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After a couple days, what are your feels?

austontatious said:
After a couple days, what are your feels?
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I like it, my issues are not with the hardware, although I won't lie and say I don't wish for more battery life. My issues are with how beta android wear feels. Hopefully google will give it some TLC, but google seems like a company that puts a lot of effort into something, releases it then forgets it.
Anyhoo, especially after seeing the atrocity that is the apple watch I'm going to keep my 360 and of course eventually grab a Note 4. It's kind of a gimmick right now, but at least it's a nice looking gimmick and I'll give google the benefit of the doubt.

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I have no problems with the speed of it - haven't noticed any stuttering or anything that people have mentioned. However, the battery is complete crap. I tried to use it today when I played 18 holes of golf w/ the Swing by Swing app (which actually works _very_ well w/ the watch, showing distance and letting you input your scores on the watch). The watch went from 95% to 0% on hole 12, about 3 hours in (slow play!). I only turned the watch on a few times a hole and didn't get any messages or anything in the meanwhile. The watch has also gone from 100% to 5% when used as a sleep tracker for 5 1/2 hours.

It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.

Dusty Rhodes said:
It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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Yep, we all have to realize we are kind of alpha testing here. The Moto 360 version 2 will probably be decent, and version 3 will be awesome.

And maybe by the next version Motorola find a way to keep the small bezel and have a fully round screen.

I agree, it's OK. I sold my Gear 2 to get this because I didn't like the square/plastic combo, and thought I didn't like the OS, but frankly the way the interface worked was much better than Android Wear. It had a great looking display and got 3-4 days of battery life!
But it's a watch, so looks mean a lot... I may have to return this bad boy and wait for the LG R, or the Moto 362, lol...
-My only hope is that since this is Android there will be some decent development happening, but after reading some posts I'm not so sure...

I'm in the UK so still waiting for it to be released here. Blessing in disguise for me as I'm not one to be an early adopter so by the time it is released, I'll have the wealth of knowledge from US user comments/reviews before I pull the trigger on it.

I think the device is doing quite well for a first release. The battery on ambient mode lasts all the way until I get home from work and will last a workout as well counting all my steps and monitoring my heart rate several times. I also think overall the watch looks pretty executive. Has a professional look and feel to it. Can't help but think all the square smart watches are too "kid-like".
As previously mentioned, once android wear adds features and apps start catching up I think there is really great potential for the device.

I love it. Does what I need it to do, which is notify me and let me respond to texts and certain apps. I can use it for navigation and some Google questions. I take it off the charger around 6am and by the time i charge it at night (around 10pm) it still has 30-40%. I am a light user... meaning, I dont need (and turned off) Google Now (watch telling me info w/out asking). I don't care for step count or heart rate cuz I run at night anyway. I dont care to add games or browsing apps on it. That is what my phone is for. What I use it for may not be worth $250, but its the best looking (IMO) and there are not much AW options out right now.
Just glad I don't have to constantly check my phone for any important notifications from work or family.
The only thing i wish it had was a speaker phone.

I'm on my 4th day and really like it but I'll be honest I wished Samsung had a round watch and running Android Wear all because I plan to get the Note 4.
Besides that my battery seemed to improve with every charge. Only thing I wish was to be able to turn off vibration and still see notifications when it comes. So far if I scroll top to bottom it will turn off vibration and notifications. Unless I'm doing it wrong.
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After the 1st day of having it I thought I would sell it because I didn't think the watch did much and I thought I'd be judged by friends and coworkers for buying a smart watch (half kidding) but android wear has grown on me and everyone who's seen it loves it.

Moto 360 2 Inbound?

So I noticed in this article about Motorola's upcoming announcement on the 28th the verge makes this comment:
It's about time for some new Motorola smartphones... The Moto 360 is also about due for a refresh, so it's possible that we'll see that as well. http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/16/8977091/motorola-event-july-28
But of course they disabled their comments so people can't say they're wrong or biased, and while they claim the 360 needs a refresh I'm wondering if people are thinking the same thing. I mean since it was released on Sep. 5, 2014 it's not even a year old yet!
Personally the watch does everything I want since the 5.1 upgrade, and I don't need GPS, so really the only reasons to upgrade would be if it was thinner, lighter, and no flat-tire screen. I think I would probably keep the first 360, unless the 360 2 was <$300 and thinner, lighter, and had an HD screen with no flat-tire
Would you upgrade?

Same feel as you. But a large battery or better battery life would be a nice upgrade.
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The 360 is ancient and outdated so I'm ready to switch. I'm just hoping the new one has larger battery, oled screen, better styling (proper lugs) and a better performance/power efficient processor. Either way I'm upgrading.

Love my moto but would upgrade if new version is water resistant.

i'd upgrade as well
the current iteration has laggy and sometimes unresponsive GUI (compared to the apple watch) and the battery life sucks (compared to the pebble)
i want the best of all worlds

Just because New gen device is coming out doesn't mean that the current gen will function magically less than what we've had on day one.
I don't care if they release every month or new moto square watch every other month.
my moto 36o Will function just as well as I got it on day one.
That being said I don't think I'll get the second gen moto 360.
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I will be rockin my first gen 360 as well,for 150.00 this watch does everything i need. Only way I would upgrade is if the new gen watch had expandable memory slot,or maybe a micro usb for better PC interface

Unless the new Moto 360/2 lasts at least 4-5 days on one charge I can't see a reason to upgrade.

There are only two things I can see that would make me look at the 360/2. It would be stand alone GPS so that when I run I don't have to take my phone with me and a speaker on the watch so it had sound, so if paired with with the phone it could handle a phone conversation.
Needless to say I highly doubt that both of those happen so I will be more than happy with my $140 purchase of this watch a few months ago.

Nocturnal86 said:
The 360 is ancient
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LOL ancient.

lifeisfun said:
Love my moto but would upgrade if new version is water resistant.
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The current version is IP67 good for 3ft deep for 30min, and people say they shower with it!
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...Only way I would upgrade is if the new gen watch had expandable memory slot, or maybe a micro usb for better PC interface
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kxhaz said:
...and a speaker on the watch so it had sound, so if paired with with the phone it could handle a phone conversation.
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Those would be great to have too!

v3ngence said:
The current version is IP67 good for 3ft deep for 30min, and people say they shower with it!
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Yeah, that doesn't cut it if you jump in the pool.

lifeisfun said:
Yeah, that doesn't cut it if you jump in the pool.
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I swim with my LG G Watch. I dont dunk it but waterproof is a must.
I cant see upgrading from my G Watch until these guys have a built in speaker for calls.

Happy with my Moto 360 at a $85 price point. (thank you CL) , once I got it home and updated it to the latest version it seems pretty solid. Battery drain is my only concern so a new model with much better battery life would be the only reason I would upgrade... and I will even wait then until I can pick up the Gen 2 on CL for $85...
Also, did you see that leak of the photo of the Gen 2? It still shows the "flat tire"!

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Happy with my Moto 360 at a $85 price point. (thank you CL) , once I got it home and updated it to the latest version it seems pretty solid. Battery drain is my only concern so a new model with much better battery life would be the only reason I would upgrade... and I will even wait then until I can pick up the Gen 2 on CL for $85...
Also, did you see that leak of the photo of the Gen 2? It still shows the "flat tire"!
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What is ''CL''

Craigslist....
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The ugly flat tire is back!!!!
I'll only upgrade if the new Moto 360 has an OLED display, larger battery, faster processor, speakers for voice calls and if they fix their flat tire design.

should I STILL get a 360 this late in the game?

I'm eventually going to make the plunge in getting a smartwatch, and always liked the 360, but with the 360 2 so close to being announced, is it even worth getting the 360 now?
I love modding and stretching the limits of a device. When the 360 came out, i wanted it, but couldn't afford it. Recently I saw someone running youtube videos on the 360 and it sold me. Then i noticed the huge price drop and it started really pushing me toward a purchase.
What are the current limits of the device? I know running youtube on a watch is considered impracticable by most people (small screen, batt life), but it's right up my alley. Can you remote a pc or phone with the 360? I'm always streaming youtube to listen to music in my car, screen off, and I never know what i want to listen to next. I love the freedom of being able to pull up any track that strikes me in the moment, without having to store thousands and thousands of mp3s on a device. If video running directly on the watch isnt very efficient, can the watch remote the phone to change youtube videos without interacting with the phone?
Also, if you were me, would you get the 360?
wait for the 360 2?
or is there another device out there that is even more capable of outside-of-the-box kind of applications??
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

Hi there!
I recommend reading this thread, it's about a similar topic and it should at least answer some of your questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/help/wait-model-buy-t3146347

Pyvesb said:
Hi there!
I recommend reading this thread, it's about a similar topic and it should at least answer some of your questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/help/wait-model-buy-t3146347
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I'll probably pull the trigger at this price point just to get in.. then resell once the 2 comes out..
any differences between the best buy, google store, and amazon versions of the watch?
I know sometimes phones will have different hardware specs with different vendors

also, the free 'youtube app' that allows you to watch youtube on the watch itself also claims to be able to google cast the video to another device, ie: chromecast tv. Is it also capable of sending the video to a phone? My theory is, I can pull up the app on the watch, say what i want to listen to with the voice search, and beam it to my phone which is still holstered and wired to my car stereo. Think that would work? Anyone with a moto360 want to try it out?

I was pretty much in the same boat but I made the plunge (arr, matey).
I never had much money to spare for a smartwatch but I knew one day I would get one. I finally bought one last week, not even second hand how I usually buy things, because the price was finally acceptable for me (and a 14-day free return policy at the store was a great way to test the device - I'll probably keep it). I wasn't even considering the potential successor of the Moto 360, two reasons:
1. It would be way too expensive. I'd have to wait another year after its release until the price would finally be right for me.
2. There isn't much to improve with Android Wear smartwatches, as my only disappointment is battery life (though I love how easily and quickly it charges wirelessly to make up for it).
I'd say if you're like me, you don't have much money for a smartwatch, then the Moto 360 is currently still an awesome device. Especially since it received this huge update very recently which enabled Wi-Fi. This device is much more capable than the limited number of apps in the Play Store would suggest. I'll see if I can make any useful apps myself :fingers-crossed:

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I was pretty much in the same boat but I made the plunge (arr, matey).
I never had much money to spare for a smartwatch but I knew one day I would get one. I finally bought one last week, not even second hand how I usually buy things, because the price was finally acceptable for me (and a 14-day free return policy at the store was a great way to test the device - I'll probably keep it). I wasn't even considering the potential successor of the Moto 360, two reasons:
1. It would be way too expensive. I'd have to wait another year after its release until the price would finally be right for me.
2. There isn't much to improve with Android Wear smartwatches, as my only disappointment is battery life (though I love how easily and quickly it charges wirelessly to make up for it).
I'd say if you're like me, you don't have much money for a smartwatch, then the Moto 360 is currently still an awesome device. Especially since it received this huge update very recently which enabled Wi-Fi. This device is much more capable than the limited number of apps in the Play Store would suggest. I'll see if I can make any useful apps myself :fingers-crossed:
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Agree, there is not much difference between all the available smartwatches besides design and hardware. The software is the same on all of them (almost).
I can't see how people can complain about battery life. It's not a phone or a computer for that matter. The screen should not be on all the time. I normally charge mine before bed, sleep with it and wake up with around 85-90% left and then around 50% left when day is over, 20-30% if ambient screen.
It's a watch and you should only use it to check the clock, notifications and weather (or other features) not play games and such on it. In the first few weeks, mine died after a day use too. The battery began to stabilize + you begin to see it as a watch + notification thing only. I barely look at it all day. Only read the message I get and then decide if I should answer on phone or not.
So the Moto 360 will be almost the same as the Moto 360 V2 besides some new design and maybe some new hardware features, like GPS.

Honestly I can't wait for V2 of the Moto360. Granted, price will be much higher than the current sale, and or permanent retail price of the first... But im excited about losing the "flat tire" look. I just bought my Moto360 about a week ago now, and don't get me wrong, I love everything about it and the flat tire doesn't really bother me at all. Aside from speed improvements, possibly better battery, sharper display, and over all improvement of a V2 ( all assuming those come to pass in the new one) the OG Moto360 is still amazing and does its job, and imo, does it well. I will be passing this one on to my wife when V2 hits the scene anyway so it will have a long life ahead of it.
At the price its set at right now, this is def a great smartwatch to own, especially for someone who has never owned a smartwatch before.
So (even tho I've obviously stated I have already) absolutely I would buy it. (again)?

I think it's still a nice smartwatch. I've owned the Pebble Steel, 360, Zenwatch, and G Watch R, and I've come back to the 360... out of all of them, it was my favourite. It also helped I scored an open-box 23mm SS one for $130 tax in, lol.

I have a pebble time and a motor 360 I also have the first pebble and I take most of the time the old pebble. First battery life is so good last me all week and also water proof. Which the time is too but the pebble feels more durable than the 360 and so on. Also a reminder when you wanna sell the 360 one day you only can sell it to someone with an android phone.
But the 360 is pretty good.
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I was waiting for the Moto 360 2 but after it wasn't announced with the new Moto X and G I finally got bored and decided to purchase one, especially as I'd seen it for a great price £120 ($180). First impressions are I love the watch and it looks really stylish, it actually does more than I thought it would, which is a bonus.
Plus when the Moto 360 2 does get announced I'll sell this on.

Maybe I should have waited another few weeks and I would have seen the Moto 360 2 starting to be teased. Oh well you live and learn, lol.

Zammo76 said:
Maybe I should have waited another few weeks and I would have seen the Moto 360 2 starting to be teased. Oh well you live and learn, lol.
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I waited all summer for the 360 v2 to come out. I waited through MWC, through Google and Motorola events that we thought might be a 360 v2 announcement, and even after all that we still have no release date. The newly "leaked" images of the new Moto 360 v2 are not terribly impressive.
Since Moto has given us ZERO real info on the new version, I decided to get a 360 this week (it's also pretty cheap on Amazon). Today is my first day with it and I like how it looks and functions, but I am disappointed in the vibration strength. I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and I can easily feel the vibration patterns on it. The 360 has a much weaker vibration motor and I am just going to have to get used to missing some notifications. That being said, the display is MUCH better on the 360 and it looks really good on the wrist.
The new 360 is not at all likely going to be worth the money they will ask for it. We also really have no idea when it will come out. Motorola really screwed up with their launch of the v2. By the time it comes out there will likely be other players out there, and the holiday season is just over 2 months away. I'll enjoy my 360 v1 until then and see what's available in December.

Still love my 360 v1. Looks great on the wrist, but since the infamous Apple Watch has been released I always get questions if its the Apple Watch. Replaced my grey leather band with a mesh metal band and its made the watch look even better. So I would still buy if you can snag a deal from Amazon, eBay etc...

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I waited all summer for the 360 v2 to come out. I waited through MWC, through Google and Motorola events that we thought might be a 360 v2 announcement, and even after all that we still have no release date. The newly "leaked" images of the new Moto 360 v2 are not terribly impressive.
Since Moto has given us ZERO real info on the new version, I decided to get a 360 this week (it's also pretty cheap on Amazon). Today is my first day with it and I like how it looks and functions, but I am disappointed in the vibration strength. I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and I can easily feel the vibration patterns on it. The 360 has a much weaker vibration motor and I am just going to have to get used to missing some notifications. That being said, the display is MUCH better on the 360 and it looks really good on the wrist.
The new 360 is not at all likely going to be worth the money they will ask for it. We also really have no idea when it will come out. Motorola really screwed up with their launch of the v2. By the time it comes out there will likely be other players out there, and the holiday season is just over 2 months away. I'll enjoy my 360 v1 until then and see what's available in December.
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I just got the 360 last week to try. I'm going to return it after a couple weeks unless things magically get better all the sudden. Coming from the lg g watch the battery on this 360 is terrible in comparison and ui lags more often then I'm used to in the g watch also. If price is a major concern then the og 360 is still good enough if the battery is good enough for your use. It isn't for mine. I don't want to disable everything to make it barely last a day.

The battery on mine was draining pretty fast the first few days of use. Not sure if it was a bedding in issue or it was just me fiddling with it every few minutes. It seems to have stabilized now and I can get through a day and its on around 15-20% when I stick it on charge at 11pm. I have my brightness on 1 and flick to wake up on.

I've just got one and love it. Didn't want to wait for the 360 2 or pay the higher price for it, as it would probably cost a bit more, maybe?
Battery life for me is good. Only had it a few days, but got me through a full day (08:00 - 22:30) with 3% left. That was with a bit of playing and for some of the time ambient mode turned on. I now have ambient mode turned off, flick to wake on and auto brightness on. It was at 59% when I put it on this morning at 08:00. It's now 13:38 and it's on 36%.

I waited for the v2 teasers and immediately went and purchased a v1 360. I am not seeing much in design or spec that make me want to pay more for the v2.
And both have the flat tire!
I already have an LG G Watch R, which I intend to continue using as my daily driver. The v1, will be for business and formal type affairs. It just looks very nice to me.
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And it looks like when you click the Moto Maker button for the 360 on Motorola's site it no longer works. Got in just under the wire!

http://moofi.woot.com/offers/motorola-moto-360-smart-watch-1 $150 for metal band

best buy still has it for $150 if you want it faster thank woot

after going through warranty service with motorola i would say dont ever buy anything from this company.

Moto 360 after several months of use, my findings

So I've had my Moto 360 for about 4 months or so now and wanted to just say a bit about my experiences with it.
The battery life for me at first was a bit of a problem and it was touch and go if I could go a full day. I don't know if this is because I was fiddling with it so much or if later versions of android wear optimised the battery better, but now I could probably go a couple of days without charging.
I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants. I've since installed Android Mini Wear which is infinitely better. Unfortunately this doesn't replace the stock launcher but works side by side to it, so you can sometimes end up swiping one way and launching Mini Wear and then swiping the other way and getting the stock launcher, then you have to close both to get back to the main watch screen, bit of a pain. But the devs for Mini Wear say they are working on a way you'll be able to press a small button that shows up on the watch face to launch the full Mini Wear app draw (they currently have this feature but it launches a cut down version of Mini Wear).
A few things I'd love to be able to do with android wear is be able to adjust the timeout screen duration, sometimes it flicks off before I can do what I need to. Also being able to adjust vibrate duration wouldnt go a miss either.
Lastly I've started getting a pain in my wrist, I'm hoping this is unrelated to my watch but I'd be interested to know if any other users get it? Maybe the heart rate monitor constantly reading my pulse could be causing this? Shame you can't stop this from happening as well.

To adjust screen timeout duration try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phonephreak.extendedlight
And I use my watch now for 2 Month and don't have any pain in the wrist

I see some people wear a watch very tight, I myself a personal preference always wear it abit loose like jewelry or a bracelet, I've worn Swatch's for years so maybe I'm just use to it. Never pain.
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I've been wearing it since the week it came out. No pains in my wrist from it. I wore it tight with the leather band, and just tight enough that I can't fit my pinky with the metal band. My back is cracked and the plastic pieces that adapt the metal band in are broken and missing pieces, but the screen is pristine after a year, the battery still lasts a whole day, and it's never felt sluggish to me. I don't use a launcher - I don't see the need for one. I pretty much don't use apps - unless it's a card, the face switcher or stopwatch/timer I don't use it.
I love my 360. The 360 V2 is a slight incremental upgrade really offering nothing over the 360 except a much better placement of the crown and the band lugs. I won't be giving up my original 360 for a while.
Though I know my next watch WILL be a Moto watch, because nobody else does wireless charging and I refuse to give it up.

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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah

MikusP said:
Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.

Takiyon said:
just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..

Takiyon said:
just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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I killed google fit, turned off the gestures and ambient mode and I can squeeze out 48hrs between charges.

Takiyon said:
Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
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Hah, glad it made a difference! Genuinely surprised how much impact Google Fit has, makes an amazing device seem like junk when it's running

Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?

triguyrn said:
Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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I also have this doubt.

I'll be honest, I got the first gen 360 a few weeks ago because of a credit from Sprint and really wish I would've just put a few more dollars with it and got the Huawei watch.

For $99 you can't really go wrong. Yeah the processor might be a bit long in the tooth, but I don't really have any issues with mine. Plus the 2nd Gen costs loads more and doesn't really add any new functionality apart from looks.
I just find having mine really convenient, with my job I can't be looking at my phone all the time, so its perfect for me. I also find the ability to control music on my phone with my watch very handy when commuting. I'm now about to purchase a set of bluetooth headphones so I can listen to music stored on my watch. I'm in the minority who actually use Google Fit (I charge my phone every night but usually have around 40%-50% of battery left). Its just had strength training incorporated into it, so it can count how many sit ups, press ups or squats your doing, which is useful.

Even better now with the 6.0.1 update! Great value.

Battery = Crap

Is anyone else having massive battery issues? My 360 dies from 100% in about an hour, and is red hot the entire time. It has become unusable as a result. Seems like this device has gotten a lot of bad rep on battery issues but no one has nailed it down. About to actually throw this thing away but before I do it I'm making one last post on here to see if anyone has ANYTHING I can do.

Did a factory reset, took three times to actually do the reset instead of just rebooting like it was doing. After everything synced up, battery was still draining. I don't really have much of anything installed, battery life is still utter crap and the watch is overheating. To the trash it goes!

theres something very very wrong there , sounds like a app is draining your watch to me, have a look at the wear app on your phone to see if theres anything a miss

ratcom said:
theres something very very wrong there , sounds like a app is draining your watch to me, have a look at the wear app on your phone to see if theres anything a miss
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Battery stats show no app information. Just says that my battery is going to die in 45 mins from 90%

i would bite the bullet and wipe my phone and watch ..... because its clearly doing something in there

What is the phone doing to cause this? Is it the ROM? I'm on Pure Nexus on the 6P.

Why don't you contact Motorola and ask them for a replacement?
I did when my watch got a crack in the backplate (caused by me doing press ups, whilst wearing it) and they arranged for it to be collected, repaired and re-delivered free of charge.

I was thinking about that but I got it over a year ago so I'm not sure how long the warranty is.

I'm having the same issues, though not as severe as yours. My watch gets about fourteen hours, much less than it used to. I wish there was a place for me to send it to have the battery replaced. I'd send it to Moto, but given their [poor] history of customer service, I'll pass.
It's a shame, really; I like this device, and was thinking of picking up a second one in silver, especially now that the 1st gen prices have dropped as much as they have, but I also don't want to throw good money after bad.

I might just trash this one and get the Asus watch...Moto support was bad from what I read too.

agentfazexx said:
I might just trash this one and get the Asus watch...Moto support was bad from what I read too.
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I have a colleague who sent her son's Moto watch in for warranty exchange, and then waited more than three months before they finally told her that it would be a while before the replacement came, and there are numerous stories out there like that. It's really a shame, because it's a nice watch. The ASUS watch is too expensive for my taste, I really don't want to spend that much on it.

The Asus one on Amazon is $150 new. The original Asus watch is $99. Cheaper than the Moto.

agentfazexx said:
The Asus one on Amazon is $150 new. The original Asus watch is $99. Cheaper than the Moto.
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My mistake, I was thinking about another Android Wear device that was around $300.
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PDADoc said:
My mistake, I was thinking about another Android Wear device that was around $300.
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That was the Huawei one probably.

agentfazexx said:
That was the Huawei one probably.
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Yep, that's the one!
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PDADoc said:
Yep, that's the one!
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Yeah, I kinda want that one but Asus is a solid brand... I dunno.

throw it away, mines been to Moto already for a replacement and a few months later the pixels on the screen are starting to die, bottom right corner is all messed up. Moto are no longer the company they were. Get another watch from a better maker (LG, Huawei)

IINexusII said:
throw it away, mines been to Moto already for a replacement and a few months later the pixels on the screen are starting to die, bottom right corner is all messed up. Moto are no longer the company they were. Get another watch from a better maker (LG, Huawei)
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Yes, I agree with you. Moto simply isn't anywhere near the same company since all the acquisitions, damn shame. I don't really want to spend $300+ for a Huawei or another watch. Guess I'll just use it until it dies completely and then go back to my Gear Live. I like Android Wear, but hate Tizen!
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My 360 used to last all day and still have 20% charge. Its now going for 2 hours and completely dead. Wiped numerous times. It started around last week.

larrycc said:
My 360 used to last all day and still have 20% charge. Its now going for 2 hours and completely dead. Wiped numerous times. It started around last week.
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Planned obsolescence. [emoji53]
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