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Any Nexus 6P owners upgrading to the Note 7?

Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.

PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.

i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did

I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.

Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.

galaxys said:
I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.

ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.

Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7

I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring

borisb said:
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.

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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.

gekkehenkie11 said:
I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.

yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...

Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.

The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.

I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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Nitemare3219 said:
if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here

LG V30+ India Thread

Hi,
As per invites Lg is going to release newest V30+ in India this 13th December 2017. Who's excited?
There are still few things unknown like will we get unlocked device with boot loader unlock available officially in future (too optimistic?), price of the phone and coming with pre installed Oreo?
Feel free to share your views about the device, its performance, updates, customer support etc. here.

About time this thread started!
My wish list:
1. Most importantly, I hope that launch date = availability date. We're done with announcements, LG
2. B&O earphones please - don't shortchange Indian customers
3. Oreo - although not so important for now
4. All colour variants please, especially Moroccan blue
5. Pricing sub 50k would be good.

1. Most importantly, I hope that launch date = availability date. We're done with announcements, LG
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this
also please dont remove quad dac

ravijani said:
Hi,
As per invites Lg is going to release newest V30+ in India this 13th December 2017. Who's excited?
There are still few things unknown like will we get unlocked device with boot loader unlock available officially in future (too optimistic?), price of the phone and coming with pre installed Oreo?
Feel free to share your views about the device, its performance, updates, customer support etc. here.
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Oh crap!
I couldn't wait for India launch so I ordered the V30+ from HK a week ago, its being delivered later on today! Paid 63k total, yikes!!

I have been looking for a good dual SIM phone to upgrade to from my Nexus 6p and right now the only contenders are HTC U11 plus, LG V30, and OP5T. HTC U11 Plus is my ideal phone, but not sure if it launching here. A question to LG device owners here, are their dual SIM phones rootable and will the V30 also be rootable? If it's not rootable, then I''ll have to wait even longer for my next device.
Edit: Never mind looks like root is not available on any of the versions of this phone.

Crazy pricing! Rs45k - available on Amazon exclusively from 18-Dec. But from what I read, no B&O earphones and no Oreo. Also only black & silver colours. But all that is ok given that its almost 20k less than Note 8 and horrendously priced Pixel 2 XL. They'll have to cut pricing now.

shethsa said:
Crazy pricing! Rs45k - available on Amazon exclusively from 18-Dec. But from what I read, no B&O earphones and no Oreo. Also only black & silver colours. But all that is ok given that its almost 20k less than Note 8 and horrendously priced Pixel 2 XL. They'll have to cut pricing now.
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Really Confused after the Price annoucement at Rs45k.
Hi all, I'm new to this awesome site. I am from India.
I'm confused between HTCu 11, HTCu 11 Plus and LG v30+ to buy.
U11 and V30 are available at the same price.
Q1:-Could anyone tell me around when U11+ will come to India?
My experiences with both V20 and G6 have been so horrendous that I had to sell them both within the first month as I could not take in the stutter and awful overnight battery drain and mild heating issues even when I was using it casually(no games or FBook etc).
Q2:- u11 Plus would be priced, even if it does arrive in India, at least Rs 10k-15k ( 150 to 230 American dollars ) higher than U 11. I dont want to spend that much more if the upgrade is not worth it. So is it worth that much?
Please someone... anyone.... do reply
Thanks

I was not at all expecting a price tag of 45K at all. LG phones don't really hold their value, but this price seems very reasonable. About 7k more than OP5t but offering better screen, cameras, audio output through headphone jack , IP68 rating etc. while OP5t 128GB version has double the RAM though and better software. with custom ROM support. Really hard choice to make!!! I still think the U11 plus is the right phone for me, but HTC I don't know what they are doing by not releasing their phone.

Anyone knows about Official bootloader unlock for Indian version? Will it ever come? Anyone with experience in past with lg phones?

saravoxy said:
I was not at all expecting a price tag of 45K at all. LG phones don't really hold their value, but this price seems very reasonable. About 7k more than OP5t but offering better screen, cameras, audio output through headphone jack , IP68 rating etc. while OP5t 128GB version has double the RAM though and better software. with custom ROM support. Really hard choice to make!!! I still think the U11 plus is the right phone for me, but HTC I don't know what they are doing by not releasing their phone.
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It is surprising and it makes me wonder how it differs from the versions sold abroad. Whether anything is missing, the v30 in the uk was launched at £800 cuple of months back, this one works out to £520. The difference is online store margins are less than street retail
oneplus does not have better software. It only has better rom support.
It looks like the india version is the same as the HK one (going by the user manual) , the boot loader will likely be unlockable so forget getting root
unless you import the euro variant which means no warranty in India whereas they get two years
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Xebeck said:
My experiences with both V20 and G6 have been so horrendous that I had to sell them both within the first month as I could not take in the stutter and awful overnight battery drain and mild heating issues even when I was using it casually(no games or FBook etc).
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I had battery drain just one night out of a month i own the v20. A restart fixed it. I would say the one thing The v20 has low drain otherwise averaging 4-6% per 12h with the secondary screen off. Otherwise its 1% per hour and if it faces somewhere bright can be higher as it seems to brighten the screen up on its own irrespective of what auto brightness was set to.
As far as temperature goes this is a cool phone. Won't cross 33 degrees C at fastest charge which happens only with screen off as with all LG phones. The G4 would run five degrees warmer on avg

V30+ unlocked in the US is $930 or ~60k
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1379518-REG/lg_lgus998u_a1usbk_v30_unlocked_phone_black.html
Since when do Indian prices beat US by 15k (!)

One Twelve said:
V30+ unlocked in the US is $930 or ~60k
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1379518-REG/lg_lgus998u_a1usbk_v30_unlocked_phone_black.html
Since when do Indian prices beat US by 15k (!)
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India is basically getting the "$400 gift card" price (where you have to buy two LG devices) without having to buy two phones or any hassle with submitting receipts, forms. They're just getting the final price and even a few dollars less.
U.S.: 2 X $930 (LG V30+) = $1860 - $400 gift card = $1460 / 2 = $730.
And the gift card trick is no longer available in U.S. I was forced to buy a carrier unlocked LG V30 to qualify before the December 2 deadline. My second phone will then be the carrier unlock LG V30+, when it's released. India even beat us on that.
India: $700 LG V30+. (44,900 rupees)

so did anyone pre ordered yet ?

ravijani said:
Anyone knows about Official bootloader unlock for Indian version? Will it ever come? Anyone with experience in past with lg phones?
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Nope. Indian models won't get bootloader unlocking .

sai444 said:
Nope. Indian models won't get bootloader unlocking .
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Thats the only thing holding me back.

ravijani said:
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Thats the only thing holding me back.
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and also need to confirm whether indian units are suffering from display anomalies that are plaguing all of the international units.

sai444 said:
and also need to confirm whether indian units are suffering from display anomalies that are plaguing all of the international units.
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Haven't heard of any display anomalies plaguing ALL of the international units. But people do like to start rumors.
Just like the people who tried to make it a "widespread" problem in the U.S. It wasn't. And since production ramped up in September, it's been even lesser percentage as time goes on.
Sent from my carrier unlocked LG V30 US998

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and also need to confirm whether indian units are suffering from display anomalies that are plaguing all of the international units.
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Read the India Today article on LGV30+ released about 2 days back. It'll tell you a lot

According to one of the reviews I saw on YouTube, it says Made in India at the back of the device. And also B n O earphones are replaced by LG made earphones.

Best budget or mid-range 6-inch phone for LineageOS in 2019

Hi all. I cracked the screen today on my beloved Google Nexus 6 running LineageOS 15.1. I need to decide if it's worth repairing, or if it's time to upgrade to my next phone. The Nexus is still usable for now, if not exactly pretty to look at.
Besides the cracked glass, I'm still beyond happy with the Nexus 6. I paid around $325 for it new, and I'd rather not spend more than that on my next phone. I don't need flagship level bells and whistles.
Any suggestions for a replacement phone with official LineageOS support that meet the following criteria?:
6" screen size, give or take 1/4". I like big phones and I cannot lie.
support for key LTE bands on AT&T network in USA (LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12, and 17)
3.5mm headphone jack
decent battery life
decent build quality
not known to have hardware issues
I don't care about bells and whistles.
I don't need a high-quality camera.
I don't care about having a high-resolution screen, though it shouldn't be awful either.
Doesn't need to be the latest and greatest. My Nexus 6 is plenty fast for my needs.
Prefer new, but will consider mint-condition used phone from reputable vendors.
Treble support would be nice if that increases the time before LineageOS updates for the phone are discontinued. Aiming for a lifespan of at least 4 years.
A perk would be a phone that's not a nightmare/super expensive to replace the screen/digitizer if it breaks. Youtube videos suggest to me that the Nexus 6 is anything but a cakewalk on that front. I had a tempered glass screen protector on it, but learned today that's no match for concrete.

No replies. I guess finding a phone that meets all of the above criteria isn't so easy. Since my original post, I've done some research. As of now, I'm leaning toward one of the below three phones with official LineageOS support:
1. Get another Motorola Nexus 6. Brand new factory sealed Nexus 6 phones are still being sold for very cheap: $122 on eBay for 32GB units. That's less than it would cost to repair my existing one. I might just stay with the Nexus since I think I could squeeze a couple more years out of it with Lineage 15.1 and, possibly Lineage 16 if that's released, which I think is likely.
2. Google Pixel 2 XL. It lacks a headphone jack, but otherwise meets the remaining criteria. Near-mint ones can be bought from a reputable eBay dealer for $335.
3. Xiaomi Mi Mix 2. Also lacks a headphone jack, but otherwise meets the criteria and is a gorgeous phone. It's available new from a U.S. eBay dealer for $325 or around $285 from dealers in China.
Two other phones are near misses:
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is a steal at under $200 new, but it wasn't designed for the U.S. market and is likely to give spotty or no AT&T reception in some areas.
The LeEco Le Max 2 is a thing of beauty selling for as little as $229 for a new 32GB version, but XDA forum users report various troubles with its radio sustaining 4G connections even with the X829 version of this phone intended for the U.S. market. Word is it might be a safer bet on T-mobile/T-mobile MVNOs.
Still open to other suggestions.

I am in the same boat. I bought a brand new Nexus 6 in 2015 and it was fantastic for 4 years until I broke the sim card loader. Since its soldered to the main board I decided to buy a used one from Swappa for $90 shipped. It worked great but then I dropped it and shattered it. Then I bought a brand new one sealed from Amazon. It came "Device is Engineering" in the bootloader. If you do a search on XDA you'll find that is bad. I returned it for a refund and bought another brand new one from Amazon. It had a defect in the proximity sensor turning off every time I made a call and not turning back on until the other party disconnected. I returned that hoping for a refund.
My point is that all these brand new Nexus 6 I believe are actually refurbs with issues. They were the problem phones that Motorola sold off to 3rd party sellers for cheap and they pawn them off on us.

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I don't know if this phone meets your requiresments but I recently bought a Moto G7 and I'm very happy with it. It just appeared in the US.

maybeme2 said:
I don't know if this phone meets your requiresments but I recently bought a Moto G7 and I'm very happy with it. It just appeared in the US.
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Hi, I noticed that many of the de devices mentioned in this thread do not appear listed in lineageos devices page.
Moreover, most of the devices listed are rather old.
So how can I really tell if a device will be supported by lineageos in advance???

opensas said:
Hi, I noticed that many of the de devices mentioned in this thread do not appear listed in lineageos devices page.
Moreover, most of the devices listed are rather old.
So how can I really tell if a device will be supported by lineageos in advance???
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It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.
Yes and only old devices can show a history of continued support.

How can i use this rom with mi max 3?
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Question Is it worth to buy P6Pro in that point of time?

Hi,
I have P5 right now and it works fine, Is it worth to buy in that point of time P6Pro even though that in october suppose to come a new pixel? and also with the problem that he had?
Thanks

Hi @I7210I,
This seems like a Question thread (the default), rather than a General thread. You should change it back.
In answer to your question, I'd say if you find the Pixel 6 Pro cheaply enough, sure, buy it. Recently I saw news of sub-$300 Pixel 6 Pros on sale somewhere.
If you're going to pay full price or near full price (or monthly installments that total up to near full price), then I'd suggest just waiting.

Thank you,
The price I can get is 830 USD for the 256GB and 640 for the 128 GB

Personally, I would wait then, although I would fully expect to pay more than that for the Pixel 7 Pro. Since the Google Store is directly selling the SIM-unlocked (bootloader unlockable) 128 GB Pixel 6 Pro for $649 (at one point in the process it says $899, but the next step shows it back at $649), and you can get the 512 GB unlocked P6P for $849 direct from the Google Store, I would first determine what size you want. If 128 GB is enough for you, the $640 from your source isn't horrible, but if you need more storage than 128 GB, I think I would hold off until the Pixel 7 Pro even though you will definitely be paying more than $850 for any Pixel 7 Pro.
So I probably didn't make the decision any easier, but...
Also, I didn't stop using my Pixel 1 until a few months after it received its last update in December 2019 or so.

And the release date of the pixel 7 is right?
and about the p6, is the bugs are fixed with the updates?
thanks

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And the release date of the pixel 7 is right?
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I don't know what the release date of the Pixel 7 is. It is probably either next month or as you said, more likely October/late October. October 19, 2021 was when they had the first-day pre-orders for the Pixel 6. It was a nightmare. Their site couldn't handle the load, but eventually maybe five hours later I was able to pre-order. Got my wife's and my factory unlocked Pixel 6 Pro 512 GB models in late October.
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and about the p6, is the bugs are fixed with the updates?
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The only noticeable bugs I remember ever having were a slight problem with using gestures with third-party Launcher apps, but it didn't cause me a problem that often and was always recoverable. I know others have had other bugs but I was one of the lucky ones.
I haven't noticed the issue the last less than two days I've had 13 Stable installed but that isn't really long enough to tell if the issue is still around.
Personally, I think Android 13 is much smoother than Android 12, and when I reboot the phone, the home screen loads noticeably faster the first time I unlock it. I've been withholding full judgment one way or another on 13 because it takes time to observe all the overall differences objectively, and sometimes there is also a placebo effect with a new shiny Android version, but my general impression is that Android 13 compared to 12 is like Android 5.11 compared to 5. But honestly not as big a difference as the 5->5.11 changes - just reminiscent of that situation, although Android 5.x was when I was still using non-Google OEM phones.
You're welcome! Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

And we said nothing on the competitors (S22 ultra) in front of the pixel 6 pro...
So everything is relayed on rumors about the release dates...
The price sounds good , and you said you was lucky about the 6 pro so that's one thing that might be scary

I7210I said:
And we said nothing on the competitors (S22 ultra) in front of the pixel 6 pro...
So everything is relayed on rumors about the release dates...
The price sounds good , and you said you was lucky about the 6 pro so that's one thing that might be scary
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Well, from what I've seen in this section there were plenty of others who were lucky too. Any one of us can be lucky or unlucky with any phone brand or model.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Well, from what I've seen in this section there were plenty of others who were lucky too. Any one of us can be lucky or unlucky with any phone brand or model.
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agreed, it might catch you in any brand and device.
overall I think that for that price it's looks good, and who knows what will be the start (problems, prices) of the 7 pro, isn't it?
and to go the S22 ultra is something else

I7210I said:
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I have P5 right now and it works fine, Is it worth to buy in that point of time P6Pro even though that in october suppose to come a new pixel? and also with the problem that he had?
Thanks
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i has hear several rumors about an early realease by september, with official ETA for early october... you could wait a little bit, however the price for the P6/P6P will surely down with the new ones on market, si it could be a good time for to buy at reasonable price.

I'd wait. The Pixel 7 looks like it could solve a lot of issues and shortcomings with the Pixel 6.
The Pixel 6 is getting harder to find as Google apparently wants the inventory gone.
If you're in the US, you could get a Pixel 6 Pro for $0 down from T-Mobile on the JOD program and upgrade to a regular Pixel 7 for free (Pro probably $150-$300 down?) when it comes out.

So as far as I see, the p7 pro is behind the corner, I'm in Europe till 7 of September, I hope that I will have good news till than...
anyhow, looks like its better to wait than if I understand, also the thing with the inventory is right

General Nothing phone 2 is coming soon

Carl pei confirms and also listed on Flipkart Nothing phone 2 launched soon in this summer and comes with Snapdragon 8 series's processor

varunsngh57 said:
Carl pei confirms and also listed on Flipkart Nothing phone 2 launched soon in this summer and comes with Snapdragon 8 series's processor
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Yes, the most real and important question: Will it be unlockable and support custom recoveries?

In future may be

I just want one single thing: free EDL mode.

Any ideas on pricing and main differences? I'm not into the whole better quality camera thing.
Hopefully it will have features that can really set it apart from other phones in this price range.

i hope feel like OnePlus early days Flagship

Unlike OnePlus that's no longer offering unbrick tool for newer models, Nothing Phone 2 will likely be the only flagship phone fully moddable with Lineage OS and other firmwares, other than a few factory unlocked Motorolas.

satelliteseeker said:
Unlike OnePlus that's no longer offering unbrick tool for newer models, Nothing Phone 2 will likely be the only flagship phone fully moddable with Lineage OS and other firmwares, other than a few factory unlocked Motorolas.
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They do have an MSM tool for new devices, but it's just not free... Even for repair companies.
Bare in mind they never gave us the MSM tool it was always leaked.
Hopefully Nothing can offer us something similar where it's free for us to use even if it is a leak, the main thing we would need for ROMs is a complete source release, which they have done with their previous device so they should this time too I would have thought, there's a strong chance there will be ROMs for the 2
I also agree it's pretty much the only company left that may offer modders a phone worthwhile buying, pixel would be my other choice.
Fingers crossed Xmas comes early for us all.

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Carl pei confirms and also listed on Flipkart Nothing phone 2 launched soon in this summer and comes with Snapdragon 8 series's processor
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Thats good news! Im soo glad they are developing something like a Flagship Killer with the Snapdragon 8 Series processors. Pixel 8 and Nothing Phone 2 would face a standoff battle with the iPhone 15 being a spectator, I can see that happening cause iPhone is almost never in the game (cause there are always people who go for them in spite of whats offered).

Expect US version will be $800 (12/512)

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Expect US version will be $800 (12/512)
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Is that confirmed?

Nothing Phone (2): Flagship pricing leaks with 512 GB storage option for Phone (1) successor
According to a reliable leaker, Nothing has priced its second-generation smartphone for 55% more than last year's Phone (1). Equipped with a Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 chipset and sporting a familiar design, the Nothing Phone (2) is rumoured to launch with 256 GB and 512 GB of storage variants.
www.notebookcheck.net
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850 Euro

dladz said:
They do have an MSM tool for new devices, but it's just not free... Even for repair companies.
Bare in mind they never gave us the MSM tool it was always leaked.
Hopefully Nothing can offer us something similar where it's free for us to use even if it is a leak, the main thing we would need for ROMs is a complete source release, which they have done with their previous device so they should this time too I would have thought, there's a strong chance there will be ROMs for the 2
I also agree it's pretty much the only company left that may offer modders a phone worthwhile buying, pixel would be my other choice.
Fingers crossed Xmas comes early for us all.
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Fingers crossed.
Moreover, I really wish Netflix and cable TV app will work after bootloader unlocked (and probably L1 maintained).
If so, it will be my next phone (512GB version of course) as soon as T-Mobile B71/N71 supported

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Fingers crossed.
Moreover, I really wish Netflix and cable TV app will work after bootloader unlocked (and probably L1 maintained).
If so, it will be my next phone (512GB version of course) as soon as T-Mobile B71/N71 supported
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I'm a year away from an upgrade Mar 2024.. really sucks but there you go...might wait til July and get the nothing 3, if it's anything like OnePlus then the 3 will be a beast as the OnePlus was.