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WIMM One vs I'm Watch

Hey everyone, I'm looking to buy a casual watch. (something less than 500 bucks) I'm really interested in both the WIMM One and I'm Watch. I have looked at the specs and reviews, but I'd like some opinions. both look like they have a lot of potential. I do like the I'm Watch's curved screen. but the WIMM One looks like its got a bit more tech on it. What do you think? I want the most bang for my buck

Personally, I'm looking at the WIMM. Both from a cost perspective and from a battery life one.
The I'm Watch can do speakerphone, which the WIMM can't, but, really, I don't see myself using a speakerphone on a watch very often.
The dual-mode screen on the WIMM is a huge plus, in my book, as is the open-ness of the developer platform (something that I haven't seen much of with the I'm Watch).
Apps / Dev Support will make or break these devices.

I think I like the WIMM too. I have to ask, do you feel its worth getting the developer preview? perhaps I should tough it out and wait for a consumer release?

Well, I finally broke down and ordered a dev preview. It should be here in the next week or so.
After I get it, I'll let you know.

Awesome, Thanks!

Checked on my order status...
I should get it Wednesday or Thursday.
Early Christmas for me!

I've had the WIMM for a little less than a day now, and so far, the experience has been pretty good.
The only complaint I have is that Bluetooth does not want to reconnect to my phone if I let it get out of range. I have to un-pair, then re-pair the two.
Other than that, everything works wonderfully.
The display is amazing. Full color mode looks great, and the B&W LCD is amazingly crisp.
I haven't had it long enough to comment on the battery life, but so far today, after taking it off the charger six hours ago, I'm at 60%(ish) battery. Granted, it has seen only light usage, but, honestly, as a watch, I'm impressed.
I'll try to answer any questions, but so far I can definitely recommend getting one.

I got my WIMM in yesterday, and let it charge for the suggested three hours first. It's been on my wrist for the past eight hours and I'm still at 90%.
I've gotten really good at the swipe controls now; it's second nature.
My young daughter keeps playing the tilt ball puzzle game I downloaded from the WIMM beta forum.
I keep using the News reader app from the same place. That one alone, even though it's using sync'd data and isn't pulling realtime, is going to keep me happy with the watch because it's great for passing time in bed, while waiting, etc. It works surprisingly well on the small screen.
I have it set to sync my Google Calendars every few hours. Fantastic, having my appointments right there. (One included watchface even shows the next item.)
Having weather and time on my wrist for my favorite work and pleasure locations around the world is handy.
I downloaded a Christmas watchface with falling snow, which is fun to show off.
Just now, my wife asked for a wakeup in a half hour, so I pulled up the alarm app and a few seconds later I had one set to remind me. So easy.
The only problem I'm having is getting ADB to recognize the darned thing. Once I get past that common new-Android-device problem, I'm going to be creating some apps myself for it. First, probably a family picture viewer.
By itself, the WIMM looks bulky. On my wrist, with the way they sloped the wrist band carrier, it looks fine. Love the magnetic charging cradle, btw.
Now I wish I'd bought a couple for Christmas presents to my stepsons who love gizmos.

Heading towards 24 hours now, and still at 50%.
However, I am not using the Bluetooth. Just a WiFi auto sync every 3 hours.
I really like that whenever the watch goes into standby mode after a few seconds, the screen turns into a transflective B&W LCD image that is updated once a minute. Saves battery and yet the watchface is always visible unless it's dark... and then just a slight tap brings up the backlight and full color.

kdarling said:
The only problem I'm having is getting ADB to recognize the darned thing.
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@kdarling, let us know if we can help you w/ your ADB connection, either in our forums or [email protected].
-Ted Ladd
WIMM Labs
P.S. Sorry to intrude on the discussion.

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@kdarling, let us know if we can help you w/ your ADB connection, either in our forums or [email protected].
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Thanks Ted. I'm constantly adding on more Android devices for development, so I'm used to having a bit of trouble now and again. I thought at first it was because I only have the R3 usb drivers from Google. I also inserted a line in the usb inf file with the WIMM ID.
After reading comments by others, I finally found that I just had to hold the module down tight in the dock paddle while my laptop was talking to it. I've cleaned the contacts, but it just seems that they don't make good connections by themselves all the time. Overall, though, that's a relatively minor annoyance.

Hi kdarling, I wonder if you could help me by answering a couple of questions about the WIMM one as although there are a few reviews online I cant seem to find all the answers I was after
1) I assume this doesnt currently have GPS? It doesnt seem to mention it in any of the reviews so I assume not, and if so then thats a shame since there is real potential here for this to be the ideal "athlete" device which could log your training routes/speed etc especially in cases where you might not want to take your phone with you
2) How well does the Transflective screen work? Ive seen in reviews that it is updated every minuite but is that adjustable in the app? Again the reason I am asking is for sports being outside in the sun a "normal" LCD screen is unusable, but a transflective screen would be perfect for displaying stats like speed etc but only if it were updating more often then every minuite
3) how "easy" is it to develop apps for this? Again as mentioned I can see a real sporting potential for this device if you were able to launch apps that were specific for the sport you were doing (i.e. one for running, rowing, cyling etc) that displayed the data you wanted
If you could help with my questions would be great, have been looking/waiting for a dvice like this for a while really, just as shame that theres no GPS as thats an essential requirement really..

I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering...
1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.
2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.
3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.
I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.

carnagecjb said:
I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering...
1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.
2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.
3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.
I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.
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AH thats brilliant thanks!Very interesting to hear that it does contain GPS then, even if it is disabled, since that suggests in future it may be able to activate it for those times when you would need it, and then disable it when you need battery life!
Will keep a close eye on this I think...

jerrygooch said:
Awesome, Thanks!
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+ 10000000 Thanks

Sweet, so I should probably order soon then eh?

Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.

mastermikeywwt said:
Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.
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As long as it has a 40 hour or so battery life it's not much differernt than using a manual wristwatch.
I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.

@carnagecjb Great reply. I couldn't have said it better myself.
@stelph By your use of the word "brilliant", I surmise that you live outside of the U.S. Good and bad news. Bad: We don't ship the WIMM One outside of the US yet, since we're still waiting for CE certification.
Good news: We just started a contest where I will send you a free unit - anywhere in the world - once you have created and posted a good app to our forums. See the Announcements within dev.wimm.com
Ted Ladd
WIMM Labs

Daemos said:
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I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.
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Many of us at WIMM Labs have created our own straps. Because the module pops out of the strap, you can place it into whatever attachment you like. I use a wide leather strap (pict attached). Other says that its ugly, but Beauty is in the eye...
Ted Ladd
WIMM Labs

Poll! How do you feel now?

After a couple days, what are your feels?

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After a couple days, what are your feels?
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I like it, my issues are not with the hardware, although I won't lie and say I don't wish for more battery life. My issues are with how beta android wear feels. Hopefully google will give it some TLC, but google seems like a company that puts a lot of effort into something, releases it then forgets it.
Anyhoo, especially after seeing the atrocity that is the apple watch I'm going to keep my 360 and of course eventually grab a Note 4. It's kind of a gimmick right now, but at least it's a nice looking gimmick and I'll give google the benefit of the doubt.

austontatious said:
After a couple days, what are your feels?
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I have no problems with the speed of it - haven't noticed any stuttering or anything that people have mentioned. However, the battery is complete crap. I tried to use it today when I played 18 holes of golf w/ the Swing by Swing app (which actually works _very_ well w/ the watch, showing distance and letting you input your scores on the watch). The watch went from 95% to 0% on hole 12, about 3 hours in (slow play!). I only turned the watch on a few times a hole and didn't get any messages or anything in the meanwhile. The watch has also gone from 100% to 5% when used as a sleep tracker for 5 1/2 hours.

It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.

Dusty Rhodes said:
It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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Yep, we all have to realize we are kind of alpha testing here. The Moto 360 version 2 will probably be decent, and version 3 will be awesome.

And maybe by the next version Motorola find a way to keep the small bezel and have a fully round screen.

I agree, it's OK. I sold my Gear 2 to get this because I didn't like the square/plastic combo, and thought I didn't like the OS, but frankly the way the interface worked was much better than Android Wear. It had a great looking display and got 3-4 days of battery life!
But it's a watch, so looks mean a lot... I may have to return this bad boy and wait for the LG R, or the Moto 362, lol...
-My only hope is that since this is Android there will be some decent development happening, but after reading some posts I'm not so sure...

I'm in the UK so still waiting for it to be released here. Blessing in disguise for me as I'm not one to be an early adopter so by the time it is released, I'll have the wealth of knowledge from US user comments/reviews before I pull the trigger on it.

I think the device is doing quite well for a first release. The battery on ambient mode lasts all the way until I get home from work and will last a workout as well counting all my steps and monitoring my heart rate several times. I also think overall the watch looks pretty executive. Has a professional look and feel to it. Can't help but think all the square smart watches are too "kid-like".
As previously mentioned, once android wear adds features and apps start catching up I think there is really great potential for the device.

I love it. Does what I need it to do, which is notify me and let me respond to texts and certain apps. I can use it for navigation and some Google questions. I take it off the charger around 6am and by the time i charge it at night (around 10pm) it still has 30-40%. I am a light user... meaning, I dont need (and turned off) Google Now (watch telling me info w/out asking). I don't care for step count or heart rate cuz I run at night anyway. I dont care to add games or browsing apps on it. That is what my phone is for. What I use it for may not be worth $250, but its the best looking (IMO) and there are not much AW options out right now.
Just glad I don't have to constantly check my phone for any important notifications from work or family.
The only thing i wish it had was a speaker phone.

I'm on my 4th day and really like it but I'll be honest I wished Samsung had a round watch and running Android Wear all because I plan to get the Note 4.
Besides that my battery seemed to improve with every charge. Only thing I wish was to be able to turn off vibration and still see notifications when it comes. So far if I scroll top to bottom it will turn off vibration and notifications. Unless I'm doing it wrong.
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After the 1st day of having it I thought I would sell it because I didn't think the watch did much and I thought I'd be judged by friends and coworkers for buying a smart watch (half kidding) but android wear has grown on me and everyone who's seen it loves it.

My impressions after a few days

No photos, apologies- my post count is not high enough.
Out of Box:
Usually I wouldn't mention this as anyone can watch an unboxing video online. But using the watch out of the box was quite a bad experience that others seem to be having as well.
Out of the Box the watch has a bit of a charge but will die almost immediately. The problem with this is that charging the watch is a difficult experience. Using the included charger, I was not able to charge the watch faster then it was discharging. To be honest I'm not sure what happened that caused the watch to eventually work but after a half hour of fumbling, the watch updated to something that was not the latest build (I only know because the charging screen was updated) and started charging.
One of the worst setups I've ever had to deal with. Luckily I only have to deal with it once.
On the wrist:
I'm not a watch wearer. I can't stand wearing any kind of jewelry. The watch itself feels very nice (for a watch) and very light to wear. It's not making my wrist sweaty and the feel is good. As a tiny wristed man, I feel the 360 has a good sized face.
No complaints.
Battery Life:
My watch started with the older KKW22 build. I was getting around 5% battery use per hour with moderate use. After updating to KGW42N I get 2-3% battery use per hour. I get ~50 emails a day with a handful of texts and calls. Always on mode is off.
Much bettery battery life then I was expecting. Outlasts my Nexus 5 easily.
TI OMAP SoC:
The Moto360 uses the Droid X's CPU. While disappointing that the watch has such old tech in it, I definitely don't feel any sluggishness. That's not to say the animations aren't occasionally choppy- they are. But with no other Android Wear watch to compare it to I can't say if this is the CPU's fault. What I can say is not the CPU's fault is the speed in which programs open, this seems to be tied to the bluetooth connection quality.
I would prefer new tech but the watch does not feel slow.
Voice Commands (OK Google):
It's passible. Not really any different then my phone and probably because it's using my phone to process the commands. It hasn't been an annoyance going off accidentally.
No complaints.
The display:
I don't like the bezel that cuts the bottom of the circle, but that's not what this section is about. The 205ppi screen is not amazing. I can see the pixels but it's not a showstopper or a distraction. The job is done, text is readable and nothing more. I live in Sunny California, and viewing the screen in daylight is possible but you still want to put your hand over the watch. The light sensor works well enough to change lighting conditions but will occasionally be a bit slow- comparable to any android phone out there.
Not bad, not good. Wish the direct sunlight viewing was better.
Android Wear:
I wish I could turn Google Now voice command off. I wish I could do a lot of things actually. Android Wear is clearly still in early development and it shows. The backgrounds for cards do not have an appropriate resolution and look terrible on a 205ppi screen. Text will overlap other text in some areas, spacing is off, this is a UI nightmare in places. The ethereal feel of all the components as a whole is rough. This is not a refined product. It's functional and that's it.
It's rough and I would not recommend it to the masses.
Moto Specific Software:
I wish I could turn off the pedometer. I wish I could stop the watch from taking my pulse every 5 minutes. The heart monitor also says that I reach my heart activity goal after a few hours of sitting. That said I do like the Moto heart rate app over the stock fit app.
The gesture to turn on the screen works very well. The update to KGW42N seems to have made it a bit more sensitive. There are many times where the watch will turn on when I wasn't trying to get in on but very very few times will it not turn on when I want it to.
It's nice but the mandatory health monitoring is a negative and not very accutrate.
Overall impressions:
It's a very nice watch. Android Wear as a whole has some issues but the Moto360 showcases it very well. I do wish it used an OLED screen so I could always have it on.
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Very nice impressions,thanks for that. You can send me your pictures via pm,and I'll put it here

I agree with your "Out of Box" impression. I'm pretty sure that it's attempting to download and install the update, which is taking more power than the charger is giving it. Since this wasn't likely a scenario that existed during testing, I'm sure it slipped through, but this is definitely something that they need to fix. Maybe they should check for battery level BEFORE they check for updates.
I'm not sure I agree with your "OK Google" section. Well, I don't disagree, but in my experience it's so hit-and-miss that it ever even recognizes the phrase that I've gotten much more used to just tapping the screen. IF it hears the "OK Google," it seems to work fine, but it seems much happier ignoring me. (...and yes, I know it's not supposed to work when dimmed... I'm only talking about when it's not.)
Once I turned off the "Fit" card, I never saw any health-monitoring functions again, unless I wanted to. Have you turned that off? (Just left-swipe the "Steps" card, until you get to settings.)
I also hoped for an OLED screen, hoping for something that worked much more like the Moto-X's active display. This one seems less reactive, and honestly, while it looks nice, especially in bright-ish light, the LCD isn't helping their battery situation, which they really should have seen coming. Motorola has been making some solid phone hardware lately, even though I still wouldn't trade my Nexus 5 in for anything they make. (Wireless charging, Moto... you know... that thing that STILL sets your watch apart? How about we look at putting that in your phones, hmm?)
I don't know. I love my Moto 360. I just kind of expected more.

Thanks,
The rounds of reviews I have seen have tempered my "must-have-now" to I really want the next generation of android wear watches when we get 20 nm chips and the companies learn a few lessons on this generation.

Same boat here. It's passable. The nicest smart WATCH around but may not be the nicest SMART watch around if you get my gist. Out of box same. Horrible experience. I am a really really techie guy and it took multiple tries and multiple charging attempts to get it to sync for the first time and it forced me to charge to 100% before it would update. Ah well. With zero instructions moto must have assumed only nerds would be buying this thing.
I kind of want to return it but at the same time I really like the idea of it. The notifications are cool and I love replying to texts without having to touch my phone.

What am I supposed to do with this?

For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...

djx24 said:
For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.

Droid9 said:
It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.

djx24 said:
yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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Well first of all the hardware is not just OK its by far the best on the market period. Apple's is SQUARE and looks terrible. Only round watches are cool, dumb or smart, so Apple missed the boat big time. Also its not Moto that missed the boat, they didn't really design any of the software, its Google/Android that did. And that will change. But my opinion is who cares? I own the watch and I have to admit its a useless item I never use for anything, not even telling the time. Apple will not succeeded either. It's just not a needed item... kind of like 3D TVs. But its cool to have for now.
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I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.

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I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??

Success100 said:
I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?

I tell people this, is it a have to have Necessity? Absolutely not! But I do find it useful.
I always tell people one particular story which to me, highlights the usefulness of this device.
The second day of owning this watch, my phone was upstairs charging, because it accidentally didn't plugged in correctly the night before. I was downstairs doing my end of the month Quickbooks. All of the sudden I hear my phone go off upstairs telling me that I had a new text message. My first thought is "ah crap, I wonder what that message was" .. but then ... Bzzzzzz .. my watched buzzed on my wrist.
I looked at my wrist and I saw I had a text from a girl I know who works at the local grocery store. She said "We have 3 different types of lettuces for 98 cents."
So then I swiped over and said (with my voice) "Thanks for the heads". BOOM! Done. I was like THAT is so sweet!
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I also love the Android wear aware app, that when you leave your phone at home or in a public place, once you get far enough away, your wrist goes nuts telling you you left your phone behind.
One day I was backing out of my driveway. I made it to the street when all of the sudden my wrist started buzzing with a red picture of a phone with a line through it on my watch, telling me I left it inside.

google play music controls
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you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
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I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful

xRogerxC said:
How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
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there was a guy in my area selling a batch of them for $130 a piece. they were probably stolen lol
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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i disagree. like I said sometimes it is much more convenient for instance when I'm working out to not have to whip out my phone to even SEE who it is and if its even worth responding. Or if I leave my phone downstairs by mistake its still nice to get the notification. Plus Like I said, the watch looks sweet so I never feel like I'm being some uber geek by wearing it even its just to get notifications. I can get notifications clear on the opposite side of the gym so I don't have that 10 foot issue. There are also other sms apps like coffee you can get where you don't have to talk to your wrist. that works very well.
At the end of the day if it doesn't work for you just sell it
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google play music controls
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you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
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Responding with voice on chat message from my daughter's is awesome when driving

Responding via voice can actually be more discreet than pulling out the phone. I've found that I can put the watch up near my mouth and talk quietly enough that the person sitting next to me can't hear me. I've responded to messages in movie theaters without anyone knowing, not something I could do with my phone.

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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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You've jumped in at the wrong point I think - I'll be honest the only reason I have one is because I'm a bit of a geek and wanted to be able to say to my grandkids "I was one of the first..." It'll be interesting to see how the Apple Watch pans out, right now it looks like it's just going to be a fashion accessory (hey isn't that what all Apples are though..) (he types into this macbook).
As for the voice thing, I use it all the time. I get some funny looks but most of the time (especially amongst 30+ year old people) I tend to get looks of amazement and often "did you really just talk to your watch?" type statements. My biggest gripe with it is that if my phone is within listening distance, it too starts to do what I've asked it, which is pretty annoying. Google had the foresight to "mute phone when android wear device is connected" but not to stop listening when I'm talking to my watch..?
Other than that, it's a complete gimmick, all be it a pretty one. I do get more use out of notifications on my wrist than I thought I would, and having something on my person that auto locks/unlocks my mac and phone is pretty sweet, but beyond that... Also, somewhat annoyingly, I have an app that's supposed to buzz if it disconnects from my phone/tablet. Fool be me. I lost my tablet on a train (totally my fault but still)
I've all but given up on the heartbeat sensor too, it really doesn't like sweat.

When the first mobiles out market, long time ago there was no people talking with a mobile on the street and most people feel that this was embarrassing... But today it's normal to call on streets... Same happens with moto 360 in near future say ok Google or tell something to the watch will be normal... We ar pioneers... It is cool to reply a menssage while driving, or make a call while you are driving without taking the phone... It is cool to receive notifications on moto... But if someone feel that moto is not cool much better to sell it than wear it and complain...

About the embrasing stuff my friends are already used to it and find it cool! It is a great convorsatiom starter and just resopning with voice when in class is amazing (phone's are forbidden in class) so why do you care to get straigers looking at you like wuth is he doing? You will never see them again so there is no problem for me.
And it is amazing to withness the growth of a new kind of technologie I love every update to see what they inproved

Maybe in the near future we can make calls (crossing fingers)

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...aker-inside-it-but-it-doesnt-do-anything-yet/

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...aker-inside-it-but-it-doesnt-do-anything-yet/
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day

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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.

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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.

AndroidPolice updated their article with Huaweis response. They essentially did everything but answer the main question although they did hint at adding things that might be useful in the future.

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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky

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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I've seen one person use it that I know and its really funny to watch. I can't imagine how much battery it would use and i personally wouldn't bother with it. There's a reason why the LTE/3G smart watches have a battery that's 2x bugger than the standard one

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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol

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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.

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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.

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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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I'll try to test it out sometime this week, if I forget send me a messgae. I'm a full-time college student so I tend to forget the little things like testing it out.
I'm obviously an Android person because Apple bothers me but I respect everyone's choice for mobile devices. Its interesting to see your take on it since you have owned both of them.

Now there are some smart watches can be used to make a phone call already.But I don't think it's a real need calling via a watch,considering the smart watch is much smaller than a phone,if it' s designed too big,there is not convenience and comfort anylonger.

While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...

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While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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Couldn't agree more!

It seems odd that people are vocally against the phone call option. The whole point of the watch is to not have to pull out their "phone" lol.
I actually returned my urbane after three days because the lack of phone support, something I didn't even think of when buying a smart watch but became a glaring omission during real life usage (cooking/toddler/car/etc).
Once the Apple watch released it was simply a matter of when, not if. I'm pretty stoked that we won't have to wait for 3rd gen hardware to get it.

If the manufacture can fix the battery issue or it will be hard to make a call for long time.

I use (mini dialer) for phone calls and (wear messenger) for texting on watch. Both are available on google play and work great.

I'm more excited to have the speaker for automated tasker randomness. I currently have a tasker profile where if I say to my watch, "Ok Google, Show me what you can do." My phone's speaker starts talking, "Okay, this is what i can do, I can tell you the time, show your notifications, reply to messages and hangup on your wife bla bla bla.." I would love to have that reply on my watch directly.
I also have another fun one where if someone is telling me a bogus story/lying I click an icon and "Why you always lyin" plays on my phone.
Think of the fun possibilities!

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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.

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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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Yeah I usually get 1-2 days of usage which is good enough for me. I am running the latest update that got pushed out without any issues. If seems to fix the Bluetooth bug and some other ones which is a good thing. The Huawei watch is underated especially when you look at the Moto 360 gen 2 which sucks.