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Hello all,
Currently have the S5, previous phone was S4 (RIP unlocked bootloaders) and thinking about making the switch to this new G4. This phone looks pretty sweet and was wondering how the UI and everything is from Samsung? I'm sure some people here have made the switch. Tired of how secure Samsung is now with Verizon. Not an HTC fan, so figured LG was the way to go.
How's the development for these phones? I've skimmed over the G3 forums and seems to be some ROMs, but nothing much.
Basically, if you're stuck on Verizon like me, is it a good move to switch to LG since they seem to eventually get unlocked or be stuck with Samsung and TouchJizz for a little more while?
Or is the M9 just too good to not get over my hatred of it and select that?
Just some options here from you guys to help sway my mind, thanks guy!
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Dennisg34 said:
Hello all,
Currently have the S5, previous phone was S4 (RIP unlocked bootloaders) and thinking about making the switch to this new G4. This phone looks pretty sweet and was wondering how the UI and everything is from Samsung? I'm sure some people here have made the switch. Tired of how secure Samsung is now with Verizon. Not an HTC fan, so figured LG was the way to go.
How's the development for these phones? I've skimmed over the G3 forums and seems to be some ROMs, but nothing much.
Basically, if you're stuck on Verizon like me, is it a good move to switch to LG since they seem to eventually get unlocked or be stuck with Samsung and TouchJizz for a little more while?
Or is the M9 just too good to not get over my hatred of it and select that?
Just some options here from you guys to help sway my mind, thanks guy!
Sent from my S5 using your mom
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I ditched Sammy note 1 on 2013 (No...its just simply died on me one morning on a freezing temperature.) then got G2 then G3 and now have both G3 and G4. And never look back cos Life's Good. Why not much custom ROMs? Simple answer we dont really need them so much. We Stock ROM developers and some tweaks.
LG UX 4.0 is awesome. Try it yourself when its available.
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rogconnect said:
I ditched Sammy note 1 on 2013 (No...its just simply died on me one morning on a freezing temperature.) then got G2 then G3 and now have both G3 and G4. And never look back cos Life's Good. Why not much custom ROMs? Simple answer we dont really need them so much. We Stock ROM developers and some tweaks.
LG UX 4.0 is awesome. Try it yourself when its available.
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Thanks for some of your input! Much appreciated. Samsung has been a headache the last year alone because of all their government contracts now. They heartily beefed up their security. Add Verizon on top of that, and yeah, you get my drift. I lucked out with my S4 having it bootloader unlocked and chances are Samsung will never have another one unlocked. HTC and LG seem to get cracked within a couple months, so I'd rather take a chance with that than switch to crap carriers like T-Mobile.
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
martin9400 said:
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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I switched from Sammy note 1 to G2 then G3 and now have both G3 & G4. Never need run custom ROM B4. Only Stock ROM and Cloudyfa's Stock ROM. I just love the LG UX.
Now with G4 's UX 4.0 simply awesome. No lagging for me for I only have G4 for 2 days and no root. IDK what to tell you try it don't like it just return it xD. Even my 1 year old low end LG Gpad 7.0 V400 got Lollipop OTA update in April. What to complain when LG USA MOBILE send me a Brand New LG G4 H815 to keep.
Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
Yeah, I'm wondering because it took my Z3 about an eon to update from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1, and that I really did not like. But hopefully this is an easier device to fiddle with when it comes to root and recovery than my old Z3, which was a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a good experience with my previous LG Optimus 4X HD when it came to getting it rooted with custom recovery, but man that phone is so old that it just lags when you barely look at it.
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Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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Thanks for the info... Not sure what the childish 'so there' was about though!
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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That's exactly why I always go for sim-free phones and avoid the networks/carriers - much better chance of getting updates sooner (although I appreciate the short-term expense makes this unavailable to some).
Unless you have a Nexus device, I wouldn't even hope to get updates. The G2 was slow as hell, and only received 1 update ever with TMO.
Updates from LG are really good and fast. I have G3 and I can not complain.
Great story
hopefully lg goes straight to android m
Depends on the device. In the UK no G2s have Lollipop yet. Not even SIM free ones.
Hi, I was hoping someone could explain something for me. I'm looking through the forums and seeing the threads for roms and kernels specifically for H815 and H811, usually separate. I'm from the US, considering the G4 on T-Mobile. As I understand it, both can have the bootloaders unlocked (H811 comes unlocked, and the H815 can be unlocked).
I know the H815 has had Marshmallow released, and the H811 has not yet.
What I'm wondering and what I can't find a straight answer to is why, for example, when I look at CM downloads, I can find a v13 for H815 but only a v12.x for H811. The best answer I could find is something about there not being a released bootloader or modem for the H811 compatible with that. I don't know if that was accurate or not, but if it is that confuses me because I've had a Galaxy SIII whose last carrier Android release was 4.4.2, yet is still getting CM 13 releases pretty quickly and other AOSP updates from developers. Is the reason the H811 isn't just because there isn't enough people or developers using that model, so less are working on an updated kernel compatibile with it? I've never had to update my modem or bootloader for an update between Android versions, so I'm assuming that answer was wrong unless there's something I'm missing? I don't think there's a real hardware difference between the two models besides the modems/bands supported, right?
I'm trying to figure out my best option here, have had a Samsung Galaxy SIII since Aug. 2012, bootloader unlocked not too long after, and have really liked it until recently when I was having a slight issue with streaming audio over my mobile network and decided to switch back to stock for a short time to see if it fixed it and compare some settings, stupidly not realizing that in the 3 years I had been away from the stock firmware that Verizon had locked down the firmware again to 4.4.2 and nobody has figured out how to get around it.
I'm looking for a phone that I can install AOSP or CM or similar Roms on (Although I'm not against playing around with the LG Stock Android, it doesn't look that bad, but I want the choice) and am really hoping user removable battery and MicroSD slot. It's not a major must, but I would also like a fairly good camera.
Sounds like my best bet is either the Nexus devices or the LG G3 or the G4 H811. These all either have unlocked boot loaders or ones that are easy to more or less unlock, which I know is something I'll want if I don't want to be stuck on the version of Android the manufacturer supports. I can't stand the size the Nexus 6 or 6P is, haven't had a chance to see the 5X, but it's lacking the removable battery and memory card. I'm currently on Verizon, and would prefer to stay there, but am considering T-Mobile as a potential possibility. If I go with a G3 I'll stay with Verizon, if I go with a G4 I'll have to switch to T-Mobile.
I've seen the G3 and G4 in person, I like both, but prefer the G4 just based on the color temp of the screen, the camera, and battery charging (The G3's in Verizon's store were all low on battery because the charger couldn't keep up, but the G4 was fine I'm assuming because of the quick charging). But, it's looking like the G3 is currently better in terms of development support than the G4. My worry is in a year or so I may be stuck on a version of Android, whereas with my GS3 (Up until it got re-locked) it was still being actively updated. I can get the G3 online for ~200$ versus ~$400 for the G4, and the rest of the specs on the phone aren't different enough for me to care that much about seeing as my GSIII was handing all my requirements until recently.
Wasn't sure if this was the best place to post this, but my only option for the G4 is the T-Mobile H811, and if there is a big reason why that isn't supported (Whether it's because there's not a large enough user base or something else) then perhaps it's best I not consider that device?
It's been a long time since I've done much with porting Android and have been focused on the device I've had for the past 3.5 years, so I might be missing something here. If anyone can clear some of this up for me, it's be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
flick36 said:
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
Blahages said:
Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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That's what I was asking about... Why do they need T-Mobile to release an update? I mean obviously it's easier if they do, but is it required or is it just majorly helpful? I'm asking because my current phone this whole "bootstack" stuff was never needed for developers to release updates. I'm just looking for that clarification to make sure that there's not some new requirement with this device that I'm not used to seeing that would make it unlikely to see development in the future, say if LG or T-Mobile decided to not update to the next version of Android after Marshmallow, if we'd be stuck on Marshmallow, or if the development could keep going like it did on the phone I currently have, where the manufacturer stopped development on Kitkat, but people are still releasing even current marshmallow builds.
I would not buy the G4 again.
For some reason it struggles with games.
Qi Wireless Charging is very very very wonky.
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
player911 said:
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Okay, if that's the reason why the v10 doesn't have any real development going on, that would make sense. I wasn't aware that that was a requirement. Figured it was just that there wasn't enough knowledgeable people working on it yet.
I got a clarification from a friend as to the bootloader question... I guess normally an updated bootloader has been needed moving from 5.x to 6.x, which doesn't appear to have been needed with the GS3 I have... I guess people must have rigged something, because updating the bootloader was never a step with that. He has a Nexus 5 (the orig one) and said he's had to flash a boot loader several times for this reason.
i'm too lazy to read all of this, but i was planing a long period of time to buy the G4, but i found some hardware cons and problems in it as a result of my deep search on youtube , gsmarena users reviews, xda forums and more.
The one problem that made me decide not to buy it and not to think about it any more is the self-die / bootloop hardware problem. read about it on xda bro. Adding this big possibility to the other cons (hardware + some software complexity) made this deal very risky as it will be my second device within less than a year.
i don't know if i'm right and made a good decision, i was believe in this device and i love it ..
Hey guys, im planning to buy a LG G4 but i dont know if LG made a specific model with the problem of Death solved, for me this phone have a great design and the specs i been searching for long time since was released i came from a Moto X2, saddly i been robbed in the bus stop and now im using a LG L5 2 e451g, if LG didnt make a specific model of the LG G4 without any problems, which phone recommend? thanks
SausageWorkz said:
Hey guys, im planning to buy a LG G4 but i dont know if LG made a specific model with the problem of Death solved, for me this phone have a great design and the specs i been searching for long time since was released i came from a Moto X2, saddly i been robbed in the bus stop and now im using a LG L5 2 e451g, if LG didnt make a specific model of the LG G4 without any problems, which phone recommend? thanks
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There's no specific model that won't get bootloop. Except for maybe getting a different device like an LG G5 which is not much more cost depending on condition than a G4 in the US anyway.
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SausageWorkz said:
Hey guys, im planning to buy a LG G4 but i dont know if LG made a specific model with the problem of Death solved, for me this phone have a great design and the specs i been searching for long time since was released i came from a Moto X2, saddly i been robbed in the bus stop and now im using a LG L5 2 e451g, if LG didnt make a specific model of the LG G4 without any problems, which phone recommend? thanks
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No if it bootloops but when. You are better off with something else. If u dont get the rite model itll bootloop and no root or twrp. So a double down whammy. Plus there is very little support left for the g4. But there are still wonderful devs and memebers working very hard to keep her alive
My g4 died a week ago and she was 2 which is extremly old in g4 years lol.
6 to 12 months is average life span
I thought the refurbished g4s didn't have that problem anymore
lilgclav said:
I thought the refurbished g4s didn't have that problem anymore
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there have been reports of all g4s bootlooping
TheMadScientist420 said:
there have been reports of all g4s bootlooping
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How unfortunate
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How unfortunate
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lg is doing a decent job of warranty on them but i feel they should quit and start replacing them with similar speced devices as they seem to have not fixxed the issue
now some people will contridict me and say the newer ones dont bootloop its up to you againg some refurbs from lg claimed to bootloop too
again up to you if ure willing to take a chance on a decent device
I got mine something like year ago straight from LG Poland, as my G Flex 2 had many issuses so they replaced it with G4. Never had any problems with it, even through heavy usage and software moding. Altough LG Poland service seems very good and i don't care as long as i have a warranty (which is two years from the date of warranty exchange). Only thing i would change is the Snapdragon 808(bigger battery would be also nice), but otherwise this phone is superb and it's still seems better than newer LG phones, especially G5. Still best LG design to date and it's shame that this curved design with buttons on the back havn't survived.
Also, i'm writing this down with my G4
Just watch 4K 60 FPS super steady mode! Is this insane or what? Check out the last video!
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vwg4i9jennior3v/20190829_164313.mp4/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vw1s8u9g0fqlp3w/20190829_165507.mp4/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cakeny7h15ho1u9/20190829_181256.mp4/file
Is this recorded with the G8 or the G8s?
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Is this recorded with the G8 or the G8s?
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Neither. LG V50.
@Inerent, when you cross post demos like this to other forums, you should explain the phone you're using. Same question was asked in the V30 forum when you posted this. Unless otherwise stated, users assume you are showing some capability of the phone the forum is about...
As for me, I'm happy with my LG V30+ and have no plans to upgrade to another phone until next year about this time IF LG puts out something in which I'm interested. I also don't want a 1st Gen 5G phone.
My phone is rooted (all V30 variants can be rooted, don't need LG permission), I have Magisk mods that give me G7/V40 camera. No notch, etc. I'm very satisfied with my V30+.
So no matter how awesome the V50 may be, I don't care.
However, others may be interested -- as long as you clearly identify your sales pitch. But G8 is 2019 phone, so probably not many are going change phones this soon. In fact, G8 owners probably specifically chose it over V50 (which came out about the same time), if I remember correctly.
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Neither. LG V50.
@Inerent, when you cross post demos like this to other forums, you should explain the phone you're using. Same question was asked in the V30 forum when you posted this. Unless otherwise stated, users assume you are showing some capability of the phone the forum is about...
As for me, I'm happy with my LG V30+ and have no plans to upgrade to another phone until next year about this time IF LG puts out something in which I'm interested. I also don't want a 1st Gen 5G phone.
My phone is rooted, I have Magisk mods that give me G7/V40 camera. No notch, etc. I'm very satisfied with my V30+
So no matter how awesome the V50 may be, I don't care.
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Got it. Sorry.
do you think this will eventually be ported to the G8? i mean almost everything internally is the same V50 and G8.
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do you think this will eventually be ported to the G8? i mean almost everything internally is the same V50 and G8.
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Not quite the same. Also V series has better software. Telling you because I was coming from G7