in a charger that would allow quick charge for the 2xl? Also, will any usb-a to usb-c cable be suitable or it also has to have certain prerequisites to allow fast charging?
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OU812_ said:
Would this charger be suitable to allow quick charging?
https://www.amazon.ca/Charge-Anker-...+c+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=317lJjHWUnL&ref=plSrch
What exactly would I be looking for in a charger that would allow quick charge for the 2xl? Also, will any usb-a to usb-c cable be suitable or it also has to have certain prerequisites to allow fast charging?
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Afaik only usb c to usb c will fast charge
You answered your own question earlier
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Thank-you for this.
So in regards to actual quick charge: that is only capable using the plug adapter and USB C cable, correct? I will not be able to get a quick charge if I use the USB ports on my laptop...?
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OU812_ said:
I was thinking of getting a battery pack. Is there one that has the capability of fast charging the Pixel 2xl and an iPad at the same time?
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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What iPad model do you have? Some of them support USB-PD for fast charging via USB Type C, but not all of them do. If it does support USB-PD fast charging, find a powerbank that supports it and you should have no issues. (Pixel 2 XL can use USB-PD as well)