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switch from 601 to 605??!

I'm mad about tables and I have 601 32gb black one and I consider switching to 605.....
is the reviews right and the 605 is better or the 601 ??!

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Ahmedmoataz said:
I'm mad about tables and I have 601 32gb black one and I consider switching to 605.....
is the reviews right and the 605 is better or the 601 ??!
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What exactly are you "mad" about? I own the exact tablet down to the color, and I am very pleased with it. Do you feel you got a lesser processor with the Eynox Octacore, rather than the Snapdragon....do some research, it is about the same depending on usage....if you wanted a gaming tablet, you should have done some research, before buying.
I love mine...coming from a TF-701

So the 605 is better for gaming??!
I saw a review between the 601 and 605 , and 605 was better for some game but the 601 was better in some games too
all I am asking for "am I gonna have abetter tablet or not?"
And in a difference that I can feel by using the tablet not by benchmarks records

Hankafyin said:
What exactly are you "mad" about? I own the exact tablet down to the color, and I am very pleased with it. Do you feel you got a lesser processor with the Eynox Octacore, rather than the Snapdragon....do some research, it is about the same depending on usage....if you wanted a gaming tablet, you should have done some research, before buying.
I love mine...coming from a TF-701
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Don't get me all wrong...I love my tablet it's a total beast it's just that benchmark reviews got my attention

This is my device
Ahmedmoataz said:
Don't get me all wrong...I love my tablet it's a total beast it's just that benchmark reviews got my attention
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The premium price for this tablet, takes into account the development of now exclusive software and functionality, if those functions don't suit your needs, then you are having buyer's remorse.
In the words of comedian Steven Wright "you can't have everything.....where would you put it?"
Show your love of the tablet, and use the forum, invest your time, to fine tune your device to your specific needs. I think that is the point here.
If you are wanting the always bestest, fastest, out of the box....that is an expensive goal, and hard to find everything exactly the way you like it.
I am still fussing with my tablet, to suit my specific needs, and I enjoy the challenge.

Hankafyin said:
The premium price for this tablet, takes into account the development of now exclusive software and functionality, if those functions don't suit your needs, then you are having buyer's remorse.
In the words of comedian Steven Wright "you can't have everything.....where would you put it?"
Show your love of the tablet, and use the forum, invest your time, to fine tune your device to your specific needs. I think that is the point here.
If you are wanting the always bestest, fastest, out of the box....that is an expensive goal, and hard to find everything exactly the way you like it.
I am still fussing with my tablet, to suit my specific needs, and I enjoy the challenge.
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And guess what!!
exynos maybe even better
http://versus.com/en/samsung-exynos-5-octa-5420-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-800

Will the 601 version have us warranty support? If not I may have to wait for an unlocked Verizon sm-p605v to come out.
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If you want the best for features, functionality, and development then go for the P605. It comes with LTE, SD 800 Soc, and can do [email protected] vid. LTE can come in handy if you ever travel internationally, SD 800 will have more developer support if you like running custom kernels, and your videos will come out looking slightly better even if it's mostly in your head. Is it worth the extra cost? That's up to you.

I have done it
I had p601 for about 4 days and i had to return it since it had power on switch problem ...i had to press it twice inorder for the touch screen to work. But i got to use it for 4 days and i have to say that it was laggy and the performance was pretty bad atleast for me. If i am going to shell out money i might as well buy the best. I went to the store and bought p605 and it was amazing. there was a little tiny bit of delay while writing on the p601 but on the p605 it was pretty fast and accurate. the battery charged real fast on the p605. I am a power user..and i usually get about 5-6 hours untill the battery reaches 30-35%.
In conclusion, i would recommend you to get the p605 and you shall not regret. One thing i hate about note 2014 is that the warranty will be voided when rooted, this destroys its maximum potential

Po678 said:
I had p601 for about 4 days and i had to return it since it had power on switch problem ...i had to press it twice inorder for the touch screen to work. But i got to use it for 4 days and i have to say that it was laggy and the performance was pretty bad atleast for me. If i am going to shell out money i might as well buy the best. I went to the store and bought p605 and it was amazing. there was a little tiny bit of delay while writing on the p601 but on the p605 it was pretty fast and accurate. the battery charged real fast on the p605. I am a power user..and i usually get about 5-6 hours untill the battery reaches 30-35%.
In conclusion, i would recommend you to get the p605 and you shall not regret. One thing i hate about note 2014 is that the warranty will be voided when rooted, this destroys its maximum potential
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Mate, ALL new Samsung phones/tablets have warranty voided if you root them...

ultramag69 said:
Mate, ALL new Samsung phones/tablets have warranty voided if you root them...
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It really sucks :| :| the ads and the lack of ability to use any apps in the multiwindow feature is just disappointing :/

Po678 said:
It really sucks :| :| the ads and the lack of ability to use any apps in the multiwindow feature is just disappointing :/
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Yep but that's the way the world seems to be moving, not "what would the consumer like/want" but "the consumer WILL like/want this"...
I believe these companies are shooting themselves in the foot. How many little features start their life out on forums like XDA, then get picked up and packed into the next version of Android as major features?
Less devs=less featues being worked on...
And lets face it, this is unpaid research being done for these companies....

[Q] Buyer's remorse??

Hey Everyone,
Curious to know if anyone has buyers remorse over making the switch to this device from another device?
Does anyone ever run the phone within the confines of the original OS?
What is your real world expectation 6 months from now with this device?
How long do you plan on keeping the device?
What is the most important everyday feature that is a keeper & deal breaker?
How has the form factor impacted the way you look at phones in terms of the screen size vs the size of the device?
Also as a side note. Have anyone ever worked with a fully calibrated monitor like a Eizo or a Ben-Q?
Or for industry folks, any panasonic or Sony broadcast monitors? The correlation being those monitors have the same look at least to my eyes.
Finally have you ever acquired a device that you did not initially have buyers remorse?
I have the phone myself. I am just curious to what the community at large is vibing at the moment...

I'm happy with the G3 especially the screen and camera. I jumped to the G3 from the LG Flex. Nice that the T-Mobile G3 comes with a unlocked bootloader and I'm sure development will be good with time. I'm a phone junkie and usually just keeps phones around 6 months. Jump helps with that.

Sometimes I DO regret getting this phone. It's a good phone, but it's just not the earth shattering, mega phone I was hoping for. Even rooted with no bloatware, i still experience lag, freezes, and subpar battery life. Also, maybe it's just my device, but I'm really not impressed with the screen at all. The blacks seem way too "milky", and i really can't see the difference between this and a 1080 screen, except for when I look at certain photos or videos.
The camera is nice for a 13mp shooter. That's really the main positive.

I returned it after 2 weeks. To many performance trade offs for the QHD screen. Once the more powerful phones hit later this year (Shamue and Note 4) the G3 will struggle. Although that's why the Prime is being released.

Curious what other 5.5" screen are you comparing it to?

Me too returned it after 2 weeks, and the reason was just the screen, everything else is great.
First, couldn't stand this yellowish tinted screen and the poor blacks, and second because of the lag/stuttering

Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?

As I never used dual window, I can't say if it lags there...
Most annoying was the stuttering to me, and this happened nearly everywhere, transitions, scrolling...
But Lg will fix it sooner or later I guess.
As I wrote, the main reason for returning it was the display...

grifter9931 said:
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
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Some people have the G3 lag some don't. I don't notice any lag. From what I read on here the lag is simple fix by changing the launcher and or a setting or two. Removing bloat helps too.
My screen is bight and battery is good enough for me. I guess I was lucky and got a good G3.
As far as the G3 being a "wow" phone it's not but I think those days are over for phones. I was going to wait for the Note 4 but after seeing the leaked pictures I think I'm glad I didn't.

Got the D855 32GB..
All I can say is, I'm so glad i didn't put much attention on others negative opinion about the device...
We all knew it come's with QHD display before buying it, I don't get why too many about it...
As of me, I'm very happy with it... Coming from nexus 7 2013, my criteria for next device was, at least 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage with external (a 64gb internal w/o ext is also okay)... Just saying by the way. =)
There are always those people who have remorse after buying a device by the way..

I've come from an iPhone 4S!:silly:
I bought the International version with 32GB and the 3GB ram (F400S) and I've not found it laggy at all, even with the all the Korean bloatware apps on there.
The main reason I purchased it was because I was so impressed with the LG G2 that I bought for my wife a few months back, just loved the design and screen.
Hopefully when the "Ints" get their bootloader unlocked and we can nandroid backup and get some cool roms (come on PardusHD!) then it should run even smoother.
The battery life isn't as good as I expected, but then I'm usually charging using a USB port (500mAH) so it will take ages and I've hardly ever had it at 100%:laugh: but it's way better than the iPhone 4s battery life.
I'm a little disappointed in the screen, I don't find it as "bright" as the Samsung S ones, I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%.
Overall design is nice and it's very light. I'm not a fan of big screens, but then that's the way they're all heading nowadays....

flapmio said:
I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%
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Sole reason of fast battery discharge

I don't have this phone yet but I know the 32g has 3 gigs of ram and the 16 has 2 gigs. Might be why some suffer lag. Make sure when comparing you specify which version folks

Had the 32GB/3GB version

Fir3blade said:
Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?

Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺

grifter9931 said:
Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug

I don't have buyer's remorse exactly, but I'm not thrilled with the device in every way. I like the camera a lot better than the one on my HTC One M7, and the G3 battery life is better than my M7. That's really it. My M7 felt snappier in every way, and the screen looked better. Once the Nexus 6 comes out I will likely sell the G3 and pick one up. I just can't stand all this locked bootloader nonsense and the lack of development that occurs as a consequence.

Batfink33 said:
Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
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TY I am trying to recreate the stutter as we speak... Interesting stuff

Fir3blade said:
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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I noticed a few myself. I wonder why the reviewers did not mention the stuttering.....

Should I buy the LG G3?

Hi,
I am interested in buying the G3 for £200 (G4 too expensive) are there any major drawbacks or reasons why I shouldn't get it? I previously owned an LG Spirit 4G and LG G Pad 7 (still have it :victory both of which I liked but the Spirit 4G was a bit slow hence want to go for something better.
On a side note does the G3 have Glance View, double tap to wake...? And how are LG with updates for flagships, will Android 6.0 be the last, is firmware stable?
Thanks

ShinOrochiX said:
Hi,
I am interested in buying the G3 for £200 (G4 too expensive) are there any major drawbacks or reasons why I shouldn't get it? I previously owned an LG Spirit 4G and LG G Pad 7 (still have it :victory both of which I liked but the Spirit 4G was a bit slow hence want to go for something better.
On a side note does the G3 have Glance View, double tap to wake...? And how are LG with updates for flagships, will Android 6.0 be the last, is firmware stable?
Thanks
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The G3 doesn't have glance view, but it does have double tap to wake, LG are good when it comes to releasing updates at least to it's flagships. I am on Marshmallow and it is a huge improvement in battery life, my phone was unplugged and sat in my pocket most of the time for 1hr and a half with the brief reading of some new articles and I have 0% battery loss. The UX is smoother. As for future updates who knows, the hardware is capable it just depends on LG's marketing of their future phones. At that price I would say go for it, if it were me the only keep back would be at this stage I would want a phone with a fingerprint reader.

reojo said:
The G3 doesn't have glance view, but it does have double tap to wake, LG are good when it comes to releasing updates at least to it's flagships. I am on Marshmallow and it is a huge improvement in battery life, my phone was unplugged and sat in my pocket most of the time for 1hr and a half with the brief reading of some new articles and I have 0% battery loss. The UX is smoother. As for future updates who knows, the hardware is capable it just depends on LG's marketing of their future phones. At that price I would say go for it, if it were me the only keep back would be at this stage I would want a phone with a fingerprint reader.
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That sounds good. What I really love about LG is the features in the software (little things like the clip tray-does the G3 have that?). It would be nice to see what other people say as well-I want as much info as possible.

My last 2 phones have been the g2 and g3 and i will say both have had there flaws some bugs along the way but both being rooted and modded just right. Best 2 phones ive ever owned stock they eat battery they over heat they lag but most custom roms have solved most of if not all bugs i prfer stock roms on the g3 over non. Due to camera quality. And a few otber things but over all you wont be to disapointed

TheMadScientist420 said:
My last 2 phones have been the g2 and g3 and i will say both have had there flaws some bugs along the way but both being rooted and modded just right. Best 2 phones ive ever owned stock they eat battery they over heat they lag but most custom roms have solved most of if not all bugs i prfer stock roms on the g3 over non. Due to camera quality. And a few otber things but over all you wont be to disapointed
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Agreed - same here.
LG G2 and LG G3 was both very awesome phones, the Display is really High Quality and the best community

That's depend upon your needness.
Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk

Battery Life?
How would you guys rate the battery life? I'm guessing it'd be the weakest point of the phone with the 2K display. Can you get a day out of it with moderate use?

I use for texting and light browsing atarting at. About 7 am til 5 pm then basicly wear it out on wifi games music web randoms sheet from there on out til about midnight and usally got about 20% left but im rooted fulmics stock based rom running xceed kernal also undervolted 10ma screen britness about 50% under auto britness getting 6 to 6.5 hours of total screen on time

Battery Life is not the strongest Part oft the G3.
With average usage and deactivated NFC/Bluetooth/GPS and Display on 100% Brightness (i like it very lighty, but i have readen in this forum the most users use the phone with less Brightness) i have to charge the phone every day at night, so i would say after a 12-13 hrs average usage its low. If the Brightness is lower maybe 15hrs. I wouldn't expact more, but nowadays you have more possibilities to charge (in the car, at the office, on the notebook) so its not very a big point for me personally.

TheMadScientist420 said:
My last 2 phones have been the g2 and g3 and i will say both have had there flaws some bugs along the way but both being rooted and modded just right. Best 2 phones ive ever owned stock they eat battery they over heat they lag but most custom roms have solved most of if not all bugs i prfer stock roms on the g3 over non. Due to camera quality. And a few otber things but over all you wont be to disapointed
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For previous stock-roms your issus are true. But the new MM-rom is the fastest, smothest, stablest and the one with the best battery live I ever had on this phone. :good:

ShinOrochiX said:
How would you guys rate the battery life? I'm guessing it'd be the weakest point of the phone with the 2K display. Can you get a day out of it with moderate use?
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Battery life is moderate on Lollipop, but I have Marshmallow for 3 days now and it has improved immensely, my phone was idle for 1hr & half and I experienced 0% battery loss

I love my G3 on Marshmallow. It is simply flying. LG has done a fantastic job. But honestly at this time (that is 2 years after release of the flagship) I will recommend you not to buy it. Don't misunderstand. Though it's an absolutely brilliant device, keeping future proofing in mind, I will suggest to wait for G4 prices to drop further or consider other options. Of course our xda community will keep on supporting this device for a long time. But AOSP lacks certain LG features like knock code, Stock Camera performance (certain apps come close) and battery life takes a hit. So considering all these factors, I will advise against buying a G3

ShinOrochiX said:
That sounds good. What I really love about LG is the features in the software (little things like the clip tray-does the G3 have that?). It would be nice to see what other people say as well-I want as much info as possible.
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Yes the G3 has the clipboard which I love, also little things like the caller app that pops up at the top without kicking you out of the app you were using, or how you can respond to text messages without leaving the screen you were in. The adjustable keyboard is awesome, and once rooted you can fix little issues like allowing all apps to function in dual screen mode

I cant wait for mm to be released for d850 att. I like. Cm back on my og evo4g but i dont seem to care for it im hoping fulmics will update to it soon but i stayed on kk til about 6 months ago
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Further i am personly waiting for the v10 price to drop but im in no hurry

jtrvk said:
I love my G3 on Marshmallow. It is simply flying. LG has done a fantastic job. But honestly at this time (that is 2 years after release of the flagship) I will recommend you not to buy it. Don't misunderstand. Though it's an absolutely brilliant device, keeping future proofing in mind, I will suggest to wait for G4 prices to drop further or consider other options. Of course our xda community will keep on supporting this device for a long time. But AOSP lacks certain LG features like knock code, Stock Camera performance (certain apps come close) and battery life takes a hit. So considering all these factors, I will advise against buying a G3
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Hmmm I see what you mean. I actually never realised it is two years old, probably because it just turned 2016. I have been looking at the G4 but it is at least £270 (cheapest I have found), which isn't too bad but it is a bit high for me. But I am definitely keeping an eye on it. :cyclops:
reojo said:
Yes the G3 has the clipboard which I love, also little things like the caller app that pops up at the top without kicking you out of the app you were using, or how you can respond to text messages without leaving the screen you were in. The adjustable keyboard is awesome, and once rooted you can fix little issues like allowing all apps to function in dual screen mode
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Yes! My LG Spirit 4G also had those features! This is why I am going for LG.

I bought D851 from ebay, and I find its very lagy (more evident when you play games - temple run e.g) and also i noticed web page loading is very slow (even on wifi) - I am comparing these parameters to Amazon firephone (which i find is way faster). Do you think it has something to do with this particular phone or it is general problem with this phone. I am thinking to return this phone.
thanks.
PS. did want to create another thread.

ethereal123 said:
I bought D851 from ebay, and I find its very lagy (more evident when you play games - temple run e.g) and also i noticed web page loading is very slow (even on wifi) - I am comparing these parameters to Amazon firephone (which i find is way faster). Do you think it has something to do with this particular phone or it is general problem with this phone. I am thinking to return this phone.
thanks.
PS. did want to create another thread.
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I never ended up buying the G3 (don't know what I was thinking), I have the OnePlus X which will receive android upgrades and has flagship specs. But from my experience with LG (mid range phone/tab) I would like to say that their UI is generally quite laggy and choppy hence it could be software?
I don't mean to criticise the G3 as it is a very good phone, but with the G5 around the corner (next month) it is not worth buying anymore.
@ ethereal123 I would return it if I were in your position.

So I finally gave up on this phone.

Got this phone almost 2 years back and waiting ever since for a proper root. I can't believe this phone didn't get an unlocked bootloader inspite of all the efforts and bounties. At&t is really stubborn it seems. Never going to buy an at&t device. New things now. Sold the Note 4 for around 220$ here in India ( 15,000 INR )
And got the oneplus 3. Never thought I'd move from Samsung to oneplus but I've gotta admit it's a splendid phone. Amazingly fast. Got a display brighter than note 4 ( surprisingly ) Even the fingerprint scanner is so much faster than the Note 4. And best part I just had to put 120$ more for it. You know the best part? The oneplus 3 bootloader is unlockable and can be rooted on DAY 1 itself.
So adios to the Note 4 community. Until next time.

You gave up because of root? Why do you need it so much? Marshmallow isnt even a big update on any phone. Also one plus 3 has no sd card slot,lower screen res, crappy camera...you gave that up just because there is no root?

jerses said:
You gave up because of root? Why do you need it so much? Marshmallow isnt even a big update on any phone. Also one plus 3 has no sd card slot,lower screen res, crappy camera...you gave that up just because there is no root?
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I mean to be honest here the oneplus 3 has 16mp camera and as a Note 4 owner the Note 4 definitely sufferers camera quality in low lighting.
As for the 1080p screen a lot people give oneplus a hard time. Honestly it was a great decision for them because is uses less graphic performance which means it can load a game faster than it would on a 2k screen and it's not much of a difference. They still both look beautiful!
Oneplus comes with 64gb of memory and come factory unlocked and the bootloader is unlocked and Oxygen OS is better than Stock Android. People will make custom roms and it will see an AOSP rom of Android N and root way before its even thought of coming to the Note 4.
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I still don't understand how people use Android without root! Why do they use Android without root! I mean there are plenty things you are missing, but first thing, how you are going to install AdAway without root? Do you like a phone with lots of ads? That's like cancer for a phone!
I completely understand OP's frustration, though I don't understand why he couldn't root, he seems India, and G version could be rooted, but whatever. I sold my i9500 just because there was no custom kernel for it, sorry no offence, but Android is meaningless without XDA support, I mean at least to me. But there will always be people who just install different apps and be happy with it and think that's great and achieving something
In any case its great to know that he is liking the OP3. You won't believe it I myself have read full reviews of GSMA and PA, and watched at least five or six Youtube review videos, just because I liked the phone. But the display of the phone seems pure garbage, seriously no sRGB, over 8000K temp? Hmm! Probably could be fixed over OTA, but still! The camera is bound to be better than Note 4, cause its a flagship phone from OnePlus which is released in 2016 in comparisons with a flagship phone which was released two years ago! And basically any OS close to stock Android bound to be better than TouchWiz I think, I am just so tired of it. However, after looking at the whole package, it feels like a different phone from a different league. My main sadness is even after looking at every possible company I could, I couldn't find a phone which suits my needs, darn!

Sold my wife's AT&T note 4 variant yesterday and we couldn't be happier with our new Tmo variant.. Screw you AT&T, never again! We can actually say we own this phone; in it's entirety. Should be illegal to sell locked down phones. You have stolen precious usage time from us and we will wait no more.. Bite me AT&T.. Root.. blah.. blah.. Viper4Android.. blah.. blah.. Ha! Ha! Ha! ( maniacal laugh).. Screw you!!!! (Mic drop)

In my opinion rooting a phone is a huge security risk. If someone gets a hold of your phone with an unlocked boatloader, they can get anything off the phone.
People write news stories and ads pay for those news stories. People write apps and ads pay for their time writing the app. If you block all ads, you are saying, you want everything for free, which is a little selfish, in my opinion. I don't think it is ethical to block all ads.
That said, some apps and sites' ads have gotten out of control, I uninstall nagging apps. I use samsung browser with the plugin to block some ads, but not all.
No root required.
My only need for root is to block some apps from getting excessive personal information which they have no right to anyway. But that is coming in marshmallow...
So... No need for root.

I lost my Att Note4 last Sunday and bought the N910T (Tmobile Variant) this week. I over payed for it ($200) the spen was missing but I knew it was genuine so I figured I'd pay to replace that and after getting home in the dark setting it up I noticed very very light screen burn in which is killing me now that I know that it's there. But I now have root. Running Dr. Ketan S7E/Note5 rom 6.0.1. Waiting on my Spen to get here next week.

To all those above
1) The camera quality is good. Not as good as Samsung's flagship s7 but it's pretty decent
2) You might be surprised after reading this just like I was but the op3's 1080p display beats the Note 4's 2k display. Its brighter, has vibrant colours. Just that 2k is a bit sharper. Nothing that u can notice. But overall the op3 display beat the Note 4. Compared with 3 note 4s. Also compared with s7 edge but yeah here the op3 display wasn't as good. But hey that's manageable for half the price.
3) I didn't give away the Note 4 only due to no root availability, but also coz SD 805 was getting old, and slow. You can't imagine how amazingly quick the op3 is. Especially the fingerprint hahaha seems like I've come from the 1990s in the Note 4 to this wonderful fast finger scanner on the op3. Everything. I repeat , everything is better on the op3 than the note 4
The processor
The smooth OS
The root availability ofcourse
The display ( surprisingly )
The design
The fingerprint scanner
The camera
And all this is after personal usage and comparisons
But yeah I miss expandable storage but 64gb is enough for me.
Hence. Its a win win situation for me
Plus you guys really don't know how important root is for an Android phone.

Shanghai.Knight said:
In my opinion rooting a phone is a huge security risk. If someone gets a hold of your phone with an unlocked boatloader, they can get anything off the phone.
People write news stories and ads pay for those news stories. People write apps and ads pay for their time writing the app. If you block all ads, you are saying, you want everything for free, which is a little selfish, in my opinion. I don't think it is ethical to block all ads.
That said, some apps and sites' ads have gotten out of control, I uninstall nagging apps. I use samsung browser with the plugin to block some ads, but not all.
No root required.
My only need for root is to block some apps from getting excessive personal information which they have no right to anyway. But that is coming in marshmallow...
So... No need for root.
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If anyone tries to misuse your phone u can root before hand and set up android lost as a system app.

The battery life too on the op3 is brilliant due to the light OS
I get 5.5 - 6 hours of SOT everyday.

jerses said:
You gave up because of root? Why do you need it so much? Marshmallow isnt even a big update on any phone. Also one plus 3 has no sd card slot,lower screen res, crappy camera...you gave that up just because there is no root?
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I did after the first week of owning it when it came out. It's been sitting in its box unused ever since I couldn't remove the bloatware and prevent apps I want to use from accessing permissions they don't need (read: can't install Xprivacy)

EkriirkE said:
I did after the first week of owning it when it came out. It's been sitting in its box unused ever since I couldn't remove the bloatware and prevent apps I want to use from accessing permissions they don't need (read: can't install Xprivacy)
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Not to tell you how to waste your money....
But you purchased a high end phone when it first came out (~$800) and have let it depreciate (worth about ~$200 now) without any use since because of root?

sodomanaz said:
Not to tell you how to waste your money....
But you purchased a high end phone when it first came out (~$800) and have let it depreciate (worth about ~$200 now) without any use since because of root?
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It was a gift. and yes. I should have sold it, absolutely, but I was hopeful.

Making the switch myself now. Was going to go note 7 but after hearing airlines are/will be banning its use and continued problems I decided to get an inbetweener in the oneplus 3.
The random restarts were just too much. I tried trouble shooting if it was an app and came up empty. The annoyance of having to use a password to simply see the time and current activities (calls,messages, etc ) when I wake was just too much. I would have given this phone a few more months but marshmallow update has made this useless for my work.
I could live without root but this last month has been far too annoying to deal with especially since I need constant contact with business, sleep or not.

Still worth buying?

I'm currently using an HTC One M7. It's still a decent phone, there are even pretty stable Nougat Roms available for it. But it is noticeable struggling when it comes to more demanding tasks. No surprise really, since it's a more than 4 year old phone.
So would you guys say, that the 5X is still worth buying? How is its overall performance? Especially now with Android O?
Thanks in advance!

Haven't used Android O. I don't recommend the phone because there is always a chance of bootlooping. If you are willing to roll the dice then it is a very good phone after modding it. If you want to keep everything stock then it's probably better to get a newer phone with stock android.

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Haven't used Android O. I don't recommend the phone because there is always a chance of bootlooping. If you are willing to roll the dice then it is a very good phone after modding it. If you want to keep everything stock then it's probably better to get a newer phone with stock android.
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I read there was this bootloop issue, but didn't do much reading on it. Is it a hardware issue?
Flashing a custom Rom/rooting it would be the first thing I'd do with the phone.

Marc199 said:
I read there was this bootloop issue, but didn't do much reading on it. Is it a hardware issue?
Flashing a custom Rom/rooting it would be the first thing I'd do with the phone.
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Yeah it's a hardware issue- basically a low-quality soldering job from Qualcomm. Basically the big cluster of A57 cores eventually fail- though this can be rectified with a custom boot.img/kernel.
I recently purchased a Google-refurb 5X simply for O support (and it was extremely cheap), and it's a fantastic phone. However, as a long term device I can't recommend it.

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Yeah it's a hardware issue- basically a low-quality soldering job from Qualcomm. Basically the big cluster of A57 cores eventually fail- though this can be rectified with a custom boot.img/kernel.
I recently purchased a Google-refurb 5X simply for O support (and it was extremely cheap), and it's a fantastic phone. However, as a long term device I can't recommend it.
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Well, this is obviously not great. But if this is fixable, it might not be as bad.
Official O-support is one of the main reasons I am thinking about buying it. And since the 5X is also out for quite a while now it's not supposed to be a long term solution.

Marc199 said:
Well, this is obviously not great. But if this is fixable, it might not be as bad.
Official O-support is one of the main reasons I am thinking about buying it. And since the 5X is also out for quite a while now it's not supposed to be a long term solution.
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It's not within the ability of a normal person to fix (ie: reflow/repair the solder joints permanently); however, running the CPU with only the small cores (which is essentially the "fix" for the bootloop) should mitigate the problem beyond the practical lifespan of the device.
I'm perfectly happy with a bit of a performance hit- the camera, fingerprint scanner, speakers, dev support, and notification LED are all heckin amazing.

No, I would not recommend it, there are plenty of faster phones that you can get for around the same price. Plus the boot loop issue

I use N5X since 1y. For my low usage it's fine and stays cool, so I exspect still 2y without bootloop. But 2GB RAM will be or become a bottleneck. Remain the fast Andeoid updates - look here for devices, which got Oreo yet.

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I use N5X since 1y. For my low usage it's fine and stays cool, so I exspect still 2y without bootloop. But 2GB RAM will be or become a bottleneck. Remain the fast Andeoid updates - look here for devices, which got Oreo yet.
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Yeah, don't know what Google was thinking when they decided to only put 2 GB of Ram in it.
Well, seems like I shouldn't buy it. Guess I'll wait for the Pixel to become a bit cheaper.

I am quite happy with this phone, though due to 2 things (only 2GB of RAM and no SD card) I'll move to some of the Android One models as soon as they're available in Europe, most probably Xiaomi Mi A1 (as long as one can unlock bootloader and root it without issues). I want to stay with clean Android and guaranteed, early and periodic updates. Not too many choices out there, Pixel is too expensive for me.

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I am quite happy with this phone, though due to 2 things (only 2GB of RAM and no SD card) I'll move to some of the Android One models as soon as they're available in Europe, most probably Xiaomi Mi A1 (as long as one can unlock bootloader and root it without issues). I want to stay with clean Android and guaranteed, early and periodic updates. Not too many choices out there, Pixel is too expensive for me.
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I'd say exactly that. Been using The n5x for 1 year now but thre 2GB of RAM + the SD808 are just too old to compete with devices like the Mi A1. Surely the SD625 isnt a highend soc but it should perform better then the SD808 because of the 4GB of RAM. I personally will wait until End of the year and maybe buy the Mi Mix 2 if i get it for around 350€. We will see.

The 5X runs Oreo and is scheduled to receive monthly security updates for a year. This alone makes it still a relevant smartphone. One year from now you will certainly see much newer phones still without Oreo. The form, size, and fingerprint reader are near perfect for me. Its biggest limitation is having only 2GB of RAM which affects multitasking. This is most obvious when you use a web browser for a while and then switch back to other tasks because there is an obvious delay which means that the app is being reloaded.

It's like having a $200+ brick, mine bootlooped in the worst moment possible. Overall is a great phone if you are willing to live with the uncertainty of when its going to bootloop. Save your money and buy something better.

Bought mines mines in june 2016, using it till this date, no bootloop problem (as yet hopefully), totally worth the price imo just make sure you enable oem unlocking in the dev menu in case something happens.

I wouldn't recommend this phone, and overall any LG phone. I didn't get the bootloop issue yet but I read A LOT about it and it seems it will come for you one day for sure, usually after 1 year. The only other serious problem with this phone is the overheating, it overheats even if I don't do anything. Only after chatting with a friend for ~20 minutes on messenger with no other apps running, the phone gets hot. Games are even worse...
Next, the phone is fine with most games but don't expect to run all the AAA games on higher than Low (Modern Combat 5, Minecraft [barely], Mortal Kombat, Asphalts, Gangstar...). Android O is mostly fine, has some issues here and there but nothing too serious IMO.