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When Did You All Purchase Your Note 4? Any Tint? AT&T Note 4 Owners Only.

When Did You All Purchase Your AT&T Note 4? Any Tint? Charcoal Black or White? What is the date of manufacturing according to Samsung's website?
You can find this information when registering your device as you enter the serial number.
I'm trying to narrow my buying choices now between the Note 4, Nexus 6, and iPhone 6 Plus.

The Note 4 is silky smooth. I have the iPhone 6, and I hardly pick it up now. I use the 6 as my daily driver, and the NOTE has become my reading device.

I had a 6 Plus for about a week before I exchanged it for a Note 4. Just couldn't get used to the iOS way of doing things. It also didn't want to play nice with my truck's Sync. Joanna was always complaining about not being able to find the iPhone, even after master resets.

You don't happen to work for Samsung, do you? Just kidding.
I did play with a iPhone 6+ demo unit, but didn't like the fact it was built mainly for the iOS ecosystem. I find Android very versatile, it seems now its between the Note 4 and Nexus 6 (both having AMOLED displays). Not sure about the Quality Control of Samsung though.
tzius1 said:
The Note 4 is silky smooth. I have the iPhone 6, and I hardly pick it up now. I use the 6 as my daily driver, and the NOTE has become my reading device.
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The question really becomes what you want out of your phone.
PreOrdered October 14. (what tint?)
Note provides a different experience. Spen functions ( snote etc).
While not an issue if you want to run touchwiz free android.
Really if you don't care for spen then any high end android device out there can suffice.
Then the choice falls between ios vs android.

You guys forget to mention multitasking windows, I'll find it very useful recently when open 3 apps at the same times with Note 4

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You guys forget to mention multitasking windows, I'll find it very useful recently when open 3 apps at the same times with Note 4
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True but... multi-windows can be achieved with custom roms... or third party apps...

Bought mine 2 weeks ago. No tint, dead pixels, etc. Beauty of a phone. I buried it in an OtterBox though.

I recieved my black Note 4 last Tuesday. As far as I can tell, it was manufactured in October. No issues whatsoever. Best phone I've had to date.

Bought at ATT store, no issues with the screen or the phone in general. In fact if it were not so locked down the phone would be awesome.

Same was hoping it could be the last phone I buy for awhile but with it being so locked down it'll just be decent unless by some miracle we get a workaround to extend its life.

Talk me out of switching to it he iphone!

So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?

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So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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I basically think your making a mistake iphone suck my friend traded his iPhone 6 plus for the note 4 so if i was you stay with the note 4.
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brfitzp said:
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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Very easy, my GF (super Apple believer, always had Macs and iPhones) got an iPhone 6 of course and she can't regret it more. She's even been considering getting an android phone! Which is absolutely crazy for her.
Bottom line, you'll regret it. Sounds like you are an android veteran so I don't need to list here why it's infinitely better than iOS, even on a non-rooted phone.
Heck, if you can't live without root get a different Android phone! Or a rootable Note 4! There's plenty to choose from, don't fall far Apple's fake charm, besides the company now is at its lowest point ever.
Again, you'll regret it for sure!

oh, how I love the "talk me out of switching to an iphone" threads [/sarcasm]
If you're going to switch, just do it. You dont need anyone to talk you into or out of it. You can make your own decisions.

The IPhone 6 will be so boring for you! Just a stupid app drawer with barely any customization available. Unless you use Mac for everything else I can't imagine why you would want to be stuck in that ecosystem. Have you tried just carrying your phone naked in your pocket or use a pouch case? I use a leather wallet case and it fits my front pocket perfectly and I don't even need to carry a wallet anymore. You will also miss the screen, I promise you. I watched a 4k video in YouTube right next to my buddies iPhone 6 and it was no contest. The only other reason i can think of to switch is the better slow motion video, but that's literally it! Don't do it buddy, stay on the light side!

I had an iPhone, first one was the 5. As soon as I started using it I thought, wow, I get it! I could see why so many people like them. After a few months though, I started getting bored and frustrated by little limitations, mainly the lack of user adjustable settings both system wide and per app. So, I switched back to Android. I can't talk you out of an iPhone, because it's a great device, just not for me. The only way you can know if it's right for you is if you try it. Personally, it's my opinion that HTC makes the best phone you can buy.

If you're looking for a smaller phone, I'd look into the lg g3 or the xperia z3 compact. Both are great phones that I'd honestly pick up over the iphone 6.

Just do it traitor. Who needs to convince you. You are your own person. Jeez
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brfitzp said:
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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Dude im 19 but turning 20 on the 20th of this month and have been with android since after my first phone the iPhone 3G. Since then -> HTC One X -> LG G Flex -> SGN4 all on AT&T. Everyone else in my family is using iphones from iPhone 5C's to iPhones 6's. I'm the odd guy out but I'm the guy who is like you. I root my phones when I can and I compile android roms for them as well when I can. I brought aokp 4.4.2 for the HOXL for example the first one to do that even beat official aokp upon release. But even without root Android has loads more too offer than iTunes app store especially if your a developer. Also one reason thats major to stick with the Galaxy Note 4 is for the Gear VR. Freaking oculus rift portable basically and vr gaming and cinema. Also its Quad HD 551 something DPI display. <- AnTuTu says it has 641 or something DPI I think specs are wrong from what is mentioned. I think AnTuTu is right. Also Galaxy Note 4 is using Gorilla Glass 4 . Also microSD card slot = expand storage up to 128 GB totaling to 160 GB's. Using SD card storage for movies music , utorrent (tv series etc.) Move app data to sdcard to increase storage and when we get root move entire apps to sd cards swap apps etc. You can also have camera save pictures and videos to ext sd card. We get android lollipop soon either end of this month most likely January. Also Note 4 is awarded with best color recreation read it multiple websites blogs etc. A stylus and optical image stabilization 4k video recording at 60 FPS! in UHD which I have it auto save to micro sd card then transfer vids and pics to pc. I have over 300 apps on my Note 4 and 4 HD movies and 800 songs downloaded from spotify. Several multi gb games. Because i transfer app data to sd card that im fine with them not working temporarily while sdcard it out and in my pc. Apps are back after the fact. When root does come out it will be the best phone ever #Note that it already isn;t! Swappable battery 3220 mah fast charge is legit! If you want to root now really bad get a tablet I recommend the nexus 9. >.< And check out the thread root progress note 4 att and someone is working on root for AT&T note 4 and seems close, just takes time and patience and we will have root and then customization and the best hardware and software.
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If you like iOS just switch. You've used Android before so you should be aware what you're leaving behind, so there shouldn't be a need for anyone to convince you to stay with Android.

My GF has been an iphone user since the first iphone, all the way up to the 5c. She had major problems with her last iPhone (5c) and she still planned on uograding to the 6+. I talked her into getting a Note 4, and she couldn't be happier. She had played with her friends android phone a couple years ago, a cheap entry level htc, and that left a bad taste in her mouth. She thought that was the experience involved with all android phones. Now that she has a flagship android device, she's all android and not looking back to ios.

Just switch, iPhones are great, easy to use and smooth ui I still love iPhones even though I'm on a note 4 and my wife is on yhr galaxy s5, the s5 is the perfect size phone, I'm starting to regret my note, too bulky and no root... I will really regret it if there is never going to be a root...

or have them both, that's why I carry both of my note 4 and an ipodtouch 5th gen with me all the time, same ios function,updated ios, with facetime, I just use mobile hotspot tethering on my note 4 to supply net to my ipod though whenever I need it

People bash the iPhone but I had a 6 Plus and a 6 and they are wonderful phones. Yeah its not customizable and blah blah blah but regardless they are excellent device and the kind of set it and forget it device. You get updates quickly and you don't have it wait around for an update to hit your device. Apps are optimized way better for ios. It just depends on what your needs are. I switched back to the Note 4 because expandable memory is a big thing for me and the certain features. There is nothing more smooth than an ios device so dont let people sway you into thinking the iPhone is a bad device. Your always going to get that answer on xda.

Remember that if you want the better resolution screen you need the 6plus which has the true 1080p screen. The 6plus also has an estimated battery life of about 24 hours tall time 16 stand by time, the screen resolution is 1920x1080 at 401ppi and it's there retina display so there's that,
the note 4 has 23 hours talk and 14 hours standby, it has a 2560x1440 resolution screen with 515ppi,
both have finger print recognition both have NFC with a mobile wallet, depending on where you live mobile wallet might not even matter yet, both are large thin phones.
The iPhone 6plus 16gig is 300$ on contract with att, the note 4 32gig is 300$ as well.
I sell these phones all day, the iPhone 6 is a hell of a lot more popular than the 6plus, the note 4 gets some love but with Samsung not really marketing as hard as apple it's a slow sell, both are amazing phones but I prefer the "freedom" of my note 4, keep in mind I phones are all jailbreak able at this moment where as we have nothing but stock , this is not to speculate what we MAY have in the future. This is a here and now comparison of the facts for each phone, not speculation or opinion. That is why processor and memory are not brought up, in real world use it depends on what you do to really know if one is better than the other...
So there's your reasoning, go ahead and pick
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Chromecast, Gear vr, sd cards, more options for 3rd party accessories, ir blaster, Samsung phones are easier to fix. More apps. S-pen, better multi tasking features. 2k display, better hardware. Idk Last Iphone I had was a 3g. I'm not sure how much they've improved the os.

Nahh i have an iPhone 5s and it's solid but I don't see myself being able to handle it as my daily phone regardless of screen size. I just use it as an ipod or if my battery runs out on my note 4 i can just switch very temporarily

The only thing I have to say about switching over to any other device other then the note series is "S-pen". If you use it a lot, trust me you will miss it.
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True I had the OnePlus One and I did miss the S-pen. I also missed the Super Amoled screen. As well as the ir blaster. Note 4 is sexy. People are always checking mine out.

Just go iPhone you will love it.
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Any Nexus 6P owners upgrading to the Note 7?

Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.

PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.

i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did

I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.

Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.

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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
CoachCWC said:
Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.

ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.

Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7

I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring

borisb said:
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.

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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.

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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.

yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...

Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.

The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.

I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here

What Phone do I get Now??

Ok, let's say there is something to this New Note 7 problem.
What phone would you get?
Has to be Android...

HTC 10?
Maybe LG V20?
Pixel?
S7 egde?
I know.... Questions, questions, questions!!!

Has to be a flagship phone and have an S-pen type feature, so none of the current offerings. Have already reactivated my Nexus 6P and will wait a while to see what shakes out.

Wait for S8E... But it will be a pain because I still own a S4

If there is another recall. I hope they just replace it with s7e
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I'll just stick with my Note4 and wait for the Note8, might go the route and flash a Note7 ROM

Since there's no other phone that I absolutely like right now, I will probably just revert back to my Note 4 and be contract free for some time, hoping something better comes along. I had the S7 Edge for a few weeks, and I found it was unresponsive and lagging at times, so there's really no alternative for me.

No idea. In my case in the US I switched carriers so my old device has already been sold and I would have to get something else immediately or terminate my contract with them. I would say Pixel XL if it was sold though AT&T.

i wish they sold the moto z force in the netherlands, no brainer!
perfect specs, almost stock android, shattershield glass (better than gorilla glass 5) waterproof etc etc.
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-droid-edition

I'm giving my note 4 to my daughter.. So I need a new phone.
I'm choosing between
1. Google pixel
2. LG v20
3. Sony xz

Hopefully such thing is not happening as Note 7 satisfies almost all my criteria for a good phone... If it does and since none of the current offerings by other OEM able to fulfill what I want, I will just have to go back to my Note 1 (chose it because it has the biggest screen at that time + a stylus)...

koppee1 said:
I'm giving my note 4 to my daughter.. So I need a new phone.
I'm choosing between
1. Google pixel
2. LG v20
3. Sony xz
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Give your daughter a new phone and keep the N4, it has no competition out there.
But at the original starter: there is no other high-end phone out there with a stylus, bar the Note series. If you want a stylus, you'll need to get a Note 4 or 5. The Note 4 is only available second hand and the Note 5 only via grey import. I've made a shortlist myself:
Note 4: only secondhand, SW support has been stopped after MM.
Note 5: no SD, 128 GB version expensive. No European version.
LG V20: not available until at least early 2017, no hardware buttons on the front, no OLED.
Google Pixel XL: way to expensive, no hardware buttons, the big chin is ridiculous
Nexus 6P: again no HW buttons. not a fan of the design (back look likes the white droid from Wall-E)
Axon7: new brand to me. What about support? Their market launch was scrappy.
Moto Z Force Droid: only available on 1 US carrier.
Huawei Mate 9: should be introduced shortly. Big screen, but no HW buttons. Presumably a LCD screen.
S7E: bloody edges... go away! I strongly dislike the glass allround design. It is slippery as hell and gives me back the nightmares I had with my S4 which handled like a wet bar of soap as well.
1+3: delivery times galore. But seems like the best bet for now, especially for the price.
iPhone 7+: Yes, I said it. I would almost consider an iPhone. Especially with the ridiculous price fro the Pixel XL with 128 GB. It should net a good resale price for the S8 Stylus to arrive.
If you want a flagship phone with a 6" flat screen, the choices are dire to non-excistent.

I feel yea, if I have to turn in the Note 7 (which is looking increasingly likely), there isn't really another phone that covers it all.
S7 Edge gives the curved edge, water resistance, camera, SD card, and next-in-class screen.
Note 5 gives me the Stylus.
Mean I'm probably looking at the S7 Edge. *sigh* I just don't like the look of it as much as the Note 7. it's TOO rounded, not just the glass, but the body as well.
Edit...The more I think about it, the more I lean towards the note 5. Camera isn't as good, but the screen is still solid, and I'm really liking the stylus now. SD card...well, most of my music is in the cloud, photos auto back up to the cloud, so end of day, I'm really just losing on water resistance and the AOD, and curved edge. (which I like, because...bezel less on the sides now!)

Guess I'm leaning toward the pixel XL.

I would get none. Not giving competition more reasons to gloat.

I just talked to Best Buy mobile 10 minutes ago. They told me I need to bring my replacement Note7 in immediately. "a Second recall is coming very soon" I can exchange it for any phone however since I was leasing the Note7 I only have leasing options for a Samsung S7E, LG or Iphone. Any other phone would need to be purchased outright. I asked about the Pixel XL and they told me that I would have to purchase the unlocked $829 phone outright from Google to bring to Sprint. so this Note7 issues goes from bad to worse for users.

notefreak said:
I would get none. Not giving competition more reasons to gloat.
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You may not have a choice unless you want to use a Gimped phone.
If they do a 2nd recall and cripple the Battery.

notefreak said:
I would get none. Not giving competition more reasons to gloat.
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Ohhh and Samsung has screwed the Pooch but good here.
I've had every Note and this is problem for me...

There is always a choice. Previous phone, no phone at all, 80% phone...

Same boat here. My note 3 was awesome, still works and runs like new ( on MM currently). Still plenty fast. The only dilemma is I gave it to my son already.
I've been using this s7 edge for a few weeks now waiting on the new batch of note 7's. It's very close performance and spec wise. I just refuse to pay full price for this phone though since it's NOT what I wanted. They had me return / refund my note 7 and buy this in its place. They then said I could return it regardless of how long it took to get a new note 7.... but I think that was just the manager of the store looking out for me. What if I keep this and he gets transferred during the wait, as it looks like this will take a while.
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Would you buy next years Samsung Phones without the S-Pen?

Ok, here's the deal. The reason I purchased the Note 7 was the S-Pen. All the other features like VR came along nicely, but to be frank, the real incentive for me was the Pen. Without it, I wouldn't give so much money for a phone. 4k VR? Rather wait for any other cheaper phone to catch up to 4k VR like maybe the google pixel or one plus 5 or something...
Since we are in the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 forums and not the S7 or S7 Edge forums, it means that you guys reading this opted to wait a few months to get the Note 7 specifically instead the S7 or S7 Edge. So, I figured that maybe these guys here are also hooked on the S Pen.
Thus the following question...
Let say that next years Samsung Flagship Big Screen Phones have no S-Pen... Would you still buy one?
Don't forget to vote!

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Ok, here's the deal. The reason I purchased the Note 7 was the S-Pen. All the other features like VR came along nicely, but to be frank, the real incentive for me was the Pen. Without it, I wouldn't give so much money for a phone. 4k VR? Rather wait for any other cheaper phone to catch up to 4k VR like maybe the google pixel or one plus 5 or something...
Since we are in the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 forums and not the S7 or S7 Edge forums, it means that you guys reading this opted to wait a few months to get the Note 7 specifically instead the S7 or S7 Edge. So, I figured that maybe these guys here are also hooked on the S Pen.
Thus the following question...
Let say that next years Samsung Flagship Big Screen Phones have no S-Pen... Would you still buy one?
Don't forget to vote!
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I probably would
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No
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No. I need the S-pen
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No. If I didn't care for the s pen that much I would of replaced my Note7 a long time ago.

Knowing myself, I may end up with it... that said, a Note without pen would be a bit useless, it's one of their main selling points, so I don't see why they would ever do that.

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Knowing myself, I may end up with it... that said, a Note without pen would be a bit useless, it's one of their main selling points, so I don't see why they would ever do that.
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Yea. The pen wasn't the issue with the Note 7s. But just saying I think people are curious if that's a do or don't cutoff point for some people. I thought I'd have a lot of issues with this s7 edge after being an avid note user the past few years. I've been fine actually. Now, of course I'd love a pen again but for now this works.
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For sure. It's why I'm back to Note 5. There is no way to effectively take lengthy notes during meetings for me. I tried using deterrent capacitive styli, but it just didn't work.
I'm hooked on my s-pen. I will say at least the Note 7 tips feel really nice in my Note 5 stylus.

No

I don't use the S-Pen all that much actually. So the next Samsung phone without the stylus is definitely an option.
That said, I'm also not a Samsung loyalist. I've had my hands on several smartphone brands, starting with HTC, Motorola, Xiaomi and Sony. And I've never gave LG a go, so I'm getting the V20 next.
I just won't get an Apple. Android's flexibility in file management is just too damn good for me to use iPhone as my daily driver.

no, I want the pen and slightly bigger screen without the useless curves.

If it was at least 5.7 screen, IP68 and coral blue then yes, reluctantly. Would greatly prefer it with the s-pen.

I'm not buying the s8 without an s pen. There are too many good and cheaper alternatives. The OnePlus3, the up coming Mate9, why spend lots on phones that have no major differentiator (which the note series was).

Without S-pen, I would look elsewhere. Many a phone out there without the premium pricing and good specs.

No
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I'm not quite sure why anyone would pay for a note and NOT get the stylus it is the biggest factor that separates the Note from the S series.
The answer is no; if there is never another stylus phone (very unlikely) I will probably stick to LG. Removable battery and external memory on every model? Yes please. Allows me to get batteries beyond factory capacities.
Removable battery means no planned obsolescence (which is exactly why manufacturers put in the non removable design to push you to upgrade when the battery dies).
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