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As title says I am toying with the idea of updating my ROM from stock 4.1.1
Although I am happy with its overall performance I would like to know from other people what they felt were the main difference when they changed ROMs
I would love to get rid of all the bloatware and have the new camera app with 4.2
also...read somewhere that 4.2 will be available OTA in the new year but what the hell, people root out of the box so it can't be all that bad
All advice welcome thank you for your time
Cheers
Lee
If all you want to do is remove bloatware, all you need to do is root. You can install some of the 4.2 apps without rooting either.
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You don't need to use a Custom rom really.
I got my Note 2 since yesterday and I'm really happy with stock performance (and I was coming from a SGS3).
I just powered it with root and XposedFramework with call recording and multiwindow modules.
I don't know only few devs are doing their mods with xposedframework...
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If you want to tweak and customise it then go for a custom ROM.
Otherwise, if you just want to remove pre-installed apps then just root it and stay on stock as D3 suggested.
Ok so rooting is a must, would I still get updates OTA if I am rooted? maybe for now I can just uninstall bloatware and install the camera app until 4.2 is released
Going to give this a whirl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5RpWHDFAEs
I went that way with my Note I, and was so addicted to it that I didn't rest until I bricked it, of course it was entirely my fault alone but will never take that root again.
So my 64 million dollar advice is no, I will most patiently wait for the stock ROM.
EFCLEE said:
Ok so rooting is a must, would I still get updates OTA if I am rooted? maybe for now I can just uninstall bloatware and install the camera app until 4.2 is released
Going to give this a whirl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5RpWHDFAEs
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I dunno about OTA. I rooted and flashed custom within about 2hrs of getting my Note 2
Put it this way though...any updates, fixes or features included in new official firmware will always be included in the latest stock ROMs, often even before the official stock appears as many XDA devs have industry insiders who often leak f/w early.
Easiest way to root and install a custom recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923956
hagba said:
I went that way with my Note I, and was so addicted to it that I didn't rest until I bricked it, of course it was entirely my fault alone but will never take that root again.
So my 64 million advice is no, I will most patiently wait for the stock ROM.
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All soft-bricks are fixable... don't let it put you off enjoying the vast array of awesome custom ROMs available for Note 2. Just be sure to always have a back-up handy, and to always read the instructions as many times as it takes for them to be clear in your mind :good:
If you have to ask then no.
This PSA was sent Flow style from my Note 2 N-7100
Been using droids for too long now, and I've tried them all. So my 128 million dollar answer will be, NO.
I'm never opening my door to welcome whole world of problems, bugs, frustrations.
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jujuburi said:
Been using droids for too long now, and I've tried them all. So my 128 million dollar answer will be, NO.
I'm never opening my door to welcome whole world of problems, bugs, frustrations.
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You must be flashing the wrong ROMs
I've been doing this a long time too, on lots of different phones and rarely have any bugs or frustrations, certaininly nothing that isn't usually A/ apparent on stock f/w too or B/ fixed within hours/days by the ROM devs. I wouldn't say I'm a flashaholic though, I tend to find a ROM that works well then use it for a few weeks with the odd kernel swap until the next major release, usually a new base, then I'll monitor the threads for a few days to see what issues others are having and see if it's worth my while updating. I guess that's half the fun for me though and I understand some people simplay can't be bothered with it. Each to their own :good:
The good thing about Note 2 is it has good stock and cutom ROMs so you're going to have a good experience either way
I'd echo citizenlees comments. The stock rom is pretty good.
I'm a relative new comer, and I'm in the process of mixing up ROMS And kernels. And I have to say it's been fun trying new things and seeing how they work for you. My battery life now is mega! And that's only from tinkering.
Make sure your back up is solid depending on which recovery version you use.
I've had to use the recovery method when things have gone pear shaped, but all good now.
Have fun and explore in small steps.
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you need to have root to enjoy your android phone to full...for ex: to include all apps in multiview, etc..........but when you have rooted the note2, there is no way you get OTA updates...they are also far and few..you need to update by flashing the official new firmware using odin, when it is made available, usually 2-3 months later than the leak....and you would again lose root...so you again have to root......(unlike my asus tablet, where i can restore root without problem and i get OTA updates despite being rooted..and i am using stock rom on it...asus is fast on updates and fixes)
so think about it, ...you may as well flash custom roms (most are close to stock on the note2 ...just debloated, rooted with all tweaks and mods pre-installed) and enjoy all tweaks and updates earlier.
just read instructions carefully, no problems
The stock firmware is wonderful. I myself got my note yesterday and I am planning to just root and debloat it. I would advise the same.
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i'm more than satisfied with fully stock ROM ( with disabling bloatwares )
just playing with kernels
Im using it stock (4.1.2 official) + root + cwm (to flash some mods for odex roms...) .. And i enjoy it.. THe only thing i miss are those mods for notification toggles, as i cant get them to work on odexed 4.1.2...
Rest is totally fine...
And for the OTA. you dont need to wait for ota.. Just follow xda and, when next official version comes out (4.2) just flash it via odin
EFCLEE said:
...and have the new camera app with 4.2
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If quality don't matter, 4.2 camera isn't close to Samsung's firmware camera. Just something to consider.
Device belong to us..not samsung anymore. Unlease the power!
Update....
hence forth with cm10.1 and gapps-jb was a pleasant experience I have to say.
on boot chose not to do a full synch with gmail, sweet that it re-downloads all ur apps but on this occasion thought best not to
camera didnt have sphere!! so i flash it with 4camnex2 so now I have 2 camera icons in my app draw one that has no sphere and one that fails to load!! hmm
also keyboard doesnt have any number across the top, I was sooo used to this previous now its just a bind having to press 123 button
on the whole I am still glad I upgraded to 4.2
am I right that I could re-flash with an official ROM and revert back to OTA updates?
Any advice on tweaks wit this would be most welcome
Cheers
Lee
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?
Still on 4.1.2, N7100. So i've downloaded the May 2014 4.4.2 France firmware, will that be okay? After that, will i be able to root? Even with Knox... And how is the battery life on 4.4.2? Is it good? And lastly, how is the performance? Will I experience lag and stutters?
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Still on 4.1.2, N7100. So i've downloaded the May 2014 4.4.2 France firmware, will that be okay? After that, will i be able to root? Even with Knox... And how is the battery life on 4.4.2? Is it good? And lastly, how is the performance? Will I experience lag and stutters?
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Yes you can flash any country's stock ROM and France firmware is what most developers used to make custom roms and we are using it without issues.Some users have had to switch modems to get better reception and data speeds but that's not a big deal.Yes you can root stock ROM with Knox, follow this guide on how to root it.Battery life is subjective.Some users are getting excellent battery life,some are getting less than what they got on 4.1.2.Performance wise stock rom has no lag no stuttering.When it comes to custom roms you got lots of options so performance will vary depending on what features does a custom ROM contain like S5 and N3 features.
Alright i just updated, i like the layout, but the something in the wake lock is bothering me, it is being kept awake by google services, any idea which service? Its on since i unplugged it.
I recently updated my N7105 to the recent 4.4.2 Nordic ROM ( n7105xxufnd3 )that was floating round that tripped my Knox, which I dont care about.
When i got sick of the updates abysmal battery life i flashed the latest stable release of CM for the GNII LTE a 4.3 based ROM with out issues.
But I'd like to know if i can revert back to my original ROM i.e. WanamLite MC3 V1.3, a TW 4.1.2 based ROM, for its spen support, battery life, atpx and boeffla sound support (im a big music listener) w/ Wanam's Adam Kernel.
Can i do this with out running into any issues, despite the gap between a 4.4.2 boot-loader (as I've been told i cant roll-back from this version) to a TW 4.1.2 ROM?
Thanks in advance guys
greyhamism said:
Can i do this with out running into any issues?
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Based from what I remember, devs say that when you are with KK BL (ND3), you cannot flash a stock rom lower than it and the lowest custom rom that you can flash is 4.3.
Is there anyway i can flash an older bootloader? and/or is there a similar ROM to Wanam's that uses 4.3 as its base?
As awesome as CM is, there are touchwiz features specific to the note series that are hard to implement on CM/ASOP based ROMS :/
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Is there anyway i can flash an older bootloader? and/or is there a similar ROM to Wanam's that uses 4.3 as its base?
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Do not try to install anything lower as it will break device. I'm sorry, I know nothing about wanam lite.
I have a unrooted note 2, manually installed 4.4.2 as 4.3 had major battery issues.
Things got worse for me in 4.4.2 nordic countries and I went and downloaded the offical roms from sammobile and am now back on 4.1.1 offical.
It can be done.
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It can be done.
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Wow, I thought once you are in a higher bootloader, you cannot install a lower one. No problems at all?
I'm sorry if I gave out wrong info, that was how I knew it was.
I have no issues at all.
Apart from missing out on features from 4.1.2 and above everything works as if I didnt update the device at all.
I would not do a restore from higher up android versions but if you start feom scratch its all good.
And I can say my zero lemon battery is working at it should be, I now have days worth of battery life.
I'm getting invalid kernel/ ramdisk size error on bootloader screen. This is the first time I got this error while entering recovery screen. I'm don't know much about this. Please help.
I have rooted Moto X (2013) running LiquidSmooth v 3.2
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Sorry champ but this threqd is for a galaxy note 2 specifically a gt7105 and has installed a samsung stock rom, I have done this and have gone back to 4.1.1 but seeing as you have a rooted romed moto x it is out of my league.
I dare say this process is incompatible with the moto x and seeing as you can get into recovery or cwm or what ever its called you can still flash a rom with the relavent bootloader that was previous to your dilemma
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Hey! I'm new to the Note 3 community. I bought it recently after getting fed up with the battery life on my Nexus 5. I bought it from Swappa with stock rooted 4.4.2. I did lots of flashing and modding on my Nexus and I had an old Samsung (DROID Charge) as my first phone so I've used ODIN a little but I haven't done any rooting/ROMing on my Note yet.
I'm excited to put Lollipop on my phone but I love WiFi calling so I've been waiting for the Official update. What is the process like to get me from stock rooted KK to stock rooted Lollipop? Should I wait for a stock rooted ROM to be posted so I can flash it? Or should I unroot then update OTA then reroot? Is it better to do a factory reset? As much detail as possible for a Samsung noob would be very appreciated! Thanks.
Grab a soda, maybe a snack, and have a seat. It can be anywhere from a few hours to a few days...to even a few weeks for someone to gain full root to Lollipop.
Just keep checking back to see when someone has it rooted. In the mean time, enjoy rooted KK and try out some of the ROMs. I'm part of the Tweaked family but some of the other ROMs are very good as well.
Lastly, WELCOME TO THE NOTE 3 COMMUNITY!!
51D7H3K1D said:
Hey! I'm new to the Note 3 community. I bought it recently after getting fed up with the battery life on my Nexus 5. I bought it from Swappa with stock rooted 4.4.2. I did lots of flashing and modding on my Nexus and I had an old Samsung (DROID Charge) as my first phone so I've used ODIN a little but I haven't done any rooting/ROMing on my Note yet.
I'm excited to put Lollipop on my phone but I love WiFi calling so I've been waiting for the Official update. What is the process like to get me from stock rooted KK to stock rooted Lollipop? Should I wait for a stock rooted ROM to be posted so I can flash it? Or should I unroot then update OTA then reroot? Is it better to do a factory reset? As much detail as possible for a Samsung noob would be very appreciated! Thanks.
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Lol as the threads of rooted lollipop roms flood the General section
Enjoy and welcome to the community.