In reference to this video
Samsung had recently dropped "Samsung SDI", manufacturer of the batteries for the note 7, does the s7edge and galaxy s7 have batteries manufactured by the same company?
There are reports of s7 edges getting really hot to the touch after charging and even during normal use.
Just hoping one day we won't get the surprise news that all S7s get recalled for the same matter if applicable.
You would have been heard if there were exploding batteries.
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Dri94 said:
You would have been heard if there were exploding batteries.
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However If the plant responsible for those batteries is the same manufacturer that did the batteries for the S7, I wouldn't want to find out the hard way one day.
The flaw comes from poorly assembled batteries, lack of quality control.
Everyone focuses on the Note 7 but there are many complaining about excessive heat coming from the battery area of the s7edge...
You don't need to wait for the news to tell you these things
I would say it's a very very low probability we have exploding phones seeing as the phone has been out awhile and there are no explosions.
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8125Omnimax said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/dont-buy-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-right-now-714859/
See for yourself guys, S7Edge has the same battery...
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This article says nothing like that.
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This article says nothing like that.
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My apologies , article hotlinked isn't the correct one
Ok, So I did the dirty work for everyone. Last link i sent wasnt even remotely close but a little bit of research here and there, and then you find a pandoras box...
So let me take it upon myself to demonstrate that the same battery exists on both the Galaxy Note 7 and Possibly the Galaxy S7 Edge
Please look at the following pictures
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This is the Galaxy S7 Battery from the teardown that occured on SlashGear
Link : http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-tiny-facts-camera-bump-rubbery-gasket-battery-22428436/
The Manufacturer is Samsung SDI, The same company responsible for the exploding batteries due to poor manufacturing process
Here is another pic from the Samsung Newsroom!
Link : https://news.samsung.com/global/in-depth-look-whats-inside-the-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge
SDI Battery in plain sight on a page touting the battery for both the S7 and S7 Edge!
Link to Article backing this up :
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-7-drops-samsung-sdi-batteries-714788/
This is on a Galaxy S7!!!!
Not all S7's have this battery as shown below of this tear down on Ifixit
Link : https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S7+Teardown/56686
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You Can clearly see "Amparex Technology Limited"
Could not find anything that the Amparex manufactured batteries were in any shape form the culprit
Here is a Note 7 Battery with "Donguan ITM Electronics" clearly shown
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Link: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+Note7+Teardown/66389
Youtube video recently surfaced showing how this Dongan ITM Battery can become unstable if a foreign element finds its way into the battery
So we know its not just Samsung SDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cd2WIxKRDk
Truth is we might not even know what battery is in our phones but if Samsung is placing blame on the manufacturing process of Samsung SDI, there are other regular S7's out there that do have the battery manufactured by this company. And the Donguan Battery which isnt mentioned in the news looks to explode very violently when provoked according to the Youtube Video
Cross our fingers we dont hear an S7 or S7 edge horror!
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/09/11/samsung-sued-over-exploding-galaxy-s7-edge/
I guess nobody thought this was possible right....
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Every device made with LiPo batteries shows up in the headlines at some point. You want some iPhone 6/6s fires, here they are:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/21/iphone-6-fire-flight-hawaii/
http://www.khou.com/news/local/man-describes-how-iphone-6s-catches-fire-while-charging/99231628
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-6-Plus-catches-fire-in-mans-bed_id77021
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36955531
The Note 7 has a large amount of devices catching fire (20-30 70 in just the US alone) in a very short period of time, and they found a clear defect in batteries coming from one supplier. No matter how much you try to trump it up, the Galaxy S7 & S7E simply don't have a problem of this magnitude.
There is nothing to see here.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...problems-deepen-damage-reports-rise/90263028/ getting worse for the note 7
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ickedmel said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...problems-deepen-damage-reports-rise/90263028/ getting worse for the note 7
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Bet their stock prices are dropping hard.
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-7-problem-ota-update-limit-charge-60-716163/
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CafeKampuchia said:
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Every device made with LiPo batteries shows up in the headlines at some point. You want some iPhone 6/6s fires, here they are:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/21/iphone-6-fire-flight-hawaii/
http://www.khou.com/news/local/man-describes-how-iphone-6s-catches-fire-while-charging/99231628
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-6-Plus-catches-fire-in-mans-bed_id77021
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36955531
The Note 7 has a large amount of devices catching fire (20-30 70 in just the US alone) in a very short period of time, and they found a clear defect in batteries coming from one supplier. No matter how much you try to trump it up, the Galaxy S7 & S7E simply don't have a problem of this magnitude.
There is nothing to see here.
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There is nothing to trump in this matter, if were carrying around phones that have batteries with questionable manufacturing issues, its worth looking into regardless. You clearly see what happens when the battery is ruptured.
Besides that, new replacement phones are being released this week from what im told in limited quantity with all issues fixed. You cannot simply disavow facts for personal belief. But then again we live in a "I told you so" society. There is plenty to see when you might have a battery that is made from a company with poor quality standards.
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I've just found this App in play market: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.szlab.solarcharger&feature=top-free
Has anyone here used it?
How can this work? :s
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Edit: I'm trying it now under a strong lamp at my work and I can see the battery meter going down... fail.
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Just saw this in the description on the Apps market...
"Note: Of course this application is not charging your phone. You didn't think so, did you?! The only reason for this app is to collect the mentally challenged trolls - who never read the description this far - complaining about every app. Or you can fool your friends with this nice 'charging feature' if you like.
Do not let your device overheat! Be careful when you put your device under the direct sunlight!"
How come people at XDA fall for this? Read the app description which says it's a troll app
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lol...!
of course it's not real, the 'dev' even states that in his description ...
'of course this application is not charging your phone. you didn't think so did you? the only reason for this app is to collect the mentally challenged trolls - who never read the description this far - complaining about every app.'
you didn't think it was real did you dear...?
rakeshishere said:
How come people at XDA fall for this? Read the app description which says it's a troll app
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lol...!
of course it's not real, the 'dev' even states that in his description ...
'of course this application is not charging your phone. you didn't think so did you? the only reason for this app is to collect the mentally challenged trolls - who never read the description this far - complaining about every app.'
you didn't think it was real did you dear...?
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I did paste the description into my first post so your answer is there lol.
I'm surprised that Apple haven't sent the dev a cease and desist letter ;-)
http://www.ecofriend.com/entry/apple-granted-patents-solar-charging-3d-video-navigation/
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Solar
But this technology is possible by capturing ambient light from both manmade sources and the sun and converting it into energy that can be used to recharge a device's central battery unit.
Hmmm...
skidz13 said:
But this technology is possible by capturing ambient light from both manmade sources and the sun and converting it into energy that can be used to recharge a device's central battery unit.
Hmmm...
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Yep - it is possible if you have a load of solar panels surrounding your phone
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Yep - it is possible if you have a load of solar panels surrounding your phone
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...and furthermore it takes much more energy to manufacture a photovoltaic cell than it will ever reproduce in it's effective working life time. Plus the damage to the environment involved in the processing of the chemicals used to make these cells is something the solar panel industry doesn't want you to know. It's one of the reasons the world isn't solar powered yet.
The other one being that even the high-end (expensive) ones that only drop 1% efficiency per year, will see you wait approx 10 years before they've paid for themselves. Few people take the risk of needing to be in one place for that long just to see a return on their investment.
I love the reviews on that Solar Charger app. I got one of my mates with it (he just got his first smartphone). He complained it dropped the battery. I told him he needed to be facing south!
wnp_79 said:
I love the reviews on that Solar Charger app. I got one of my mates with it (he just got his first smartphone). He complained it dropped the battery. I told him he needed to be facing south!
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The best part is reviews and comments who have used it.
Its a hilarious read
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gifton1 said:
Yep - it is possible if you have a load of solar panels surrounding your phone
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Yeah, maybe iPhone 6 will give a try
That app cured my cancer, seriously
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Seriously how do people fall for this hahaha, funny though. Some bone people in this world. But I guess if your not into technology much, you wouldn't know how solar charging works.
Mcyates said:
Seriously how do people fall for this hahaha, funny though. Some bone people in this world. But I guess if your not into technology much, you wouldn't know how solar charging works.
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They're hoping perhaps.
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Apple’s Lawyers: Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus is a Copycat Product
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Give it a rest Apple.
I'm so sick of lawsuits in general, I don't care between who.
In what ways it is a copycat?
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People,have a look at this:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/20/3256590/samsung-galaxy-nexus-minuscule-sales-apple
Oh yea sure, the 4.65" AMOLED screen, contour display, no hardware keys on the front, asymmetrical width of the phone really remind me of the iPhone.
According to Apple you're infringing if you have a thing that does stuff.
Breathing? Forget about it, you're 27 years behind on your licensing payments already.
“I often wake up in a panic thinking I have an iPhone. Then the sleep clears from my eyes and I realize it's a Galaxy Nexus. They just look so similar that it's hard to know."
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“I often wake up in a panic thinking I have an iPhone. Then the sleep clears from my eyes and I realize it's a Galaxy Nexus. They just look so similar that it's hard to know."
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Lol. Love it!
I'd love to shake the hand of the person who bought a galaxy nexus thinking it was an iPhone.
And stealing sales? That's called competition, Apple!
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“I often wake up in a panic thinking I have an iPhone. Then the sleep clears from my eyes and I realize it's a Galaxy Nexus. They just look so similar that it's hard to know."
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Hahaha great
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What I find funny is the trial date, March 2014, so what's the point in a trial to ban a part that most likely won't be on the market as a new device offering which would mean sales if any would be nearly non existence. Seriously they'd have to sue for the next two models just to make 2014 a relevant model or even year.
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I Am Marino said:
Give it a rest Apple.
I'm so sick of lawsuits in general, I don't care between who.
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Hush now...I may sue you. Lmao
But I agree. All of this is getting really old.
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tomh1979 said:
What I find funny is the trial date, March 2014, so what's the point in a trial to ban a part that most likely won't be on the market
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Depends if you get a preliminary injunction or not, which, as you can see from the trial date, would be pretty damaging.
Also, half of these lawsuits are just publicity stunts. By calling the Galaxy Nexus a "copycat product", millions of idiots who haven't even looked one up just read about it and automatically assume that it is.
Because Samsung CUT on potential Apple profit and PASTED it to their bank account..
yeah, copycat..
CMNein said:
According to Apple you're infringing if you have a thing that does stuff.
Breathing? Forget about it, you're 27 years behind on your licensing payments already.
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how did you know my age? if that's your age, you're infringing on my patent and i'm calling a lawyer!
I'm surprised Apple hasn't sued every mobile phone manufacturer out there. I mean how dare all of those other devices make phone calls and send text messages? That was Apple's invention first you know.
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What I find funny is the trial date, March 2014, so what's the point in a trial to ban a part that most likely won't be on the market as a new device offering which would mean sales if any would be nearly non existence. Seriously they'd have to sue for the next two models just to make 2014 a relevant model or even year.
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Exactly, by that time the GN will be practically forgotten or 99.95$
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Samsung should show the percentage of returns and defects of the GNEX. Then Apple would need to pay Samsung money for the negative dollar amount it achieved.
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Samsung should show the percentage of returns and defects of the GNEX. Then Apple would need to pay Samsung money for the negative dollar amount it achieved.
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What defects?
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What defects?
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The LTE version has been a nightmare of this device. Luckily the 3rd one I received works. I consider myself lucky!
The 4G radio's in the phone do not work correctly in a large number of devices. I can only imagine how many users of this phone who do not visit sites like this are dealing with a GNEX that the 4G radio's craps out on and needs reboting to bring it back or the ones who can't even hold a 4G signal.
Let's not even touch the screen quality....
just have a look at this:
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 explodes during charging, witness photos from the aftermath
Phonearena Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 04:17, by Luis D.
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The aftermath of a Galaxy Note 7 explosion is an ugly sight to see. Still brand new, the phablet has basically turned to charcoal. Unfortunately, no one can tell how the accident was provoked, only that it happened during charging with a microUSB to Type C converter for the cable.
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looks like a problem with the non-removable battery!
just another reason that demonstrates that it's not wise to pay 850 EUR for this phone.
what do you guys think?
No info about type of charger, no info about cable used etc. So bullsh.. for me. Btw. It doesn't matter if you have non removable battery or not. I do remember Nokia 3310s which also exploded because of battery or faulty charge so what?
Well. If you use a cheap Chinese knock-off charger, you'll be glad it was only an exploding phone... Too less information to pass judgement yet.
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No info about type of charger, no info about cable used etc. So bullsh.. for me. Btw. It doesn't matter if you have non removable battery or not. I do remember Nokia 3310s which also exploded because of battery or faulty charge so what?
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i remember that non-removable batteries have much thinner packaging.
maybe that can contribute to the problem.
i remember 2 similar issues with xiaomi products this year;
if i'm not mistaken, both were non-removable batteries too.
Btw. "The accident seems to have happened in China, where the photos originate from."
There was a cause where iPhones "exploded" because of non original charger from Chinese after market if I remember well.
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Well. If you use a cheap Chinese knock-off charger, you'll be glad it was only an exploding phone... Too less information to pass judgement yet.
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when you are asked to shell out 850 EUR for a phone, it just has no right to explode/burn itself.
proper engineering should have prevented that.
if it did not, than 850 EUR are just thrown away.
there are plenty of other phones out there that cost 850. You can get the iphone 6s+ with 64GB and pay the same amount and you honestly get a whole lot less.... the price has nothing to do with why the phone exploded. it was probably a bad usb C cable. That guy from google has been warning us!
I think the proper engineering on the other side of the cable was absent.
I have my doubts about this "accident". Sounds like sabotage to me.
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I have my doubts about this "accident". Sounds like sabotage to me.
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what about the xiaomi ones?
same thing???
I was concerned at the headline, but once I read the story there isn't enough info to make a snap judgement call. When I read it was in China I figured they used a cheap knockoff charger of some sort, causing the explosion. Time will tell.
Wouldn't surprise me if this was a ploy for attention sake either.
%100 Sabotage. Happy with Note 7. No scratches, no glitches..
I think you need to educate yourself more about LiPo technology before you go pointing fingers. A cheap Chinese charger could very well be to blame. Want to see what happens when you overcharge a LiPo battery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixIOEPnsgbI
And where is the Samsung logo. The entire phone could be a cheap Chinese knockoff. Or a glass screen protector covering it but who knows. Either way I always think twice before believing exploding batteries do so under typical conditions.
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lisbon2004 said:
just have a look at this:
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looks like a problem with the non-removable battery!
just another reason that demonstrates that it's not wise to pay 850 EUR for this phone.
what do you guys think?
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Do you really think that this is not because of the use of an unknown, nonbranded, low cost and low quality chinese charger? Do, You, Really???
There's not even a Samsung logo under the earpiece?
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what about the xiaomi ones?
same thing???
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I don't know about the Xiaomi ones. But where is the Samsung logo? There should be one directly below the earpiece.
Also, this looked like it was given the blowtorch treatment.
lisbon2004 said:
when you are asked to shell out 850 EUR for a phone, it just has no right to explode/burn itself.
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Big leap on your part to automatically assume this is: A) a Samsung vs. user induced problem, and B) this impacts more than a single Note7 in China. A better question would be "why would you?"
If that's an exploded phone I would be more worried about the quality of the explosives.
First of all, China?
Officially, the Note 7 is not released in China yet, yes? So this bloke prolly need to import this from elsewhere, question is from where?
Secondly, charging conditions.
Which charger did he use? Did he require an adapter due to different plug heads? Which cable? The photos did show him using a USB-C converter. Too many questions, not enough answers.
But lastly, where on earth is the Samsung logo? Yes, it exploded. But it couldn't have blown up the logo so perfectly. The photos shows the screen blown up, not the earpiece area. Even if it did affect, there should still be signs of the logo remaining.
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http://www.newstomato.com/ReadNews.aspx?epaper=0&no=686181
I hope we (US market) are not affected.
Where's the Samsung logo? That looks like a knockoff.
Same story here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...Note-7-shipments-delayed-quality-testing.html
Looks liek the smae photos (With no Logo)
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Where's the Samsung logo? That looks like a knockoff.
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Not sure to be honest, i was wondering the same thing.
But it looks like gizmodo also published the same thing.
http://gizmodo.com/samsung-delays-note-7-shipments-after-explosion-reports-1786000374
Chinese knock off versions.
the first story surfaced on Chinese media outlets before it was picked up by international medias
Hi just wanted to pop in here and say that the Korean version doesn't come with the logo. My wife purchased the phone two days ago and there's no logo as well.
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Japanese and Korean version doesn't have logo, so jealous
Seen a video of this exact phone. In the video, you can see that a 3rd party charger was being used. I think maybe one of those android news videos on youtube. PocketNow?
http://m.news.naver.com/read.nhn?mode=LSD&sid1=105&oid=421&aid=0002254744
Okay according to this article, the problem is the battery itself. There are two different type of battery, one from samsung SDI battery and one from chinese ALT battery.
The problem is the samsung's SDI battery that's causing the battery to blow up.
Samsung is saying that because of the Chinese version of note 7 is using the ALT battery, they will release to China on Sep 1 without delaying it
For the OMG! crowd, here's the original article. Some websites are speculating it could be an Exynos model issue. Korean Samsung products as regular XDA'rs know aren't the same as other regions. The fact that the stop-sale only affects Korea most likely means whatever issue is being investigated (Samsung hasn't said the battery, Reuters is hypothesizing it) is Korean-market specific. If it was a problem affecting all Exynos devices and Samsung only halted sales in Korea that would open up huge liability if someone outside Korea was injured or incurred economic loss after the issue was known.
If the issue is h/w related and requires a design or component change Samsung's screwed. They can't fix a problem serious enough to stop sale for future purchasers without applying an upcoming change to phones already sold. If it is a battery issue caused by crappy third party chargers and/or cables the fix could be as simple as a warning label affixed to the phone and changes to the documentation and manuals. Many a Nexi has been fried by crappy USB-C cables so now more than ever it pays to get charging apparatus that can be trusted.
Here's a great list of what's good and what's crap from someone on Amazon who tested various third-party USB-C cables:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp
Tech giant Samsung Electronics Co Ltd (005930.KS) said on Wednesday shipments of the Galaxy Note 7 smartphone are being delayed as the firm conducts additional quality control testing for the premium device. The firm also said Galaxy Note 7 shipments to South Korea's top three carriers - SK Telecom Co Ltd (017670.KS), KT Corp (030200.KS) and LG Uplus Corp (032640.KS) - had been halted. "Shipments of the Galaxy Note 7 are being delayed due to additional tests being conducted for product quality," Samsung said in a statement to Reuters.
The firm did not elaborate on what potential problems it was testing for or whether shipments to other countries were being affected. South Korean media reports have said some users have claimed that the battery exploded.
Quality control problems, if confirmed, could deal a major blow to the world's top smartphone maker, which was counting on the Galaxy Note 7 to help maintain sales momentum in the second half when competition is expected to intensify. The phone, which launched in South Korea and other markets on Aug. 19, retails at 988,900 won ($887.23) in South Korea.
Production problems for the curved displays for the Galaxy S6 edge phone resulted in disappointing sales last year, and Samsung risks a repeat this year if it cannot address the Galaxy Note 7 supply problems quickly. Rival Apple Inc (AAPL.O) is expected to unveil its new phones next week.
Hyundai Securities said in a report released on Thursday that the Galaxy Note 7's problems appeared to be related to modules or parts, and that such "malfunctions" should be resolved quickly.
"Such problems can be addressed by replacing parts and modules and changing the design of circuits, so supply problems for the Galaxy Note 7 should ease within a matter of few weeks," the brokerage said, retaining its third-quarter operating profit forecast of 8.5 trillion won.
It was not immediately clear when Galaxy Note 7 shipments to South Korean carriers would resume.
The Verge is reporting that; "Samsung will reveal the cause of the Galaxy Note 7’s exploding battery this Sunday"
Moment of Truth?
Can't wait. So we can finally move on and they can finally make a good phone for us again.
Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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Hoping this is a simplistic assumption. There has to be a bigger/broader explanation. Apple, LG, Sony, etc. (put in the same position) wouldn't sacrifice billions and loose a whole product line over "just battery issues". They would recall the device, blame the battery manufacturer and replace the battery with a more reliable one. I could even see a scenario in which the replacement battery has a slight spec bump for "goodwill and PR purposes".
No, there has to be more at play here like an inherent design flaw. Perhaps one that only allow for limited high capacity battery options given the allotment of space in the device as has been reported elsewhere.
Lets just hope they are truthful, yes?
it's seeming likely what some have guessed of there not being enough expansion room for the battery being the second battery issue, as if that was the problem they would need to totally redesign either the battery to be smaller or reengineer the frame and everything else in the phone to free up space for the battery expansion, this is the only way I could it see it being an issue that is unfixable in a reasonable time frame.
but really until we see what they release everything is just guess work, just have to hope the release a bit more detail other than just "battery issues"
I doubt we will get the whole, complete truth. Just enough to regain confidence of consumers and investors.
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I doubt we will get the whole, complete truth.
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What difference does it make? The reason the Note7 was killed wasn't just because of a mysterious overheating issue. There's no question that with time Samsung could have figured it out and corrected it. Once the Note7 became a global laughing stock and lightning rod for negative hits on Samsung's reputation the choice was allow the Note7 to flounder in the public eye while they tried to fix it or kill it.
Here's the S7 Edge and Note7 overlaid. They are virtually the same size. Note the similar width.
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Look at the internals.
The silo for the S Pen takes up almost half an inch vertically running parallel to the battery. To keep the Note7's battery capacity and physical size comparable to the S7 Edge Samsung crammed ten pounds of sh!t in to a five pound bag. To "fix" the Note7 would have required a new smaller capacity battery and/or a complete retooling of its internals. The latter would have taken months which Samsung didn't have. The cost of a fix probably wouldn't have been much cheaper than pulling the plug. So they did. Simple as that. It was a business decision that killed the Note7. The issue leading up to its death was both a technical and ego drive one in that Samsung tried to deliver too much in the packaging they chose and pushed the technology available beyond its limits. A future case study for business majors.
Phlip00ws6 said:
Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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WTF?
This is what they gonna share? This is even less BS than the first guess anyone made when the first battery exploded!!!
This is as retarded as saying "the Battery exploded because of fire inside the phone, because we made bad phones".
xD
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/01/live-samsung-talks-about-the-exploding-galaxy-note7/
Interesting, but not surprising. Most interesting is two different issues in both sets of battery production. Basically the way the battery was manufactured to meet the specs of the phone size (and the SPen added less room to fit the battery so now we know why the N7 had a slightly smaller battery than the S7) meant building a battery that was just too tight for Lithium battery chemicals. But still two different issues in both different productions of the batteries (original run, and 2nd run after the first recall).
I can't help but notice they said failures happened early in the life of devices. So maybe holdbacks were right all along and why are they now pushing to get the last few percent back? I am NOT saying people should keep them, I don't know what this means. If someone can clarify if they know more about these things...
I thought one of the presenters said battery B's is problem is more likely to occur later in life.
"...Samsung may start reselling the recalled Note 7 handsets, 3m of which had been sold, as refurbished phones fitted with new, safe batteries..." The Telegraph uk
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jopa7 said:
"...Samsung may start reselling the recalled Note 7 handsets, 3m of which had been sold, as refurbished phones fitted with new, safe batteries..." The Telegraph uk
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Hmm interesting. Wonder if thats going to happen. Im so fed up with my G3 LG by now and its only been a month or so with it. Miss my N7, still waiting to get some good news on reactivating the thing.
On another note, where all the smart asses who kept telling me it was the battery fit that caused the fires??
This is how Samsung plans to prevent future phones from catching fire
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I thought one of the presenters said battery B's is problem is more likely to occur later in life.
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They did but they didn't say at what point in the tests the ones with manufacturing defects failed nor did they say how many of the 200k phones and 30k batteries failed.
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