just have a look at this:
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 explodes during charging, witness photos from the aftermath
Phonearena Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 04:17, by Luis D.
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The aftermath of a Galaxy Note 7 explosion is an ugly sight to see. Still brand new, the phablet has basically turned to charcoal. Unfortunately, no one can tell how the accident was provoked, only that it happened during charging with a microUSB to Type C converter for the cable.
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looks like a problem with the non-removable battery!
just another reason that demonstrates that it's not wise to pay 850 EUR for this phone.
what do you guys think?
No info about type of charger, no info about cable used etc. So bullsh.. for me. Btw. It doesn't matter if you have non removable battery or not. I do remember Nokia 3310s which also exploded because of battery or faulty charge so what?
Well. If you use a cheap Chinese knock-off charger, you'll be glad it was only an exploding phone... Too less information to pass judgement yet.
Sattero said:
No info about type of charger, no info about cable used etc. So bullsh.. for me. Btw. It doesn't matter if you have non removable battery or not. I do remember Nokia 3310s which also exploded because of battery or faulty charge so what?
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i remember that non-removable batteries have much thinner packaging.
maybe that can contribute to the problem.
i remember 2 similar issues with xiaomi products this year;
if i'm not mistaken, both were non-removable batteries too.
Btw. "The accident seems to have happened in China, where the photos originate from."
There was a cause where iPhones "exploded" because of non original charger from Chinese after market if I remember well.
Señor Sjon said:
Well. If you use a cheap Chinese knock-off charger, you'll be glad it was only an exploding phone... Too less information to pass judgement yet.
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when you are asked to shell out 850 EUR for a phone, it just has no right to explode/burn itself.
proper engineering should have prevented that.
if it did not, than 850 EUR are just thrown away.
there are plenty of other phones out there that cost 850. You can get the iphone 6s+ with 64GB and pay the same amount and you honestly get a whole lot less.... the price has nothing to do with why the phone exploded. it was probably a bad usb C cable. That guy from google has been warning us!
I think the proper engineering on the other side of the cable was absent.
I have my doubts about this "accident". Sounds like sabotage to me.
BozQ said:
I have my doubts about this "accident". Sounds like sabotage to me.
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what about the xiaomi ones?
same thing???
I was concerned at the headline, but once I read the story there isn't enough info to make a snap judgement call. When I read it was in China I figured they used a cheap knockoff charger of some sort, causing the explosion. Time will tell.
Wouldn't surprise me if this was a ploy for attention sake either.
%100 Sabotage. Happy with Note 7. No scratches, no glitches..
I think you need to educate yourself more about LiPo technology before you go pointing fingers. A cheap Chinese charger could very well be to blame. Want to see what happens when you overcharge a LiPo battery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixIOEPnsgbI
And where is the Samsung logo. The entire phone could be a cheap Chinese knockoff. Or a glass screen protector covering it but who knows. Either way I always think twice before believing exploding batteries do so under typical conditions.
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lisbon2004 said:
just have a look at this:
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looks like a problem with the non-removable battery!
just another reason that demonstrates that it's not wise to pay 850 EUR for this phone.
what do you guys think?
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Do you really think that this is not because of the use of an unknown, nonbranded, low cost and low quality chinese charger? Do, You, Really???
There's not even a Samsung logo under the earpiece?
lisbon2004 said:
what about the xiaomi ones?
same thing???
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I don't know about the Xiaomi ones. But where is the Samsung logo? There should be one directly below the earpiece.
Also, this looked like it was given the blowtorch treatment.
lisbon2004 said:
when you are asked to shell out 850 EUR for a phone, it just has no right to explode/burn itself.
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Big leap on your part to automatically assume this is: A) a Samsung vs. user induced problem, and B) this impacts more than a single Note7 in China. A better question would be "why would you?"
If that's an exploded phone I would be more worried about the quality of the explosives.
First of all, China?
Officially, the Note 7 is not released in China yet, yes? So this bloke prolly need to import this from elsewhere, question is from where?
Secondly, charging conditions.
Which charger did he use? Did he require an adapter due to different plug heads? Which cable? The photos did show him using a USB-C converter. Too many questions, not enough answers.
But lastly, where on earth is the Samsung logo? Yes, it exploded. But it couldn't have blown up the logo so perfectly. The photos shows the screen blown up, not the earpiece area. Even if it did affect, there should still be signs of the logo remaining.
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I'm having a hell of a time finding spare batteries in stock - where did you buy yours?
Thanks!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...31908&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2549wt_1139
Try this.
varunkumars said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...31908&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2549wt_1139
Try this.
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Is that what you bought?
Yeh this seems way to good to be true. 2x 1800mAh batteries and the all important battery charger as its hard to charge both batteries with one phone.
But the pricer is really putting me off. Guessing no one has tried them yet????
Really tempted. Are these non-official batteries safe to use with the SGS2?
Hmm it looks too good to be true. I am tempted to get it though.
I just bought something like that. 2 batteries and a charger. I bought it for the charger, as I expect the batteries will be 1.000mAh max. Will buy a genuine battery when they appear someplace trustworthy.
I bought mine on....
Well from www.spider-foot.com they're very cheap and you get 3x screenprotectors for free. I think they are 1650mAh btw!
I just spent $800 on a phone, I'm not going to put some $10 Chinese battery in it so it can explode or melt - I'll just keep looking/waiting...
Search for EB-F1A2GBU and you'll find some genuine batts for 22 to 30E
That said i'd prefer having a batt + batt charger like the chinese sell, cause swapping batt to charge isnt fun, going to test it. For 8Eur, at least, the charger should be fine.. i hope
1 x 2x Battery + USB AC Charger Kit for Samsung GT-i9100 Galaxy S II
910-2B-E (910-2B-E) = €8.45
bilboa1 said:
That said i'd prefer having a batt + batt charger like the chinese sell, cause swapping batt to charge isnt fun, going to test it. For 8Eur, at least, the charger should be fine.. i hope
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I completely agree, I figure I'll suffer for the first few weeks but will pick the one up in this thread once it's released:
Desk stand w/extra battery bay - xda-developers
Just received my original spare battery from Export Prive. The battery is a Korean-market one, and even says "Near Field Communication" on it! Here are photos of the front and rear, the Korean battery is on the left and the UK battery is on the right.
Also got the battery charger for it. I thought it was an aftermarket one since it was so cheap, but it turns out it is an original Samsung battery charger! Also doubles as a stand for your phone.
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|mpulse said:
I just spent $800 on a phone, I'm not going to put some $10 Chinese battery in it so it can explode or melt - I'll just keep looking/waiting...
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I understand your concerns but has anyone experienced exploding or melting, I say this because I have used similar batteries on my Samsung Omnia and the i9000. Never experienced any problems and used them for over a year or so.
Ordered 2X 1800mAh battery+Charger for i9100 for £6 a couple of days ago
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320705013591&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
kab89 said:
I understand your concerns but has anyone experienced exploding or melting, I say this because I have used similar batteries on my Samsung Omnia and the i9000. Never experienced any problems and used them for over a year or so.
Ordered 2X 1800mAh battery+Charger for i9100 for £6 a couple of days ago
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320705013591&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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I purchased the same 1800mAh battery from ebay and exploding or melting is very unlikely as even the cheap aftermarket batteries manufactured in China have an integrated chip preventing overcharging or exploding.
On the other hand the 1800mAh are nothing but an exaggeration because the real capacity is around 1000mAH meaning its just an emergency solution if you should run out of your main battery while on the go rather than a real replacement for the original battery.
Sleepycat3 said:
Just received my original spare battery from Export Prive. The battery is a Korean-market one, and even says "Near Field Communication" on it! Here are photos of the front and rear, the Korean battery is on the left and the UK battery is on the right.
Also got the battery charger for it. I thought it was an aftermarket one since it was so cheap, but it turns out it is an original Samsung battery charger! Also doubles as a stand for your phone.
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When you install it on the phone does it enable NFC?
Better not take the risk dudes.
Intratech said:
When you install it on the phone does it enable NFC?
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Of course it doesn't!
Sleepycat3 said:
Just received my original spare battery from Export Prive. The battery is a Korean-market one, and even says "Near Field Communication" on it! Here are photos of the front and rear, the Korean battery is on the left and the UK battery is on the right.
Also got the battery charger for it. I thought it was an aftermarket one since it was so cheap, but it turns out it is an original Samsung battery charger! Also doubles as a stand for your phone.
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where did you bought it? how much
rjan22 said:
where did you bought it? how much
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From Export Prive. I think it was listed at US$25.
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Of course it doesn't!
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Cheers. There goes the theory that the NFC hardware was integrated into the battery.
hi guys
i was trying to find battery chargers for the i9100
and i came across these
*im not looking for a "portable charger"
charger
looks similar to this
XDA
do u guys think its safe to charge it externally ?
i never came across these before
I just use the genuine Samsung one.
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I just use the genuine Samsung one.
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ohh
thanks for bringing that to my attention
ok ill buy that then
Pardon my ignorance, but where did you get the genuine one from? Google did not help and showed me the same kind of stuff as the Ebay link in OP.
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I just use the genuine Samsung one.
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AnDruid said:
Pardon my ignorance, but where did you get the genuine one from? Google did not help and showed me the same kind of stuff as the Ebay link in OP.
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accessories
its on the bottom
but i coudnt find it any where on the web
im sure they will show up at the first of july
u can go check at ur local samsung retailer
AnDruid said:
Pardon my ignorance, but where did you get the genuine one from? Google did not help and showed me the same kind of stuff as the Ebay link in OP.
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I got mine from Export Prive. They get their stuff from Korea, so they are quicker than the other eBay sellers. I even got the spare battery from the Korean market SGS II as in the photo. Note that you can just make out the words "Near Field Communication" on the battery. haha.
Thanks for telling about exportprive.com . It looks pretty good. Lots of stuff for the phone over there.
edit: finally found the charger and battery both on their website.
AnDruid said:
Thanks for telling about exportprive.com . It looks pretty good. Lots of stuff for the phone over there.
edit: finally found the charger and battery both on their website.
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i noticed the manufacturer is Anymode not samsung so this isnt made by samsung but probably is the same manufacturer
Would my old Blackberry charger still work? Here is a picture of the two chargers (one samsung the other one blackberry)
I don't see any differences. They're both microusb. They have the same specifications as far as I could tell.
Can I use this old blackberry charger, too? (it has a much longer cord hehe)
zkyevolved said:
Would my old Blackberry charger still work? Here is a picture of the two chargers (one samsung the other one blackberry)
I don't see any differences. They're both microusb. They have the same specifications as far as I could tell.
Can I use this old blackberry charger, too? (it has a much longer cord hehe)
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i would say so as the output is the same. i used the htc sensation one and the samsung jet charger without any problems. as long as the output is the same
qwerty warrior said:
hi guys
i was trying to find battery chargers for the i9100
and i came across these
*im not looking for a "portable charger"
charger
looks similar to this
XDA
do u guys think its safe to charge it externally ?
i never came across these before
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I got one of those for my SGS (same charger, different pins). Been using it for about 8 months. Works fine. Batteries not the best but not exactly expensive.
My daughter burned through one of them in 50 minutes in the car , but as a spare for using the phone only, fine for 8/10 hours moderate use.
qwerty warrior said:
i noticed the manufacturer is Anymode not samsung so this isnt made by samsung but probably is the same manufacturer
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Well, Anymode seems to be the battery and other accessories supplier for Samsung, if you look at their LinkedIn page.
http://www.linkedin.com/company/anymode-corporation
I got one of those external black battery chargers from eBay yesterday. It came with two 1800mAh batteried (1800? yeah right ).
The charger is extremely slow! Yesterday I discharged the original battery completely and today I put it in the charger. It's been 390 minutes and it is still charging. Yes, that is 6,5 hours and not done yet!
Nice to have an external charger, but this is rediculous.
How long does the original Samsung charger take to go from 0 -> 100% charge?
UPDATE:
Right... 7,5 hour to charge the original battery. That's 450 minutes with an average charge of 220mAh. Most likely the slowest charging I have seen in all my years of using mobile phones.
sbcdk said:
How long does the original Samsung charger take to go from 0 -> 100% charge?
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When plugged to the Samsung power adapter, it takes 3 hours 20 minutes average for me. When I use the Samsung external battery charger, it takes slightly shorter, I think 3 hours. It is probably because the battery is not being used to power the phone as is the case with the AC power adapter.
Thanks. Yes, that sounds reasonable. So around 650-700mAh on the original standalone charger, just like the internal. Better than my eBay piece of... you know what ;-)
Just bringing this to everyone's attention.
Could someone tell me how this one works and if it will effect NFC?
http://dx.com/p/5500mah-wireless-charger-for-samsung-i9300-galaxy-s3-white-black-164245
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Powermat finally
Looks like powermat is finally going to start shipping too. Unfortunately they are only in white also
http://www.duracellpowermat.com/wireless-power-cases/galaxys3.html
$34-$55!?!? F*ck that! I'll continue using my $1 micro usb cable lol. Thanks anyways
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OTAw said:
$34-$55!?!? F*ck that! I'll continue using my $1 micro usb cable lol. Thanks anyways
-*Sent from my T-Mobile GS3*-
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The one that the other guy posted only includes the case for $34. You have to buy the mat seperately. The one I found comes with both....but I'm sure that the quality isn't as good though.
that powermate case looks fat!
This is not exactly wireless, the four tits on the bottom of the door contact the bars on pad to charge. I have the qi wireless door from Verizon and the energizer two position pad. It works great but there is supposed to be a update that will increase the distance it will charge. Thus most cases will not be a problem. The current one is about 5mm I believe and suppose to be going to 40mm. Distance between the door and charger. Goodluck
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Hmmm...... I don't think the quality on that thing would be very good, $55 seems pretty steep, I'm pretty sure you can get something of better quality for cheaper or the same price.
well.. technically it's wireless...... since it doesn't require a plugging on cables.... but yeah.. it's just one of those with contacts....
mputtr said:
well.. technically it's wireless...... since it doesn't require a plugging on cables.... but yeah.. it's just one of those with contacts....
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Yeah it looks like the power runs through the power mat on those metal strips, and the contacts on the back case make a connection with that. Doesn't seem very safe or efficient, plus those contacts on the back of the case seem like they'd scratch the powermat strips, and if you look carefully on the bottom right of the first picture it looks like that may be the case, could also be writing or a reflection or something else too.
I think the price doesn't justify it. I'll stick to wired charging and wait for a phone that includes wireless charging out of the box.
wireless
This is not Qi(only way to go) nor Powermat (not bad, but not Qi...yet) nor is it inductive charging. It is CONDUCTIVE (Duracell) and useless...In this case, use a USB cable instead
I hate to play devil's advocate here, but by using this type of charging, the only thing you're doing is reducing the number of inserts/removals on your usb port thus having it last abit longer... but these things are also rated for 50,000+ insert/removal cycles so it's kinda hard to use these devices long enough to go over that limit.
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the only thing you're doing is reducing the number of inserts/removals on your usb port thus having it last abit longer
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You're completely missing the point. The main idea is to increase convenience, which this does big time. I don't care at all about the longevity of USB port.
That said, I bought a Verizon pad for $15 on eBay, and am now trying to find a stupid charging cover that isn't made in someone's kitchen. Finding the latter is the hard part.
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You're completely missing the point. The main idea is to increase convenience, which this does big time. I don't care at all about the longevity of USB port.
That said, I bought a Verizon pad for $15 on eBay, and am now trying to find a stupid charging cover that isn't made in someone's kitchen. Finding the latter is the hard part.
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i'm not missing the point at all. The convenience factor is implied with that. There is no other real reason for you to get wireless charging.
What i'm saying is that it's an added "benefit" for this specific charger.
Also, send a PM to kms108. he's selling the receiver pad for the Qi chargers.
I'm buying the Nokia chargers as soon as I can find one hopefully this weekend seeing that the Nokia lumia 920 is released on Friday. I have the Qi receiver and it works great on the LG (Verizon Pad) just want something more appealing. They also say that the charger is more forgiving on where you place the phone do to new technology from Texas instruments.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...vYDP1wRqcU82T7-bg&sig2=vWaMClRqBgHlIWDuixIt3Q
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In reference to this video
Samsung had recently dropped "Samsung SDI", manufacturer of the batteries for the note 7, does the s7edge and galaxy s7 have batteries manufactured by the same company?
There are reports of s7 edges getting really hot to the touch after charging and even during normal use.
Just hoping one day we won't get the surprise news that all S7s get recalled for the same matter if applicable.
You would have been heard if there were exploding batteries.
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Dri94 said:
You would have been heard if there were exploding batteries.
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However If the plant responsible for those batteries is the same manufacturer that did the batteries for the S7, I wouldn't want to find out the hard way one day.
The flaw comes from poorly assembled batteries, lack of quality control.
Everyone focuses on the Note 7 but there are many complaining about excessive heat coming from the battery area of the s7edge...
You don't need to wait for the news to tell you these things
I would say it's a very very low probability we have exploding phones seeing as the phone has been out awhile and there are no explosions.
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8125Omnimax said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/dont-buy-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-right-now-714859/
See for yourself guys, S7Edge has the same battery...
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This article says nothing like that.
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This article says nothing like that.
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My apologies , article hotlinked isn't the correct one
Ok, So I did the dirty work for everyone. Last link i sent wasnt even remotely close but a little bit of research here and there, and then you find a pandoras box...
So let me take it upon myself to demonstrate that the same battery exists on both the Galaxy Note 7 and Possibly the Galaxy S7 Edge
Please look at the following pictures
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This is the Galaxy S7 Battery from the teardown that occured on SlashGear
Link : http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-tiny-facts-camera-bump-rubbery-gasket-battery-22428436/
The Manufacturer is Samsung SDI, The same company responsible for the exploding batteries due to poor manufacturing process
Here is another pic from the Samsung Newsroom!
Link : https://news.samsung.com/global/in-depth-look-whats-inside-the-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge
SDI Battery in plain sight on a page touting the battery for both the S7 and S7 Edge!
Link to Article backing this up :
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-7-drops-samsung-sdi-batteries-714788/
This is on a Galaxy S7!!!!
Not all S7's have this battery as shown below of this tear down on Ifixit
Link : https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S7+Teardown/56686
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You Can clearly see "Amparex Technology Limited"
Could not find anything that the Amparex manufactured batteries were in any shape form the culprit
Here is a Note 7 Battery with "Donguan ITM Electronics" clearly shown
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Link: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+Note7+Teardown/66389
Youtube video recently surfaced showing how this Dongan ITM Battery can become unstable if a foreign element finds its way into the battery
So we know its not just Samsung SDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cd2WIxKRDk
Truth is we might not even know what battery is in our phones but if Samsung is placing blame on the manufacturing process of Samsung SDI, there are other regular S7's out there that do have the battery manufactured by this company. And the Donguan Battery which isnt mentioned in the news looks to explode very violently when provoked according to the Youtube Video
Cross our fingers we dont hear an S7 or S7 edge horror!
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/09/11/samsung-sued-over-exploding-galaxy-s7-edge/
I guess nobody thought this was possible right....
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Every device made with LiPo batteries shows up in the headlines at some point. You want some iPhone 6/6s fires, here they are:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/21/iphone-6-fire-flight-hawaii/
http://www.khou.com/news/local/man-describes-how-iphone-6s-catches-fire-while-charging/99231628
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-6-Plus-catches-fire-in-mans-bed_id77021
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36955531
The Note 7 has a large amount of devices catching fire (20-30 70 in just the US alone) in a very short period of time, and they found a clear defect in batteries coming from one supplier. No matter how much you try to trump it up, the Galaxy S7 & S7E simply don't have a problem of this magnitude.
There is nothing to see here.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...problems-deepen-damage-reports-rise/90263028/ getting worse for the note 7
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ickedmel said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...problems-deepen-damage-reports-rise/90263028/ getting worse for the note 7
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Bet their stock prices are dropping hard.
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-7-problem-ota-update-limit-charge-60-716163/
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CafeKampuchia said:
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Every device made with LiPo batteries shows up in the headlines at some point. You want some iPhone 6/6s fires, here they are:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/21/iphone-6-fire-flight-hawaii/
http://www.khou.com/news/local/man-describes-how-iphone-6s-catches-fire-while-charging/99231628
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-6-Plus-catches-fire-in-mans-bed_id77021
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36955531
The Note 7 has a large amount of devices catching fire (20-30 70 in just the US alone) in a very short period of time, and they found a clear defect in batteries coming from one supplier. No matter how much you try to trump it up, the Galaxy S7 & S7E simply don't have a problem of this magnitude.
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There is nothing to trump in this matter, if were carrying around phones that have batteries with questionable manufacturing issues, its worth looking into regardless. You clearly see what happens when the battery is ruptured.
Besides that, new replacement phones are being released this week from what im told in limited quantity with all issues fixed. You cannot simply disavow facts for personal belief. But then again we live in a "I told you so" society. There is plenty to see when you might have a battery that is made from a company with poor quality standards.
The Verge is reporting that; "Samsung will reveal the cause of the Galaxy Note 7’s exploding battery this Sunday"
Moment of Truth?
Can't wait. So we can finally move on and they can finally make a good phone for us again.
Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
Phlip00ws6 said:
Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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Hoping this is a simplistic assumption. There has to be a bigger/broader explanation. Apple, LG, Sony, etc. (put in the same position) wouldn't sacrifice billions and loose a whole product line over "just battery issues". They would recall the device, blame the battery manufacturer and replace the battery with a more reliable one. I could even see a scenario in which the replacement battery has a slight spec bump for "goodwill and PR purposes".
No, there has to be more at play here like an inherent design flaw. Perhaps one that only allow for limited high capacity battery options given the allotment of space in the device as has been reported elsewhere.
Lets just hope they are truthful, yes?
it's seeming likely what some have guessed of there not being enough expansion room for the battery being the second battery issue, as if that was the problem they would need to totally redesign either the battery to be smaller or reengineer the frame and everything else in the phone to free up space for the battery expansion, this is the only way I could it see it being an issue that is unfixable in a reasonable time frame.
but really until we see what they release everything is just guess work, just have to hope the release a bit more detail other than just "battery issues"
I doubt we will get the whole, complete truth. Just enough to regain confidence of consumers and investors.
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I doubt we will get the whole, complete truth.
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What difference does it make? The reason the Note7 was killed wasn't just because of a mysterious overheating issue. There's no question that with time Samsung could have figured it out and corrected it. Once the Note7 became a global laughing stock and lightning rod for negative hits on Samsung's reputation the choice was allow the Note7 to flounder in the public eye while they tried to fix it or kill it.
Here's the S7 Edge and Note7 overlaid. They are virtually the same size. Note the similar width.
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Look at the internals.
The silo for the S Pen takes up almost half an inch vertically running parallel to the battery. To keep the Note7's battery capacity and physical size comparable to the S7 Edge Samsung crammed ten pounds of sh!t in to a five pound bag. To "fix" the Note7 would have required a new smaller capacity battery and/or a complete retooling of its internals. The latter would have taken months which Samsung didn't have. The cost of a fix probably wouldn't have been much cheaper than pulling the plug. So they did. Simple as that. It was a business decision that killed the Note7. The issue leading up to its death was both a technical and ego drive one in that Samsung tried to deliver too much in the packaging they chose and pushed the technology available beyond its limits. A future case study for business majors.
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Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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WTF?
This is what they gonna share? This is even less BS than the first guess anyone made when the first battery exploded!!!
This is as retarded as saying "the Battery exploded because of fire inside the phone, because we made bad phones".
xD
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/01/live-samsung-talks-about-the-exploding-galaxy-note7/
Interesting, but not surprising. Most interesting is two different issues in both sets of battery production. Basically the way the battery was manufactured to meet the specs of the phone size (and the SPen added less room to fit the battery so now we know why the N7 had a slightly smaller battery than the S7) meant building a battery that was just too tight for Lithium battery chemicals. But still two different issues in both different productions of the batteries (original run, and 2nd run after the first recall).
I can't help but notice they said failures happened early in the life of devices. So maybe holdbacks were right all along and why are they now pushing to get the last few percent back? I am NOT saying people should keep them, I don't know what this means. If someone can clarify if they know more about these things...
I thought one of the presenters said battery B's is problem is more likely to occur later in life.
"...Samsung may start reselling the recalled Note 7 handsets, 3m of which had been sold, as refurbished phones fitted with new, safe batteries..." The Telegraph uk
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jopa7 said:
"...Samsung may start reselling the recalled Note 7 handsets, 3m of which had been sold, as refurbished phones fitted with new, safe batteries..." The Telegraph uk
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Hmm interesting. Wonder if thats going to happen. Im so fed up with my G3 LG by now and its only been a month or so with it. Miss my N7, still waiting to get some good news on reactivating the thing.
On another note, where all the smart asses who kept telling me it was the battery fit that caused the fires??
This is how Samsung plans to prevent future phones from catching fire
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I thought one of the presenters said battery B's is problem is more likely to occur later in life.
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They did but they didn't say at what point in the tests the ones with manufacturing defects failed nor did they say how many of the 200k phones and 30k batteries failed.
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