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External portable hard drives proven to work with A101

I am expecting to recieve my Archos 101 on Wednesday and I expect to pick up an external drive while I am there. I have a Seagate drive but I'm not sure if I want to use it after I read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914286
Is there a portable external drive that has proven to work with the 101 without any issues? It would be best if it didn't need that Y cable that some portables come with, as the 101 only has one host port.

I just got my 750gb Seagate in the mail on Monday I've connected it a few different times and have had no issues.
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Works but u could format it to ext so u could have r/w access with ntfs it would be just read
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how to eject it?just plug it off?
or it has sumting like "safely remove" button..

You can safely remove usb hardware from the android message area...

I posted a whole list of drives I've tested and used that work fine with the 101...forgot what thread though.

[Q] Sd Card and File Managers

Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks

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xonkwerdna said:
Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
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1. Sadly, no. This is a point of annoyance for me, actually, since it means you cannot install apps/games to the USB drive as you could
with an SD card.
2. As for file managers, the OUYA does not have any built in but you can go to the "Make" menu and open the web browser. From there you can web search for an ES File Explorer APK (or create a backup on your phone and send it to dropbox, then access it from your browser).
a. I personally used my browser to install Box and Dropbox so that I can backup apps from my phone and send them to my browser.
It makes the side-loading process easier. I now have Amazon app store, emulators like N64oid and XBMC on my OUYA.
As for being on a Mac, I am not sure how formatting works on that.
UPDATE (just now haha): I will be trying this to see if it can be used to move apps to a USB stick. That would be brilliant! Will update with results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Cheers!

I've create a single fat32 partition with the default settings in linux/KDE on my drive. When I connect the drive to ouya using USB, it gets mounted at /mnt/usbdrive. I can see in the logcat output vold handling all the mounting the same as it would for an SD card. There are no other signs though, that anything is being mounted. There is no environmental variables like EXTERNAL_STORAGE pointing to this location. It does not appear in the settings->storage menu like it does on other devices. You kind of just have to know where it is and then you can browse to that location in your apps.

I'm in the same boat. I'm sitting here trying to get my 500gb 2.5" portable laptop HDD to load with my roms. At first I thought it was because of NFTS. So I formatted. Nothing. Then I wiped all the partitions into 1 huge exFat partition. Nothing. Plugged in my 32gb USB Stick that is NTFS. Nothing. Grabbed a MicroSD-USB adapter and used my 16gb from my MK808. Nothing. Grabbed my old 16gb and reformatted it as FAT32. Nothing.
Nothing is reading on my Ouya. Wtf?
None of my apps are reading anything.

It cant be exfat; it cant be NTFS. You need to make it fat32. There's something in windoze where it refuses to create a fat32 partition over a certain size, but you can do it on just about any other computer. You can make your whole 500GB hard drive fat32 and ouya will see it fine. Or you can wait until we have more development to enable ntfs support. Don't hold your breath for exfat, since M$ is charging big licensing fees for it.

No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.

player911 said:
No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.
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How are you trying to test if they work? Because MOST people's problem is that it doesn't show up on the OUYA itself, it's all app specific and there is no directions built in to find USB storage at this time.
Grab a USB Keyboard or Mouse and try that to see if it works, at least that way you can rule out a bad USB port.
I've tried multiple different USB devices all with 0 problems and it seems like the people who go through 3 or 4+ different ones just don't know where to look.
I'm NOT saying this is your problem exactly or that you're dumb in anyway, you may have a bad unit, just trying to help with what I've observed while helping others on this forum.
And to address the FAT32 vs NTFS: Plenty of people have confirmed that NTFS works, including myself. It was rumored at the beginning that only FAT32 worked, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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player911 said:
Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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Good luck! At least you can always take it back to gamestop once they ahve another one to get it, but I hope it doesn't come down to it for you!

Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
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Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset. Here is the quote I posted from the Ouya Forums:
Player911 said:
Well I just fixed it!!!
I just got my OUYA yesterday and immediately threw on my 640gb HDD but it wouldn't see it. I kept screwing with it and screwing with it. Nothing. 32gb Flash drive. Nothing. 16gb Flash Drive. Nothing. 16gb microSD-USB. Nothing. I screwed with Fat32, NTFS. Nothing worked! I thought my USB was blown. Someone suggested trying a USB device so I used my PS3 controller. BOOM. Worked. USB Storage... Nothing.
I'm an IT Admin with a N7 and a Galaxy Nexus. I know my way around.
Well in this thread, I saw someone did a Factory Reset and that worked. WTH right? So I did a factory reset and low and behold, my HDD is reading like a champ.
So if you have USB HDD issues, use the Formatter Tool to format it to FAT32: http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?...ll=1#post35834
If that doesn't work. Factory Reset and set it back up!
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player911 said:
Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
EDIT!!!!!!!!
Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset.
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Glad you go it working! Makes me wonder what the problem was in the first place, since it worked for HID but not storage. Maybe bad install or update of drivers.

I dunno. First thing it did when I turned it on was an update. I've spent all day screwing with it and dredging through forums. There are tons of people who have had issues after the last update, where it WAS working and magically stopped. So I'm thinking it was a firmware issues, perhaps something they changed. Since mine was probably used, perhaps it had drivers in there and got screwed up after the update. Who knows.
I do plan on swapping this out with a new one as soon as Gamestop has them in stock, since he was so kind to give me a 1 yr warranty. The USB port isn't tight and the connections feels sloppy. At first I was thinking that it wasn't making a good connection. For all I know, someone had an early edition and swapped it out with a new release day model. Like you said, something makes me wonder. I don't want anything else to happen down the road because of mal-use of a previous owner.

[Q] USB connection problem

I've got a new Nexus 7 (2013) that I'm trying to connect to my 128gb PNY USB 2.0 Flash Drive(formatted NTFS). My device is rooted and I've tried multiple USB hosting apps such as Nexus Media Importer, OTG helper, and Stickmount but none of these have been able to recognize this drive. I have another old 1gb Cruzer that I have no troubles using and the 128gb PNY Drive works fine on my desktop. This makes me think the Nexus 7 simply cant power the Flash Drive however I have read others claiming they are able to power some larger Flash Drives and mid-sized external Hard Drives with much more space so I find it hard to believe I just managed to find the wrong brand drive. Sometimes the Flash Drive seems to get detected for a split second but before I am able to even finish connecting it is lost again. OTG Troubleshooter sometimes will not detect any device, other times it will detect the device for a quick moment and give issue #58277 yet other times it will pass the troubleshooting test and send me to connect to the device but by the time i get there it has disappeared. Any information on what may be causing this issue or what Flash Drives the Nexus 7 is capable of powering would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Jake

Try Paragon NTFS to set SELinux to permissible. I use both that app and Stickmount for my 64gb Sandisk Dual USB.

Paragon NTFS can't pick up the device either. I can only ever seem to get the device detected for a brief moment right after plugging it in so I guess its a power problem. I just don't see why this flash drive would take so much power. If anyone can confirm some higher capacity drives that work with the Nexus 7 that would be great.

Hi, were you able to solve this problem? I also have the same issue with this USB device. It seems to work fine on my Samsung S5, but not the nexus7 or S3.

JY RK3066 Can't mount USB 1 and USB 2 at the same time

I'm running the latest version of malaysk rom. I have a patriot 64gb usb 3.0 drive and a Seagate slim 2tb drive. The head unit has two usb cables on the back, both individually they work fine, but when I plug one in after the other, the second drive doesn't mount. I've tried stickmount, paragon and any other mounting apps in the app store and I've tried searching through the forums but the search is giving me some trouble. What I'm hoping to be able to do is leave the 2tb drive filled with my music in the car and only load my 64gb stick with the latest music or videos. In the settings it shows only the first drive mounted and it shows it as "shared memory". The second drive mount option is dark and doesn't allow me to mount it. Any suggestions?

anyone?

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anyone?
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Again, use search. It's been discussed so many times already. If you have used search, you would have found
some people are trying to solve that problem. Nothing yet AFAIK.

I've been searching, I've only found one other mention of it with a developer bringing up the question and attempting to solve it and that thread was posted after my original question.
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Pixel and USB OTG - FAT32 vs exFAT

Has anyone else tried using the included USB-C to A adapter to mount a flash drive? The phone recognizes it fine, but seems to only be able to read FAT32 formatting. I have other Android devices that can read exFAT just fine via an OTG cable. One of the reasons I was ok with getting the Pixel XL which doesn't have a MicroSD slot is that I assumed I would be able to hook up a flash drive if I wanted to watch some larger video files. I often have video files that exceed the file size limit of FAT32, so that format is not really an option.

I didn't realize the USB-C to USB-A connector was USB OTG. Thanks.
I tried a thumb drive first formatted to FAT32. It worked fine and I could access the files on it. Then I reformatted the thumb drive to exFAT, copied some files over to it, and then tried it. Nope. I remembered that I bought a file explorer for my N5 (it wouldn't mount the thumb drive) to allow USB OTG without root. So searched through my apps and found it....... USB Media Explorer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en It is a paid app. It advertises FAT/FAT32, NTFS or Ext2/3/4, but it did work with exFAT. The interface wasn't the most intuitive. I went to folders and saw the music there. It was easy to play the music on the thumb drive. It took a little bit to figure out how to copy a song to the Pixel memory (have to select the song and then a copy looking icon pops up). I haven't figured out how to copy a complete folder yet although it must be possible. There were a few other apps on the Play Store that looked similar. I only tried this one since I had previously purchased it.

mtucker said:
I didn't realize the USB-C to USB-A connector was USB OTG. Thanks.
I tried a thumb drive first formatted to FAT32. It worked fine and I could access the files on it. Then I reformatted the thumb drive to exFAT, copied some files over to it, and then tried it. Nope. I remembered that I bought a file explorer for my N5 (it wouldn't mount the thumb drive) to allow USB OTG without root. So searched through my apps and found it....... USB Media Explorer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en It is a paid app. It advertises FAT/FAT32, NTFS or Ext2/3/4, but it did work with exFAT. The interface wasn't the most intuitive. I went to folders and saw the music there. It was easy to play the music on the thumb drive. It took a little bit to figure out how to copy a song to the Pixel memory (have to select the song and then a copy looking icon pops up). I haven't figured out how to copy a complete folder yet although it must be possible. There were a few other apps on the Play Store that looked similar. I only tried this one since I had previously purchased it.
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Thanks, that app did work to be able to view the files on exfat formatted USB drive. For some reason playback of a video file is really slow (buffers a LOT) if playing directly from the drive. A bit odd, since copying a file to the phones internal storage didn't take too long, about a minute for a 500 Mb file. Not anywhere near USB 3 "normal" speeds, but not terrible. I found one other app on the play store that was also able to read the USB drive, but had the same performance. I will test formatted as FAT32 later and see if there is a difference.

This non-supporting of exFAT clearly shows Google is tying to push us to store everything about us on the Google Drive so that they can monitor everything about us... Is your thumb drive usb3 compatible? If so and you're not getting the 'normal' speeds, that's another sign. We better watch out. They will eventually force us to use their proprietary app like iTunes to transfer files between Pixels and PCs.
Seriously, though, I need a way to quickly sync my photos and videos from my DLSR.

mrhds said:
Thanks, that app did work to be able to view the files on exfat formatted USB drive. For some reason playback of a video file is really slow (buffers a LOT) if playing directly from the drive. A bit odd, since copying a file to the phones internal storage didn't take too long, about a minute for a 500 Mb file. Not anywhere near USB 3 "normal" speeds, but not terrible. I found one other app on the play store that was also able to read the USB drive, but had the same performance. I will test formatted as FAT32 later and see if there is a difference.
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Actually a minute for a 500MB file IS a lot.
Which USB pen drive is it?

matteventu said:
Actually a minute for a 500MB file IS a lot.
Which USB pen drive is it?
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Agreed.
My tests showed a similar result with Kingston 64GB Data Traveler Micro Duo as well as Sandisk Ultra 64GB using FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. For comparison, my Nexus 6P transferred the same file approximately twice as fast.
I was a little disappointed by the lack of native support for formats other than FAT32 and this issue makes the file-size workaround less than desirable. Otherwise, my pixel xl seems to perform as expected.
pp

Struggling with this as well, I foolishly bought the 32GB Pixel XL and constantly run out of space so for large file storage I bought a 64GB Sandisk usb drive (3.0, one of those tiny thumbnail sized dongles) and it works but the transfer speed is maxing out at 2mb/s! It takes around 30 minutes to transfer a 2GB file; I manage but it's pretty unacceptable for a 3.0 device (using the Google provided C to A) and it drains the battery like mad!
Any more thoughts on this? I'm struggling to find an answer (read: fix).
Thanks friends,

voice.lex said:
Struggling with this as well, I foolishly bought the 32GB Pixel XL and constantly run out of space so for large file storage I bought a 64GB Sandisk usb drive (3.0, one of those tiny thumbnail sized dongles) and it works but the transfer speed is maxing out at 2mb/s! It takes around 30 minutes to transfer a 2GB file; I manage but it's pretty unacceptable for a 3.0 device (using the Google provided C to A) and it drains the battery like mad!
Any more thoughts on this? I'm struggling to find an answer (read: fix).
Thanks friends,
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I did some more testing now that Google has had a year of software updates. Unfortunately, even on 8.1 December update, it seems FAT32 is still the only supported format, and the speeds are just as slow. I could only get about 15 Mb/sec. Thats using a high end aftermarket USB-C -> A adapter, and a 128 GB Sandisk USB 3 memory stick. This same adapter and memory stick can transfer well above 150 Mb/sec on a PC.

exFAT is a proprietary file system created and owned by Microsoft. Google did not pay Microsoft for the use of it on Pixel phones.

So exFAT can technically work if you Install Solid Explorer (free trial then $2 lifetime fee InApp Purchase, in my opinion well worth it as it's Solid) and their Solid Explorer USB OTG Plugin. Full Read/Write access for Fat32 and exFAT, NTFS Read only support. I actually loaded up my 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Flash Drive (exFAT formatted from Windows 10 pc), and took it on a trip with me to Disney World, so I could load movies and unload pictures of the family. I do have a 128GB Pixel XL, however I have a huge music collection I prefer offline, and ironically a lot of DayDream VR Experiences (it is space-consuming for offline copies such as Discovery VR etc, so those add up a Lot, but it does make for best experience as it is very heavy bandwidth dependent over wifi).
The USB 3.0 in my opinion doesn't exist for OTG, or at least with this adapter, I do have another adapter I think I'll try in a moment. However what I want to say is this flash Reads up to 245 MB/s and Writes at up to 190 MB/s, I usually average 100 - 200 on my pc. On this flash drive, just copying a file to phone from flash drive over exFAT apparently is limited to 0.5 MB/s. In other words it's going to take nearly 2 hours to copy over a 2.5 Gb file. It can still copy over with screen off, but I was thought it was ridiculous how much battery would be consumed and kept thinking if issue was UFS storage or drivers. I am on Android 8.0 November, will update to 8.1 clean install this week when February 2018 comes out. This actually did cause an issue for me using the original usb c to a cable on my pc, where it doesn't work and I have to use a specific usb c to a (2.0 version), which is still much faster than this. That issue though is because I 'dirty flashed' 8.0 over 7.1.2 without wiping. Only bug so far from that.

Not sure if the app was updated to support it or if Android 8.1 now supports it natively, but I'm able to access a flash drive via my phone using the adapter and File Manager by "Flashlight + Clock".
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
Cheers!

Are you sure? I just tried it and it told me it doesn't support exFAT

Hi could anyone give a clear answer about use of OTG with Google Pixel XL: I read all about Google not supporting the exFAT format (someone said because they wouldn't pay Microsoft to license the tech), and that Pixel users are stuck with super slow transfer speeds, and file limitation sizes of FAT32. Someone else mentioned somewhere about Host Mode, and I'm finding it way harder than seems logical to get some definitive answer: If I can't get fast OTG transfer speeds with the Pixel, then I have to pass on its high quality camera and go with an inferior phone that has microUSB.
Can someone help me out with this please? Thank you much.

mrhds said:
Has anyone else tried using the included USB-C to A adapter to mount a flash drive? The phone recognizes it fine, but seems to only be able to read FAT32 formatting. I have other Android devices that can read exFAT just fine via an OTG cable. One of the reasons I was ok with getting the Pixel XL which doesn't have a MicroSD slot is that I assumed I would be able to hook up a flash drive if I wanted to watch some larger video files. I often have video files that exceed the file size limit of FAT32, so that format is not really an option.
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Try JS USB OTG app. I use this to play big video files with MxPlayer in SW mode, without rooting and the app doesn't seem to stream video like other apps, you can go back or forward without any problems.

it always seems when there is any issue and someone ""tried"" an app and blah blah .. its always an app that needs to be PAID TO USE !!!! crack me up just makes me want to find the paid ""free"" version through a google search