Pixel and USB OTG - FAT32 vs exFAT - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

Has anyone else tried using the included USB-C to A adapter to mount a flash drive? The phone recognizes it fine, but seems to only be able to read FAT32 formatting. I have other Android devices that can read exFAT just fine via an OTG cable. One of the reasons I was ok with getting the Pixel XL which doesn't have a MicroSD slot is that I assumed I would be able to hook up a flash drive if I wanted to watch some larger video files. I often have video files that exceed the file size limit of FAT32, so that format is not really an option.

I didn't realize the USB-C to USB-A connector was USB OTG. Thanks.
I tried a thumb drive first formatted to FAT32. It worked fine and I could access the files on it. Then I reformatted the thumb drive to exFAT, copied some files over to it, and then tried it. Nope. I remembered that I bought a file explorer for my N5 (it wouldn't mount the thumb drive) to allow USB OTG without root. So searched through my apps and found it....... USB Media Explorer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en It is a paid app. It advertises FAT/FAT32, NTFS or Ext2/3/4, but it did work with exFAT. The interface wasn't the most intuitive. I went to folders and saw the music there. It was easy to play the music on the thumb drive. It took a little bit to figure out how to copy a song to the Pixel memory (have to select the song and then a copy looking icon pops up). I haven't figured out how to copy a complete folder yet although it must be possible. There were a few other apps on the Play Store that looked similar. I only tried this one since I had previously purchased it.

mtucker said:
I didn't realize the USB-C to USB-A connector was USB OTG. Thanks.
I tried a thumb drive first formatted to FAT32. It worked fine and I could access the files on it. Then I reformatted the thumb drive to exFAT, copied some files over to it, and then tried it. Nope. I remembered that I bought a file explorer for my N5 (it wouldn't mount the thumb drive) to allow USB OTG without root. So searched through my apps and found it....... USB Media Explorer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en It is a paid app. It advertises FAT/FAT32, NTFS or Ext2/3/4, but it did work with exFAT. The interface wasn't the most intuitive. I went to folders and saw the music there. It was easy to play the music on the thumb drive. It took a little bit to figure out how to copy a song to the Pixel memory (have to select the song and then a copy looking icon pops up). I haven't figured out how to copy a complete folder yet although it must be possible. There were a few other apps on the Play Store that looked similar. I only tried this one since I had previously purchased it.
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Thanks, that app did work to be able to view the files on exfat formatted USB drive. For some reason playback of a video file is really slow (buffers a LOT) if playing directly from the drive. A bit odd, since copying a file to the phones internal storage didn't take too long, about a minute for a 500 Mb file. Not anywhere near USB 3 "normal" speeds, but not terrible. I found one other app on the play store that was also able to read the USB drive, but had the same performance. I will test formatted as FAT32 later and see if there is a difference.

This non-supporting of exFAT clearly shows Google is tying to push us to store everything about us on the Google Drive so that they can monitor everything about us... Is your thumb drive usb3 compatible? If so and you're not getting the 'normal' speeds, that's another sign. We better watch out. They will eventually force us to use their proprietary app like iTunes to transfer files between Pixels and PCs.
Seriously, though, I need a way to quickly sync my photos and videos from my DLSR.

mrhds said:
Thanks, that app did work to be able to view the files on exfat formatted USB drive. For some reason playback of a video file is really slow (buffers a LOT) if playing directly from the drive. A bit odd, since copying a file to the phones internal storage didn't take too long, about a minute for a 500 Mb file. Not anywhere near USB 3 "normal" speeds, but not terrible. I found one other app on the play store that was also able to read the USB drive, but had the same performance. I will test formatted as FAT32 later and see if there is a difference.
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Actually a minute for a 500MB file IS a lot.
Which USB pen drive is it?

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Actually a minute for a 500MB file IS a lot.
Which USB pen drive is it?
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Agreed.
My tests showed a similar result with Kingston 64GB Data Traveler Micro Duo as well as Sandisk Ultra 64GB using FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. For comparison, my Nexus 6P transferred the same file approximately twice as fast.
I was a little disappointed by the lack of native support for formats other than FAT32 and this issue makes the file-size workaround less than desirable. Otherwise, my pixel xl seems to perform as expected.
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Struggling with this as well, I foolishly bought the 32GB Pixel XL and constantly run out of space so for large file storage I bought a 64GB Sandisk usb drive (3.0, one of those tiny thumbnail sized dongles) and it works but the transfer speed is maxing out at 2mb/s! It takes around 30 minutes to transfer a 2GB file; I manage but it's pretty unacceptable for a 3.0 device (using the Google provided C to A) and it drains the battery like mad!
Any more thoughts on this? I'm struggling to find an answer (read: fix).
Thanks friends,

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Struggling with this as well, I foolishly bought the 32GB Pixel XL and constantly run out of space so for large file storage I bought a 64GB Sandisk usb drive (3.0, one of those tiny thumbnail sized dongles) and it works but the transfer speed is maxing out at 2mb/s! It takes around 30 minutes to transfer a 2GB file; I manage but it's pretty unacceptable for a 3.0 device (using the Google provided C to A) and it drains the battery like mad!
Any more thoughts on this? I'm struggling to find an answer (read: fix).
Thanks friends,
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I did some more testing now that Google has had a year of software updates. Unfortunately, even on 8.1 December update, it seems FAT32 is still the only supported format, and the speeds are just as slow. I could only get about 15 Mb/sec. Thats using a high end aftermarket USB-C -> A adapter, and a 128 GB Sandisk USB 3 memory stick. This same adapter and memory stick can transfer well above 150 Mb/sec on a PC.

exFAT is a proprietary file system created and owned by Microsoft. Google did not pay Microsoft for the use of it on Pixel phones.

So exFAT can technically work if you Install Solid Explorer (free trial then $2 lifetime fee InApp Purchase, in my opinion well worth it as it's Solid) and their Solid Explorer USB OTG Plugin. Full Read/Write access for Fat32 and exFAT, NTFS Read only support. I actually loaded up my 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Flash Drive (exFAT formatted from Windows 10 pc), and took it on a trip with me to Disney World, so I could load movies and unload pictures of the family. I do have a 128GB Pixel XL, however I have a huge music collection I prefer offline, and ironically a lot of DayDream VR Experiences (it is space-consuming for offline copies such as Discovery VR etc, so those add up a Lot, but it does make for best experience as it is very heavy bandwidth dependent over wifi).
The USB 3.0 in my opinion doesn't exist for OTG, or at least with this adapter, I do have another adapter I think I'll try in a moment. However what I want to say is this flash Reads up to 245 MB/s and Writes at up to 190 MB/s, I usually average 100 - 200 on my pc. On this flash drive, just copying a file to phone from flash drive over exFAT apparently is limited to 0.5 MB/s. In other words it's going to take nearly 2 hours to copy over a 2.5 Gb file. It can still copy over with screen off, but I was thought it was ridiculous how much battery would be consumed and kept thinking if issue was UFS storage or drivers. I am on Android 8.0 November, will update to 8.1 clean install this week when February 2018 comes out. This actually did cause an issue for me using the original usb c to a cable on my pc, where it doesn't work and I have to use a specific usb c to a (2.0 version), which is still much faster than this. That issue though is because I 'dirty flashed' 8.0 over 7.1.2 without wiping. Only bug so far from that.

Not sure if the app was updated to support it or if Android 8.1 now supports it natively, but I'm able to access a flash drive via my phone using the adapter and File Manager by "Flashlight + Clock".
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
Cheers!

Are you sure? I just tried it and it told me it doesn't support exFAT

Hi could anyone give a clear answer about use of OTG with Google Pixel XL: I read all about Google not supporting the exFAT format (someone said because they wouldn't pay Microsoft to license the tech), and that Pixel users are stuck with super slow transfer speeds, and file limitation sizes of FAT32. Someone else mentioned somewhere about Host Mode, and I'm finding it way harder than seems logical to get some definitive answer: If I can't get fast OTG transfer speeds with the Pixel, then I have to pass on its high quality camera and go with an inferior phone that has microUSB.
Can someone help me out with this please? Thank you much.

mrhds said:
Has anyone else tried using the included USB-C to A adapter to mount a flash drive? The phone recognizes it fine, but seems to only be able to read FAT32 formatting. I have other Android devices that can read exFAT just fine via an OTG cable. One of the reasons I was ok with getting the Pixel XL which doesn't have a MicroSD slot is that I assumed I would be able to hook up a flash drive if I wanted to watch some larger video files. I often have video files that exceed the file size limit of FAT32, so that format is not really an option.
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Try JS USB OTG app. I use this to play big video files with MxPlayer in SW mode, without rooting and the app doesn't seem to stream video like other apps, you can go back or forward without any problems.

it always seems when there is any issue and someone ""tried"" an app and blah blah .. its always an app that needs to be PAID TO USE !!!! crack me up just makes me want to find the paid ""free"" version through a google search

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3G's USB port seems to work with everything

Hi,
In january/february, i bought a USB keyboard with an USB adaptater to use it with my tablet.
I tried to plug it in the 3G's usb port, it did'nt worked, and because last week I broken it, and I updated my tab to ICS, I tried to plug my keyboard in the 3G port, and it worked !
Maybe it's because of ICS ?
Also, my keyboard has also an usb hub, it works too !
Mine seemed to work from the the start with Rom version: 3.2.69 and that's on 2 different G9 101, however others result have varied and it seems a bit hit and miss to say exactly what's going on.
I know there are 2 different versions of the 10" G9 - A101S and A101H , I've not dug too deep into it and I'm not 100% and what the differences are.
I think ICS generally improved the Usb Host support/integration which is always welcome.
Now I just need a large bag to transfer all these extra devices for my "portable tablet".
Mine won't see USB drives/camera cards formatted to FAT32. No big deal.
Actually, it did connect with my phone and its 16GB microSD card, so I'm happily mistaken.
From the ICS "firmware" update change log:
Archos 80/101 G9
Firmware changes
Version 4.0.4 - March 8th, 2012
Initial Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 firmware release
MediaCenter Video: support for MKV3D on TV with automatic switch to best 3D mode
MediaCenter Video: allow to disable system notifications in video player
MediaCenter Video: collection of VOB files from DVD are now gathered into a single movie item
MediaCenter Music: integrate Music control panel in Lock Screen
MediaCenter info dialog: allow to edit the name used for performing the Movie and TVShow online search
File Manager: display a notification when file copy continues in background
File Manager: improved drag and drop support
File Manager: new option to prevent indexing of some storage/sdcard folders by multimedia library
Applications: more robust video conferencing support (Google talk, Skype etc.)
USB file transfer: a samba server is now activated on the tablet when using USB network tethering for easier file transfer on non Windows based hosts [Samba for "non Windows"??? Something bass-ackwards about that ...]
Archos widgets: new USB network tether widget [Anyone know if this means it will tether off a phone this way ala older Archos models like the 5 or 43 , or is this meant to "share" its internet connection (however it would obtain it, even if not "3G-enabled" - which seems useless)]
External Keyboard: french layout has been expanded to handle AtlGr keys for special symbols
Accessories: Xbox gamepad support
Maybe I shoulda hung on to the new 80 I bought a week ago, and returned after trying it out for a few days. The inability to get the back/3G USB port and MTP tools to work was a big factor in my return decision (along with no network tether option as the 5 and 43 had, and the reality check on the initial Staples web page claiming 1GB RAM - hope springs eternal...)
FWIW,
R
@rokkywoof I think that it's for the micro usb port, because this oen is meant to be an OTG micro usb port, and the original usb port is just for the 3G, but maybe they failed and applied the stuff to the 3G's port?
@Telyx/trevd wow that's strange !
I saw that the A80S (A101S) are the archos with flash memory (8 or 16gb), and the A80H/A101H are the archos with the Hard drive (H for Hard drive )
Telyx said:
Mine won't see USB drives/camera cards formatted to FAT32. No big deal.
Actually, it did connect with my phone and its 16GB microSD card, so I'm happily mistaken.
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Is this true? This is the main reason why I was planning on getting this tablet this week because it is (or so I thought) that would have been able to transfer raw files from my CF cards to the internal hd, and backed up on an external HD. I shoot about 300gig a week while on the road.
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It works fine... just have to turn on the "3G Stick" port, then wait a moment before plugging the camera, phone, thumb drive, card reader, etc. in. One camera connects like a thumb drive (mount the "drive" manually and open the folder in the file explorer), the other launches the Gallery app to allow me to import pictures.
Telyx said:
It works fine... just have to turn on the "3G Stick" port, then wait a moment before plugging the camera, phone, thumb drive, card reader, etc. in. One camera connects like a thumb drive (mount the "drive" manually and open the folder in the file explorer), the other launches the Gallery app to allow me to import pictures.
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Thank you thats what I needed to do turn on 3G in settings and now it all works
3G's USB seems to work with nearly Everything
Hi @ll,
I also tried to get USB devices to work, no problem with USB-Sticks, but USB-HDD's (selfpowered) seem not to Work (neither on Stock image nor on Cyanogenmod). The HDD starts turning but Android doesn't mount it. Can someone give me some pointers?
My Specs:
Archos G9 80 Turbo HDD with an USB-HDD (USB 3.0 (should be backwards compatible)) by Toshiba
Thanks
I would bet the tablet is not able to supply enough power to actually start the USB HD up.
Remember that usb port was designed to be used with Archos' 3G cell stick and really wasn't meant to be hooked up to other things.
If the port is enabled, there is allways power for the hdd, also for a stick a mouse. But some keybords may not work (I don't figure it out).
The app USB OTG Helper will help to mount the hdd/stick.
I used a friends powered usb hub (dlink dub-h7) and was able to use both my keyboard and mouse with my tablet unfortunately my usb thumb drives dont work when attached to the usb hub however they do work when attached to the hub I didnt have my powered usb hard drive with me to test
Powered Hub
usb2lan-adapter?
Hi,
Just bought a G9 101 turbo to play with.
stock 4.0.25 ROOTED flashed and it's hanging nice on my tv.
Can anyone tell me/give me advise if there's any usb-lan adapter that works?
Would love to use a cable instead of the wifi...
THANKS!
--- EDIT ---
- Found something:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...between-an-archos-g9-android-4-0-wifi-and-a-l
- probaly will get me a thing like this:
http://star01.en.made-in-china.com/product/UqjmkZcOATri/China-USB-1-1-LAN-Card-Adapter.html

[Q] Sd Card and File Managers

Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
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Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
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1. Sadly, no. This is a point of annoyance for me, actually, since it means you cannot install apps/games to the USB drive as you could
with an SD card.
2. As for file managers, the OUYA does not have any built in but you can go to the "Make" menu and open the web browser. From there you can web search for an ES File Explorer APK (or create a backup on your phone and send it to dropbox, then access it from your browser).
a. I personally used my browser to install Box and Dropbox so that I can backup apps from my phone and send them to my browser.
It makes the side-loading process easier. I now have Amazon app store, emulators like N64oid and XBMC on my OUYA.
As for being on a Mac, I am not sure how formatting works on that.
UPDATE (just now haha): I will be trying this to see if it can be used to move apps to a USB stick. That would be brilliant! Will update with results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Cheers!
I've create a single fat32 partition with the default settings in linux/KDE on my drive. When I connect the drive to ouya using USB, it gets mounted at /mnt/usbdrive. I can see in the logcat output vold handling all the mounting the same as it would for an SD card. There are no other signs though, that anything is being mounted. There is no environmental variables like EXTERNAL_STORAGE pointing to this location. It does not appear in the settings->storage menu like it does on other devices. You kind of just have to know where it is and then you can browse to that location in your apps.
I'm in the same boat. I'm sitting here trying to get my 500gb 2.5" portable laptop HDD to load with my roms. At first I thought it was because of NFTS. So I formatted. Nothing. Then I wiped all the partitions into 1 huge exFat partition. Nothing. Plugged in my 32gb USB Stick that is NTFS. Nothing. Grabbed a MicroSD-USB adapter and used my 16gb from my MK808. Nothing. Grabbed my old 16gb and reformatted it as FAT32. Nothing.
Nothing is reading on my Ouya. Wtf?
None of my apps are reading anything.
It cant be exfat; it cant be NTFS. You need to make it fat32. There's something in windoze where it refuses to create a fat32 partition over a certain size, but you can do it on just about any other computer. You can make your whole 500GB hard drive fat32 and ouya will see it fine. Or you can wait until we have more development to enable ntfs support. Don't hold your breath for exfat, since M$ is charging big licensing fees for it.
No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.
player911 said:
No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.
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How are you trying to test if they work? Because MOST people's problem is that it doesn't show up on the OUYA itself, it's all app specific and there is no directions built in to find USB storage at this time.
Grab a USB Keyboard or Mouse and try that to see if it works, at least that way you can rule out a bad USB port.
I've tried multiple different USB devices all with 0 problems and it seems like the people who go through 3 or 4+ different ones just don't know where to look.
I'm NOT saying this is your problem exactly or that you're dumb in anyway, you may have a bad unit, just trying to help with what I've observed while helping others on this forum.
And to address the FAT32 vs NTFS: Plenty of people have confirmed that NTFS works, including myself. It was rumored at the beginning that only FAT32 worked, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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player911 said:
Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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Good luck! At least you can always take it back to gamestop once they ahve another one to get it, but I hope it doesn't come down to it for you!
Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
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Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset. Here is the quote I posted from the Ouya Forums:
Player911 said:
Well I just fixed it!!!
I just got my OUYA yesterday and immediately threw on my 640gb HDD but it wouldn't see it. I kept screwing with it and screwing with it. Nothing. 32gb Flash drive. Nothing. 16gb Flash Drive. Nothing. 16gb microSD-USB. Nothing. I screwed with Fat32, NTFS. Nothing worked! I thought my USB was blown. Someone suggested trying a USB device so I used my PS3 controller. BOOM. Worked. USB Storage... Nothing.
I'm an IT Admin with a N7 and a Galaxy Nexus. I know my way around.
Well in this thread, I saw someone did a Factory Reset and that worked. WTH right? So I did a factory reset and low and behold, my HDD is reading like a champ.
So if you have USB HDD issues, use the Formatter Tool to format it to FAT32: http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?...ll=1#post35834
If that doesn't work. Factory Reset and set it back up!
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player911 said:
Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
EDIT!!!!!!!!
Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset.
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Glad you go it working! Makes me wonder what the problem was in the first place, since it worked for HID but not storage. Maybe bad install or update of drivers.
I dunno. First thing it did when I turned it on was an update. I've spent all day screwing with it and dredging through forums. There are tons of people who have had issues after the last update, where it WAS working and magically stopped. So I'm thinking it was a firmware issues, perhaps something they changed. Since mine was probably used, perhaps it had drivers in there and got screwed up after the update. Who knows.
I do plan on swapping this out with a new one as soon as Gamestop has them in stock, since he was so kind to give me a 1 yr warranty. The USB port isn't tight and the connections feels sloppy. At first I was thinking that it wasn't making a good connection. For all I know, someone had an early edition and swapped it out with a new release day model. Like you said, something makes me wonder. I don't want anything else to happen down the road because of mal-use of a previous owner.

[Q] Samsung 64Gb Micro SD help

I have recently purchased an ADATA and a Samsung 64gb micro SD cards for use with my note 2. Both of these do not allow me to store more than 4gbs of data. All I am trying to do is fill up the cards with mp3 files, organized into folders. If I transfer more than 4gbs all the folders show once the card is inserted in the phone but a majority of the folders are empty even though I know 100% the mps files are in the folders before transfer. I assumed this was due to the cheaper brand ADATA's quality but its the same with the Samsung.
Anyone know whats going on here or what Ill need to do to take advantage of the full 64gb?
Thanks,
Is it formated to exfat?
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melvinchng said:
Is it formated to exfat?
Accidentally sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2
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The adata was, I have seen that FAT32 is best but it was not an option when formatting in windows.
The samsung I have formatted in the phone, then used an SD adapter in my laptop to transfer the files, im not sure what format it is and cannot check right now unless it is possible for me to view this on the device?
cheeseymofodude said:
The adata was, I have seen that FAT32 is best but it was not an option when formatting in windows.
The samsung I have formatted in the phone, then used an SD adapter in my laptop to transfer the files, im not sure what format it is and cannot check right now unless it is possible for me to view this on the device?
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Are you rooted?
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melvinchng said:
Are you rooted?
Accidentally sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2
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Yes, with stock ROM
You need a format tool on windows or just format on you phone: exFat
Zanr Zij said:
You need a format tool on windows or just format on you phone: exFat
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The ADATA was in exFAT and only allowed up to 4gb out of the 64gb it should have been
The samsung I am using now was formatted in the phone but i used an adapter in my laptop to transfer. Will it be worth trying to transfer via the usb cable and the device?
Iv spent at least 6 hours transferring and formatting now, just want an answer!
cheeseymofodude said:
The ADATA was in exFAT and only allowed up to 4gb out of the 64gb it should have been
The samsung I am using now was formatted in the phone but i used an adapter in my laptop to transfer. Will it be worth trying to transfer via the usb cable and the device?
Iv spent at least 6 hours transferring and formatting now, just want an answer!
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Try this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002081 mount it as card in stead of media storage
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cheeseymofodude said:
The ADATA was in exFAT and only allowed up to 4gb out of the 64gb it should have been
The samsung I am using now was formatted in the phone but i used an adapter in my laptop to transfer. Will it be worth trying to transfer via the usb cable and the device?
Iv spent at least 6 hours transferring and formatting now, just want an answer!
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You probably have an adapter for your pc that can't handle xD cards - older adapters can only handle cards up to 32gb in size. Go down to Radio Shack and buy an adapter that specifically handles xD (I.e. >32 gb) cards. Using older non-xD adapters with xD cards will almost surely lead to what you're seeing. Don't worry - your new adapter will also handle "lesser" cards.
Mudge
iCurmudgeon said:
You probably have an adapter for your pc that can't handle xD cards - older adapters can only handle cards up to 32gb in size. Go down to Radio Shack and buy an adapter that specifically handles xD (I.e. >32 gb) cards. Using older non-xD adapters with xD cards will almost surely lead to what you're seeing. Don't worry - your new adapter will also handle "lesser" cards.
Mudge
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I just tried formatting in the device, and transferred over 14gbs of music over. After a scan the music player only finde 4.1gb of data meaning around 10gbs has been lost for some reason. I didnt use an adaptor this time, I transferred via USB but still the same thing has happened.
Is there a way round this that does not require me to partition my SD card? I only ask as I have done no research on this and would like a simple resolution.
Thanks,
Your card might be fake. People on ebay and other sites offer cards and usb sticks that look like large capacity cards whereas they actually modified low capacity cheap cards. I don't know the name of the tool anymore, but there are test tools around that can tell you whether your card is a fake or not. I was screwed with a USB stick once...
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This is starting to put me of the device altogether now! Searched high and low, not just on XDA but all over the place, lots of people having the same issue. no one able to offer a clear resolution, either they have a 64Gb card that works, or one that don't. I'm trying to use a Samsung branded card as I assumed this would be the safest bet.
I've read stuff about partitions, turning the card into mass storage rather than media storage, and plenty of other suggestions, nothing works or is simply irrelevant. Has anyone that has experienced the same issue managed to get it working?
I'm not even looking to have use of the full 64Gb but I want allot more than the 4Gb maximum the card is currently providing!!!
Look the 4gb you are talking is when the FILE is 4GB NOT the FOLDER. Check your mp3 folder maybe you find a movie in it has 4GB and you didnt notice.
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When you format too leave the partition it to default
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mezo91 said:
Look the 4gb you are talking is when the FILE is 4GB NOT the FOLDER. Check your mp3 folder maybe you find a movie in it has 4GB and you didnt notice.
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When you format too leave the partition it to default
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There is no individual file on the card that is anywhere near 4gb in size, but I do try to transfer well over 4gb at once but each FILe s no more than 6 to 8mb.
I do not understand much about partitioning, any chance of linking me to a basic explanation or guide? Everything Iv found so far has been a little complex.
Most of the folders I try to put on the memory card still show but under weird names, please see attachment for examples. Also now there seem to be some protection on the micro sd card I am unable to remove, I attempt to delete folders with the file browser app and I am told the folder has been deleted but it is not removed at all and when I try via my computer connecting the phone to my laptop via USB I am told there is write protection which I cannot remove. What's all that about??
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There is no individual file on the card that is anywhere near 4gb in size, but I do try to transfer well over 4gb at once but each FILe s no more than 6 to 8mb.
I do not understand much about partitioning, any chance of linking me to a basic explanation or guide? Everything Iv found so far has been a little complex.
Most of the folders I try to put on the memory card still show but under weird names, please see attachment for examples. Also now there seem to be some protection on the micro sd card I am unable to remove, I attempt to delete folders with the file browser app and I am told the folder has been deleted but it is not removed at all and when I try via my computer connecting the phone to my laptop via USB I am told there is write protection which I cannot remove. What's all that about??
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From my experience.
1. Partitioning is like when you partition your hard disk drive on desktop or laptop, say you got 500gb hdd u partition it to 100gb drive c and 400gb drive d for example. Now you dont want that on your sd card.
2. About the lock thing if you insert your microsd card to pc through microsd card adapter you will find a work Lock and a button that goes up and down. There is an arrow next to lock word that points down for lock so u need the lock button to be up so u can edit your files easily.
3. Try to double check again that folder thoroughly there must be a 4gb file u didnt notice becuz when my external hdd was format to fat32 had the same problem then I knew fat32 doesnt support 4gb files not folders.
4. Look some 64gb cards say there are bugs when not formatting to exfat so give exfat a try.
5. I think you might have virus that makes wierd folder names.
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I still think it is a fake card. Had exactly the same behaviour with a fake usb stick once. If you can, get your money back from the seller. Up to the actual size all goes fine, but when putting more data on it, it starts to overwrite existing data on the card, leading to corruption. I have an official Sandisk 64Gb in my NoteII without any problems, both on fat32 as well as exfat.
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It may be the memory card, I purchased it quite cheap for a 64gb from ebay. Could it potentially have anything to do with the firmware I use? Iv contacted Samsung technical about this and they advised looking for a firmware update...
It's not quiet clear to me if you get any error messages while transferring, or if it successfully transferred all files but they are not longer there..
1) Can you see the files on the card from computer? (when phone connected via USB or using adapter)
2) Can you see the files on the card from the phone? (via any file manager, not music players or galleries)
3) How much used/free space on the card showed in phone and computer? (on the phone Settings -> Storage, on computer, right click on the card in my computer -> properties)
Odds that both cards are fake are quiet slim, I'd assume.
There is no such thing as incompatible adapter with xD cards, simply because MicroSD to SD adapters contain no electronics inside, they are all mechanical and the same. However, card reader is another story, it could be incompatible with xD cards, in which case the result would be unpredictable, to the point that it could corrupt other files already on the card.
But that would not affect transferring files directly to the phone via USB.
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It's not quiet clear to me if you get any error messages while transferring, or if it successfully transferred all files but they are not longer there..
1) Can you see the files on the card from computer? (when phone connected via USB or using adapter)
2) Can you see the files on the card from the phone? (via any file manager, not music players or galleries)
3) How much used/free space on the card showed in phone and computer? (on the phone Settings -> Storage, on computer, right click on the card in my computer -> properties)
Odds that both cards are fake are quiet slim, I'd assume.
There is no such thing as incompatible adapter with xD cards, simply because MicroSD to SD adapters contain no electronics inside, they are all mechanical and the same. However, card reader is another story, it could be incompatible with xD cards, in which case the result would be unpredictable, to the point that it could corrupt other files already on the card.
But that would not affect transferring files directly to the phone via USB.
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I don't receive any error messages at all, the files seem to transfer fine but once I try to play some of the MP3s with power amp I am shown 'Failed to play file! "name of track".mp3'. It seems to be only the first 4gb of tracks I transfer are playable once on the device.
Going to start again...
-I have connected my note 2 via usb, using windows 7. Right clicked 'card' under 'GT-N7105' and selected format.
-I have copied 16.4gb (minus the odd playlist, jpeg or text file in some of the folders) of MP3 organised into folders by album and pasted onto 'card'...
-9.99Gb show on the card via the laptop before I disconnect
-Settings on phone show 62.50Gb total space, 45.94Gb available, so 16.56Gb should be used.
-Using the stock file browser most of the folders the MP3s are organised in are empty
- I select several random tracks to play in PowerAmp but get the 'cannot play file' message
- restart device
-try playing random tracks with poweramp but having the same issue, that most cannot be played
-storage settings now show 62.50gb total, 58.51gb available. so only 3.99gb of the mp3s are on the card now.
-connect via USB again and properties shows only 3.92gb on the card are used
Again no more than 4Gb can be used!!
no matter what ive tried nothing seems to have worked. Even the guys at Samsung support couldnt help! They suggested a sandisc card so Iv purchased a 32gb sandisc card which works perfect. Oh well....

External hard drive transfers to this Tablet

Can you connect an external hard drive to this tablet and transfer files such as movies, music, and pictures back and forth? I only want to keep 10 movies on the tab at once, and switch back and forth.
Is it simply possible if it is exfat or fat32 with a usb OTG cable?
Depends on the hd. Some uncovered drives don't work and some do depending on their requirements. I use a 64 gig thumb drive just fine with an eBay otg cable I paid 7.00 for
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I have a 1TB Western Digital My Passport (a USB-powered drive) formatted as FAT32 + an OTG cable. It works perfectly fine, but not if the drive is NTFS. If rooted (which I am), you can supposedly use NTFS with the aid of some apps, but I havent tried it personally (worked on my old Acer A500 though, so I cant see why it wouldnt on our tablet).
EDIT: I just tried a thumb drive formatted as NTFS and the Android system wont recognize it, as suspected. Unfortunately, I tried 2 free NTFS mounting apps from Play Store and neither worked. It's still theoretically possible, but maybe not for 4.3 or just 4.3 for now. As I said, I did it all the time on my old tablet, but it was running 4.0.3 ICS, not 4.3 JB.
(I also used to use an APK found somewhere here on XDA. The app wasnt on Play and I cant find it now. Search around on Google and you may be able to find it or something similar.)
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I have a 1TB Western Digital My Passport (a USB-powered drive) formatted as FAT32 + an OTG cable. It works perfectly fine, but not if the drive is NTFS. If rooted (which I am), you can supposedly use NTFS with the aid of some apps, but I havent tried it personally (worked on my old Acer A500 though, so I cant see why it wouldnt on our tablet).
EDIT: I just tried a thumb drive formatted as NTFS and the Android system wont recognize it, as suspected. Unfortunately, I tried 2 free NTFS mounting apps from Play Store and neither worked. It's still theoretically possible, but maybe not for 4.3 or just 4.3 for now. As I said, I did it all the time on my old tablet, but it was running 4.0.3 ICS, not 4.3 JB.
(I also used to use an APK found somewhere here on XDA. The app wasnt on Play and I cant find it now. Search around on Google and you may be able to find it or something similar.)
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Only app I found that will allow an NTFS drive to be read is USB Stick Plugin for TC... It only works for total commander however and is a commercial app on the playstore - you need to pay around $2 for it....
Works well though....
I have a 1.5TB Toshiba usb3 (USB-powered drive) formatted as exfat + OTG cable works perfect

Using OTG Drive...

My Pixel XL sees my OTG drive just fine from within the native file explorer - the one that comes up when you first plug the drive in. But curiously, Astro File Manager can't find the drive, either can PowerAmp. They only see internal storage.
I am careful to select "File Transfer" when the drive is first plugged in, so it doesn't think the drive is a power source.
Any ideas why the drive can't be seen via other means other than the native file explorer?
After some investigation, it appears that having an app access, or play, a file on an OTG drive since Android 6.0 has been a non-starter. Security and permissions in the OS seem to be at the root of it (no pun). Getting 6.0+ devices to see and execute files on an OTG drive - beyond the capability provided by the native file browser - seems to need root and/or other interventions that don't seem worth the effort for me.
If anyone else knows different, please let me know.
For me, having an OTG drive handy has value as I can easily copy files to internal memory in a snap when on-the-go, and simply play them from there with the app of my choice. Alternatively, if I were to push my Pixel to capacity by taking tons of pix and 4K video (not likely) I could easily off-load them to OTG.
You must have some kind of problems because I just tried and I can actually execute files (music, video, apk the ones I tired) from the external USB drive without having to copy them in the internal storage.
Both using the integrated Android default file manager and Solid Explorer (with no OTG-plugin).
Good to hear Matt!
Which OTG drive are you using? Maybe it's a pin-out problem on my particular drive.
No problems for me either. I'm using a Kingston 64GB DataTraveler microDuo 3C (with both USB C and USB A). I can confirm I can access its file directory with Solid Explorer and can play music stored on it with PowerAmp.
As far as I remember when I first connected it, I first tried to access it with Solid Explorer. I was initially directed to the Pixel's stock file explorer and had to make a selection there. After that the drive was fully accessible with Solid. Since then Solid and PowerAmp can access the OTG drive as soon as it's connected and I haven't been prompted to do anything in the stock file manager since.
However I'd like to add that I've since found an OTG drive isn't the same as having an SD card slot. I originally hoped that I could relocate all my music files to the external drive to keep lots of space free on the Pixel (32GB version). Although that is possible, PowerAmp takes about 7 minutes to scan and build its music library (6,000+ HE-AACv2 tunes) whenever I connect the OTG drive, so it's not exactly a fast and seamless alternative to keeping music in internal storage. The drive also gets quite hot when it's being accessed, and I'm not sure if it consumes a lot of power to run.
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After some investigation, it appears that having an app access, or play, a file on an OTG drive since Android 6.0 has been a non-starter. Security and permissions in the OS seem to be at the root of it (no pun). Getting 6.0+ devices to see and execute files on an OTG drive - beyond the capability provided by the native file browser - seems to need root and/or other interventions that don't seem worth the effort for me.
If anyone else knows different, please let me know.
For me, having an OTG drive handy has value as I can easily copy files to internal memory in a snap when on-the-go, and simply play them from there with the app of my choice. Alternatively, if I were to push my Pixel to capacity by taking tons of pix and 4K video (not likely) I could easily off-load them to OTG.
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My Pixel XL sees my OTG drive just fine from within the native file explorer - the one that comes up when you first plug the drive in. But curiously, Astro File Manager can't find the drive, either can PowerAmp. They only see internal storage.
I am careful to select "File Transfer" when the drive is first plugged in, so it doesn't think the drive is a power source.
Any ideas why the drive can't be seen via other means other than the native file explorer?
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Exact same problem for me. I only have 32 XL and would love to use OTG drive, but only system file browser sees it.
You sure its not because you are trying to read exFAT? Pixel cant see exFAT.
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