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Hope you are all doing well. I am coming from Optimus 3D and I was moving to S3 until I saw this device. In my country it is only available used (Korean F180 versions ~300$). I have read lots of posts and reviews and I was confused due to heating issue. Firstly is this even a issue, if yes how to check if it exist in the mobile. The sellers here have Gs in factory reset condition and not allowing me to install any game or benchmark(kind of selling in as in condition) I do realize that the mobile was constantly changing brightness even when I was just scrolling and checking camera etc(unable to brighten...). Cut short what do I need to check in approx 1/2 an hour. Thanks for your time
When I first got the phone and was running stock, unrooted, I would get the "unable to brighten due to temperature" message pretty often, but it never caused any problems other than a minor annoyance. Since rooting & running custom ROMs I've always had the screen at maximum brightness, and while it does get warm after heavy use, I've never had any problems with it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2328478
Check this out. On the Korean phone it may be different, but I bet the same menus exist somewhere.
I'm guessing that since you live outside of America that you have the E975 model. The screen dimming and processor throttling is done to avoid overheating. You can disable it without any problems.Go to the dialer and enter 3845#*975# . It will take you to the hidden menu. Scroll all the way down to "Thermal Daemon Mitigation Off". It should be set to off by default. Switch it to on. This will stop the processor throttling and screen dimming.
thanks guys I bought it
If u set ur kernel tweaks on trickster mod then u will never get any over heating... Maybe a little warm but not overheat. When I first bought this phone I was experiencing bad overheating and that was every time I use the phone. Then I downloaded trickster mod and set the I/o scheduler and gov etc... And I never experienced overheating and my battery life went threw the roof!! And custom kernels help a lot as well.
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What are the main issues of the lg g3 (planning to buy one)..
Does it have the screen issue like the g2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
is there a fix for the overheating and shutdown issues?
how is performance in gaming?
is it possible to reduce the resolution to 1080p to save battery and gain performance (and maybe prevent overheating)?
yeahman45 said:
What are the main issues of the lg g3 (planning to buy one)..
Does it have the screen issue like the g2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
is there a fix for the overheating and shutdown issues?
how is performance in gaming?
is it possible to reduce the resolution to 1080p to save battery and gain performance (and maybe prevent overheating)?
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Read through The G3 threads you will know the answer to all of these.
You cant reduce resolution.
Gaming is decent
I have had no such overheating since 10H update and no shutdown issues ever.
AndroidInsanity said:
Read through The G3 threads you will know the answer to all of these.
You cant reduce resolution.
Gaming is decent
I have had no such overheating since 10H update and no shutdown issues ever.
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OK the. Do other users also have temperature and shutdown issue fixed with the lg update?
Never had shutdown or overheating no matter what firmware. It's abit laggy tho but way better with art etc.
I guess you guys are not heavy users? cuz I read a lot of users have overheating issues with message prompting them to decrease brightness as it is overtheating and may shutdown (what the heck? ... LG really lost it on that one... Do you really expect to get that kind of message on a flagship pricey phone??). LG seems to be making great phones but each time there's a deal breaker. (screen issues with LG G2 and now overheating/performance issues on the LG G3)... I hope they get it right with the G4.
Did antutu x benchmarks, 3 times in a row with 90% brightness without auto with an ambient temp of 30c. I actually can't remember if my score was lower last time (because of throttling), gonna check it when I receive my phone again.
No message about high temp etc tho.
ok you are probably not a heavy user.
yeahman45 said:
I guess you guys are not heavy users? cuz I read a lot of users have overheating issues with message prompting them to decrease brightness as it is overtheating and may shutdown (what the heck? ... LG really lost it on that one... Do you really expect to get that kind of message on a flagship pricey phone??). LG seems to be making great phones but each time there's a deal breaker. (screen issues with LG G2 and now overheating/performance issues on the LG G3)... I hope they get it right with the G4.
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I am a very heavy user. No issues. People need to understand a simple factory reset and installing the latest update helps. When i first got it i performed a factory reset and installed thr latest update manually so i never really had time to see if it had issues on previous firmware . although i did run a benchmark when i got it it got really hot. But i did the same after the update it just got a little warm nothing to worry about.
ok. I want to know if other users have these issues solved with the updates like you.
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ok. I want to know if other users have these issues solved with the updates like you.
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Zero issues, apart from the screen sharpening and abysmal battery life when the screen is on
abysmal battery life?
No one is experiencing this lg g2 issue on the G3 right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
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abysmal battery life?
No one is experiencing this lg g2 issue on the G3 right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
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No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
nice video showing that how lg g3 compares to the cat 6 version and the galaxy s5 prime
Sometimes the phone become hot specially when the phone is charging and I'm texting and browsing 'usually in a dark room so the brightness is 0%'
And yes my phone brightness decreased to 90% automatically and sometimes 80% due to overheating
Lg g2 was faster than g3 and you can see it when you use it for a long time
Overall. Go for it its awesome device
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
Please guys !
niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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1) I think I and J are kind of the same but others will know better, they are the latest firmware.
2) No but what you call heat and what others call heat might be different but it shouldn't get anything more than warm at most.
3) Yes but you can revert back easily to keep warranty. I used Stump Root.
4) Yes lots of things but I haven't tried any as I have very good battery. There are things you can do without rooting as well.
5) Yes that is way too much. Mine uses no more than 2% over 8 hours but I have a few of the Google things turned off.
6) Never done it but from what I've read others have had the same problem.
If you have an SD card in the phone remove it and see if the heat will stop.
It is a Saturday so give it some time for others to answer.
niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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1) My D855 is on 10H at the moment with no OTAs available at the moment. Most of the OTAs so far have just been small bug fixes and such (the change log for J is exactly the same as H). Its not worth trying to manually flash them yourself. Sometimes the update is available by the LG PC Suite before the OTA, so maybe give that a go.
2) The G3 warming up isnt uncommon. I can usually feel mine warming up around the power button in usage similar to yours. I wouldn't worry too much about the phone being hot after just booting from an update, the phone has probably been running the CPU flat out during the update and boot process to finish everything. The limited brightness is an automatic thing put in place by LG to prevent overheating. (If it was limited to 90%, then I would have thought it is not getting that hot otherwise the brightness would be limited even more)
3) Probably. I haven't rooted mine, but I believe there is a root counter/status thing in the hidden service menu that LG may look if ever your phone is sent back by which they may deny repairs or charge you for them out of warranty. (But if it is a genuine hardware defect, they may be lenient. I sent my HTC One back for repairs for the purple tint issue on the camera with the bootloader still unlocked, but they didn't say anything)
4) Not sure about that (as I haven't rooted).
5) That usage seems about the same drain I have when leaving the phone while it is on cellular data. My G3 has superb standby battery life while it is on WiFi.
6) I think that is a common occurrence with the G3, the phone is rebooting as the phone is getting too hot.
niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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That's really strange...
6) my phone barely heats up... And pass test without any problem...
Sent from from my LG-D855
Thanks a lot for the info guys !
When my phone reboots during antutu it is not even warm. I even tried doing the benchmark in the fridge and same thing happened. It just makes no sense.
Also 1 more question - Is there some kind of a list of apps that are safe to remove/dissable ?
Hi,
I'm planning to buy LG G3 (32 GB version). It's very cheap right now considering it's specs but I have some questions before buying it.
1- How is general performance and gaming on stock ROM (lollipop or kitkat)?
2- Does it overheat or force the screen brightness to be lowered?
3- How is battery life (screen-on time) with moderate to heavy usage?
4- How is development going? Does it have stable AOSP ROMs without major issues or camera problems?
5- Are there any problems or any thing that I need to know before buying?
I would really appreciate it if some one can help me. Thanks in advance
1- I don't game
2- Overheat yes but it never forced me to lower the brightness
3- It's not bad, I can last 2 day with it
4- LG G3 camera is bad in every custom rom (unless you install the moto cam, or another (I don't remember witch one))
5- Overheat is the biggest downside for this device, I can go to 75C+ easily
75 c with general usage?! Does it affect perfermance or cause lagging?
Navios92 said:
75 c with general usage?! Does it affect perfermance or cause lagging?
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The phone overheats but it isn't causing any performance or lag in my case. It is not getting up to 75. Also the gaming is very good. The battery gives me about 5+ hours of SoT.
Sreerag ag said:
The phone overheats but it isn't causing any performance or lag in my case. It is not getting up to 75. Also the gaming is very good. The battery gives me about 5+ hours of SoT.
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On stock or custom rom? And what is your brightness settings?
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Navios92 said:
On stock or custom rom? And what is your brightness settings?
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On stock I got about 4+. Using custom ROMs like cloudy and exodus gives me much more. My brightness is at 50% auto.
Navios92 said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy LG G3 (32 GB version). It's very cheap right now considering it's specs but I have some questions before buying it.
1- How is general performance and gaming on stock ROM (lollipop or kitkat)?
2- Does it overheat or force the screen brightness to be lowered?
3- How is battery life (screen-on time) with moderate to heavy usage?
4- How is development going? Does it have stable AOSP ROMs without major issues or camera problems?
5- Are there any problems or any thing that I need to know before buying?
I would really appreciate it if some one can help me. Thanks in advance
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1) According to my experience, stock rom is a bit laggy, but absolutely tolerable.
If you flash an AOSP rom, lags should completely disappear, you can find the difference in heavier games.
But I can't compare the old KitKat rom to Lollipop one, since I immediately upgraded my device.
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
3) It strongly depends by installed apps and mainly by the "damned" Google Play Services, which often cause a quicker battery drain.
During standby, the autonomy is excellent, during the utilization it's similar to the other devices, probably "a bit" longer.
4) The stock development is stopped to the February release (20H), but is also true that G3 was the first terminal to receive the Lollipop update.
On stock camera, 4K video recording is laggy, personally I prefer the excellent and smaller Full HD recording.
On AOSP roms (Resurrection Remix in my case) camera app is qualitatively comparable to the stock one... except for the audio quality in videos: volume become inexplicably lower and suffocated after some second of recording, it sounds me like a microphone which is turned off.
If you accept this issue (hope it will be solved) or you prefer to use a 3rd-party camera, I strongly suggest you to flash an AOSP rom, but be careful about rooting, if your intention is to immediately flash a custom rom, do not upgrade to Lollipop, or you'll have problems with "non-bumped" recoveries.
5) You have to know that G3 (according to many amateur crash videos) has a weak digitizer (so I suggest you to buy absolutely a proof cover like my Ringke Max).
Then... the already cited overheating, which would be a problem only for the laggy experience, no damage risks.
If you want to flash a custom rom, prevent to upgrade to Lollipop.
For the rest... you'll have a great device [emoji41]
I have found AOSP roms to be quite flakey, ive tried many of them and keep going back to stock - random reboots, crap battery etc.
Thermal throttling mod def helps with heat.
Simone98RC said:
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
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Honest question... do people actually use their devices at 100% or even 90? I currently have my G3 set to 67% and I never really change it. My Nexus 7 I keep at around the same unless I'm reading in bed and it's too bright, so I knock it down some. The only situation I could see using it at 100% would be in direct sunlight, but the glare makes this a bad idea in general.
Just curious I guess.
Simone98RC said:
1) According to my experience, stock rom is a bit laggy, but absolutely tolerable.
If you flash an AOSP rom, lags should completely disappear, you can find the difference in heavier games.
But I can't compare the old KitKat rom to Lollipop one, since I immediately upgraded my device.
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
3) It strongly depends by installed apps and mainly by the "damned" Google Play Services, which often cause a quicker battery drain.
During standby, the autonomy is excellent, during the utilization it's similar to the other devices, probably "a bit" longer.
4) The stock development is stopped to the February release (20H), but is also true that G3 was the first terminal to receive the Lollipop update.
On stock camera, 4K video recording is laggy, personally I prefer the excellent and smaller Full HD recording.
On AOSP roms (Resurrection Remix in my case) camera app is qualitatively comparable to the stock one... except for the audio quality in videos: volume become inexplicably lower and suffocated after some second of recording, it sounds me like a microphone which is turned off.
If you accept this issue (hope it will be solved) or you prefer to use a 3rd-party camera, I strongly suggest you to flash an AOSP rom, but be careful about rooting, if your intention is to immediately flash a custom rom, do not upgrade to Lollipop, or you'll have problems with "non-bumped" recoveries.
5) You have to know that G3 (according to many amateur crash videos) has a weak digitizer (so I suggest you to buy absolutely a proof cover like my Ringke Max).
Then... the already cited overheating, which would be a problem only for the laggy experience, no damage risks.
If you want to flash a custom rom, prevent to upgrade to Lollipop.
For the rest... you'll have a great device [emoji41]
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That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
Navios92 said:
That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
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1. Yes it does. I get 70C while using facebook and similar apps within 15mins of usage. Still not too much lagg even with high temperatures.
2. You will probably be able to achive root on lollipop but the problem is the aboot(bootloader) that comes on lollipop. It's not compatible with bump that needs to be applied to recovery and boot partitions so you would recive Secure Boot Error.
Although you could use benders autorec app on lollipop which flashes kitkats aboot and laf imgs along with TWRP.
3. While I can't compare the screen with any of these phones as I have not used them, personally I don't have issues with my contrast. I can see things well under suns reflection as well.
Navios92 said:
That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
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1) It may happens in every CPU stress condition, when device works at maximum clock (2.5 Ghz). Mostly in heavy games, but in other scenarios too, like continous switch between mobile data and Wi-Fi, or accidental screen on in pocket (which I encounter on my AOSP rom).
2) The Lollipop update enable the Secure Boot, which verify the signature of some critical partition of your device: if it find any inconsistency, the phone won't boot and send an alarming "blue-red" sequence of LED colours like a police light.
I've tried that on my device, I still get shivers!
Since you do the update, nor the downgrade to KitKat want to reverse the existence of Secure Boot, so you'll need to install only "bumped" recovery to prevent the issue.
It means that you have to manually flash TWRP recovery, since the standard "no-bumped" version will get your device in those terrible conditions.
3) I can't do a comparison since I'm not informed about these devices.
Personally for a long time I've disliked the "weak" colour intensity of G3, but after 6 months of experience I've understand that was the LCD of my old SGS3 to be abnormal, with a graceful but false contrast.
The real problem is not the contrast ratio, but the low brightness which you'll surely note in sunny conditions.
In the successor G4 the screen brightness is fixed by an increasing of almost 25%.
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1) It may happens in every CPU stress condition, when device works at maximum clock (2.5 Ghz). Mostly in heavy games, but in other scenarios too, like continous switch between mobile data and Wi-Fi, or accidental screen on in pocket (which I encounter on my AOSP rom).
2) The Lollipop update enable the Secure Boot, which verify the signature of some critical partition of your device: if it find any inconsistency, the phone won't boot and send an alarming "blue-red" sequence of LED colours like a police light.
I've tried that on my device, I still get shivers!
Since you do the update, nor the downgrade to KitKat want to reverse the existence of Secure Boot, so you'll need to install only "bumped" recovery to prevent the issue.
It means that you have to manually flash TWRP recovery, since the standard "no-bumped" version will get your device in those terrible conditions.
3) I can't do a comparison since I'm not informed about these devices.
Personally for a long time I've disliked the "weak" colour intensity of G3, but after 6 months of experience I've understand that was the LCD of my old SGS3 to be abnormal, with a graceful but false contrast.
The real problem is not the contrast ratio, but the low brightness which you'll surely note in sunny conditions.
In the successor G4 the screen brightness is fixed by an increasing of almost 25%.
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Screen quality is very important to me as I watch a lot of videos.
But heating problem is a turn off. I live in a hot country and had the same problem with Optimus 4X which was unbearable.
I might wait till G4 price goes down and buy it or get A5 and wait for a proper flagship next year.
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
Thanks, seems to help a bit, but it's right on the fine line between actually helping and just a placebo.
I mean, some really visually simple games (Smash Hit) shouldn't run with such low fps, especially not when considering the Nexus 5 ran it perfect.
What about the rest of the UI?
I suspect that some of the problems I'm having with SwiftKey are software related (might not be optimized for G4 yet?), since I'm noticing some other unrelated performance bugs in it; emailed that to them.
I got H815L myself and it's pretty good.
What's your Antutu score?
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
jamesd1085 said:
There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
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Jonathan-H said:
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Not missing anything. Is called lg g4.
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oh thanks bro.
most helpful reply of the week.
NuclearBastard said:
I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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jamesd1085 said:
Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Yeah, I pretty much know most of the basics of all the advanced tweaking, but since I have H815L the bootloader is locked, so rooting it is a bit pain in the ass.
Someday next week I'll just factory reset it and check again.
Thanks bud!
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
NuclearBastard said:
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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Root it and bump up lower clock speed on big/little cores with kernel audiutor...it will reduce lag and actually save battery as small processes cause it to jump around a lot on factory settings...short of doing this idk...
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu,
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It means his device is running cooler than yours. He mentioned some tweaks to keep heat down.
There is also the CTT mod (in development)but it requires root.
most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
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Actually i just checked 3 different reviews and the avg antutue score for the G4 is 49k. if you run antutu back to back 3-4 times it will drop to 44k. If it wont rise above 45k then it indicates a heating device with throttling.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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How is your battery life in general sot/run time ?
can you try playing your games in a low light environment. So your brightness will be much lower. Do you notice any difference ?
I've had the phone for a total of about 4 days now, SOT seems about 3-4 hours, better than my N5 so I'm happy so far.
Tried gaming with low light / cold environments, doesn't seem to change anything.
Not sure about the throttling, due to the fact that the device is actually pretty cold... not sensing any extreme heat (my N5 was way hotter).
After that factory reset I get about 48k on Antutu, and I actually tried two different "heavy" games (NOVA3 and Asphalt 8) and they run OK...
I genuinely have no idea what's the problem, so instead of rooting and tweaking stuff that seem to not have to be tweaked for others, I'll just wait till I get back home and compare the gaming performance with friends' devices.
If something goes wrong - warranty it is.
Man, I feel you! Been dealing with laggy UI and cursing my choice of purchase since day one. Anyways..
For games - have you disabled 'Game Optimzer' option from 'Battery & Power Saving'?
For laggy UI - Swiftkey is laggy as ****. So try Fleksy, it's a LOT smoother, I barely notice any lag (although it does hiccup once in a while...). As for general performance, you have to accept that some animations will be choppy - that's just how LG UI works, there is no work around. For me the phone was chugging a lot before I uninstalled Inbox by Gmail, after that the phone regained it's speed and it's pretty damn smooth now. It still stutters here and there but ...what to do. Also try delobating it and removing any unnecessary apps and services (you don't need to root for this).
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Dude i has the g4 H815L and it is works fine but maybe it becouse the root.
I has the device for few months with stock version of lg and my g4 works very good and when i play games like Goat Simulator he got hot if not very hot but if your device don't get hot becouse of games so for sure you won't get high preformance.
Plus my bettery works fine and my phone can work perfectly and smothly with smart watch and survive one day with out any problames.
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
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Every CPU (SoC) is unique. Remember, even two identical CPUs can deliver different benchmark results, thus have different real world performance. Unless there's a software issue you haven't found out about yet, it's also likely that you just got a bad one.
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Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Don't even hesitate. You paid for it hard earned money under the condition that it works as stated and advertised by LG. Now, as you told us, it does not. See my point?