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Usually I have someone root my devices but I was told there are easier ways to root The note 3. I have the T-Mobile version.
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Do you care if you trip Knox?
If not, then I would suggest using Chainfires root method. You can find it in the "Original Android Development" section.
If you do NOT want to trip Knox(warranty issues), then look into Root De La Vega.
I was going to go with Root De La Vega, then stumbled across Kingo Root.
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
It's just a one-click app, no ADB knowledge needed. Although I wasn't worried about it, it didn't trip the Knox counter. I did that on my own later...
trek7000 said:
I was going to go with Root De La Vega, then stumbled across Kingo Root.
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
It's just a one-click app, no ADB knowledge needed. Although I wasn't worried about it, it didn't trip the Knox counter. I did that on my own later...
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+1 to kingo, I rooted with De la Vega the first time but after that my spen wasn't taking screenshots, and the screenshot with palm action wasn't working either. I went back to stock via Odin and rooted again with kingo, and everything start to work the way is supposed to.
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trek7000 said:
I was going to go with Root De La Vega, then stumbled across Kingo Root.
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
It's just a one-click app, no ADB knowledge needed. Although I wasn't worried about it, it didn't trip the Knox counter. I did that on my own later...
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I thought this method wasn't recommended due to sending your IMEI to some unknown server? Has this issue been addressed?
The above is the only reason I didn't recommend it.
idtheftvictim said:
I thought this method wasn't recommended due to sending your IMEI to some unknown server? Has this issue been addressed?
The above is the only reason I didn't recommend it.
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I had read a little about that before I did it. At the time, I was suffering the brutal stock boot loop issue and just needed a quick way of rooting it to load TWRP so I could troubleshoot it. It wasn't stable enough for me to get ADB up and running.
To be honest, I figured even if they did get the IMEI for whatever reason, I was probably going to warranty swap the phone because I didn't realize the boot loop was a known software problem.
So far, everything seems legit.
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I had read a little about that before I did it. At the time, I was suffering the brutal stock boot loop issue and just needed a quick way of rooting it to load TWRP so I could troubleshoot it. It wasn't stable enough for me to get ADB up and running.
To be honest, I figured even if they did get the IMEI for whatever reason, I was probably going to warranty swap the phone because I didn't realize the boot loop was a known software problem.
So far, everything seems legit.
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I have pretty much chosen to pursue this route, however my phone (SM-900T) does NOT have a "Dev" section in settings, best I can manage is "Unknown Sources"...it is checked but to no avail. Please advise.
Peace
augustorm said:
I have pretty much chosen to pursue this route, however my phone (SM-900T) does NOT have a "Dev" section in settings, best I can manage is "Unknown Sources"...it is checked but to no avail. Please advise.
Peace
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They hid the developer options by default in Jelly Bean. You have to go to Settings/About Phone and tap Build Number until you get a prompt to enable dev options.
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Damn...duh...forgot about that....ty
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Root Failed with Kingo.....First failure at rooting. Hmmm
2nd time was a charm.
So I removed the root expecting to do an ota and after the ota re-root. However the server response is "device has been altered" or something similar and wont allow me to update. So I go back to Kingo to re-root and nothing. it connects but i dont even get the superuser prompt to grant access. I'm wondering if I need to do a factory reset then try again. Anyone have any ideas? All I have ever done is root. I'm at a loss.
So I removed the root expecting to do an ota and after the ota re-root. However the server response is "device has been altered" or something similar and wont allow me to update. So I go back to Kingo to re-root and nothing. it connects but i dont even get the superuser prompt to grant access. I'm wondering if I need to do a factory reset then try again. Anyone have any ideas? All I have ever done is root. I'm at a loss.
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You might not get OTA update because of rooting your phone. Try flash the update using odin.
SM-N900T: Powered by X-Note V13/CivZ-SnapKat 2.1
Yeah I was going to do that. But now I cant get re-rooted with the same method. But I think I may have found another method using odin.
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augustorm said:
Yeah I was going to do that. But now I cant get re-rooted with the same method. But I think I may have found another method using odin.
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Supposedly using mobile Odin correctly allows 4.2.2 root without tripping Knox. If you don't care about KNOX use CF-Autoroot. I stopped caring and installed Beastmode Kernel and TWRP.
Thanks..yeah the orig method I used reported not tripping knox but apparently did...now I can no longer receive ota's bfd. I dont care. I'll use odin to flash kk and root from there. If not, I have JUMP and I'll just replace it.
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Does the De La Vega root method survive an OTA update. If I have a stock 4.3 T-Mobile Note 3, which I rooted with this method, will Root survive the OTA process? If so, can I just take the T-Mobile OTA, or should I use an alternate method?
I want to preserve my knox status for retail purposes, and don't want to use CF-Root to trip it. The thread is unclear, wondering if someone can confirm.
Thanks
I'm sorry but I personally have answered this 5 or 6 times. .. so here it is again. .. If you update you will lose root and there is no 0x0 knox method atm...It's only been a day so I'm sure someone is working on it. ...
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Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
nygmam said:
Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
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Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
nickles96 said:
Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
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I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
nygmam said:
I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
BTW. Sorry your question did not get answered. The Q&A for the update was moved to the general section instead of this one, so i've been missing alot of Q&A actual questions.
nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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dragonstalker said:
That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
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I'm sorry I mean no disrespect, but what are you talking about? Breaking third party access to SD card is a feature?
And BTW yours is 3rd explanation for this mess, I heard security concerns and some other nonsense before, but to speed the device is a new one and biggest BS so far. How is SD card any concern for Google, since none of their current devices have SD card to begin with?
And as already mentioned the fix requires root and root breaks the Knox warranty on Samsung phones, so it's not an option for many.
If the speed was a reason for this so called "feature", how come all apps that come with firmware have access to SD card already, negating so called "feature" out of the box? Only third party apps that user may or may not install later are broken.
And how come the fix is not an option in the menu, available to all users, but requires root?
Sorry, but Google sabotaged SD card access on purpose to push people to their cloud services, that is the only logical explanation and this is not the first time they did that.
djtheraven said:
You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
nygmam said:
Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
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Yeah but that only works with 4.3...if you already updated then you are sol...
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ROOT [KNOX 0x0]
Did you update to NB4 and are on the verge of rooting but really do not want to trip that eFuse?
Well thanks to @geohot and his wonderful work of art over at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 we now have a
KNOX 0x0 root ability!
Step 1: Go to www.towelroot.com on your Galaxy S4 Device from T-Mobile and click the Logo in the middle (Lambda or upside down Y)
Step 2: Install the app (Google will try and halt you from installing just click next)
Step 3: Once App is installed tripple click on "Welcome to TowelRoot" Header.
Step 4: Once Text Box pops up enter the values "1337 0 1 7380 4 0" close keyboard and then press "Make it Ra1n"
There should be about a 10 Second wait and a dialog should pop up and say you are successfully rooted!
**Check your KNOX by going into download mode!
So shoot on over to his thread and give him a big thumbs up or even better... Donate!:good:
- I do not take any resposibility if your devices decides to melt in your hand like a hershey kiss on a 100 degree day nor if your late to work because your alarm clock stops working! Neither does geohot im sure. So beware you do this at your own risk.
Mine
Worked for me!!
Worked for me. Big thanks for modstring!
Dude....it's awesome to see @geohot again at work. He's an awesome guy with extreme skills. Good to see he moved away from video game console hacking to mobile phones. :victory:
If only there was a way to find a way to reverse the trip counter on already rooted phones.
brian117 said:
Dude....it's awesome to see @geohot again at work. He's an awesome guy with extreme skills. Good to see he moved away from video game console hacking to mobile phones. :victory:
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I first knew about him from jailbreaking iOS and unlocking the first iPhone, he was wasn't just into game console but it is good to see him with android, that dude is a beast!
serio22 said:
I first knew about him from jailbreaking iOS and unlocking the first iPhone, he was wasn't just into game console but it is good to see him with android, that dude is a beast!
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Yeah that too. He will always be known for jailbreaking iOS, and hacking the PS3 and getting "sued". He's had a crazy life . He even attempted working on hacking the Nintendo 3DS. But he might've moved away from that. All I know is, geohot is awesome and extremely knowledgable. Good to see him advancing with more technology.
Towelroot is awesome and all, but if you can find a way to flash recovery without tripping Knox let me know.
Does this work with the AT&T version of the S4?
Caferacer said:
Does this work with the AT&T version of the S4?
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It should
add another success! first time i tried towel root all it did was reboot my phone . this worked.! verified with root checker and Knox is 0x0 !
serio22 said:
It should
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Confirmed working for NB1 build brand new AT&T S4. The new build was giving me hassle since she just got her phone. Thanks!
wanted to see how far i could push it.
installed SU and let it disable Knox, ok , knox 0x0 still good booted n=into download mode and confirmed
installed rom manager and flashed clockwork knox 0x1 so don't flash any custom recovery. it will trip Knox.
hope that helps anyone who actually needs a knox to be 0x0. i didn't
merchant2112 said:
wanted to see how far i could push it.
installed SU and let it disable Knox, ok , knox 0x0 still good booted n=into download mode and confirmed
installed rom manager and flashed clockwork knox 0x1 so don't flash any custom recovery. it will trip Knox.
hope that helps anyone who actually needs a knox to be 0x0. i didn't
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Thank you guys it works!!
I'm just wondering though now that I have root, can I use some app to start removing bloatware from my phone safely? (Including KNOX, I'm talking about the app not the efuse) can I disable things like Carrier IQ without tripping the Knox fuse too now?
Thanks again! just trying to get an idea of what I can do without tripping the flag as I do want to have warranty on this guy for 6 more months. (last 2 replacements were defective and had to use warranty, still got 6 months left)
mansilla.jb said:
Thank you guys it works!!
I'm just wondering though now that I have root, can I use some app to start removing bloatware from my phone safely? (Including KNOX, I'm talking about the app not the efuse) can I disable things like Carrier IQ without tripping the Knox fuse too now?
Thanks again! just trying to get an idea of what I can do without tripping the flag as I do want to have warranty on this guy for 6 more months. (last 2 replacements were defective and had to use warranty, still got 6 months left)
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Km not sure about Carrier IQ, but you can't remove KNOX (it's at the system level, basically); but you can remove bloatware.
In regards to your warranty, as long as your device is bootable, you can get back to a stock state, with KNOX not tripped (there's various guides, though the S4 forums aren't the most organized, so it might take some digging).
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Does this work on encrypted device?
Safe?
Hello Guys,
Works great and I did it on my device. But my Avast Antivirus detect it as a Trojan. It's ok if it had detected as a hack tool or something like that, but as a trojan.... That got me scary... So I went to virustotal.com and got same results from other AVs...
Is it a safe apk or it's just an false positive? What you guys have to say about that? My device is safe to sensitive information as Bank app, email, etc?
lsmmello said:
Hello Guys,
Works great and I did it on my device. But my Avast Antivirus detect it as a Trojan. It's ok if it had detected as a hack tool or something like that, but as a trojan.... That got me scary... So I went to virustotal.com and got same results from other AVs...
Is it a safe apk or it's just an false positive? What you guys have to say about that? My device is safe to sensitive information as Bank app, email, etc?
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It's safe.. Look up what a trojan is.. I also accidently pressed the thanks button so you got a free one
Thanks!
serio22 said:
It's safe.. Look up what a trojan is.. I also accidently pressed the thanks button so you got a free one
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So, thank you twice!
This did not work for me on NB4 - phone just reboots. Any suggestions?
I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.
madchainsawer said:
I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.
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Search is your Friend ....
As far as i Know it doesnt work on lollipop & only works for KitKat. it doesnt work for mine on Lollipop. Also its not a Perm Root, Root is lost upon reboot
Search the Form there is a bunch more info on it
Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.
I am downgrading and i am going to attempt kingroot because i wanna get rid of bloatware and i never turn my phone off unless i really need to.
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I believe there is a debloater that's been out for lollipop that doesn't need root.
I also think I've read that even if you don't reboot, over time or after messing with certain parts of the system, you'll lose root.
Debloater doesn't remove bloatware, only disables it.
Kingroot has been reported to cause random reboots, which is why I haven't tried it in spite of the fact that I rarely if ever reboot my phone either.
Also, something I've come to wonder... What good would deleting bloatware be if those no custom ROM with reworked partitions? We wouldn't be gaining any space from the ROM partition (where system apps are stored) But we can already delete all the updates for system apps (since they go in internal storage instead of overwriting the original app in ROM storage). At least this is the way I've come to understand it from using Titanium Backup on my old devices.
I didn't think king root was actually rooting your main system rom? Thought that was why you had to use multisystem and from that point you would install the rooted kitkat rom, etc..
But if kingroot does root the factory system, then you could simply root with kingroot remove the bloatware then it wouldn't matter if you lost root after a reboot. Correct?
I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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I looked that up on xda and kit kat doesnt need root lollipop does
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I was wondering if I went through this temp root path and modified my hosts file as well as using "SDFix: KitKat Writable SD" to give me write access to sd. Would they stay that way modified host file and write access if I hard rebooted and removed king root or SU after doing those things originally with root permissions?
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No they won't
drewcam888 said:
No they won't
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Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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amsgh said:
Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot
drewcam888 said:
Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot
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Ok thanks. Does that also mean that the hosts file reverts?
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Everything reverts back to original
madchainsawer said:
I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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ubigred said:
Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.
buhohitr said:
You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.
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Damn I'm on OG5. I really can't downgrade?
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I dont think kingroot is root at all.
I dont understand the term "temporary root"
Even if its temporary, changes it makes to the system should be permanent yet they go back to normal.
I tried using system app uninstaller and it said "succeeded "
I tried to use AdAway and it said "successful"
I even opened up the system/hosts file to confirm the change was made, yet after reboot everything went back to stock.
Not only that, but kingroot comes with FULL SCREEN ads that pop when you exit application that requested root access, and they are annoying playing videos and eat up your data.
I think kingroot creates virtual root environment inside RAM. Changes made inside RAM do not apply to device storage. Nothing is changed to say the very least but allot of garbage and spyware is added.
Even after uninstalling the app, its service is left behind and you gotta remove thru "Settings/applications/All"
Smart Chinese should have put their knowledge into cracking the locked bootloader instead of creating fake trash like this.
droidx2.3.3 said:
Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.
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I was playing with my buddy's note4 (sm-n910v) this evening and I used Kingroot's Purify app. After running it, I went through every option and it finally gave me a link to the Kingroot.net download (XDA's wouldn't parse for me).
I installed Kingroot and ran it... fail.
Rebooted
Ran Purify again, followed by Kingroot.... Root Successful!
Ran RootChecker..... haha... tripped the knox.... auto reboot. (Note to self... don't run RootChecker)
Ran Kingroot.... much faster root success this time!
Verified root by turning on the root explorer in ES File Explorer's options.... Root was asked for and granted.
Instead of removing the bloatware using ES File, I opted to give the Purify app another try in hope of getting root to stick.
That's when I came Purify's 'Debloater' app.... It started ok, so, I handed my buddy his phone and told him."Better get some while the getting is good!".... He had about 30 apps checked when I stopped him and suggested he make a back up before he does anymore!
Apps uninstalled successfully and my buddy rebooted (ok...I guess we're done).
After reboot.. root was gone but, so were the 30+ apps!
Long story short.... Getting root is possible... You just have to get root when you need it and be decisive in your actions.... Remember anything that trips the knox and try to avoid it!... Work Purify and Kingroot back and forth like a couple of wedges... I think I was close to getting root to stick permanently but, my buddy had to go home and he took all the toys with him
I guess the next step is getting rid of, disabling or re-configuring the knox.... So, please read up on the knox system change detect-o-matic before trying to uninstall it... Do it right and you'll be a champ!
But... if you automate it for everyone with a small program and you'll reach 'Hero' status for sure!
Oh yeah.... That Note4 was running Lollipop 5.1.0 (or 5.0.1?... I didn't pay much attention)
Hope that helps
<8^)
P.S. Sorry if I posted incorrectly ... I'll get it right one of these days!
Ok in strongly considering rooting again for the first time in years.
Which of the standard features do we lose by applying root access?
Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, KNOX, OTA updates...
terpi74 said:
Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, KNOX, OTA updates...
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Secure folder works with root...however the rest of the list is accurate
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Spay can gain back with. Gear 3.
The rest don't matter
Pretty much everything by samsung...
Might as well get oneplus or other phones
Also your lose android pay or whatever google call it now but you could get it back I think
Unfortunately, the biggest step back for me is the Google pay not working. There have been some bypasses, but they do not work anymore. So no root for me :/
Ereniemis said:
Unfortunately, the biggest step back for me is the Google pay not working. There have been some bypasses, but they do not work anymore. So no root for me :/
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Not if you follow the steps
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950/page75
Here's mine working
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