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Should I buy the Note II?

I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
So, my question is, do you guys think I should buy the Galaxy Note II or the Galaxy S III? I also seen that the new LG Nexus 4 is quite nice, but with the flaw of not having expandable storage from what I've been able to gather. Or, do you guys have any phones that you would recommend that's pretty high end and expected to be good? I'm not buying my phone for at least a month, so I'm starting my research now.

The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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Thank you for your recommendation. I'm going to do more digging into the phones to see what would be the best for me. But I'm unfortunately one of those techies that like my equipment to be high end and very pretty..

Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size

heatfire said:
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
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Well, on my current phone (Galaxy W CM9 Beta 1) I used to do a lot of web browsing, but, my current phone right now isn't playing very nice with me and Dolphin. I tend to do a lot of texting, as well. If I have the time in college or out and about I may watch a few things, depending on battery. It does seem like a brilliant choice. But, the 5.5 inches does sound rather insane! But the pen does come in handy a great deal. The Note II is the top contender for me, right now. No other phone even amounts to how amazing it is to me.

Note 2 is simply the best phone yet. And size is really good. Felt like it was designed for me after several hours of use. And the battery is so goood
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Well, I think it's decided! Thank you guys. I really do need something with good battery. I was worried that with the massive screen and overwhelming processor that the poor wee battery wouldn't be able to cope! The Galaxy W has terrible battery life when the data is active, which is something I tend to use a lot.

the size is huge but you get used to it, and i gotta say i love the pen for writing notes you can have a small notepad pop up every time you remove the pen im not a huge fan of onscreen keyboards and writing with the pen is very comfortable with almost no lag on the input.
was in the hospital for 4 days and the note 1 phone saved me with its huge screen, i watched youtube and movies and never felt the screen beeing to small or got eyestrain from its size.
Battery time is amazing on the note 2 also. about 8 hours watching movies twice what the first note could do, and the same the iphone 5 can do
ive seen some reports of even 10 hours watching movies
i dont see my phone as large any more, its normal its the other phones thats small.. smartphones should be about 5" with all this CPU power!

You should buy the note 2 because there is no other phone on the market now that can perform better than it benchmark test prove that.

zaslamel42 said:
I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.

Silent25r said:
I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.

When note7000 came I regret buying it. When I heard of note7100 ive learned. I know that's the one I've been waiting. The next big thing right in my hands no regrets.

"This thing is BIG" .... that's what she said

zaslamel42 said:
See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.

If you get the note 2 you will end up selling the note 10.1... I own a note 1 (waiting for my note 2 to arrive) and I had a galaxy tab 10.1 p7500.. I bought my tab back when I had a gnexus and was very useful but since I got the note 1, I didn't use my tab at all so I've sold it because it was just a dust collector...
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Silent25r said:
After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm happy with your input. The Note 10.1 is brilliant for college related stuff because I have a desktop, meaning with my Note 10.1 I'm able to sit downstairs to study. It's also great for college because of how light weight it is. I just pop it in my bag and off I go. The way I use it is quite productive, for me. When fixing PC's it's normally so that I can have certain things up on the screen such as instructions, videos and what not, meaning the bigger screen is still more efficient. I normally have my bag with me when fixing PC's so it's again, on my person and easily carried. I went with the Note 10.1 over a laptop because of 1.) It's lighter 2.) Faster to boot up and operate, since everything in android is small (for the most part) and 3.) A laptop would be a waste, considering I have a high-end desktop. I did plan out what I needed before making the decision of getting one. As a programmer, though.. I work on Visual Studio for college and my own C# projects, but with Android - when I go to learn to develop on it - I will be programming with a mixture of AIDE and Eclipse. AIDE is an APK in android that lets you design apps straight from your device, then build and test them, too. It also syncs with your workspace for on the go.
But, I do thank you for your honesty. My set up is ideal for me, so far. Just that my phones a bit rubbish because of the lack of ram. I still need to look more into what is out there. Money is a bit of a factor so if I can get something that's pretty great with a lower price tag I'll probably jump on it.

aaah galaxy note 2 may be best for me
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games

shameless15 said:
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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If you want an android phone for gaming I'd recommend a T3 device like the HTC One X+. T3 has exclusive THD games however Gameloft games don't work as well as not optimised properly for T3.
None the less GN2 is still packing some gaming power behind it.

A simple answer to your question is. If you are buying a smart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for something less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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EvoYas said:
A simole answer to your question is. If youbare buying a snart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for aomething less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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Aha, top lad! I'm hoping that the 32Gb/64Gb version is out by next month! Samsung never have enough chips to actually release those modes. (

Name 10 things you love about your Note 2

I love everything about this damn phone. But I want everyone to share 5 things they love about the Note 2. I'll start.
1.5.5 inches of screen never gets old to me. This is perfect for anything you want to do on the phone.
2. Quad Core. Not a HUGE difference from dual core while navigating the os, but games have a direct benefit from it.
3.Removable Battery. Not that I need it cause our battery life is so awesome but I purchased 6 extra batterys off of eBay. How much you say? $25. Believe it.
4.MicroSD. My 64gb card combined with the 16gb internal makes about 73gb. That's shared space for apps, music, videos, pictures, and backups. I don't get why Google thinks 16gb is enough anymore. I wont be able to get another nexus if they put only 16gb in the next one. I know the Nexus 4s price point is sweet and everything but god dammit that's a flagship phone. And the 8gb nexus is a joke. What does that have out of the box? 5gb? Whew lol. That turned into a rant didn't it.
5. Gaming. Need for Speed, Vice City, Call of Duty, and PSX look stunning. Obviously in part to 1 and 2. But this is the main reason I never put my phone down
Extra Reason. I'm only mentioning this cause I came from the VZW Nexus. Battery life is amazing. I could do whatever I want and never be nervous about being stranded somewhere with a dead phone. No one likes that sh*t. With my nexus, I would have to literally underclock most of the day just to make it to 8 o clock. With the Note 2, 6 batterys, and great battery life to begin with, I have what I like to call "Mobile Supremacy ”.

Damn Kii keyboard. I meant 5. 10 or 5. Whichever lmao.

I'd turn that question around and ask what you don't. Because I wouldn't be able to give you an answer.
Sent from galaxy note 2, tablet in my pocket! ^_^

Yep, dumped my Nexus 4 for my Note 2 (T-Mo).
AOSP is neat, but the hardware just sucks. Not worth even the asking price. It's a simple little average phone. The Note 2 is the best phone on the market - this is a fact.

The title of this thread sounds like something you'd see on the iPhone forums.
I love the big double-D data cups because they are really fun to remove at night.

Should i return my droid turbo for a note 4?

I just got a droid turbo 64gb ballistic nylon ..I am coming from a galaxy s3 and i was trying to choose between the 2 and thought maybe the note 4 might be too big but after getting home etc im having a bit of buyers remorse.. naked android is fine and all but im not really going to use the moto voice functions and the camera is meh.. the bigger note is a little imposing but if i can handle 5.2 on the turbo fine i figure 5.7 is fine as well .. i almost never 1handed use (im 6ft big hands anyways) and after seeing some s pen demos and camera shot im close to returning my turbo for a note 4... i would love some pros and cons of the note 4 and any experiences you guys have owning your note 4 thanks in advance

I would. The note 4 is a nice phone and I really like. I'm coming from a mdk S4. I had the same question as you for size. The size is perfect.

thanks my wife has an s5 and we have a galaxy tab and i bought her a gear 2 neo smartwatch for xmas i should have stayed in the family

Remember that you are in a note 4 forum so there will be some bias. I love the note. Came from the note 2. I have 0 regrets and I love the s pen. It is a game changer. Camera is pretty good. It is a larger phone but to me not too big. Although I will say I hope they don't go any bigger. One handed operation is not an issue for anyone because of the 1 quick 1 handed operation feature. All you do is swipe back and forth from the sides and it shrinks the whole screen to that side. And you can also adjust that screen. Bigger or smaller. I attached a picture but not sure how if it shows it.
Biggest deal breakers are no SD card and no battery. I love my 128gb SD card and with 5.0 allowing apps to save data to the SD card again makes it even better.
I will say that if you like to root it is not looking good. I would not get this phone on hopes that it will get root and unlocked bootloader. But to honest, I don't miss it at all. This is coming from someone who has jail broken/rooted every single phone.
Just my 2¢. Good luck.
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furfmonkey said:
I just got a droid turbo 64gb ballistic nylon ..I am coming from a galaxy s3 and i was trying to choose between the 2 and thought maybe the note 4 might be too big but after getting home etc im having a bit of buyers remorse.. naked android is fine and all but im not really going to use the moto voice functions and the camera is meh.. the bigger note is a little imposing but if i can handle 5.2 on the turbo fine i figure 5.7 is fine as well .. i almost never 1handed use (im 6ft big hands anyways) and after seeing some s pen demos and camera shot im close to returning my turbo for a note 4... i would love some pros and cons of the note 4 and any experiences you guys have owning your note 4 thanks in advance
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Eventually note 4 is my choice, which great camera quality.

Android_Fr3ak said:
Remember that you are in a note 4 forum so there will be some bias. I love the note. Came from the note 2. I have 0 regrets and I love the s pen. It is a game changer. Camera is pretty good. It is a larger phone but to me not too big. Although I will say I hope they don't go any bigger. One handed operation is not an issue for anyone because of the 1 quick 1 handed operation feature. All you do is swipe back and forth from the sides and it shrinks the whole screen to that side. And you can also adjust that screen. Bigger or smaller. I attached a picture but not sure how if it shows it.
Biggest deal breakers are no SD card and no battery. I love my 128gb SD card and with 5.0 allowing apps to save data to the SD card again makes it even better.
I will say that if you like to root it is not looking good. I would not get this phone on hopes that it will get root and unlocked bootloader. But to honest, I don't miss it at all. This is coming from someone who has jail broken/rooted every single phone.
Just my 2¢. Good luck.
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this. i am rocking my note 4 with 160 gb of total space and 3 removable batteries. i am selling my nexus 6 which doesnt have sdcard or removable battery. dump the turbo man. even though note only has 16 mp camera i think the software is better therefore it takes better photos then the turbo. This is my perfect phone!

I came from the Droid Turbo Ballistic 64 gig and can say without a doubt the Note4 is a better device all around. The build quality is better, the screen is larger, extSD support and the camera is quicker. I'm 6ft with big hands too and prefer the larger phone. The Turbo is a nice phone but the lack of a extSD, removable battery and no reboot option from the power menu killed it for me. Both have no root for the retail but that isn't a issue for me, there are two other rooted S5's here in case I get bored. I had the Turbo for two weeks, the stock Android got really boring and the camera lag was horrible. Both cameras aren't the best with the stock app so I would suggest a 3rd party app like A Better Camera. I ended up purchasing the app but the free version was nearly just as good. To sum it up I'm happy with my decision to go back to Samsung and the Note4.

Ok guys i pulled the trigger.. I called Verizon and i got the last black note 4 they had in stock .. (at first she told me only white then hold on a few seconds and someone just cancelled their order) I don't even have to leave my home . The new note 4 is being mailed to me and i just have to put the turbo in the box and slap on a prepaid label and im all done and its only like $2 more a month .. thanks for the feedback and i look forward to sharing my stories with my note 4

Good choice
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You will love it

I like droid turbo and where Motorola is going with their devices but...they're just not quite there yet imo. Note 4 is just a better phone all around if you don't mind touchwiz

I too started with the turbo ballistic backing 64 gig version. I wanted to love that phone but turned out that the note 4 was just a better choice for me. The turbo IMO is a sweet looking phone more so than my note 4 but the wow factor didn't seem to match up with the hype I've heard people talking about . don't get me wrong it's a very nice phone but after getting used to the size of the note 3 it just seemed like the turbo was tiny which it isn't but just felt that way. I also didn't like the fact that you couldn't pull the battery and no SD slot. I liked the note 3 I had but I love the note 4 so far. It's fast has a beautiful screen and battery lasts longer than I thought it would. And another big plus with me is that all of my other phones use the same size sim as the note 4 so I can switch phone anytime I want. If I would have kept the turbo then i could only use that one phone with the sim that it took. If Verizon still had the 30 day period maybe I would have been able to really test out the turbo but only having 2 weeks I went ahead and returned it for the 4 which turns out was right f decision. Jesse
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IMHO if you are not a phone junky, not someone who actually uses your phone all day, or actually if your not a person who is into Android enough to read this website.... Then the Turbo is the better phone. Especially if you've been an iPhone person and this is your first Android.
BUUUUT, if you know a little, and actually understand what touch wiz is comparabley, the the Note 4 is miles ahead.
Ignorance is bliss

I just got the note 4 yday, had to exchange it cause mine was defective. While waiting, I played with the turbo and was impressed. I like the heavy duty feel it has. Makes it feel less fragile than the note and I'm really hating touchwiz right now. Really debating on taking the turbo.

had a note 2 and have a note 3. i *just* got a turbo thinking the extra battery and more accurate gps/compass (you note 3 owners know what i mean) would be more important but I already have buyer's remorse.
as much as people bag on touchwiz, the added features are something i find extremely useful. quick toggles, lockscreen shortcuts. all the settings tiles. these things are not there on the turbo and with no root it won't be happening any time soon.
i thought i could move on, and i can't. i'll be putting in for an exchange tomorrow.
and, fwiw, the compass/gps doesn't seem much better than the note 3 and the battery life is certainly not that of a phone with 3900mAh on tap. totally disappointed. its a great phone, but it i thought it would be better, and it's not.

Should I upgrade to Note 5 or the iphone 6splus?

I have the eclipse v3 rom on my phone so I hardly notice anything missing when I compare to the note 4.
I am planning on buying a new phone.. Can't decide between iphone 6splus and the note 5. What do you think would be a better choice that I wouldn't regret in 2 months?

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I have the eclipse v3 rom on my phone so I hardly notice anything missing when I compare to the note 4.
I am planning on buying a new phone.. Can't decide between iphone 6splus and the note 5. What do you think would be a better choice that I wouldn't regret in 2 months?
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if you used android for some time, then you would be disappointed with iPhone. I used both for a long time and can't understand Apple success - it is like going back to 2010, but that's just my opinion.
I also have S5 and N2 and I have to tell, that those are worth every single $

In my opinion I wouldn't go with either!
Apple well I haven't owned any and not even interested in their lame technology!
Note 5 on the other hand has some good features but the lack of sd card slot is a deal breaker and Samsung should know they screwed up and as a result I wouldn't encourage people to give their hard earned money and support a practice like that!
I would suggest you keep your note 4 it's an amazing device and also keep your money for a better device note 5 edge or note 6 whatever they will through at us!
Just support the cause we are the customer and they shall listen to what we want!
It's your call tho what device you want but you won't read satisfied word about Apple here!
Good luck man and I hope you enjoy your new device if you decided to go with either!

If I were you, I would wait until Google announces the new nexus 2015 lineup. As the phone and technology gets old, software updates is the key to keep your old phone alive. Software updates are more important if you are a person who does not change phones every year.
But if you have cash and you have the option to buy a new and latest phone every year, go with the Note 5 in phablet space. If you want to try something different in Android, go with the LG G4. It is equally powerful and has an awesome camera, removable battery, sd card etc.. Both devices are certainly good for power users if you like rooting and flashing etc..
I would suggest Apple products only for simple users (who only make phone calls, text, watch videos and play games). 2 main advantages of using Apple products are software support and app market. Even a 4 year old iphone 4s has the latest official ios 9 running, which is highly impossible for Android devices (unless a nexus). Secondly, the latest apps come to iOS first and then android. Its not much bigger deal as android usually gets it 1 or 2 weeks later, but just saying. Also iOS has many optimized apps for its phones, Android ones are also great, but you don't have to be power user to install apps like greenify etc to optimize the phone.
So my final suggestion is, if you are a power user or have money to buy a new phone every year, go for android (new nexus 2015 or note 5 or lg g4). But if you want something very simple, easy to use, go for an iPhone.

Doesnt jailbreaking make the iphone better? I have never owned an iphone. But people can't stop talking about it.
I keep rooting my phone and trying all the possible roms on it. Otherwise I get bored with it. It would be a bummer if iphone is just for calling, texting and games. I have the note 2.. not the note 4

Yea jailbreaking does improve some functionality of the iPhone.. but i would not recommend it bcoz of many crashes and poor stability. I jailbreaked my ipad and it sucked..

Moving On

I just wanted to see who would be switching from android to ios due to the recent discontinued Note 7 lineup. I personally have ordered a iphone 7 plus to see how it will work out. Leave your comments below to share your feelings.
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Nop, I like my coffee like I like my phone. Under my control. Don't get me wrong if some one offers me iPhone ill gladly accept but if I have to buy a phone then I like to have as much control over it as possible even tho i dont need that much control but its not to have control.

I'm not giving up on android but after the note 7 fiasco, I'm breaking my loyalty with Sammy. I purchased an op3 and i'm just waiting for it to arrive.

Leaving samsung, and not just because of the note 7, but because of the note 4. Like xateeq, I like control over devices. I'm just gonna wait till a phone I'm interested in gets full perm root and devs within a reasonable amount of time before I buy it regardless of manufacturer (with exceptions of apple and samsung products which I'll never get again)
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I ran an iPhone last week for a week (6s+), just to see how I'd like it: meh. Even with Android being locked down like our Note 4, it natively does more than iOS. And I'm not charged a fortune for every single app. I ran Spiderman 2, Real Racing 3, and Dead Trigger 2 for a week on both. If you set the graphics to high on Android, looked just as nice. After initial loading, load times were identical enough to be inconsequential. And iPhone has no S Pen. I'm also testing out an s7 Edge, which has no S Pen but has Samsung Pay which I've used A LOT. Still, death of Note 7 removes my next choice. So now, I'm stuck debating whether the Note 5 would suffice, or Axon 7, or v20.

If only another manufacturer offered S-Pen functionality and accuracy..
Note 5 isn't much of an upgrade as compared to our Note 4, and the Note 7 has been discontinued..also I've heard Android N for Sammy is more locked down than M, so I'm not sure if the Note 8 (or whatever the next Gen Note is) can ever be rooted..

See me personally, I don't mind not being able to control my device but I have been pretty loyal to samsung all the way back since the s3 and I just find that my battery life and other things are really bad. I wanted to switch just to see how things would be.
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My first smartphone was an iPhone 3G then I had an iPhone 4. After that I switched to Android. I have enjoyed my Android phones way more. I had a S3 then got the Note 4. I am not unhappy with my Note 4, just wish I could root. Rest of device I have no complaints. My next phone was going to be a Note 7, but now I will just wait till next year. Nothing currently peaks my interest enough to spend $800 or more on a cell phone. I have some interest in the Pixel XL and Galaxy S7 Edge, but not enough to get one. My brother and dad have iPhone's. They work for them, but even with all the changes since iPhone 4, it is not enough for me to come back. I like having control of my device. Also, I would never get an iPhone 7 or any future iOS Devices since no headphone jack.

If anyone wants when I get my iphone to let them know how it's working for me let me know.
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After reading that news and still two years on waiting for the Note4 to be unlocked(which will never happen), I am going to leave Samsung and switch to Sony. The idevices can kiss my ass, never going to back IOS

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I'm not sure if the Note 8 (or whatever the next Gen Note is) can ever be rooted..
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If Samsung sells it en masse on contract to the US government, it'll never be rooted. Hopefilly after the Note 7 fiasco (especially with Samsung trying to rush it out ahead of iPhone 7 without fully testing), the government will avoid Note 8, hence increased likelihood of root.
By kid & my wife both wanted iPhones, but I can't bring myself to using it... doesn't do as much as Android IMO. I'll keep running my Note 4 and wait for Samsung to live down this boo-boo and come up with Note 8 that won't blow up.
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I had a hard time trying to decide on what to move on with. Wanted note 7 originally but that's not happening. Wife has iPhone 6 but I'm not big iPhone fan. Love Android. Ended up with a nexus 6p. Half the cost and I can do what ever I want to it. Running 7.1.1 developer preview and it's great. This should do me fine till next year when new devices start coming out.

I had an iphone. Hated it. I do not work the way they want me to work. Let me design my own workflow. Apple ID losing money for the first time in 15 years. Other companies are innovating faster.
I've used lots of phones. LG had severe quality issues, and make sure you never have to get a replacement phone. I swore they just put broken phones back into boxes and mailed them to people as replacements. I got phones that were caked in mud. No kidding. Each replacement 3 or 4 of them was worse than the previous one.
HTC was good. As was Motorola.
But I just love my note 4. No reason to upgrade yet. It's been the perfect phone. I have Samsung TVs, tablets, etc. I like that everything works together. Samsung is innovating very well these days and is nipping on Apple's heals. I'll get the note 8 when it comes out.

As much as I want to switch from note line, I can't let go of the stylus functions. I love I can cut and past pictures and screen shot etc. Can't do that with any phone.

I'll be sticking with my Note 4..as a matter of fact, I'm planning on getting a used non-ATT Note 4 if I can get one for cheap, as I'm not that too impressed with the Note 5 and Note 7 has been pulled off, and I can't let go of the S-Pen Functionality.
I'm also looking at getting a Tab A with S-Pen as a work device, instead of getting a new Note phone if another one comes out..

My phone started behaving bad (random reboots, lags) despite factory reseting and downgrading firmware. I had to buy a new phone. I ended up buying a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge International (SM-G935F). I flashed the Australian (XSA) firmaware on it, and I am very pleased. The phone works wonderfully without any hiccups. It's fully supported through monthly firmware updates, and it has many additional features such as Samsung Pay. I don't even see a reason to root the phone yet. Everything is great, however I do miss the IR blaster and the S-Pen. I'm also scared to drop the phone (glass everywhere, very slippery) even with the Spigen Neo Hybrid case on it.