Some questions before buying G3 - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm planning to buy LG G3 (32 GB version). It's very cheap right now considering it's specs but I have some questions before buying it.
1- How is general performance and gaming on stock ROM (lollipop or kitkat)?
2- Does it overheat or force the screen brightness to be lowered?
3- How is battery life (screen-on time) with moderate to heavy usage?
4- How is development going? Does it have stable AOSP ROMs without major issues or camera problems?
5- Are there any problems or any thing that I need to know before buying?
I would really appreciate it if some one can help me. Thanks in advance

1- I don't game
2- Overheat yes but it never forced me to lower the brightness
3- It's not bad, I can last 2 day with it
4- LG G3 camera is bad in every custom rom (unless you install the moto cam, or another (I don't remember witch one))
5- Overheat is the biggest downside for this device, I can go to 75C+ easily

75 c with general usage?! Does it affect perfermance or cause lagging?

Navios92 said:
75 c with general usage?! Does it affect perfermance or cause lagging?
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The phone overheats but it isn't causing any performance or lag in my case. It is not getting up to 75. Also the gaming is very good. The battery gives me about 5+ hours of SoT.

Sreerag ag said:
The phone overheats but it isn't causing any performance or lag in my case. It is not getting up to 75. Also the gaming is very good. The battery gives me about 5+ hours of SoT.
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On stock or custom rom? And what is your brightness settings?
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Navios92 said:
On stock or custom rom? And what is your brightness settings?
Sent from my SM-G313HU using XDA Free mobile app
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On stock I got about 4+. Using custom ROMs like cloudy and exodus gives me much more. My brightness is at 50% auto.

Navios92 said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy LG G3 (32 GB version). It's very cheap right now considering it's specs but I have some questions before buying it.
1- How is general performance and gaming on stock ROM (lollipop or kitkat)?
2- Does it overheat or force the screen brightness to be lowered?
3- How is battery life (screen-on time) with moderate to heavy usage?
4- How is development going? Does it have stable AOSP ROMs without major issues or camera problems?
5- Are there any problems or any thing that I need to know before buying?
I would really appreciate it if some one can help me. Thanks in advance
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1) According to my experience, stock rom is a bit laggy, but absolutely tolerable.
If you flash an AOSP rom, lags should completely disappear, you can find the difference in heavier games.
But I can't compare the old KitKat rom to Lollipop one, since I immediately upgraded my device.
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
3) It strongly depends by installed apps and mainly by the "damned" Google Play Services, which often cause a quicker battery drain.
During standby, the autonomy is excellent, during the utilization it's similar to the other devices, probably "a bit" longer.
4) The stock development is stopped to the February release (20H), but is also true that G3 was the first terminal to receive the Lollipop update.
On stock camera, 4K video recording is laggy, personally I prefer the excellent and smaller Full HD recording.
On AOSP roms (Resurrection Remix in my case) camera app is qualitatively comparable to the stock one... except for the audio quality in videos: volume become inexplicably lower and suffocated after some second of recording, it sounds me like a microphone which is turned off.
If you accept this issue (hope it will be solved) or you prefer to use a 3rd-party camera, I strongly suggest you to flash an AOSP rom, but be careful about rooting, if your intention is to immediately flash a custom rom, do not upgrade to Lollipop, or you'll have problems with "non-bumped" recoveries.
5) You have to know that G3 (according to many amateur crash videos) has a weak digitizer (so I suggest you to buy absolutely a proof cover like my Ringke Max).
Then... the already cited overheating, which would be a problem only for the laggy experience, no damage risks.
If you want to flash a custom rom, prevent to upgrade to Lollipop.
For the rest... you'll have a great device [emoji41]

I have found AOSP roms to be quite flakey, ive tried many of them and keep going back to stock - random reboots, crap battery etc.
Thermal throttling mod def helps with heat.

Simone98RC said:
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
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Honest question... do people actually use their devices at 100% or even 90? I currently have my G3 set to 67% and I never really change it. My Nexus 7 I keep at around the same unless I'm reading in bed and it's too bright, so I knock it down some. The only situation I could see using it at 100% would be in direct sunlight, but the glare makes this a bad idea in general.
Just curious I guess.

Simone98RC said:
1) According to my experience, stock rom is a bit laggy, but absolutely tolerable.
If you flash an AOSP rom, lags should completely disappear, you can find the difference in heavier games.
But I can't compare the old KitKat rom to Lollipop one, since I immediately upgraded my device.
2) Yes, one of the worst problems of this phone is the overheating.
If you reach high temperatures (70 °C and above), device become to be laggy, as CPU need to be cooled by a process called "throttling".
On stock rom the maximum brightness is automatically decreased to 90%, or to 80% in very hot conditions, in AOSP roms brighteness is untouched.
3) It strongly depends by installed apps and mainly by the "damned" Google Play Services, which often cause a quicker battery drain.
During standby, the autonomy is excellent, during the utilization it's similar to the other devices, probably "a bit" longer.
4) The stock development is stopped to the February release (20H), but is also true that G3 was the first terminal to receive the Lollipop update.
On stock camera, 4K video recording is laggy, personally I prefer the excellent and smaller Full HD recording.
On AOSP roms (Resurrection Remix in my case) camera app is qualitatively comparable to the stock one... except for the audio quality in videos: volume become inexplicably lower and suffocated after some second of recording, it sounds me like a microphone which is turned off.
If you accept this issue (hope it will be solved) or you prefer to use a 3rd-party camera, I strongly suggest you to flash an AOSP rom, but be careful about rooting, if your intention is to immediately flash a custom rom, do not upgrade to Lollipop, or you'll have problems with "non-bumped" recoveries.
5) You have to know that G3 (according to many amateur crash videos) has a weak digitizer (so I suggest you to buy absolutely a proof cover like my Ringke Max).
Then... the already cited overheating, which would be a problem only for the laggy experience, no damage risks.
If you want to flash a custom rom, prevent to upgrade to Lollipop.
For the rest... you'll have a great device [emoji41]
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That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?

Navios92 said:
That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
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1. Yes it does. I get 70C while using facebook and similar apps within 15mins of usage. Still not too much lagg even with high temperatures.
2. You will probably be able to achive root on lollipop but the problem is the aboot(bootloader) that comes on lollipop. It's not compatible with bump that needs to be applied to recovery and boot partitions so you would recive Secure Boot Error.
Although you could use benders autorec app on lollipop which flashes kitkats aboot and laf imgs along with TWRP.
3. While I can't compare the screen with any of these phones as I have not used them, personally I don't have issues with my contrast. I can see things well under suns reflection as well.

Navios92 said:
That was really helpful. Thanks alot.
I just have three more questions.
1- Does it reach 70c if I don't game?
2- Why shouldn't I upgrade to lollipop if I want to install custom ROMs? I've seen root method here for lollipop, what will be the problem exactly? And can't I just roll back to kitkat?
3- I've read some reviews saying that the screen is dim and has a low contrast ratio. Is it true? How does it compare to other LCDs like M8 and Z2 or the older G2?
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1) It may happens in every CPU stress condition, when device works at maximum clock (2.5 Ghz). Mostly in heavy games, but in other scenarios too, like continous switch between mobile data and Wi-Fi, or accidental screen on in pocket (which I encounter on my AOSP rom).
2) The Lollipop update enable the Secure Boot, which verify the signature of some critical partition of your device: if it find any inconsistency, the phone won't boot and send an alarming "blue-red" sequence of LED colours like a police light.
I've tried that on my device, I still get shivers!
Since you do the update, nor the downgrade to KitKat want to reverse the existence of Secure Boot, so you'll need to install only "bumped" recovery to prevent the issue.
It means that you have to manually flash TWRP recovery, since the standard "no-bumped" version will get your device in those terrible conditions.
3) I can't do a comparison since I'm not informed about these devices.
Personally for a long time I've disliked the "weak" colour intensity of G3, but after 6 months of experience I've understand that was the LCD of my old SGS3 to be abnormal, with a graceful but false contrast.
The real problem is not the contrast ratio, but the low brightness which you'll surely note in sunny conditions.
In the successor G4 the screen brightness is fixed by an increasing of almost 25%.

Simone98RC said:
1) It may happens in every CPU stress condition, when device works at maximum clock (2.5 Ghz). Mostly in heavy games, but in other scenarios too, like continous switch between mobile data and Wi-Fi, or accidental screen on in pocket (which I encounter on my AOSP rom).
2) The Lollipop update enable the Secure Boot, which verify the signature of some critical partition of your device: if it find any inconsistency, the phone won't boot and send an alarming "blue-red" sequence of LED colours like a police light.
I've tried that on my device, I still get shivers!
Since you do the update, nor the downgrade to KitKat want to reverse the existence of Secure Boot, so you'll need to install only "bumped" recovery to prevent the issue.
It means that you have to manually flash TWRP recovery, since the standard "no-bumped" version will get your device in those terrible conditions.
3) I can't do a comparison since I'm not informed about these devices.
Personally for a long time I've disliked the "weak" colour intensity of G3, but after 6 months of experience I've understand that was the LCD of my old SGS3 to be abnormal, with a graceful but false contrast.
The real problem is not the contrast ratio, but the low brightness which you'll surely note in sunny conditions.
In the successor G4 the screen brightness is fixed by an increasing of almost 25%.
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Screen quality is very important to me as I watch a lot of videos.
But heating problem is a turn off. I live in a hot country and had the same problem with Optimus 4X which was unbearable.
I might wait till G4 price goes down and buy it or get A5 and wait for a proper flagship next year.

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what are the main issues and questions about the lg g3?

What are the main issues of the lg g3 (planning to buy one)..
Does it have the screen issue like the g2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
is there a fix for the overheating and shutdown issues?
how is performance in gaming?
is it possible to reduce the resolution to 1080p to save battery and gain performance (and maybe prevent overheating)?
yeahman45 said:
What are the main issues of the lg g3 (planning to buy one)..
Does it have the screen issue like the g2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
is there a fix for the overheating and shutdown issues?
how is performance in gaming?
is it possible to reduce the resolution to 1080p to save battery and gain performance (and maybe prevent overheating)?
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Read through The G3 threads you will know the answer to all of these.
You cant reduce resolution.
Gaming is decent
I have had no such overheating since 10H update and no shutdown issues ever.
AndroidInsanity said:
Read through The G3 threads you will know the answer to all of these.
You cant reduce resolution.
Gaming is decent
I have had no such overheating since 10H update and no shutdown issues ever.
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OK the. Do other users also have temperature and shutdown issue fixed with the lg update?
Never had shutdown or overheating no matter what firmware. It's abit laggy tho but way better with art etc.
I guess you guys are not heavy users? cuz I read a lot of users have overheating issues with message prompting them to decrease brightness as it is overtheating and may shutdown (what the heck? ... LG really lost it on that one... Do you really expect to get that kind of message on a flagship pricey phone??). LG seems to be making great phones but each time there's a deal breaker. (screen issues with LG G2 and now overheating/performance issues on the LG G3)... I hope they get it right with the G4.
Did antutu x benchmarks, 3 times in a row with 90% brightness without auto with an ambient temp of 30c. I actually can't remember if my score was lower last time (because of throttling), gonna check it when I receive my phone again.
No message about high temp etc tho.
ok you are probably not a heavy user.
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I guess you guys are not heavy users? cuz I read a lot of users have overheating issues with message prompting them to decrease brightness as it is overtheating and may shutdown (what the heck? ... LG really lost it on that one... Do you really expect to get that kind of message on a flagship pricey phone??). LG seems to be making great phones but each time there's a deal breaker. (screen issues with LG G2 and now overheating/performance issues on the LG G3)... I hope they get it right with the G4.
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I am a very heavy user. No issues. People need to understand a simple factory reset and installing the latest update helps. When i first got it i performed a factory reset and installed thr latest update manually so i never really had time to see if it had issues on previous firmware . although i did run a benchmark when i got it it got really hot. But i did the same after the update it just got a little warm nothing to worry about.
ok. I want to know if other users have these issues solved with the updates like you.
yeahman45 said:
ok. I want to know if other users have these issues solved with the updates like you.
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Zero issues, apart from the screen sharpening and abysmal battery life when the screen is on
abysmal battery life?
No one is experiencing this lg g2 issue on the G3 right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
yeahman45 said:
abysmal battery life?
No one is experiencing this lg g2 issue on the G3 right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
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No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
nice video showing that how lg g3 compares to the cat 6 version and the galaxy s5 prime
Sometimes the phone become hot specially when the phone is charging and I'm texting and browsing 'usually in a dark room so the brightness is 0%'
And yes my phone brightness decreased to 90% automatically and sometimes 80% due to overheating
Lg g2 was faster than g3 and you can see it when you use it for a long time
Overall. Go for it its awesome device

[Q] Some General G3 Questions

Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
Please guys !
niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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1) I think I and J are kind of the same but others will know better, they are the latest firmware.
2) No but what you call heat and what others call heat might be different but it shouldn't get anything more than warm at most.
3) Yes but you can revert back easily to keep warranty. I used Stump Root.
4) Yes lots of things but I haven't tried any as I have very good battery. There are things you can do without rooting as well.
5) Yes that is way too much. Mine uses no more than 2% over 8 hours but I have a few of the Google things turned off.
6) Never done it but from what I've read others have had the same problem.
If you have an SD card in the phone remove it and see if the heat will stop.
It is a Saturday so give it some time for others to answer.
niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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1) My D855 is on 10H at the moment with no OTAs available at the moment. Most of the OTAs so far have just been small bug fixes and such (the change log for J is exactly the same as H). Its not worth trying to manually flash them yourself. Sometimes the update is available by the LG PC Suite before the OTA, so maybe give that a go.
2) The G3 warming up isnt uncommon. I can usually feel mine warming up around the power button in usage similar to yours. I wouldn't worry too much about the phone being hot after just booting from an update, the phone has probably been running the CPU flat out during the update and boot process to finish everything. The limited brightness is an automatic thing put in place by LG to prevent overheating. (If it was limited to 90%, then I would have thought it is not getting that hot otherwise the brightness would be limited even more)
3) Probably. I haven't rooted mine, but I believe there is a root counter/status thing in the hidden service menu that LG may look if ever your phone is sent back by which they may deny repairs or charge you for them out of warranty. (But if it is a genuine hardware defect, they may be lenient. I sent my HTC One back for repairs for the purple tint issue on the camera with the bootloader still unlocked, but they didn't say anything)
4) Not sure about that (as I haven't rooted).
5) That usage seems about the same drain I have when leaving the phone while it is on cellular data. My G3 has superb standby battery life while it is on WiFi.
6) I think that is a common occurrence with the G3, the phone is rebooting as the phone is getting too hot.
niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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That's really strange...
6) my phone barely heats up... And pass test without any problem...
Sent from from my LG-D855
Thanks a lot for the info guys !
When my phone reboots during antutu it is not even warm. I even tried doing the benchmark in the fridge and same thing happened. It just makes no sense.
Also 1 more question - Is there some kind of a list of apps that are safe to remove/dissable ?

LG G3 Marshmallow 30e , how to manage gaming heat?

I'm looking to get the LG G3 heat under control. Under nominal load I'm getting in the 50'sC with a ambient temp of 76F
If I run Pokémon Go, temps get up into the 70'sC. I'd like to do something along the lines of undervolting or underclocking the phone. Problem is I'm running 30e which doesn't currently appear to have a root option.
Any suggestions for non-root underclocking? Is there a root solution for the 30e Marshmallow for the 851
Hi, I had the same problem a few months ago. Hope this thread will help you, that's what I did and it works perfectly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/thermal-paste-to-cooling-g3-t3130752
30e too, and can't root too, so shame. Having any solutions guys?
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Things I've found...
Running 6.0 Stock 30D root.
Most of the recommendations I'm seeing are of the common sense variety.
1: Turn down screen brightness.
2: Minimize running apps.
3: Turn off GPS/WIFI ect.
4: Stop gaming
5: Stay out of the sun
I can do 1 and 2, but the others are hard to avoid I've tried the following.
1: Under clock - Surprised no help here.
2: Reduce resolution to 1080p
Looks like the next step is to move to a new Kernel or do the hardware mod.
Hardware mod looks pretty successful, but may come at a price. Screen failure.
Does moving to a new Kernel really help? I hear some folks rave but others say it really didn't make a difference.
Considering the Phone is pretty much going to be running pretty hard.
GPS plus CPU/GPU plus data. Is this a moot effort? When I under clocked, the phone heated up more slowly, but eventually reached nearly the same temperature, maybe a 1 degree difference.

Question How is the rom - kernel scene for the F3?

The price for the Poco F3 has gotten even lower here making it a incredible deal
I am quite tempted to pick up one but ii wanted to know how are the ROMs for it? what should i avoid and etc?
Which Kernel - Rom can net me more battery life too
BrokeBloke1969 said:
The price for the Poco F3 has gotten even lower here making it a incredible deal
I am quite tempted to pick up one but ii wanted to know how are the ROMs for it? what should i avoid and etc?
Which Kernel - Rom can net me more battery life too
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Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
I 'm not sure what the guy on top said, but since Lineage officially supports this phone, it's gonna stay a long time into relevancy. Lineage (and LineageForMicroG) is the only option if you want clean pure AOSP android. GCam's also are many. We are talking about 120hz refresh amoled display with a great chip 870, which till that day is quite powerful and most of all, does not thermal throttle easy. Watch this youtube video to see for yourself! All in all this phone was a major step forward from the F1, which I come from and don't go into the ROM rabbit hole (been there done that). The only ROM that is relevant/stable/clean is Lineage.
EDIT: also you may just skip the current generation of qualcomm Gen 1 it has many issues, namely thermal throttling, battery draining etc.
Zatsando said:
I 'm not sure what the guy on top said, but since Lineage officially supports this phone, it's gonna stay a long time into relevancy. Lineage (and LineageForMicroG) is the only option if you want clean pure AOSP android. GCam's also are many. We are talking about 120hz refresh amoled display with a great chip 870, which till that day is quite powerful and most of all, does not thermal throttle easy. Watch this youtube video to see for yourself! All in all this phone was a major step forward from the F1, which I come from and don't go into the ROM rabbit hole (been there done that). The only ROM that is relevant/stable/clean is Lineage.
EDIT: also you may just skip the current generation of qualcomm Gen 1 it has many issues, namely thermal throttling, battery draining etc.
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Did Lineage Release A12 Rom for alioth?
Lucid_10 said:
Did Lineage Release A12 Rom for alioth?
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only google pixel phones have los 19, but these phone are the beta testers of the bunch. I have used android 12 and I must say, it's not ready yet!
Rstment ^m^ said:
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
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I'd love to get a Pixel 6 but the battery life on it is disheartening comparing it with the 5a, Tensor isn't looking great.
Thank you for going in-depth friend, i appreciate it
Zatsando said:
I 'm not sure what the guy on top said, but since Lineage officially supports this phone, it's gonna stay a long time into relevancy. Lineage (and LineageForMicroG) is the only option if you want clean pure AOSP android. GCam's also are many. We are talking about 120hz refresh amoled display with a great chip 870, which till that day is quite powerful and most of all, does not thermal throttle easy. Watch this youtube video to see for yourself! All in all this phone was a major step forward from the F1, which I come from and don't go into the ROM rabbit hole (been there done that). The only ROM that is relevant/stable/clean is Lineage.
EDIT: also you may just skip the current generation of qualcomm Gen 1 it has many issues, namely thermal throttling, battery draining etc.
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I haven't used Lineage in ages, since 4 or 5 Androids ago, for how long is it supported by the devs?
BrokeBloke1969 said:
I'd love to get a Pixel 6 but the battery life on it is disheartening comparing it with the 5a, Tensor isn't looking great.
Thank you for going in-depth friend, i appreciate it
I haven't used Lineage in ages, since 4 or 5 Androids ago, for how long is it supported by the devs?
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I don't know the exact time but since my old mi 5, that i gave to my dad, is still receiving update (ffs this is a phone from 2016) I can safely assume it will be supported for many years to come.
BrokeBloke1969 said:
I'd love to get a Pixel 6 but the battery life on it is disheartening comparing it with the 5a, Tensor isn't looking great.
Thank you for going in-depth friend, i appreciate it
I haven't used Lineage in ages, since 4 or 5 Androids ago, for how long is it supported by the devs?
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is not supported.
I talked to dev and he basically threw his hands tryimg to fix stuff that isn't working.. He says he wanted to implement fixes that arrow has but was refused...
Touch is horrendous on lineage , it lags behind and gets stuck a lot in scrolling... These things you don't notice at first , you have to use it for a while in order to notice but when you do is a huge deal breaker.
Not even just scrolling... You notice micro stutter as you use the phone - micro stutters are fkin hell. I was happy with it at first only to have to uninstall within 1/2 hours when I noticed that touch just ain't working right
Don't bother getting this one is my take. You won't geg the features you paid for on aosp - touch polling , temperature , performance , battery charging speed ( You can charge fast forsure but other than arrow all other roms overheat to death during even regular charge speed - 40°C-50°C without anything open ) all is worse than the spec sheet...
My is not even year old but already falling apart ( Backplate lifting off from day one , charging port fkin cracked - the cheap metal they use for the phone frame cracked ... all of this on 0 major falls
Also don't think miui is any better. Bunch of restrictions, they basically hold you hostage and enable 60/120hz refresh rate as they see fit. Some apps like youtube/games are blacklisted and only allow 60hz refresh rate... Terrible thermal engine , that's the major ones at least. Everything else you can live with for the price point but the utterly lacking perfomance + restrictions on refresh rate and even touch polling unless you specifically tell it not to in certain apps are not worth dealing with.
I miss my old phone , I'd go back to my 60hz older gen phone rather than have a phone that jumps in between 60/120hz as it sees fit or the same deal with perfomance - throttling to hell with terrible performance under load
Rstment ^m^ said:
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
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May i know what version of arrowos did you used? Android 11 version or the 12 one?
sandiskusb said:
May i know what version of arrowos did you used? Android 11 version or the 12 one?
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Go with android 12 as long as you don't use apps that won't work on it
Rstment ^m^ said:
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
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PixelOS is currently the most functional one i've tried between (ArrowOS, PixelPlusUI, crDroid, Lineageos). Has a few more features than ArrowOS and battery life is just a bit better
I am just happy with CrDroid
a lot of roms are decent and stable, but official doesn't mean perfect. close to stock, Los is a good Choice but a11. on a12, arrow os and syberia are great choices if you want aosp experience with little extra tweaks. for high customization, crdroid is a great choice (very active devs). I am currently on ancient os (not available on xda it seems) to be which has high customization and the smoothest ui and ux I've seen till now, ahead of the competition in this area IMO. it has updated drivers and vulkan renderer. has anyone compared last version of ancient with other custom roms in term of smoothness ? does anyone knows if any major rom switched to updated drivers or vulkan rendering as default?
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Go with android 12 as long as you don't use apps that won't work on it
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Ok, thanks
BrokeBloke1969 said:
The price for the Poco F3 has gotten even lower here making it a incredible deal
I am quite tempted to pick up one but ii wanted to know how are the ROMs for it? what should i avoid and etc?
Which Kernel - Rom can net me more battery life too
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If you want to see the complete scene, go there: https://t.me/PocoF3IDUpdate
Enjoy
nicky69100 said:
a lot of roms are decent and stable, but official doesn't mean perfect. close to stock, Los is a good Choice but a11. on a12, arrow os and syberia are great choices if you want aosp experience with little extra tweaks. for high customization, crdroid is a great choice (very active devs). I am currently on ancient os (not available on xda it seems) to be which has high customization and the smoothest ui and ux I've seen till now, ahead of the competition in this area IMO. it has updated drivers and vulkan renderer. has anyone compared last version of ancient with other custom roms in term of smoothness ? does anyone knows if any major rom switched to updated drivers or vulkan rendering as default?
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How is the battery consumption on ancient os? How is the idle drain compared to other roms?
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How is the battery consumption on ancient os? How is the idle drain compared to other roms?
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I have between 6 7 hours of sot in mixed use (Netflix, browsing, Spotify, 1hr call, 1hr gaming on parsec). idle drain is great, I lose only 1-2% at night with data disabled. At first I had some drain which disappeared after disabling some Google apps (auto, wellbeing, search, system intelligence...)
Rstment ^m^ said:
is not supported.
I talked to dev and he basically threw his hands tryimg to fix stuff that isn't working.. He says he wanted to implement fixes that arrow has but was refused...
Touch is horrendous on lineage , it lags behind and gets stuck a lot in scrolling... These things you don't notice at first , you have to use it for a while in order to notice but when you do is a huge deal breaker.
Not even just scrolling... You notice micro stutter as you use the phone - micro stutters are fkin hell. I was happy with it at first only to have to uninstall within 1/2 hours when I noticed that touch just ain't working right
Don't bother getting this one is my take. You won't geg the features you paid for on aosp - touch polling , temperature , performance , battery charging speed ( You can charge fast forsure but other than arrow all other roms overheat to death during even regular charge speed - 40°C-50°C without anything open ) all is worse than the spec sheet...
My is not even year old but already falling apart ( Backplate lifting off from day one , charging port fkin cracked - the cheap metal they use for the phone frame cracked ... all of this on 0 major falls
Also don't think miui is any better. Bunch of restrictions, they basically hold you hostage and enable 60/120hz refresh rate as they see fit. Some apps like youtube/games are blacklisted and only allow 60hz refresh rate... Terrible thermal engine , that's the major ones at least. Everything else you can live with for the price point but the utterly lacking perfomance + restrictions on refresh rate and even touch polling unless you specifically tell it not to in certain apps are not worth dealing with.
I miss my old phone , I'd go back to my 60hz older gen phone rather than have a phone that jumps in between 60/120hz as it sees fit or the same deal with perfomance - throttling to hell with terrible performance under load
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I have between 6 7 hours of sot in mixed use (Netflix, browsing, Spotify, 1hr call, 1hr gaming on parsec). idle drain is great, I lose only 1-2% at night with data disabled. At first I had some drain which disappeared after disabling some Google apps (auto, wellbeing, search, system intelligence...)
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Thank you again for the responses, what kernel have you used the your custom roms?
BrokeBloke1969 said:
Thank you again for the responses, what kernel have you used the your custom roms?
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I use embedded kernels, I didn't try other kernels yet (it is already hard enough to find a stable rom XD)
In conclusion poco F3 is great phone for customizing ROM. So many great ROM option. I love my CRDroid 8.2 , it had some flaw but it almost perfect for my need. I believe you will also found the one ROM that suit u best. (Heck even miui derivatives are plenty for this phone)

Question Phone Overheating - Is There a Fix?

I'm on Android 13 and was hoping this would sort out the overheating problem I had with Android 12 (I read in a few places that it would), but it did not. The phone gets very warm when charging, and hot when streaming video, and just generally through simple use, nothing particularly demanding. I haven't rooted this phone because I did not see the need, but I would consider it if it was the only way to fix the problem. Is anyone experiencing the same, and does anyone have a solution?
I could be wrong but generally speaking in my experience, going from one major upgrade to another the phone works a bit harder to re-train itself to your use patterns. I just did my upgrade yesterday and experienced some slight to moderate heat as well. I also noticed that battery is draining a bit faster which I think again is part of the process. I'm going to give it a week or so and if I'm right it should improve.
I'm biased because I've had my Pixel 6 Pro rooted (and updated every month) since last November, and I also use Kirisakura custom kernel with its companion apps and currently have the one app set to the maximum battery savings.
So I can't really compare to 100% stock unrooted with the stock kernel, as I'm only briefly on the stock unrooted kernel each month after I manually flash the latest update.
Several others have commented, and I've experienced too, that with Android 13, we've no longer experienced as severe higher temperatures when charging. I don't remember if the others were rooted and using the same custom kernel, or if these were general Android 13 comments, so your mileage may vary. Sorry I can't give you any more concrete information.
Good luck!
Granted this is for my 4a5g but I wouln't be suprised if/when I get a 6 that its battery performance would be less than stellar after a good days use of phone and/or screen and radio/network. i.e. stock. Before I went to Lineage on my 4a5g I think my battery would cut a good 30-50+ percent each day. I put lineage on it and I poop you not, can go from a 75% to around 20% in about 5-6+ days. I tend to have my screen brightness around a little less than 1/4th on the slider bar.
When I had an HTC M8, after around 2 or so years (this was around 2016/7 or so. got phone oct '14) on the stock firmware the phone couln't keep it on for more than a day. Ran ViperRom for a bit then switched to cm/lineage and that stretched my usability of the phone another 5 years. It got to the point where the phone would shut off when it got to around %50 charge and go ding dong and turn off--without pluggin it in I had about 8 hours run time on it. My battery was beyond gone and no way would I have gotten that usability on the stock rom.
So, to answer your question, yes, trying different roms and kernels (rooting) could be to your advantage to prolong the life and performance of your phone.
Even if you choose to run the stock OS, with root, you could disble any bloat running in background. Kill any programs/services leeching CPU (and hence battery) cycles. You could definately make it run more efficient for YOU. Maybe not for the next guy who needs his facebook, twitter, ticktok apis and stuff loaded and at the ready. Everyone is different. But they tend to make the phones (they think) for everyone. in mind and as a result, device performance and lifespan become affected.
I definitely have heating issues and this is on a warranty exchange. The 2 previous P6Ps had all the same issues as this current device.
My phone was hot on A12 (41/45°) and since i clean flashed A13 and wiped it is cold (32/35°) for the same usage.
Greetings.
Good topic.
I have bought this phone a day before. I'm facing device heating even under simple tasks like scrolling messengers, browsing etc.
Previously I had OnePlus 7 Pro (Snapdragon 855), that one was cold all time except while charging or playing games.
However, Pixel looks warm or even hot even upon light using.
I'm a bit confused about that.
Is it a common problem of this device? Or probably exactly my device is affected?
I haven't faced overheating or alerts about that, however, it feels hot for my hands that got used to feel a cold phone while low load.
Currently, I have about 37-38 degrees while browsing on XDA and writing this post.
Just wondering that digits you have?
I did a warranty exchange on my P6P for a different issue and I'm glad I did. My replacement device has much better thermals than my original. My original one would get quite hot while charging and restoring apps and was almost uncomfortable to hold and to the touch. Could always try a warranty exchange and see if the replacement device is better for you. Also, Kiri kernel has been reported to help with the thermals. I've seen several reports of users commenting that their device runs cooler. Good luck!
I had heating issues and battery issues when I first received my P6P. Once I got it out of the box, I set it up and restored backups, rooted it, updated to android 13 without wiping, rooted again, and then flashed the Kirisakura kernel. I decided to try and flash android 13 again but keeping the -w flag to wipe userdata and didnt restore my backups and I've had amazing battery life and no overheating. If you haven't yet, try doing a factory reset. As simple as it sounds it may very well help
My fully stock P6P (on A12) gave an overheat warning yesterday while we were having a day out, it was only 22°C although we were in and out of the sun as the clouds rolled by but the phone was showing 46°C after being sat in my pocket.
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
MrBelter said:
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
darkness4every1 said:
Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Thing is I have never experienced overheating on any phone (that i have owned) in UK before, using an Exynos as the basis of Tensor and then whacking an extra big core in it was a pretty bad idea unless you live in a fridge.

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