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Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.
Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back
So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...
Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\
Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.
nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less
nerys71 said:
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
nerys71 said:
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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Brother....
For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you
2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...
openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview
probbiethe1 said:
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.
so i decided y not buy the smart watch since i already have the headset pro to see how this comes in handy.
So first of the smart watch and head set pro do the same sh*t, only difference besides there looks is the watch has more apps.
Now even thou they do mostly the same thing. The watch does work good in most part's. Easily with phone outta sight ,you can check your message ,fb,tw,Google ect and even check weather and answer calls. Control music and volume. I find all of this to work out pretty well when all 3 devices are snyc, phone,watch,headset.
The bad and good.
The watch when not in use goes into sleep mode ,so in order to see the time you gotta double tab screen. But you can switch options to different watch looks to keep the screen on according to movement . Thats kool and all but can kill battery life quick. I have no problem tapping lol.
one Down Fall i notice .
Even thou i can read txt message, set up a reply option or call, i wish i can actually type and reply from the damn watch itself
Good example, Google maps for the watch is one of the best application on here,keyboard pops up, easy to use. Type in any location from the watch easy have a gps on my hand only if it talked. So they could have easily done this for texting.
Using all 3 device in public like on bus or at work, works out very well for me. Only time you gotta pull ur phone is when its time to reply to a text and its so anyyoing knowing this watch can do so much more.
Well am not done with this review ill be back with more so i hope this helps out anyone even if your not interested. It's always good to have information Laying around in case lol.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
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Read a lot of reviews online about this and decided NOT to buy it. Horrible screen, clumsy to use, etc.
joe3681 said:
Read a lot of reviews online about this and decided NOT to buy it. Horrible screen, clumsy to use, etc.
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Ditto. Not because of quality, but function versus dollars. However I know there's 3rd party mods/apps for the watch, I'd like to hear more on those in execution.
Maybe Spectre can chime in too with his review.
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I really like the smart watch. I've used it numerous times to change ring volume to vibrate or silent, view text and emails without pulling my phone out. Its nice to be able to see whether an email it txt is important and needs a reply right away or not without getting your phone out.
Honestly you don't really think you would use it that much until you actually have it. My biggest complaint is that the watch screen isn't bright enough when in direct sunlight.
The google maps app is awesome. I haven't used a lot of the other third party apps.
I don't have a problem with how the phone functions as far as having to double tap the screen or push the side button to turn the screen on. Swiping is easy. The apps could use some more function like replies and stuff but honestly that's not really the idea behind it. Its quick access to view emails, txt, Facebook, twitter and other things without having to use the phone in hand and it does that real well.
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Just heard that apple is coming out with a smart watch version.
http://mobile.eweek.com/mobile/apple-intel-collaborating-on-smartwatch-report/
~Jaramie
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Yea I read bout it 3 months ago am not even worried , they got the stupid nano watch already it sucks compared to smart watch only for music and Sony already working on there new Smart watch idk if it's gona be called smart watch 2 or new name.
I'll post the link for that once I find it again.
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Smart watch update , refer to pic below for details.
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some of the New faces ,definitely will update my review once i get a full day use of this update.
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Read a lot of reviews online about this and decided NOT to buy it. Horrible screen, clumsy to use, etc.
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I have one, and I find it to be very useful. My watch was a present. I thought it was going to be a useless gimmick, but now I can barely live without it.
On the way to work (on the bus), I usually have music playing. I can leave my phone in my pocket, and switch tracks easily. At home I often connect my phone to a dock for playing music. Again, I use my watch as a remote.
I prefer to have my phone on silent/vibrate, but I have missed calls because I do not always notice the vibration. With my watch, the watch vibrates on a call! I never miss calls now.
Having email alerts and SMS alerts is pretty handy. I have wired up my home alarm system to my home network - it sends emails when my alarm goes off. These come straight through to my watch now.
The screen is very good indoors. Outside, it is pretty hard to read in direct sunlight, and not great (but usable) in shade.
The UI is pretty poorly thought out. A back button would make life much easier. To go "back" on the watch, you need to do a pinch gesture. This is pretty hard on a tiny screen. A hardware back button could easily be located on the left side of the watch.
One puzzling thing is that the API does not allow 3rd party developers to add new watch faces. I would have thought this would be a big selling point. Writing a watch face as a complete 3rd party app does not work as well, as it tends to chew more battery and doesn't integrate with the other apps properly.
The connection to the charger is stupid, whoever thought of it should be ashamed. It is very finicky. I've found the best way to deal with it, is to wrap a rubber band around the watch and cable - otherwise it may stop charging (it sucks to have it go flat 30 minutes after getting to work).
The bluetooth connection uses v2, not v3 - so it uses more battery than it needs to. Having the watch at a distance from the phone will cause it to go through batteries a lot faster.
The watch itself is relatively tough, but the clip is not. I actually broke one of the little clips that hold the watch to the watch strap. Luckily for me, the guys at Sony Central in Brisbane had a watch that had a broken screen - so they helped me to transfer the clip from that watch onto mine (the alternative was to wait for 4 weeks for a warranty repair).
On the whole, I like the watch! It's not perfect, but it is very usable.
The good
Music control
Alerts
Vibrate on call
The bad
Clip is fragile
Charging connection sucks
Cannot add 3rd party watch faces
Screen sucks in sunlight
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some of the New faces ,definitely will update my review once i get a full day use of this update.
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I found the new faces ok for a few minutes, but I keep going back to the large digital watch face. It is by far the most readable. This watch really needs more digital faces!
Could some of you guys suggest which one to buy.?
I saw bunch of models and I don't know which one to buy...
Tnx
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Could some of you guys suggest which one to buy.?
I saw bunch of models and I don't know which one to buy...
Tnx
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There is only one model of Smart Watch. Just buy one from Sony or eBay or Amazon or on polish site Allegro.pl
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Vaith said:
There is only one model of Smart Watch. Just buy one from Sony or eBay or Amazon or on polish site Allegro.pl
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Becouse I saw some models on eBay.
O.K so, we have only one model.
Tnx
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deadcatt said:
I have one, and I find it to be very useful. My watch was a present. I thought it was going to be a useless gimmick, but now I can barely live without it.
On the way to work (on the bus), I usually have music playing. I can leave my phone in my pocket, and switch tracks easily. At home I often connect my phone to a dock for playing music. Again, I use my watch as a remote.
I prefer to have my phone on silent/vibrate, but I have missed calls because I do not always notice the vibration. With my watch, the watch vibrates on a call! I never miss calls now.
Having email alerts and SMS alerts is pretty handy. I have wired up my home alarm system to my home network - it sends emails when my alarm goes off. These come straight through to my watch now.
The screen is very good indoors. Outside, it is pretty hard to read in direct sunlight, and not great (but usable) in shade.
The UI is pretty poorly thought out. A back button would make life much easier. To go "back" on the watch, you need to do a pinch gesture. This is pretty hard on a tiny screen. A hardware back button could easily be located on the left side of the watch.
One puzzling thing is that the API does not allow 3rd party developers to add new watch faces. I would have thought this would be a big selling point. Writing a watch face as a complete 3rd party app does not work as well, as it tends to chew more battery and doesn't integrate with the other apps properly.
The connection to the charger is stupid, whoever thought of it should be ashamed. It is very finicky. I've found the best way to deal with it, is to wrap a rubber band around the watch and cable - otherwise it may stop charging (it sucks to have it go flat 30 minutes after getting to work).
The bluetooth connection uses v2, not v3 - so it uses more battery than it needs to. Having the watch at a distance from the phone will cause it to go through batteries a lot faster.
The watch itself is relatively tough, but the clip is not. I actually broke one of the little clips that hold the watch to the watch strap. Luckily for me, the guys at Sony Central in Brisbane had a watch that had a broken screen - so they helped me to transfer the clip from that watch onto mine (the alternative was to wait for 4 weeks for a warranty repair).
On the whole, I like the watch! It's not perfect, but it is very usable.
The good
Music control
Alerts
Vibrate on call
The bad
Clip is fragile
Charging connection sucks
Cannot add 3rd party watch faces
Screen sucks in sunlight
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I found the new faces ok for a few minutes, but I keep going back to the large digital watch face. It is by far the most readable. This watch really needs more digital faces!
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No lie I do that too stands most of the time now.
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So I have used my smart watch on gs3 and its fully compatible.
Kool thing bout gs3 Bluetooth it turns itself on automaticlly .wish ion had that feature
Also this new awsome camera app is the bomb!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.extras.liveware.extension.camera
And can someone let me know if there watch takes for ever to load certain apps
Thanks.
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very good
very good
Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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id hate to see that happen but yes most of the sites that had bad early reviews are sites with clear apple bias proved multiple times. Im hoping maybe they just had early software or hardware
Idk if I agree with you.. Those media sites probably only got a hold of the watch on the 4th and had to write a review within a day because the watch was released on the 5th... One day is never enough for a good judgment of battery life
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nah, probably all the tech sites got this on their hands already couple of weeks ago but since they have embargo to post anything before the 5th they couldn't say anything. I was actually suspecting this already some weeks ago since all the major tech-sites went silent on Moto360.
They have had their fare share to test the moto 360 and if they say the battery is awful I am willing to believe them. I mean the battery size is very small and for some reason Moto went for a very power hungry processor. I have no idea why they made such a big mistake but this is what we have now.
Actually I find most websites extremely Pro-Motorola, with "this is the first real smartwatch" and the like comments.
The original Galaxy Gear look like a "Smart Watch" to me.
Moto fans sound like apple sheep, look Motorola invented the first smart watch.
The latest battery life test I seen said the watch was turned on 7:30 am and went on until 11 pm and had 28% left.
Well my Gear Live has the same battery life but I do not have to flick my wrist or press and button to turn the display on.
If I used the Gear Live the same way it last 2 days easy.
In ambient mode they say 13 hours???
Really go out in the evening and your "cool" looking watch turns into dead weight.
You do not speak for everybody, why not buy a round phone?
Because you do things like read email and the round shape is a waste of screen space.
The same can be said with a watch, I read emails on my watch.... Why would I want it to be round.
I have since the age of digital watches always had a rectangular watch, and this means since the 90s
but face it Motorola is a Chinese company (soon) you do not have to be loyal to it, and the battery life of the Moto 360 is joke.
Because I don't want to look like a dork?
Plus, that's not how I'd like to use my smartwatch- I don't want it for reading emails, I just need to know that I got an email. If I want to read it, I'd just pull my phone out and read it. Much in the same way, I don't use my phone to write up long replies to emails, that's not what it's for, I use my laptop to do that, after I've read it on my phone.
Eliad Kimhy said:
Because I don't want to look like a dork?
Plus, that's not how I'd like to use my smartwatch- I don't want it for reading emails, I just need to know that I got an email. If I want to read it, I'd just pull my phone out and read it. Much in the same way, I don't use my phone to write up long replies to emails, that's not what it's for, I use my laptop to do that, after I've read it on my phone.
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this is exactly how I plan on using the watch. Sure, in a pinch I can read the emails on my phone, but it's not ideal. Same thing with my phone... Sure, I can respond to emails from my phone, but ideally I would reply from my computer.
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this is exactly how I plan on using the watch. Sure, in a pinch I can read the emails on my phone, but it's not ideal. Same thing with my phone... Sure, I can respond to emails from my phone, but ideally I would reply from my computer.
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me too. more-so to know if the message i received needs immediate response or if it can wait. some people expect the watch to be more than just an extension of a notification center.
pierrekid said:
Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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no doubt in my mind.
i cant wait until google updates android wear.
I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
theraker007 said:
I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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It's obviously not for everyone. For me personally, I started wearing watches recently so instead of having to whip out my phone to check the time, I can just look down on my wrist. Having a smart watch will now allow me to determine if a message is worth responding to immediately or if it can wait without having to use my phone to check.
Isn't it possible that some of these reviews were written about a pre-release device? I know that the embargo was only lifted on Friday, but we have seen these things in the wild for the past 3-4 months on the wrists of various pop-tech people.
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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No, "everybody" here is not confused. Many, many people are confirming what the reviews have said, or even saying that they can't get into double digits in terms of hours of battery life with light to moderate use.
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No, "everybody" here is not confused. Many, many people are confirming what the reviews have said, or even saying that they can't get into double digits in terms of hours of battery life with light to moderate use.
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Uhh, where are the many people? I'm on here and reddit's Moto 360 section. Almost everyone is claiming positive battery life, I've seen one post that was less than a day and that's because it was their first day using it so they were constantly messing with it. I'm at 18 hours and 28% left, I even used it for some navigation, a lot of email/FB/SMS checks, just messing with it, etc.
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I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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Nobody can easily read your text message from your watch no matter how close they are sitting next to you. For starters normal human posture is going to make the watch appear upside-down to anyone next to you. On the off-chance you have your wrist angled in such a manner that the screen is oriented upright, they'd still have to be gawking at your wrist to read anything from it, something that I'm sure you would notice and would be very awkward for them to pull off. Finally, at least on the G watch, the text message is only displayed when you tap the message. All anyone would actually see is a notification from the senders name, not the message itself. There are plenty of events that dont require you to look at your phone to acknowledge. Reminders, timers, alerts, etc. Half the emails and SMS I get do not require a response so I just dismiss/delete them from the watch face.
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I knew these battery life reviews were trash before the watch was even released. I could just tell from the reviewers attitude that they either held some sort of bias against the device, or they were just typical review clowns who didnt really use it at all. Whether they got their hands on one a week in advance or a day in advance, I think it's obvious they only tested it for about 2 hours, saw battery life was down to 80% with screen on full brightness messing with it nonstop, and then decided they could just average out the usage for the remainder of the day so they could get on to the next review. I mean honestly, you think a reviewer who has to write 10 articles by the end of the week actually sat there and played with this watch nonstop the whole time? Hell no, they just rushed through it.
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Uhh, where are the many people? I'm on here and reddit's Moto 360 section. Almost everyone is claiming positive battery life, I've seen one post that was less than a day and that's because it was their first day using it so they were constantly messing with it. I'm at 18 hours and 28% left, I even used it for some navigation, a lot of email/FB/SMS checks, just messing with it, etc.
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Balderdash. In this very forum, probably 2/3 of posts are saying 12-14 hours tops, and probably a full 1/3 are saying they can't even manage that long. Very, very few are saying longer than 18-20 hours.
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Balderdash. In this very forum, probably 2/3 of posts are saying 12-14 hours tops, and probably a full 1/3 are saying they can't even manage that long. Very, very few are saying longer than 18-20 hours.
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Maybe I'm doing it wrong, lol. I'm not as active in this subforum as Reddit, so I'm going off what I see over there and the few that I've seen here. I'm at 4 hours and 87% right now, so I don't know unless these people are using always on screens.
Looking at picking up a smart watch, like the round look. So it's either this or the lg r. Only hesitation is the "old" hardware. Do you guys think the old chip can hold up to future updates? Also lg has discontinued the lg r so worried about lack of upgrades there too?
Thanks
I still think we have another year of updates. But if you are worried and willing to pay full price for the device like us early adopters, I'd wait for the second generation 360.
Just got the 5.1.1 update so that is a good thing. The watch is really nice, got mine in April when it dropped to $150 on sale. I think now you can get it for close to $100-$125 on sale. This will be about a third of a cost of the second generation. Will the second generation be better? More than likely, will it be work a couple hundred more? That is the question you will have to answer. The only thing I would like that this watch does not have is stand alone GPS so I could go on a run without my phone and be able to till have Runkeeper track my GPS. The other would be a small speaker that you could use for phone calls.
Bought mine yesterday and returning it today. To heavy, I did have the metal band. Running 5.1.1 and it crashed/rebooted serval times. Did 3 factory resets. Battery would drain from 100 to about mid 80 in about an hour.
Loved the look of the all silver with metal band.
I'll just wait for the next generation in hopes that it will be lighter and better battery life. Really hoping it can be used without having to have my phone but I'm doubting Android wear will be at that point when the 360 2 is released.
So I'm holding out for the second generation.
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Bought mine yesterday and returning it today. To heavy, I did have the metal band. Running 5.1.1 and it crashed/rebooted serval times. Did 3 factory resets. Battery would drain from 100 to about mid 80 in about an hour.
Loved the look of the all silver with metal band.
I'll just wait for the next generation in hopes that it will be lighter and better battery life. Really hoping it can be used without having to have my phone but I'm doubting Android wear will be at that point when the 360 2 is released.
So I'm holding out for the second generation.
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everytime you reset the watch, it will eat 30-40% in the first couple hours as its doing all the SYNC-ing (thats normal)
since you have had it less than a day, and reset it 3 times, its obvious that you havent had a chance to really use it or let it settle
u should set it up, wait a few hours and fully charge it... and you will see how it will consume 4-6% an hour on a stock watchface and about 5-7% per hr on a fancy watchmaker face
but hey, if you really cant wait and wanna get rid of it, u should sell it to the OP
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everytime you reset the watch, it will eat 30-40% in the first couple hours as its doing all the SYNC-ing (thats normal)
since you have had it less than a day, and reset it 3 times, its obvious that you havent had a chance to really use it or let it settle
u should set it up, wait a few hours and fully charge it... and you will see how it will consume 4-6% an hour on a stock watchface and about 5-7% per hr on a fancy watchmaker face
but hey, if you really cant wait and wanna get rid of it, u should sell it to the OP
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I am aware that resetting the device will take a toll on the battery percentage as well as syncing. But the watch should not have rebooted on its own 4 times as to why I kept resetting it. I believe the unit that i required to be defective.
I returned the device for a full refund.
The device was eye candy for sure and I'm looking forward to getting the moto 360 2 when it comes out. Just hoping its lighter with better internals and no flat tire.
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jcarlm said:
I am aware that resetting the device will take a toll on the battery percentage as well as syncing. But the watch should not have rebooted on its own 4 times as to why I kept resetting it. I believe the unit that i required to be defective.
I returned the device for a full refund.
The device was eye candy for sure and I'm looking forward to getting the moto 360 2 when it comes out. Just hoping its lighter with better internals and no flat tire.
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I'm trying not to be negative and rude, but you sound like you might not be the person smartwatches were designed for - or you didn't do your homework and made an impulse purchase.
Again, trying not to be rude - but people who make purchases like you and make returns like you did are one of the reasons return, exchange, and warranty conditions are so strict these days.
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I'm trying not to be negative and rude, but you sound like you might not be the person smartwatches were designed for - or you didn't do your homework and made an impulse purchase.
Again, trying not to be rude - but people who make purchases like you and make returns like you did are one of the reasons return, exchange, and warranty conditions are so strict these days.
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Lol..... Own all nexus except nexus one. I have 3 chromecast, 2 nexus players, 4 nexus tablets. I'm a pretty big Android fan.. Root a lot of these devices and not afraid to mess with adb and fastboot. I research before I make any purchase and I know a little about Android.
As stated the watch was defective. Kept rebooting on its own. And at this time frame I might as well wait till the second generation.
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Allow me to clarify, I agree fully it was defective. I do not agree with you being surprised by the flat tire or the weight, specifically I don't agree with the watch being too heavy - all of my mid-to-high end mechanical watches are two or three times as heavy.
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Allow me to clarify, I agree fully it was defective. I do not agree with you being surprised by the flat tire or the weight, specifically I don't agree with the watch being too heavy - all of my mid-to-high end mechanical watches are two or three times as heavy.
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When holding the watch in the store is different than wearing it for hours, that is a personal preference as it was my preference. Flat tire I knew but figure with the right face it wouldn't bother me and started I hope they get rid of it on the next one. There are smart watches that are lighter.
Any ways just wanted to share my thoughts, that is all. Can't wait to see what the next generation will be as the rumors are stating lighter, smaller, better processor and I hope these are all true. And by smaller I hope they mean the thickness....
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Plus the next one should be coming soon and for me I have no problem waiting..
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I just bought mine on same and I love the thing heck it's lighter then my eco-drive watch and sent a text with voice.....I had the Samsung galaxy gear 2 neo and this thing is in a league of its own compared to the neo, also another thing a person actually saw it and asked how I liked Android wear
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Moving from an automatic metal band watch to the leather band 360 was like going from a dumbell to a paper sticker... I think overall design is fantastic, as long as it keeps working like it does with 5.1, I'm keeping mine for years to come!
So I've had my Moto 360 for about 4 months or so now and wanted to just say a bit about my experiences with it.
The battery life for me at first was a bit of a problem and it was touch and go if I could go a full day. I don't know if this is because I was fiddling with it so much or if later versions of android wear optimised the battery better, but now I could probably go a couple of days without charging.
I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants. I've since installed Android Mini Wear which is infinitely better. Unfortunately this doesn't replace the stock launcher but works side by side to it, so you can sometimes end up swiping one way and launching Mini Wear and then swiping the other way and getting the stock launcher, then you have to close both to get back to the main watch screen, bit of a pain. But the devs for Mini Wear say they are working on a way you'll be able to press a small button that shows up on the watch face to launch the full Mini Wear app draw (they currently have this feature but it launches a cut down version of Mini Wear).
A few things I'd love to be able to do with android wear is be able to adjust the timeout screen duration, sometimes it flicks off before I can do what I need to. Also being able to adjust vibrate duration wouldnt go a miss either.
Lastly I've started getting a pain in my wrist, I'm hoping this is unrelated to my watch but I'd be interested to know if any other users get it? Maybe the heart rate monitor constantly reading my pulse could be causing this? Shame you can't stop this from happening as well.
To adjust screen timeout duration try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phonephreak.extendedlight
And I use my watch now for 2 Month and don't have any pain in the wrist
I see some people wear a watch very tight, I myself a personal preference always wear it abit loose like jewelry or a bracelet, I've worn Swatch's for years so maybe I'm just use to it. Never pain.
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I've been wearing it since the week it came out. No pains in my wrist from it. I wore it tight with the leather band, and just tight enough that I can't fit my pinky with the metal band. My back is cracked and the plastic pieces that adapt the metal band in are broken and missing pieces, but the screen is pristine after a year, the battery still lasts a whole day, and it's never felt sluggish to me. I don't use a launcher - I don't see the need for one. I pretty much don't use apps - unless it's a card, the face switcher or stopwatch/timer I don't use it.
I love my 360. The 360 V2 is a slight incremental upgrade really offering nothing over the 360 except a much better placement of the crown and the band lugs. I won't be giving up my original 360 for a while.
Though I know my next watch WILL be a Moto watch, because nobody else does wireless charging and I refuse to give it up.
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I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants.
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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
Takiyon said:
just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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I killed google fit, turned off the gestures and ambient mode and I can squeeze out 48hrs between charges.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
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Hah, glad it made a difference! Genuinely surprised how much impact Google Fit has, makes an amazing device seem like junk when it's running
Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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I also have this doubt.
I'll be honest, I got the first gen 360 a few weeks ago because of a credit from Sprint and really wish I would've just put a few more dollars with it and got the Huawei watch.
For $99 you can't really go wrong. Yeah the processor might be a bit long in the tooth, but I don't really have any issues with mine. Plus the 2nd Gen costs loads more and doesn't really add any new functionality apart from looks.
I just find having mine really convenient, with my job I can't be looking at my phone all the time, so its perfect for me. I also find the ability to control music on my phone with my watch very handy when commuting. I'm now about to purchase a set of bluetooth headphones so I can listen to music stored on my watch. I'm in the minority who actually use Google Fit (I charge my phone every night but usually have around 40%-50% of battery left). Its just had strength training incorporated into it, so it can count how many sit ups, press ups or squats your doing, which is useful.
Even better now with the 6.0.1 update! Great value.