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Hey All,
After drooling and patiently waiting since the start of the year, I finally have the oppurtunity to test out the One X during its launch here in Malaysia sometime last week. I didn't want to believe it at first, but there is definitely noticeable lag when playing around with the phone(scrolling through the home screens and playing RIP TIDE). Battery was full. It definitely feels slower than my HTC Sensation XE. This is kind of a deal breaker for me. There are some sites like techradar and pocketnow.com that acknowledges the lag and even androidforums which has a thread addressing the lag issues. ( I can't post the link here but you can google it and find it in the first few results )
To my understanding, the reason for the lag is that most apps aren't coded to utilise the 4cores. What is the point of buying a premium priced quadcore phone when all I'm getting in return is limitations? If I'm wrong please correct me, as I am very dissapointed and for now undecided whether to get the One X or not.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks all.
My phone seems really smooth to me, especially after changing the launcher to nova launcher.
Noticed the same thing. Quite strange considering everything looks more slimline compared to Sense 3.6 which runs flawless on the Sensation.
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Hey All,
After drooling and patiently waiting since the start of the year, I finally have the oppurtunity to test out the One X during its launch here in Malaysia sometime last week. I didn't want to believe it at first, but there is definitely noticeable lag when playing around with the phone(scrolling through the home screens and playing RIP TIDE). Battery was full. It definitely feels slower than my HTC Sensation XE. This is kind of a deal breaker for me. There are some sites like techradar and pocketnow.com that acknowledges the lag and even androidforums which has a thread addressing the lag issues. ( I can't post the link here but you can google it and find it in the first few results )
To my understanding, the reason for the lag is that most apps aren't coded to utilise the 4cores. What is the point of buying a premium priced quadcore phone when all I'm getting in return is limitations? If I'm wrong please correct me, as I am very dissapointed and for now undecided whether to get the One X or not.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks all.
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Well......I didn't use it, but I didn't really think it would lag in general usage and opening apps, scrolling, etc...browser lag seems to be software side as most of the early bugs are.
Yes, barely anything is coded for 4-cores besides a few benchmarks and certain Tegra Zone games. IMO the quad-core is more of a marketing push as being the first quad-core SoC etc....no real huge benefits. The low power companion core of Tegra 3 doesn't seem to do much either besides being used when screen is off or maybe playing a movie.
You can wait for the XL with S4 krait, which is a better chipset IMO all around in general. Newer architecture, newer cores, less heat, less energy, and performs better than Tegra 3 in some benchmarks while also losing in some, so they trade some blows. But Krait is generally the better SoC for everyday use and will be faster in general IMO.
It probably won't have the same dev support though as the One X, it's your choice on what you want.
I personally don't think Tegra 3 is that good of an SoC compared to Krait and what has even yet to come very soon. It probably performs the same as the Sensation when the extra 2 cores aren't being used because it's running 4 Cortex-A9 cores which are the same exact cores found in most of last years phones, just that theres 2 more haha
My opinion would be to get the XL or wait till other phones start dropping, then make a choice.
Well, even single core phone should be able to handle everything smoothly if its software is done good for it and it's pretty obvious that Htc One X has slightly unfinished software so it could been released early, before Samsung, LG, Huawei, etc... Software can be later optimised for the device with upcoming updates.
I think its more sense needs tweaking tbh, when you put nova launcher on which practically makes it very similar to to stock ICS its buttery smooth even going in and out app draw and scrolling widgets, my GN wasn't as smooth in that situation.
Yeah I agree. Coming from a SGS2 the HTC OneX does have lag issues when scrolling through homescreens, going in and out of app launcher and especially when going into the multitasking menu.
Though i feel like Sense is to blame here.
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browser lag is caused by HTC swipe 3 finger mode, disable for full speed browser
launcher lag is caused by two factors, performance scaling with battery level and android memfree/priority values, they are flowed in ICS and HTC didn't seem to have tweaked them
easy to fix if you have root using the supercharger, it prevents apps pilling up in the background and conflicting in priority
my single core 2 years old snapdargon 2 Desire HD runs Sense @ a brisk locked 60fps thanks to supercharger
there is also the matter of ultra smooth rosie (flattening the Sense launcher 3D widgets) but i don't think the GPU on Tegra3 will need this
so yes most likely supercharger, sorry to break it to you but apparently we still need to root with an HTC device
Hey Everyone,
Curious to know if anyone has buyers remorse over making the switch to this device from another device?
Does anyone ever run the phone within the confines of the original OS?
What is your real world expectation 6 months from now with this device?
How long do you plan on keeping the device?
What is the most important everyday feature that is a keeper & deal breaker?
How has the form factor impacted the way you look at phones in terms of the screen size vs the size of the device?
Also as a side note. Have anyone ever worked with a fully calibrated monitor like a Eizo or a Ben-Q?
Or for industry folks, any panasonic or Sony broadcast monitors? The correlation being those monitors have the same look at least to my eyes.
Finally have you ever acquired a device that you did not initially have buyers remorse?
I have the phone myself. I am just curious to what the community at large is vibing at the moment...
I'm happy with the G3 especially the screen and camera. I jumped to the G3 from the LG Flex. Nice that the T-Mobile G3 comes with a unlocked bootloader and I'm sure development will be good with time. I'm a phone junkie and usually just keeps phones around 6 months. Jump helps with that.
Sometimes I DO regret getting this phone. It's a good phone, but it's just not the earth shattering, mega phone I was hoping for. Even rooted with no bloatware, i still experience lag, freezes, and subpar battery life. Also, maybe it's just my device, but I'm really not impressed with the screen at all. The blacks seem way too "milky", and i really can't see the difference between this and a 1080 screen, except for when I look at certain photos or videos.
The camera is nice for a 13mp shooter. That's really the main positive.
I returned it after 2 weeks. To many performance trade offs for the QHD screen. Once the more powerful phones hit later this year (Shamue and Note 4) the G3 will struggle. Although that's why the Prime is being released.
Curious what other 5.5" screen are you comparing it to?
Me too returned it after 2 weeks, and the reason was just the screen, everything else is great.
First, couldn't stand this yellowish tinted screen and the poor blacks, and second because of the lag/stuttering
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
As I never used dual window, I can't say if it lags there...
Most annoying was the stuttering to me, and this happened nearly everywhere, transitions, scrolling...
But Lg will fix it sooner or later I guess.
As I wrote, the main reason for returning it was the display...
grifter9931 said:
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
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Some people have the G3 lag some don't. I don't notice any lag. From what I read on here the lag is simple fix by changing the launcher and or a setting or two. Removing bloat helps too.
My screen is bight and battery is good enough for me. I guess I was lucky and got a good G3.
As far as the G3 being a "wow" phone it's not but I think those days are over for phones. I was going to wait for the Note 4 but after seeing the leaked pictures I think I'm glad I didn't.
Got the D855 32GB..
All I can say is, I'm so glad i didn't put much attention on others negative opinion about the device...
We all knew it come's with QHD display before buying it, I don't get why too many about it...
As of me, I'm very happy with it... Coming from nexus 7 2013, my criteria for next device was, at least 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage with external (a 64gb internal w/o ext is also okay)... Just saying by the way. =)
There are always those people who have remorse after buying a device by the way..
I've come from an iPhone 4S!:silly:
I bought the International version with 32GB and the 3GB ram (F400S) and I've not found it laggy at all, even with the all the Korean bloatware apps on there.
The main reason I purchased it was because I was so impressed with the LG G2 that I bought for my wife a few months back, just loved the design and screen.
Hopefully when the "Ints" get their bootloader unlocked and we can nandroid backup and get some cool roms (come on PardusHD!) then it should run even smoother.
The battery life isn't as good as I expected, but then I'm usually charging using a USB port (500mAH) so it will take ages and I've hardly ever had it at 100%:laugh: but it's way better than the iPhone 4s battery life.
I'm a little disappointed in the screen, I don't find it as "bright" as the Samsung S ones, I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%.
Overall design is nice and it's very light. I'm not a fan of big screens, but then that's the way they're all heading nowadays....
flapmio said:
I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%
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Sole reason of fast battery discharge
I don't have this phone yet but I know the 32g has 3 gigs of ram and the 16 has 2 gigs. Might be why some suffer lag. Make sure when comparing you specify which version folks
Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
I don't have buyer's remorse exactly, but I'm not thrilled with the device in every way. I like the camera a lot better than the one on my HTC One M7, and the G3 battery life is better than my M7. That's really it. My M7 felt snappier in every way, and the screen looked better. Once the Nexus 6 comes out I will likely sell the G3 and pick one up. I just can't stand all this locked bootloader nonsense and the lack of development that occurs as a consequence.
Batfink33 said:
Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
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TY I am trying to recreate the stutter as we speak... Interesting stuff
Fir3blade said:
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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I noticed a few myself. I wonder why the reviewers did not mention the stuttering.....
I just want verification, but it seems that when scrolling through Facebook the screen lags. I noticed it with curtain websites as well. Is this more of a web site problem then the phone? Because every phone I've had lags like that.
I cannot explain this, but G3 (and every android phone) when loading anything from web in the background- makes lags when scrolling. IOS always make highest priority for UI but not android. They've been trying to 'fix' it since HTC HD2 (my first phone with android) and the answer was always 'need better hardware'- even g3 hardware is miles ahead than Iphone. Probably will take another 10 years for Google to understand that smoothest of UI is more important than anything else. This is why iPhone users won't go for android.
I've noticed this since my first quad core phone and thought with more cores phones get less lag...I was wrong. It seems that individual applications aren't as optimized for fluidity as the actual Android platform. I hope this is addressed in Androids future because our phones are so powerful these days yet apps still stutter when scrolling which is a nuisance to device use.
Try opening the Facebook app --->App Settings--->Video Auto Play--->Off
Helped smooth scrolling for me.
Perhaps Android L with the 60fps thingy may address this issue..
Thanks guys!
prfraczek said:
I cannot explain this, but G3 (and every android phone) when loading anything from web in the background- makes lags when scrolling. IOS always make highest priority for UI but not android. They've been trying to 'fix' it since HTC HD2 (my first phone with android) and the answer was always 'need better hardware'- even g3 hardware is miles ahead than Iphone. Probably will take another 10 years for Google to understand that smoothest of UI is more important than anything else. This is why iPhone users won't go for android.
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prfraczek well personally i think your pretty much talking out your arse!
'if you had a HD2 you would have known it was winmo 6.5- as for facebook the app is crap though the browser works way better for viewing facebook.
As far as browsers go Chrome has gone from good and efficient to sub standard in my opinion?
Try dolphin browser, some of the lag issues you talk of are most likely due to html5 comparability issues found that java being removed had a big impact on browser experience.
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-hd2. And yes hd2 was running winmo6.5 but few months after i could port android on it. You are saying the Facebook app is crap. What about tapatalk and others? Every single is crap? But every one keeps lagging when scrolling. Chrome is fine because it load all pictures after you stop scrolling. As I say when something happening in backgroud then phone lags. Sorry. I need android due to my work otherwise... Won't troll....here.
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I've noticed this since my first quad core phone and thought with more cores phones get less lag...I was wrong. It seems that individual applications aren't as optimized for fluidity as the actual Android platform. I hope this is addressed in Androids future because our phones are so powerful these days yet apps still stutter when scrolling which is a nuisance to device use.
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prfraczek said:
I cannot explain this, but G3 (and every android phone) when loading anything from web in the background- makes lags when scrolling. IOS always make highest priority for UI but not android. They've been trying to 'fix' it since HTC HD2 (my first phone with android) and the answer was always 'need better hardware'- even g3 hardware is miles ahead than Iphone. Probably will take another 10 years for Google to understand that smoothest of UI is more important than anything else. This is why iPhone users won't go for android.
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There is no excuse for any lag whatsoever with the powerful hardware we have in these phones lately.
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Skizzy034 said:
There is no excuse for any lag whatsoever with the powerful hardware we have in these phones lately.
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There is an excuse for the lag. Its the 801 not being powerful enough to render the large amount of pixels required for the QHD screen.
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There is an excuse for the lag. Its the 801 not being powerful enough to render the large amount of pixels required for the QHD screen.
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But this is too heavy for 805 as well. I used to use G2 and this was to complicated for HD screen as well. And assume this is too complicated for every android phone (Galaxy S2 my girlfriend as well). Just somehow work smooth-less on every single iPhone with very slow processor 1gb of ram etc.
It could be dalvik hitting the limits. I dunno, I have nexus 7 2013 and it's very smooth on Web browsing.
Also my little tinfoil theory says that devs put more effort into iOS than android. There's plenty of evidence to support that, so it's not a stretch to assume it covers performance too.
Sent from my LG G3
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But this is too heavy for 805 as well. I used to use G2 and this was to complicated for HD screen as well. And assume this is too complicated for every android phone (Galaxy S2 my girlfriend as well). Just somehow work smooth-less on every single iPhone with very slow processor 1gb of ram etc.
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QHD is not too heavy for the 805,look on YouTube and find the G3 805 video by Erica Griffin where it runs smoother than the 801. The IPhone 5s is drawing below QHD AND below HD its resolution is only 1136x640!!!!!. HD is 1920x1080 and QHD is 2560 x 1440. The M8 has virtually the identical CPU and GPU as the G3 and is IPhone smooth bit its only 1920x1080. You can't put the same chip in a QHD phone and expect the same performance.
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QHD is not too heavy for the 805,look on YouTube and find the G3 805 video by Erica Griffin where it runs smoother than the 801. The IPhone 5s is drawing below QHD AND below HD its resolution is only 1136x640!!!!!. HD is 1920x1080 and QHD is 2560 x 1440. The M8 has virtually the identical CPU and GPU as the G3 and is IPhone smooth bit its only 1920x1080. You can't put the same chip in a QHD phone and expect the same performance.
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Are you talking about the S5 vs G3 video?
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It's plenty powerful enough. It's the way the OS is optimized, specifically the skin.
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I'm no trying to say that hardware is bad because in my opinion it's amazing. There is no excuses for hardware. Tha issue is 'android' optimization which is mileas away from ios. And google need to do something asap. I love android and I'm sure if someone could port ios on to this phone this could be the fastest and smoothness phone ever. Of course won't talk about ios limitations (I'm not fan of apple). So google stop complaing about hardware or similar and optimize your system. Then I'm sure apple stores becomes an empty stores hahaha
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It's plenty powerful enough. It's the way the OS is optimized, specifically the skin.
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The hardware isn't up to it.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
Hey guys. I am a long time jailbroken iPhone user. I am really into tech and wanted to try an android phone. However with the 5.5 iPhone I basically decided to just get the iPhone 6+ but now I have cold feet. Even though iOS 8 opens it up more I don't like certain restrictions like widgets in the notification center. Anyway Of all the android phones I have tried I liked the G3 the best. I have some concerns hoping you can help me with
-I have AT&T, how easy is it to root and get rid of the bloatware?
-does custom roms cause problems? Is it comparable tosses with Jailbreaking?
- when android L comes out what is the expected delay in the G3 getting it.
-I noticed the screen max brightness is not great. How is it in real life.
- one other issue I have is that the g3 has been out for a few months instead of a hot new phone.
Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
Stigga said:
Hey guys. I am a long time jailbroken iPhone user. I am really into tech and wanted to try an android phone. However with the 5.5 iPhone I basically decided to just get the iPhone 6+ but now I have cold feet. Even though iOS 8 opens it up more I don't like certain restrictions like widgets in the notification center. Anyway Of all the android phones I have tried I liked the G3 the best. I have some concerns hoping you can help me with
-I have AT&T, how easy is it to root and get rid of the bloatware?
-does custom roms cause problems? Is it comparable tosses with Jailbreaking?
- when android L comes out what is the expected delay in the G3 getting it.
-I noticed the screen max brightness is not great. How is it in real life.
- one other issue I have is that the g3 has been out for a few months instead of a hot new phone.
Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
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The fact that you're even considering it shows your not ready to come to the light. Go with the iphone. Try it out at least.
I have att also
Rooting is easy ,, and removing bloatware is easy also,there are a couple quides for that
As for custom Roms there are non yet for the att g3 as it has a locked boot loader, but there are a couple devs working on unlocking the boot loader or finding an exploit to allow us to flash custom recoveries and roms
Android L if released will most likely make it to our g3 late 2014 or first quarter 2015
For the brightness issue I installed lux auto brightness
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6 plus bro
Thanks guys. Decided to not pre order the 6 plus- which is big for me. In regards to removing bloatware, how can you do that if there is no customer toms.
Stigga said:
Thanks guys. Decided to not pre order the 6 plus- which is big for me. In regards to removing bloatware, how can you do that if there is no customer toms.
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You have Titanium Backup to remove bloatware and I'm sure many other apps to do the same thing, but I can guarantee you that most people here use Titanium Backup.
This sums it up for me.
"On paper the iPhone 6's specs are mediocre, there's nothing special about 1GB of RAM, nothing special about a 2GHz quad-core CPU, and there's nothing special about a 1,810 mAh battery. The only thing truly staggering about the iPhone 6 is how much Apple are charging for the right to own barely more than a high-to-mid-range phone."
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-vs-lg-g3-full-specs-comparison/#ixzz3D6Lap97T
It's really simple to root G3 and to remove bloatware with for example Titanium backup. As in, really simple. So don't worry about that.
lossah said:
It's really simple to root G3 and to remove bloatware with for example Titanium backup. As in, really simple. So don't worry about that.
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Thanks guys. Is it this way with all android phones or just this phone.
Also do you guys like the G3? Would you get it now if you were looking for a phone?
Stigga said:
Thanks guys. Is it this way with all android phones or just this phone.
Also do you guys like the G3? Would you get it now if you were looking for a phone?
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About buying this phone:
Yes, IF its possible to remove this lag completely, and I think it is. I'm pretty sure it's because of the LG UI. As far as I know the s805 version also has UI lag.
And yes, if our lovely devs find a way to unlock the bootloader, since I'm one of those who likes to try roms out, "sadly".
But I bought this phone thanks to the big and beautiful display with really thin bezels, removable battery and SD card slot.
lossah said:
About buying this phone:
Yes, IF its possible to remove this lag completely, and I think it is. I'm pretty sure it's because of the LG UI. As far as I know the s805 version also has UI lag.
And yes, if our lovely devs find a way to unlock the bootloader, since I'm one of those who likes to try roms out, "sadly".
But I bought this phone thanks to the big and beautiful display with really thin bezels, removable battery and SD card slot.
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Oh man there is a lot of lag?
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Oh man there is a lot of lag?
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Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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Haha I like that
lossah said:
Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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lol "not at all" ?? or "there is"?? you're not making sense my friend!
Iphone 6 the 2012 model released 2 years late lol
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If you go with the G3, get the 32gig model for the extra ram, I got the 16gig 2gigRAM model, wish I could have gotten the extra RAM
Also in terms of brightness, I've never maxed out the brightness in my daily use (haven't had the need), so not sure why people are complaining about brightness :/
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lol "not at all" ?? or "there is"?? you're not making sense my friend!
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He said "lot of lag". It's not "lot of lag" but there is lag. Its not lag FREE.
What's so hard to understand?
AC5L4T3R said:
This sums it up for me.
"On paper the iPhone 6's specs are mediocre, there's nothing special about 1GB of RAM, nothing special about a 2GHz quad-core CPU, and there's nothing special about a 1,810 mAh battery. The only thing truly staggering about the iPhone 6 is how much Apple are charging for the right to own barely more than a high-to-mid-range phone."
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-vs-lg-g3-full-specs-comparison/#ixzz3D6Lap97T
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Until android (now byte code and java etc) will be full ART- the answer is iPhone (run native code). There is no way that apps run on google's Android RT virtual machine can be smooth and lag free like ios. Hopefully L finally fix the historical issue. We cannot compare processors, memory or battery because ios architecture doesn't need hi spec hardware due to this native code. Android has to do 'much' more.
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Not at all, but there is. And I'm completely allergic to any kind of lag. If it's not INSTANT, as in INSTANT, I call it lag.
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I am a bit like that because I am used to WP and compared to windows everything is slow.
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Until android (now byte code and java etc) will be full ART- the answer is iPhone (run native code). There is no way that apps run on google's Android RT virtual machine can be smooth and lag free like ios. Hopefully L finally fix the historical issue. We cannot compare processors, memory or battery because ios architecture doesn't need hi spec hardware due to this native code. Android has to do 'much' more.
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Still. They charge an amazingly high amount for the hardware they pack inside, sure the phone runs smooth and is comparable with devices with higher specs, but it seems like they could do a little better if they lowered the price. Unless they spend a tone on advertising, that would explain the high prices lol
I wonder why the G3 doesn't score better in comparison in these tests? Even the G2 did better in some.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ess-outperform-competing-phones-in-benchmarks
Because of screen resolution.
Not entirely, its more about optimisation. iOS devices have always done well in Sunspider because OS and browser optimisation is by far the most important factor. The fact is the differences you see here are probably not even noticeable to the user anyway.
Also remember that the article was on Apple insider, the benchmarks are cherry picked to make the iPhone look good. Its also been reported that Safari is somewhat 'designed' to win at this benchmark.. if you get my meaning.
For what its worth my G3 did Sunspider in 726ms, not the 875 quoted in the article..
to be quite honest I was sad when I saw poor marks in an tu tu and geekbench, initially. but later I thought f*ck that. it gives me what I want- a gorgeous screen with smooth performance in heavy game like asphalt 8 and playing videos in 2k and 4k resolution with ac3 and dts sound with 21/22 hours battery on a single charge. so no worries about how much the synths performance goes in the south
slower RAM, throthling
G3 has slower RAM than G2. Looks like Lg sadly wanted to save some money.
And now G3 is crapping out in RAM extensive benchmarks!
I hear also G3 can overheat and throthle in benchmarks thus worse scores than G2.
Maybe some devels can bump up clocks on RAM, but I don't know about the heat. In my opinion G3 realy needs all aluminum case at those speeds to dispatch heat better. The heat is becoming a BIG PROBLEM in so fast smartphones.
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I wonder why the G3 doesn't score better in comparison in these tests? Even the G2 did better in some.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ess-outperform-competing-phones-in-benchmarks
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Display causing it. Adreno 330 is not a powerful GPU for QHD displays. Yes there was some overheat problems but it solved, at least its %90 of overheating problem solved. RAM management is not a problem. RAM is good and works really nice it doesn't makes any lag or freezing crashing etc. Got 41K on benchmark at most. When i first benchmarked it was 31K and it was biggest disappointment of the year.
Its NOT the display resolution!!!! This has been covered over and over. The G3 under performs even in pure CPU benchmarks that dont even involve the display, its because of excessive thermal control. Tweak the CPU governor, disable as much of the thermal control as possible and it becomes much quicker.
For example my G3 out benches the N5 and G2 in Basemark X GPU tests if I force it to scale up. This murders battery life because the only way we have to force the issue is to force it. We need a custom kernel so we can set better CPU limits and get rid of LGs junk thermal control.
This is how my F460 (Prime) did with Sunspider. Higher end SOC & Adreno.
Once we get custom kernels and roms (if we ever), the scores, and even battery life will improve. LG G3 stock rom is so heavy compared to pure AOSP or even CM. We need some AOSP love. This device will fly...
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Once we get custom kernels and roms (if we ever), the scores, and even battery life will improve. LG G3 stock rom is so heavy compared to pure AOSP or even CM. We need some AOSP love. This device will fly...
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To be fair, the numbers you're getting on the G3 720p 3dmark test mentioned in the report are higher than that of the ipad air or the ipad retina according to 3dmark's own records.
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Display causing it. Adreno 330 is not a powerful GPU for QHD displays. Yes there was some overheat problems but it solved, at least its %90 of overheating problem solved. RAM management is not a problem. RAM is good and works really nice it doesn't makes any lag or freezing crashing etc. Got 41K on benchmark at most. When i first benchmarked it was 31K and it was biggest disappointment of the year.
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So your devices are outperforming Apple's best tablets despite them not being optimized for benchmarks due to throttling (thermal).
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To be fair, the numbers you're getting on the G3 720p 3dmark test mentioned in the report are higher than that of the ipad air or the ipad retina according to 3dmark's own records.
So your devices are outperforming Apple's best tablets despite them not being optimized for benchmarks due to throttling (thermal).
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Yes. Thermal protecting is nice addition. But when device overheats it makes barely unusable. Cannot make calls due to heat on the top. And i think same Adreno 330 will perform really good performance on up to 1080P devices. But 1440 is overwhelming for it. They should wait and put Adreno 420+S805 APQ8084 which clocks 2.7 GHz (2675 actual). Maybe 420 will perform better on QHD displays.
I also had some issues with LG back in time. But honestly i didn't had any problem with phone except overheating. UI is ultra-smooth comparing to TouchWiz. As a 6 year user of Samsung Android phones it made me feel better. I had some worries before buying to phone due to old fails from LG. But my choice was giving it a try. Now i see how much i did good with buying it. Best phone ever for me. If the overheating stuff is going to solve one day i'd be love my phone more.
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Yes. Thermal protecting is nice addition. But when device overheats it makes barely unusable. Cannot make calls due to heat on the top. And i think same Adreno 330 will perform really good performance on up to 1080P devices. But 1440 is overwhelming for it. They should wait and put Adreno 420+S805 APQ8084 which clocks 2.7 GHz (2675 actual). Maybe 420 will perform better on QHD displays.
I also had some issues with LG back in time. But honestly i didn't had any problem with phone except overheating. UI is ultra-smooth comparing to TouchWiz. As a 6 year user of Samsung Android phones it made me feel better. I had some worries before buying to phone due to old fails from LG. But my choice was giving it a try. Now i see how much i did good with buying it. Best phone ever for me. If the overheating stuff is going to solve one day i'd be love my phone more.
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I'm using the LG G3 F460S (Cat 6 or 'Prime' as it's known to some) which has the Snap 805 and Adreno 420. No overheating issues here.
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I'm using the F460S which has the Snap 805 and Adreno 420.
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Other than LTE CAT 6 version, all of G3 versions have S801+A420. If i'm not wrong its same on T-Mobile, AT&T and International model (D855). I think yours is CAT 6 version whichone released after some months. In performance may a bit better with S805 but in GPU i cannot say such a verified info. Just thought maybe A420 can handle QHD screen. If even it cannot handle, that means devices aren't ready for QHD screens. It's like for example trying to make Watch Dogs work with GT740M. Full of freezing, overheating on card and even burning it. It's another reason for waiting AOSP based ROM. Honestly i want to taste Android L with its pure edition like on Nexus 5. But LG's original ROM's doesn't has that much bloatware and it made me happy and that's why i can wait for it. But sadly no one seems to successful on unlocking bootloader. In my prev. phone SGN3 i had to delete at least 100 apps whichones are useless. In LG i just deleted 3 apps from operators and providers.
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Other than LTE CAT 6 version, all of G3 versions have S801+A420. If i'm not wrong its same on T-Mobile, AT&T and International model (D855). I think yours is CAT 6 version whichone released after some months. In performance may a bit better with S805 but in GPU i cannot say such a verified info. Just thought maybe A420 can handle QHD screen. If even it cannot handle, that means devices aren't ready for QHD screens. It's like for example trying to make Watch Dogs work with GT740M. Full of freezing, overheating on card and even burning it. It's another reason for waiting AOSP based ROM. Honestly i want to taste Android L with its pure edition like on Nexus 5. But LG's original ROM's doesn't has that much bloatware and it made me happy and that's why i can wait for it. But sadly no one seems to successful on unlocking bootloader. In my prev. phone SGN3 i had to delete at least 100 apps whichones are useless. In LG i just deleted 3 apps from operators and providers.
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All versions pack the S801 with Adreno 330 (not 420).
Only the version I'm using has the S805 with Adreno 420.
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All versions pack the S801 with Adreno 330 (not 420).
Only the version I'm using has the S805 with Adreno 420.
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Oh lol sorry yes A330. Had mini confusion. S801+A330. The Korean version has CAT 6 and S805+A420. However phone is excellent without single doubt. Hope we can unlock the bootloader and can enjoy more with our phones.
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Oh lol sorry yes A330. Had mini confusion. S801+A330. The Korean version has CAT 6 and S805+A420. However phone is excellent without single doubt. Hope we can unlock the bootloader and can enjoy more with our phones.
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Hope so too but it's looking to be unlikely.
This is the first phone I haven't rooted and flashed with a custom rom/kernel and I've owned many (listed below).
HTC Dream
Nexus 1
Galaxy S2
HTC One X
Xperia Z1
HTC Butterfly S
Nexus 5
That's because the stock rom is decent. Of course rooting is always on the cards because I can flash mods or even test mods that I make via CWM/TWRP and make nandroid backups.
Android L will make this device better!
ART runtime with 60 FPS UI and Project Volta can only make this far better. Regardless of whether it's a D855/F400 or F460S.
Problem with LG is timely updates. Imo, the least they could do is to let is unlock the bootloader to compensate.
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Hope so too but it's looking to be unlikely.
This is the first phone I haven't rooted and flashed with a custom rom/kernel and I've owned many (listed below).
HTC Dream
Nexus 1
Galaxy S2
HTC One X
Xperia Z1
HTC Butterfly S
Nexus 5
That's because the stock rom is decent. Of course rooting is always on the cards because I can flash mods or even test mods that I make via CWM/TWRP and make nandroid backups.
Android L will make this device better!
ART runtime with 60 FPS UI and Project Volta can only make this far better. Regardless of whether it's a D855/F400 or F460S.
Problem with LG is timely updates. Imo, the least they could do is to let is unlock the bootloader to compensate.
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Android L is one of exciting stuff that i want to see with ART runtime. Same problem on Samsung. In Turkey samsung devices never get any attention and softwares mostly buggy. I reported one of bugs and they banned me on their facebook page for reporting a critical system bug. Samsung is really loving its customers. Hope LG is not going to ungenerous on updates and send our updates on time. Honestly i have no hopes that we can see Android L before late 2015.