what is lost in root??? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

Ok in strongly considering rooting again for the first time in years.
Which of the standard features do we lose by applying root access?

Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, KNOX, OTA updates...

terpi74 said:
Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, KNOX, OTA updates...
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Secure folder works with root...however the rest of the list is accurate
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Spay can gain back with. Gear 3.
The rest don't matter

Pretty much everything by samsung...
Might as well get oneplus or other phones

Also your lose android pay or whatever google call it now but you could get it back I think

Unfortunately, the biggest step back for me is the Google pay not working. There have been some bypasses, but they do not work anymore. So no root for me :/

Ereniemis said:
Unfortunately, the biggest step back for me is the Google pay not working. There have been some bypasses, but they do not work anymore. So no root for me :/
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Not if you follow the steps
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950/page75
Here's mine working
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Did my device change identity? Apps not available and device gone from play store.

So this is odd.. Since yesterday a few things happened:
-If I search for apps I have in the play store, I cannot find them. Search results turn up VERY little results.
-If I search for 1 app specifically and click the app icon (so not searching by text field) it says the app is not compatible with my device.
-If I do the same with apps I already have, it says my device is not compatible with this version of the app (even though I have it!)
-My device is gone from the google play store website..
-If I go to my apps in the play store, about 15 of my 200 actually show up, the rest is gone.
I already cleared Google Services Framework yesterday, and after a night, still not fixed..
Now what?
I was planning on flashing a new rom today, will that auto fix it? Because I don't want to flash the new rom, if after that I cannot use the play store to find all the apps I have right now..
Which rom are you running at the moment?
Androidwizzard said:
Which rom are you running at the moment?
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Stock with built in root (also stock recovery). Had it for at least a year now without updating, but I felt it was time for kitkat.
Wow this sucks. I did this, the ultimate wipe and reboot 1 second after:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377514
And after rebooting, my play store keeps getting the same error "no connection". On wifi and 3g even though my internet browser works fine. So I guess that made it worse.. Going to try this now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273994
Didn't work, still no connection.
Now rebooting after deleting play store data.
Will the new rom flash solve this anyway? If so I'll just do that.
Delano.888 said:
Stock with built in root (also stock recovery). Had it for at least a year now without updating, but I felt it was time for kitkat.
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Have you already updated and is device name still GT N 7100?
Androidwizzard said:
Have you already updated and is device name still GT N 7100?
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No I wanted to do that today but I won't if I can't install my apps after that.
I'm on 4.1.2 and my device name is still correct.
Not easy to predict and give a guarantee, but on the other hand: what to loose if you already have those problems?
I would give a try.
Not to forget the most important thing: If you update, you will get knox-enabled bootloader, so you could loose warranty by Samsung with rooting your device.
Androidwizzard said:
Not easy to predict and give a guarantee, but on the other hand: what to loose if you already have those problems?
I would give a try.
Not to forget the most important thing: If you update, you will get knox-enabled bootloader, so you could loose warranty by Samsung with rooting your device.
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Oh yeah didn't think of that, I was going to go for this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504016
But that does seem to come with knox. Guess I'll look around a bit more.
Delano.888 said:
Oh yeah didn't think of that, I was going to go for this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504016
But that does seem to come with knox. Guess I'll look around a bit more.
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For that rom you need at least MJ5 bootloader as for all new KitKat roms.
Androidwizzard said:
For that rom you need at least MJ5 bootloader as for all new KitKat roms.
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Which comes with knox, correct?
But roms can come de-knoxed, right? And this one isn't.
I already have root so warranty is not that big of an issue.
Delano.888 said:
Which comes with knox, correct?
But roms can come de-knoxed, right? And this one isn't.
I already have root so warranty is not that big of an issue.
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Yes comes with knox but not enabled so there is no knox counter saying warranty void 0x1.
All custom roms come deknoxed, nothing to fear about knox.
BTW: Knox is in fact only an application to run on business devices of companies. No use and importance for private users.
Androidwizzard said:
Yes comes with knox but not enabled so there is no knox counter saying warranty void 0x1.
All custom roms come deknoxed, nothing to fear about knox.
BTW: Knox is in fact only an application to run on business devices of companies. No use and importance for private users.
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Okay thanks.
I'm not planning on updating any time soon and I want 4.4 doesn't REALLY matter which rom.
Can you advise me which rom is most done atm? So I don't have to update in a month again?
Most roms are still in development and change their bases as soon as new firmware is available.
Many of them deal with new S5 features and also Note 3 goodies are inbuilt.
It is totally your choice - not mine - what you need and prefer :good:
Take a look around HERE
Androidwizzard said:
Most roms are still in development and change their bases as soon as new firmware is available.
Many of them deal with new S5 features and also Note 3 goodies are inbuilt.
It is totally your choice - not mine - what you need and prefer :good:
Take a look around HERE
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Okay thanks going to install ditto and hope it fixes my issue as well, if not I'll be back here.
Guess I messed up some stuff, have to open a new thread.
P.S. @Delano.888 if ur play store has no connection, use a root browser and delete the host file from the etc folder, Just a pro tip for u
N7105 rocking AOSB with AGNi kernel,
Sent from a small country named Singapore.
Click "Thanks" if I was of any help!
Irwenzhao said:
P.S. @Delano.888 if ur play store has no connection, use a root browser and delete the host file from the etc folder, Just a pro tip for u
N7105 rocking AOSB with AGNi kernel,
Sent from a small country named Singapore.
Click "Thanks" if I was of any help!
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I did that 3 times because that tip is all over the internet but it didn't help. The new rom did fix the problem though so this thread is no longer needed.

CF-Auto-Root

S6 CF-Auto-Roots are available from the repository at http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ !
Nice, looking forward for it
Will test as soon as my device arrives.
I am afraid of this statement:
Before actually rooting though, consider that KNOX will likely be tripped, and there's a good chance untripped KNOX will be required for phone based payments.
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As samsung pay is a feature I could use frequently. At the same time, I can't live without apps that requires root access to run.
KristianKenneth said:
I am afraid of this statement:
As samsung pay is a feature I could use frequently. At the same time, I can't live without apps that requires root access to run.
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Can someone that has a T-Mobile S6 please test this?! If so, then I honestly might not root my S6 -_- unless someone comes up with a way to not trip Knox.
The s6 is out now?
No, but there are enough engineers at service centers, distributors, inside Samsung itself, who already have one, leak the necessary files, and test the roots, for this to be available already.
thank you chainfire you do the best for all users
KristianKenneth said:
I am afraid of this statement:
As samsung pay is a feature I could use frequently. At the same time, I can't live without apps that requires root access to run.
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You've never used it before, so there's no loss.
As usual U did that.
Thank you Chainfire!
Having a problam.
in odin everything o.k until nand write start and the n it stays like this.
left it for 15 min and nothing. just stuck on nand write start.
Chainfire said:
The first S6 roots are available from the repository: http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ !
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Hiya CF.
Awesome work!
Me=Big Fan.
Silly question. I just per-ordered a T-Mobile GS6 Edge (128). I would very much like to root it. If you could, would you link the correct download from your repository for this particular Phone/Model?
Thanks,
-NJ
Does this require wipe? Bootloader unlock?
What is the model number of the S6 (Tmobile) if any one knows?
Ocean2k said:
Having a problam.
in odin everything o.k until nand write start and the n it stays like this.
left it for 15 min and nothing. just stuck on nand write start.
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Same thing happening to me.
SM-G920T is the model # for my regular S6 on tmo.
Alarand said:
Same thing happening to me.
SM-G920T is the model # for my regular S6 on tmo.
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Can confirm the model number. Guess root isn't available yet. Not used to using browser without adblock
Not working here either. I just received my T-Mobile GS6 today and I can't get it to apply the root. Odin just keeps failing.
Could it be the out-of-the-box OTA we received? Or was this ever actually working?
greyhulk said:
Not working here either. I just received my T-Mobile GS6 today and I can't get it to apply the root. Odin just keeps failing.
Could it be the out-of-the-box OTA we received? Or was this ever actually working?
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It's the ota we received. The build id of the software we have doesn't match what chain fire has posted on his site. Wait for him to update
Ocean2k said:
Having a problam.
in odin everything o.k until nand write start and the n it stays like this.
left it for 15 min and nothing. just stuck on nand write start.
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I confirm the same tried it twice.
xdviper said:
It's the ota we received. The build id of the software we have doesn't match what chain fire has posted on his site. Wait for him to update
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Still have to wait for an update from chainfire but I tried rooting before applying the ota update and it hanged all the same
Alarand said:
Still have to wait for an update from chainfire but I tried rooting before applying the ota update and it hanged all the same
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Ya I tried it before then went ahead and took the update. l remembered much people saying samsung/tmobile usual sends a update at launch that improves things so wanted to get that out the way.

kingroot

I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.
madchainsawer said:
I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.
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Search is your Friend ....
As far as i Know it doesnt work on lollipop & only works for KitKat. it doesnt work for mine on Lollipop. Also its not a Perm Root, Root is lost upon reboot
Search the Form there is a bunch more info on it
Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.
I am downgrading and i am going to attempt kingroot because i wanna get rid of bloatware and i never turn my phone off unless i really need to.
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I believe there is a debloater that's been out for lollipop that doesn't need root.
I also think I've read that even if you don't reboot, over time or after messing with certain parts of the system, you'll lose root.
Debloater doesn't remove bloatware, only disables it.
Kingroot has been reported to cause random reboots, which is why I haven't tried it in spite of the fact that I rarely if ever reboot my phone either.
Also, something I've come to wonder... What good would deleting bloatware be if those no custom ROM with reworked partitions? We wouldn't be gaining any space from the ROM partition (where system apps are stored) But we can already delete all the updates for system apps (since they go in internal storage instead of overwriting the original app in ROM storage). At least this is the way I've come to understand it from using Titanium Backup on my old devices.
I didn't think king root was actually rooting your main system rom? Thought that was why you had to use multisystem and from that point you would install the rooted kitkat rom, etc..
But if kingroot does root the factory system, then you could simply root with kingroot remove the bloatware then it wouldn't matter if you lost root after a reboot. Correct?
I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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I looked that up on xda and kit kat doesnt need root lollipop does
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I was wondering if I went through this temp root path and modified my hosts file as well as using "SDFix: KitKat Writable SD" to give me write access to sd. Would they stay that way modified host file and write access if I hard rebooted and removed king root or SU after doing those things originally with root permissions?
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No they won't
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No they won't
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Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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amsgh said:
Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
sent from my SM-N910A
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Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot
drewcam888 said:
Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot
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Ok thanks. Does that also mean that the hosts file reverts?
sent from my SM-P600 RLS5.0
Everything reverts back to original
madchainsawer said:
I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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ubigred said:
Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.
buhohitr said:
You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.
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Damn I'm on OG5. I really can't downgrade?
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I dont think kingroot is root at all.
I dont understand the term "temporary root"
Even if its temporary, changes it makes to the system should be permanent yet they go back to normal.
I tried using system app uninstaller and it said "succeeded "
I tried to use AdAway and it said "successful"
I even opened up the system/hosts file to confirm the change was made, yet after reboot everything went back to stock.
Not only that, but kingroot comes with FULL SCREEN ads that pop when you exit application that requested root access, and they are annoying playing videos and eat up your data.
I think kingroot creates virtual root environment inside RAM. Changes made inside RAM do not apply to device storage. Nothing is changed to say the very least but allot of garbage and spyware is added.
Even after uninstalling the app, its service is left behind and you gotta remove thru "Settings/applications/All"
Smart Chinese should have put their knowledge into cracking the locked bootloader instead of creating fake trash like this.
droidx2.3.3 said:
Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.
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I was playing with my buddy's note4 (sm-n910v) this evening and I used Kingroot's Purify app. After running it, I went through every option and it finally gave me a link to the Kingroot.net download (XDA's wouldn't parse for me).
I installed Kingroot and ran it... fail.
Rebooted
Ran Purify again, followed by Kingroot.... Root Successful!
Ran RootChecker..... haha... tripped the knox.... auto reboot. (Note to self... don't run RootChecker)
Ran Kingroot.... much faster root success this time!
Verified root by turning on the root explorer in ES File Explorer's options.... Root was asked for and granted.
Instead of removing the bloatware using ES File, I opted to give the Purify app another try in hope of getting root to stick.
That's when I came Purify's 'Debloater' app.... It started ok, so, I handed my buddy his phone and told him."Better get some while the getting is good!".... He had about 30 apps checked when I stopped him and suggested he make a back up before he does anymore!
Apps uninstalled successfully and my buddy rebooted (ok...I guess we're done).
After reboot.. root was gone but, so were the 30+ apps!
Long story short.... Getting root is possible... You just have to get root when you need it and be decisive in your actions.... Remember anything that trips the knox and try to avoid it!... Work Purify and Kingroot back and forth like a couple of wedges... I think I was close to getting root to stick permanently but, my buddy had to go home and he took all the toys with him
I guess the next step is getting rid of, disabling or re-configuring the knox.... So, please read up on the knox system change detect-o-matic before trying to uninstall it... Do it right and you'll be a champ!
But... if you automate it for everyone with a small program and you'll reach 'Hero' status for sure!
Oh yeah.... That Note4 was running Lollipop 5.1.0 (or 5.0.1?... I didn't pay much attention)
Hope that helps
<8^)
P.S. Sorry if I posted incorrectly ... I'll get it right one of these days!

note 7 secure folder , how to get it back after root?

how to get it back secure folder after rooted, unroot? any solution? im try flash stock rom via odin, full format..clean flash.. unroot,but still no luck, secure folder not work , anyone to know how to get it back?
Pretty sure if you root you trip Knox. Meaning no more samsung pay or secure folder.
Silly feature anyways.
private mod is better then secure folder, its very2 anoying to used this apps+knox
Cam confirm as blaze said that once u root the Note 7 (apart from using the sprint rom method) the knox is tripped and that means you lose access to secure folder and s health as well.
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jongilluley said:
Cam confirm as blaze said that once u root the Note 7 (apart from using the sprint rom method) the knox is tripped and that means you lose access to secure folder and s health as well.
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Haha we in the sony team, still waiting for my note7
S health works .. secure folder wont
In my opinion the secure folder is genius and if after root it is disabled I probably wont root now...
Mainly used root on phones to get more features,multi-boot add extra performance or save battery with different kernels and tweaks.
But now every phone is basically equally fast and you can improve battery life without root.
Also samsung rom is so feature packed and so customizable that I feel no need to root.
Probably will though in a year or so..
kenpaci said:
how to get it back secure folder after rooted, unroot? any solution? im try flash stock rom via odin, full format..clean flash.. unroot,but still no luck, secure folder not work , anyone to know how to get it back?
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Google pay not working.

Magisk says that my device is secure, but Google pay is not working. The payment method works when I am ordering from the Google play store. It is just my debit card. Any ideas?
upperbladez said:
Magisk says that my device is secure, but Google pay is not working. The payment method works when I am ordering from the Google play store. It is just my debit card. Any ideas?
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I had the same issue and someone replied and said that the newest version of Google play services can detect unlocked bootloader. It works if you rollback to an older version but it may just be easier to wait until they update Magisk.
Here is a link with more info.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...magisk-discussion-t3906703/page2#post79044917
upperbladez said:
Magisk says that my device is secure, but Google pay is not working. The payment method works when I am ordering from the Google play store. It is just my debit card. Any ideas?
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This was an issue on the stable release, so I switch to canary. As far as I know now, it should be resolved on stable with a wipe of data from google Pay but see this thread for more info - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/discussion-google-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703
upperbladez said:
Magisk says that my device is secure, but Google pay is not working. The payment method works when I am ordering from the Google play store. It is just my debit card. Any ideas?
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Custom or stock rom? What kernel?
I am on HavocOS with Kirisakura kernel. Google pay working fine with latest update for me. I have seen other people discussing non-working google pay, and switching to a different kernel solved it for them.
suhridkhan said:
Custom or stock rom? What kernel?
I am on HavocOS with Kirisakura kernel. Google pay working fine with latest update for me. I have seen other people discussing non-working google pay, and switching to a different kernel solved it for them.
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Havoc as well, am and was on the same Kirishakura kernal as well so I dont think its kernel related.
Remove all cards. Clear storage for Google pay and Google services. Then add cards again.
shortyboy said:
Remove all cards. Clear storage for Google pay and Google services. Then add cards again.
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What happens if you don't remove your cards and just clear storage for Google Pay and Google Services? It said it can't remove my card because it's associated with a service or subscription, likely from financing my p2xl through Google. Any other work around to get Google pay working?
fortillian said:
What happens if you don't remove your cards and just clear storage for Google Pay and Google Services? It said it can't remove my card because it's associated with a service or subscription, likely from financing my p2xl through Google. Any other work around to get Google pay working?
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This happens to me too.
I updated magisk. Still isn't working. Anyone else?
Ehm I have advice because I had this problem either. Just lock bootloader and it will work. But be carefull, if you have custom recovery than there is chance to brick device.
Still ongoing with no permanent solution yet. Its likely going to take an update to Magisk to fix.
All of the workarounds are temporary for a few days before things are detected again.
Relostyt said:
Ehm I have advice because I had this problem either. Just lock bootloader and it will work. But be carefull, if you have custom recovery than there is chance to brick device.
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thats what google wants you to do when they soft brick your phone with an update and you cant reflash it and you have to pay $$$$$$$$ to fix something you could do for free the allow unlocking option was the worst thing that has happened to android at least before this was around you could recover phone but lose data but now os bricked and cant read state of toggle rip your phone!!! so no im not re locking my bootloader to have android pay work i want it to work but not bad enough to risk my phones safety
billycar11 said:
thats what google wants you to do when they soft brick your phone with an update and you cant reflash it and you have to pay $$$$$$$$ to fix something you could do for free the allow unlocking option was the worst thing that has happened to android at least before this was around you could recover phone but lose data but now os bricked and cant read state of toggle rip your phone!!! so no im not re locking my bootloader to have android pay work i want it to work but not bad enough to risk my phones safety
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Yeah...I don't think I'd do this one.
Itachisasuke said:
Still ongoing with no permanent solution yet. Its likely going to take an update to Magisk to fix.
All of the workarounds are temporary for a few days before things are detected again.
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Is that the thread to watch where the fix will be announced?
billycar11 said:
thats what google wants you to do when they soft brick your phone with an update and you cant reflash it and you have to pay $$$$$$$$ to fix something you could do for free the allow unlocking option was the worst thing that has happened to android at least before this was around you could recover phone but lose data but now os bricked and cant read state of toggle rip your phone!!! so no im not re locking my bootloader to have android pay work i want it to work but not bad enough to risk my phones safety
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Yeah...I don't think I'd do this one.
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Just a heads up guys I've actually relocked and locked my bootloader multiple times maybe 4/5 times in the past month and never experienced no hard it soft bricks always went smoothly as long as you follow the instructions. Now I'm thinking of relocking again because Google pay is actually more important to me than root but if there's an update coming to fix Google pay them I'll wait.
sharpz811 said:
Just a heads up guys I've actually relocked and locked my bootloader multiple times maybe 4/5 times in the past month and never experienced no hard it soft bricks always went smoothly as long as you follow the instructions. Now I'm thinking of relocking again because Google pay is actually more important to me than root but if there's an update coming to fix Google pay them I'll wait.
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yes your phone wont brick from re locking the problem comes down the line for an update or something like that i have unlocked and relocked bootloaders many times too but what happens when your phone soft bricks months later after an update and it can only get to fastboot and it cant be unlocked because the phone can read the state of the togggle in the os if unlocking is allowed rip phone
billycar11 said:
yes your phone wont brick from re locking the problem comes down the line for an update or something like that i have unlocked and relocked bootloaders many times too but what happens when your phone soft bricks months later after an update and it can only get to fastboot and it cant be unlocked because the phone can read the state of the togggle in the os if unlocking is allowed rip phone
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Bruh just when i thought i was finally getting the hang of understanding this pixel. My 6p was so much easier to work with lol. So basically what you saying is that it's best to keep bootloader unlocked to prevent any possible bricks later down the road?
sharpz811 said:
Bruh just when i thought i was finally getting the hang of understanding this pixel. My 6p was so much easier to work with lol. So basically what you saying is that it's best to keep bootloader unlocked to prevent any possible bricks later down the road?
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yup
shortyboy said:
Remove all cards. Clear storage for Google pay and Google services. Then add cards again.
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Is this fix still working for you after April update? Root is more important to me than Google Pay but it's a convenience.
is this working for anyone else?

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