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[Q] Galaxy Note 2 Still Worth Buying?

In a sticky situation right now. My phone just died on Verizon and I need a new phone. Unfortunately I'm still under contract for another 9 months so I have to pay full price for a new phone or I can jump to Tmobile and have them pay my ETF but then I have to buy a phone from them. I don't want to spend more then $350 on something and I want to be able to unlock it and use it with AT&T at some point.
I can pick up the Note 2 as a refurb for $344 or I can get a Nexus 4 for $324. I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not the Note 2 is worth spending that much on?? Should I just ride out my contract for 9 months and get my old phone fixed (Razr Maxx HD $200 to fix)? Is there another phone I should consider?
Any thoughts appreciated.

Nexus 4 for $342?? I can't even sell my brand new Nexus 4 for $180 AUD.
I would not get a refurb Note II for $344, it's not worth it. You can get brand new for a bit more online.

kuromusha38 said:
Nexus 4 for $342?? I can't even sell my brand new Nexus 4 for $180 AUD.
I would not get a refurb Note II for $344, it's not worth it. You can get brand new for a bit more online.
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If I pay $200 to get out of my contract with Verizon I can get anything. I'm looking at jumping to Tmobile since they'll cover the ETF cost. Only catch is I have to buy a phone from them. So whats a good Tmobile phone that will work on ATT under $350? I'm trying to do this as cheap as possible. Otherwise I would just cancel for $200 and get a nexus 5 for $400.

Hi there,
YES it is still worth buying the Note 2. I had both phones, Nexus 4 and Note 2 and the Nexus 4, compared to the Note 2, was garbage. Nexus 4s battery is small (mAh), display colors were washed out, the speaker was completely crap when listening to music, etc. That's just my experience.
Better get the Note 2

I moved on to the Galaxy S5 and maaaan, do I miss my Note 2. That's all I need to say LOL

Okay so price of the note 2 refurb'd w/tax and shipping is about $330. I know I can buy brand new on Amazon for roughly $60 more but I have to buy from Tmobile if I want my ETF covered and they only sell a refurb'd note 2.
I'll probably go this route then unless there are any other suggestions. Thanks!

Absolutely! Its still fast as hell, even on KitKat and Im sure will remain to be so for the near future.

Note 2 still kick ass and I love it. But I think u should get a newer phone.
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naeem86 said:
Note 2 still kick ass and I love it. But I think u should get a newer phone.
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If you can find it around $350 , I would say yes

I bought note 2 over s4 and i am perfectly satisfied

mubeenshahid said:
I bought note 2 over s4 and i am perfectly satisfied
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I'd take Note 2 over S4 (even S5) any time!

Allow me give you my opinion on this. I strongly believe the Note 2 is a remarkable device for the following reasons and I would still chose it over any other phones.
- It still has one of the best battery life of Samsung devices. I know... the Note 3 has 100mah more but that doesn't suffice, having a 1080p screen, more pixels means more drainage. Also, it has a more powerful octa-core processor (a nice pro) but again with great power comes even greater battery drainage, remember that.... lol The Knox app components which constantly guards the phone from illegal privileged access is also a resource hog (RAM) and hiders the phone even more (coming from 4.3 I have that experience). Take a look at the Huawei Ascend Mate 2, they are doing it correctly... keeping 720p resolution (which is dense enough imo) and a gigantic 4050mah, make it the longest running phone (not tablet) on the market at the time of this writing.
- The screen is 720p, as I discussed already has its benefits on battery, furthermore, it is the only flagship device by Samsung that isn't pentile. This means full RGB sub-pixel for every single pixel. It is a true-HD display. While its not as dense as other phones, it still can hold its ground very well. I am scared for the note 4, Samsung will make it a 2k display, instead of focusing on what really matters. 2k on screens below 7inches is a waste of technology. 10-12 inch tablet with 2k displays and larger batteries, now you are talking.
- It is made polycarbonate plastic, as with all Samsung phones, can be regarded as a pro. As CPUs get faster it generates more heat. Metals heat very quickly and can make you feel uncomfortable when holding while running CPU-intensive tasks. I think even though metals can dissipate heat well, if run too long it, exposes the internals to heat and wear the internals faster. But one definite pro of polycarbonate is improved reception, I assure you, along with other benefits, naturally scratch resistant, lighter, and more durable. When I look at a phone, I don't care for "premium feel", I care for quality of operation.
- Lastly, camera. Sadly, I must admit the Note 2 doesn't have the top optics, as it improves rapidly with technology. But after lots and lots of reading and comparing, I found that the Galaxy S4 has produces the best quality/sharpness/color IHMO, bar NONE (not even Lumia 1020 which captures more detail, but fails at color reproduction). The Note 2 does inherit the S4's color reproduction traits, so that's good. But the best all-rounder (ie. in low light, good light, night mode etc) I have to give it to Iphone 5s. Well done Apple, even if you do not belong here. lol
Video strangely doesn't fall into the same category as photo, as the S4 gives murky, blurry 1080p videos. For the best video I nominate the S5 at 4k, clear even when zoomed in at the slightest detail, thanks to 16MP camera. This is improvement from what used to be the best, Note 3, which is blurred when zoomed in. No, optical image stabilization sadly, but that comes later. Even so the Note 2, doesn't slouch and gives its best in both categories. It also produces the loudest audio, and all devices after the S4 has poor speaker sound quality.
So, there you have it, my long explanation of why I would still choose the Note 2 over S4, Note 3, or S5, even if it breaks now. Samsung really hit the nail on the head when it made the S3/Note 2 generation, and I hope they will again someday. Was the very best, make history, and set a good example for generations to follow.

Thanks everyone! Definitely helped make this decision much easier than I thought it would be. My note 2 arrives today and then I'll active it with T-mobile. I plan on unlocking it after the 40 day wait period is up with T-mobile and bringing it over to AT&T. From my research that shouldn't be an issue as T-mobile and AT&T share all the same bands outside of one that AT&T uses for 4G LTE. Curious to know if anyone has done this previously?
On another note (no pun intended :laugh, I've been looking into installing a custom ROM once I get it. I love cyanogenmod but curious if there are other recommendations I should consider? This may need to be in another thread so I can move it if needed.

I bought my Note 2 about 450$ in Samsung brand shop at April 2014, it worth because my work need 3G always on to check email or contact with boss (my country not have 4G LTE)

eknee1417 said:
On another note (no pun intended :laugh, I've been looking into installing a custom ROM once I get it. I love cyanogenmod but curious if there are other recommendations I should consider? This may need to be in another thread so I can move it if needed.
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In my opinion, CyanogenMod isn't a good idea for this phone. It has some annoying bugs and you lose ALL the SPen features. I'd recommend you to install any TouchWiz based Rom.

Note 2 screen is outdated though.

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Yeah, original Note screen is better

I had a Note 2 and bought a Nexus 4 as backup when my Note 2 was being repaired. I was thinking that I might switch to Nexus as android is a big interest of mine and it would be wonderful to get all the new features quick.
It was a big relief to get my Note 2 back from the shop. The Nexus 4 doesn't last a whole day (with my usage pattern). The external speaker volume is to low. And its very slippery! (had to buy the LG bumper).
Recently upgraded to a Sony Z2 and it feels like a smaller upgrade than I expected, coming from the Note 2. Its was/is an awesome phone.

Any Nexus 6P owners upgrading to the Note 7?

Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.

PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.

i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did

I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.

Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.

galaxys said:
I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.

ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.

Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7

I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring

borisb said:
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.

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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.

gekkehenkie11 said:
I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.

yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...

Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.

The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.

I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here

Is it still a good choice?

hi guys,
Let's consider that in 1 or 2 months everything will be back to normal and Note 7 will be back in stores and no one will be harmed again and the buzz is gone.
I don't imagine that Samsung will change the screen Gorilla Glass 5 to something less fragile in addition to the battery, so this will still be a weakness for this phone, because to MHO this seems to be its only real flaw (except the battery), Android Nougat will certainly arrive in few months from now too.
so my questions are these ones:
- Will it still be the best phone of the year?
- Won't we have more difficulties to sell it back within 1-2 years from now without loosing too much?
- Is it still worth buying it?
Also,
If it's still one of the best phones of the year, is it worth waiting Christmas period for hoping having promotions and discounts or Samsung has already lost enough with it and will not provide any more discount on this model and will focus his promotions on his other flagships S7 & coming new ones?

It's the best Android device available right now. If re-sale value and GG5 bother you then yes, it's worth considering those points further. Spec wise, no, it's not matched in the Android space.
I would imagine (I could be wrong) that Samsung will be desperate to put the Note 7 behind them and release the S8 ASAP to do a massive ad campaign and regain some lost sales.
Yes the Note 7 price will drop, yes resale value will be affected by that drop. You will have a fantastic device and if keeping for even 12 months in my opinion it's worth while.

Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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All know that Note7 is epic and I rly doubt it will lose value unless sammy rly drop it's price when S8 will come. Best phone? To iPPL it will never be the best phone, looking at android world the price is not so great but if you put it aside it's sure the best phone of this year... Anyway I don't care. I will get mine and be happy if S8E will be cool I might try selling the N7 and move on. Usually my phone last me 2-3 years and which point I wan't to get a new one.

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Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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I see you posting this in numerous posts. What is it of?

Man, come on, what other device would offer all the fantastic characteristics of the note 7?
one plus 3? it is cheap looking an wayy larger
lg v20? same , but even larger, not to mention the horrible sec display
iphone 7? same looking 2015 device larger and slave-bound
so, what do you feel like to choose?

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Man, come on, what other device would offer all the fantastic characteristics of the note 7?
one plus 3? it is cheap looking an wayy larger
lg v20? same , but even larger, not to mention the horrible sec display
iphone 7? same looking 2015 device larger and slave-bound
so, what do you feel like to choose?
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True. Samsung may have screwed the model reputation, but there is nothing like it currently. Maybe the Pixel phones will change that, but still, they'll be ugly and only geeks (us included) will go for it, so the note 7 will maintain a moderate resell value for those looking for phones in 2nd hand.

I don't play any games on my phone, I use it for business (we do sales via a company app with clients so it's a must), tasks, reading, podcasts and of course messaging. For what I need it's just perfect, I remember worrying what I'd do without root since I had my S3 rooted and that was 4 years of acclimation, now I don't even remember the idea of rooting until I see it mentioned on some forum or article (I know, blasphemy around here, sorry ).
I also (possibly more blasphemy) *like* Touchwiz on it! I had Good Lock on my original N7 until sending it back other day, and it was a nice throwback to the rooted stock Android look I was used to on my S3, but I actually wanted the Touchwiz back! Got replacement N7 and am not even considering Good Lock, it's sexy and I'm happy with it.

Would you buy next years Samsung Phones without the S-Pen?

Ok, here's the deal. The reason I purchased the Note 7 was the S-Pen. All the other features like VR came along nicely, but to be frank, the real incentive for me was the Pen. Without it, I wouldn't give so much money for a phone. 4k VR? Rather wait for any other cheaper phone to catch up to 4k VR like maybe the google pixel or one plus 5 or something...
Since we are in the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 forums and not the S7 or S7 Edge forums, it means that you guys reading this opted to wait a few months to get the Note 7 specifically instead the S7 or S7 Edge. So, I figured that maybe these guys here are also hooked on the S Pen.
Thus the following question...
Let say that next years Samsung Flagship Big Screen Phones have no S-Pen... Would you still buy one?
Don't forget to vote!

nomailx said:
Ok, here's the deal. The reason I purchased the Note 7 was the S-Pen. All the other features like VR came along nicely, but to be frank, the real incentive for me was the Pen. Without it, I wouldn't give so much money for a phone. 4k VR? Rather wait for any other cheaper phone to catch up to 4k VR like maybe the google pixel or one plus 5 or something...
Since we are in the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 forums and not the S7 or S7 Edge forums, it means that you guys reading this opted to wait a few months to get the Note 7 specifically instead the S7 or S7 Edge. So, I figured that maybe these guys here are also hooked on the S Pen.
Thus the following question...
Let say that next years Samsung Flagship Big Screen Phones have no S-Pen... Would you still buy one?
Don't forget to vote!
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I probably would
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No. I need the S-pen
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No. If I didn't care for the s pen that much I would of replaced my Note7 a long time ago.

Knowing myself, I may end up with it... that said, a Note without pen would be a bit useless, it's one of their main selling points, so I don't see why they would ever do that.

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Knowing myself, I may end up with it... that said, a Note without pen would be a bit useless, it's one of their main selling points, so I don't see why they would ever do that.
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Yea. The pen wasn't the issue with the Note 7s. But just saying I think people are curious if that's a do or don't cutoff point for some people. I thought I'd have a lot of issues with this s7 edge after being an avid note user the past few years. I've been fine actually. Now, of course I'd love a pen again but for now this works.
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For sure. It's why I'm back to Note 5. There is no way to effectively take lengthy notes during meetings for me. I tried using deterrent capacitive styli, but it just didn't work.
I'm hooked on my s-pen. I will say at least the Note 7 tips feel really nice in my Note 5 stylus.

No

I don't use the S-Pen all that much actually. So the next Samsung phone without the stylus is definitely an option.
That said, I'm also not a Samsung loyalist. I've had my hands on several smartphone brands, starting with HTC, Motorola, Xiaomi and Sony. And I've never gave LG a go, so I'm getting the V20 next.
I just won't get an Apple. Android's flexibility in file management is just too damn good for me to use iPhone as my daily driver.

no, I want the pen and slightly bigger screen without the useless curves.

If it was at least 5.7 screen, IP68 and coral blue then yes, reluctantly. Would greatly prefer it with the s-pen.

I'm not buying the s8 without an s pen. There are too many good and cheaper alternatives. The OnePlus3, the up coming Mate9, why spend lots on phones that have no major differentiator (which the note series was).

Without S-pen, I would look elsewhere. Many a phone out there without the premium pricing and good specs.

No
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I'm not quite sure why anyone would pay for a note and NOT get the stylus it is the biggest factor that separates the Note from the S series.
The answer is no; if there is never another stylus phone (very unlikely) I will probably stick to LG. Removable battery and external memory on every model? Yes please. Allows me to get batteries beyond factory capacities.
Removable battery means no planned obsolescence (which is exactly why manufacturers put in the non removable design to push you to upgrade when the battery dies).
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Anyone hesitant due to Pixel 4 XL?

This is the one phone that made me hesitant to get the Note10+. The Project Soli radar stuff and the likely incredible camera plus 90Hz display make that phone seem like it may be special.
But alas, I use my s-pen nonstop and adore it. So this will be the phone for me (eventually, when stupid Samsung ships it).

Got burnt by a canceled order with no real explanation from Samsung. Cannot order again or I will simply lose all the pre-order perks I was entitled to. May wait now for the pixel 4.

I bought the 3XL on release and there were many bugs in the beginning. Google really made me disappointed at first.
I suspect the face unlock feature won't be great and if the rumors are true there will be no wide angle and the design of the device looks kind of dated. 90Hz is great though but so is the s-pen.
If it turns out to be good I'll get one and switch between it and the 10+.

Nah. I'm here because I already made my purchase. I loved my OG Pixel XL, still can spot the photos in my Google drive by how awesome they were but at the same time there were too many quality issues and I hated dealing with their tech support.
And it was a boring experience for me.

You are a beta tester for Google and you pay the price to be. (Always been a Nexus/Pixel user) Everything you bought the Nexus for they took away with Pixel and slapped a bigger price tag on it. Only thing you get thats "better" than other Androids is the Camera but the GCam APK does a pretty good job at making up for it. You will have better hardware and honestly One UI isnt all that bad.

I ported the same GCam apk I ran on my N8 on my N10+ and the results are even better... Can't believe it works beautifully. I mainly use it for NightMode and Photo booth. I'm sure once they tweak the GCAm apk for the 10+ the margin of improvement will be even more pronounced. My 2..
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Not a single hesitation or complaint from me. Love my N10+. When I had my Note 8, I bought a Pixel 2XL and loved it. For about 2 weeks. Then it was just boring, and I missed the SPen, and kept wishing it did the things my Note did. Finally sold it for a Note 9 and never looked back. With GCam, I have no need for a Pixel.

the google phones work ok, but they often miss features of the other third party manufacturers as they are just basic stripped down android.
as for the 90hz screen, for the average user unless you are using VR the difference will likely be negligible at best, you will need to find apps and things capable of pushing 90fps and not locked at 60fps as most apps will be built to support, you are also likely to see a massive increase in battery use as the device is having to generate and place 50% more frames on the screen and the Pixel device batteries have never exactly been top class to start with. so in theory if you are using VR and staying near a charger the 90hz is likely to be an increase if your VR apps support it, but for the most case you are likely to see a battery use increase for little real world improvement.

Nope I will have both, as long as pixel gets me excited!

PsiPhiDan said:
This is the one phone that made me hesitant to get the Note10+. The Project Soli radar stuff and the likely incredible camera plus 90Hz display make that phone seem like it may be special.
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Exaclty for the same reasons, Yes.
I grabbed the Sammy everytime on prebooking, not this time. I might still have it for separate reasons, just will not be with me as daily driver for long.

oneandroidnut said:
Nope I will have both, as long as pixel gets me excited!
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I've never understood how people have two phones. How's that even work?

PsiPhiDan said:
I've never understood how people have two phones. How's that even work?
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Easy. See you buy one phone. Then you keep it, and buy another phone, and keep that one as well.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Easy. See you buy one phone. Then you keep it, and buy another phone, and keep that one as well.
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Haha, I guess I had that coming...
Do you have two phone numbers?
How do you choose what phone you use any given day?
How do you afford that and get a theoretical spouse on board with that? ?

Ok you guys made me want to try gcam. Where and how do I install it? Does it need root?

PsiPhiDan said:
Haha, I guess I had that coming...
Do you have two phone numbers?
How do you choose what phone you use any given day?
How do you afford that and get a theoretical spouse on board with that? ?
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Yes I have two lines. One was a free line from T-Mobile. It will become my daughter's line when she turns 12, but for now, it's my extra line. I use Google Voice, so switching back and forth is no biggie.
How I wound up with two phones: in the past I never bought brand new phones. I bought broke phones on eBay, fixed them, and sold them for a profit. I would save up that money and buy a phone, or just eventually keep one of the phones I fixed. I eventually worked my way up to a S7 Edge. Actually my wife and I both had S7 Edges.
Then when Samsung released the S8+, they had a buy one get one free deal. So I bought four of them. Kept two (one for me, one for my wife), sold the other two, plus my wife's S7 Edge. So our S8 Plues were basically free, and I was able to keep my S7 Edge as a backup phone.
When the Note 8 came out, I didn't immediately upgrade. But about 3 months after it was released, I snagged one off FB Marketplace for $400. Sold my S7 Edge for $225 and kept my S8+ as a backup.
Same for Note 9. Found a cheap one used, sold the S8+, kept the Note 8.
This is the first time in a few years I have been down to one phone. I sold my Note 8 for $400 and used that to buy a Galaxy Tab S4 for $400. (which I just sold today for $400, LOL). I traded my Note 9 in on my N10+, so it's also the first time in a couple years since I've had a brand new phone, and I'm preordering a Tab S6, too.
How do I get my wife on board? I upgrade her phone as well. And she knows I never pay full price for a phone. Each time I upgrade, it's usually for almost free or just a couple hundred bucks.
For example, because of me selling a phone, trading in a phone, getting some cash back on a credit card, my Note 10+ cost me $131 total. My Tab S6 will cost me about $108 total.
My wife's S10+ cost me $250. That S8+ I bought her brand new (which was basically free)...I sold it on FB Market place for $400. I then bought her a used S9+ for $400. When the S10+ was released, I traded her SO+ in for $550. And I had a $250 cash back offer on a credit card at the time too. It's all about moving money around, buying and selling, and looking for good deals.

People go with pixel for the camera ,and the early software update ...but rather than that ...Galaxy phones are better in any other way

koppee1 said:
Ok you guys made me want to try gcam. Where and how do I install it? Does it need root?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/

moralesd66 said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
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None for note 10?

Dropping off my N10+ at UPS this morning. Phone didn't blow my tits off like I was hoping it would. Juice is not worth the squeeze on this one, IMO. Pixel 4 may do it for me but we'll see.

koppee1 said:
None for note 10?
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Phone was just released 2 days ago lol. Try the N8 or n9 versions. Same sensors.