I got this tablet for Christmas a few years ago and it came from Best Buy. Does that mean I have the v500? I think it only got one or two updates from LG and I basically gave it to my daughter so she could watch Netflix. It's been a while so I was wondering if anyone could give me a update of where this tablet is. Are there any decent Nouget roms that are worth installing. This tablet just seems slow and since my daughter uses it for the most part, I was thinking about wiping it and installing something other than the stock rom to see if that would improve performance.
The model of the tablet all bf in Settings / About / Hardware. There are three variants of the G Pad 8.3: VK810, V500 and V510. All other models of G Pads in these sections are something other than the G Pad 8.3.
I put my VK810 back on KitKat because Lollipop 5.0.x is to slow, they never offered 5.1 or 6.x for this variant. All variants are different.
We expect these LG devices will be treated to Nougat soon:
LG G4
LG G5
LG Magna
LG Spirit
LG V10
Source: http://hub.91mobiles.com/android-nougat-update-devices-list/
I just to check at opensource.lge.com but nothing is there yet
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how do you know that??
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The article does say about it.
I don't think so, but i would like it
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While this does sound great, it does sound a bit too great imo. The article doesn't say if it was announced, or even rumoured from the inside - it's just their own speculation. Nevertheless, hope it pans out.
There's no way we're getting Nougat. Also 1GB is a bit too low for Nougat. I hope I'm wrong though. I noticed that they "expect" OP2 and X to get Nougat, but it's widely known by now that they're doomed in terms of official software updates.
I don't think we're getting nougat update at all. They've released many devices after spirit with mm on them ,so they'll prioritize them first and lg never gave more than a single os update to their mid range devices.
LG Stylo 2, that phone got Nougat update, but hw is a bit same with spirit, also there are config files in kernel. They could made it as I was managed to boot Nougat on Spirit! :d
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS129979
This is for g5s+ but the g5+ shouldn't be left far behind
Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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It will still be 32 bit. But we need those blobs yes.
Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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So long as you're prepared for the possibility of major, possibly device breaking bugs and having to be very careful if you wanted to downgrade back to Nougat (we've got enough bricked devices as it is)... It should be fun, just be careful
A jump is nice. Directly to 8.1 Let's see how much time it would take
I disagree that we will see an upgrade in June... Let's break it down a bit as to why:
Honestly, look at the history of the Oreo upgrade for the G5S+, it has been in beta/soak for almost 5 months. It started in late January, I can provide references but Google will work easily enough here if you don't believe me, and there are verified users getting the initial beta in early February. Although I haven't seen a screenshot of the released version, I am told it has the May security update, meaning the final build was likely early to mid-May... So conservatively that process took 4 months from initial beta test to release.
OK, so a tad longer than most Moto upgrades, but not uncommon as anywhere from 30 to 100 days from initial beta/soak to release is normal. We have seen this process be no shorter than 30 days, although 60 would be "typical", but we have seen it take in excess of 8 months (in the case of Nougat for the Moto X Style/Pure before full release, for example).
Now jump to our device, the G5+... there is no confirmed users with a beta or soak yet, not even semi-substantiated or reputable rumors of it occurring yet in ANY market. Not even confirmation of MFN users getting emails to sign up for the beta test. Plug in the previous numbers and we are looking at a release no earlier than late July, but most likely in September and possibly even later.
Again, this is all guess work and looking at history and my personal knowledge through having Moto devices for a very long time, so I could be wrong... in fact, I hope I am wrong.
Plus, let's not forget this device is already 15 months old (released March 2017), and this puts Oreo release at an age of 18+ months, something Lenovo's Moto has done before for devices this age, but also at an age they have cancelled upgrades (not updates) on other devices at this age as well. Although I don't think they will cancel it, it is a remote possibility to keep in mind.
Just my 2 cents worth... take it as you wish.
Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Just curious, what have you seen to show the rollout is happening? I've not seen any OTA reports and the update page for the 8.1 Oreo was taken down (or I can't access it at any rate).
Just Google it (moto g5s plus oreo) and see all the reports from the last 12 hours. Eg BGR, Android Police
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/30/android-8-1-oreo-rolling-moto-g5s-plus/
Edit : seems like the articles reference a Motorola update info page that has since been taken down.
Perhaps it went up prematurely?!
Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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well, at least we know that the 8.1 release note was for a soak test.. so oreo is on it's way and as soon as the soal test leaks you all will be able to install it
Now the thing is what is going to happen with the G5 plus non S?
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
orvon.freeman said:
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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*Maybe coming*
Unfortunately, we have seen these "release notes" posted many times and the associated update never appears on devices.
But since we won't get Oreo for several months, if at all, we will probably see the update.
Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8632026 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277398&postcount=28 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cp...pers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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Oreo is able to run on 32bit systems, as you quoted, it does on the Z Play. As changing from 32 to 64bit needs a complete wipe no OEM will change that with an OTA update. Motorola knew what devices are running which OS and they wouldn't have announced Oreo for Moto G5 and G5+.
Some people just don't have the correct informations.
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Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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by the month of november all our warranties will be over and custom rom's bugs will probably be all fixed.. also treble is in a good development state, so we would not need support from motorola anymore.. i don't think it's worthed waiting that long..
Can someone with access to Android 10 on LG V30 please try Desktop Mode, as it seems to be available in Android 10: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/539056427
This would be so cool! I am currently enjoying something similar (in terms of using the phone on a large screen keyboard mouse etc) with HP Elite X3, but the apps are limited for Windows mobile, so I would rather use the dock which came with HP for my LG V30...
I am currently on Android 9, everything works well so far, I would rather not reinstall everything (by trying Android 10) only to find out that something does not work. The video shows it working on V50, no guarantee that it will work on our V30.
Official android 10 for v30 never happend so...
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Official android 10 for v30 never happend so...
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And never will happen.
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Can someone with access to Android 10 on LG V30 please try Desktop Mode, as it seems to be available in Android 10: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/539056427
This would be so cool! I am currently enjoying something similar (in terms of using the phone on a large screen keyboard mouse etc) with HP Elite X3, but the apps are limited for Windows mobile, so I would rather use the dock which came with HP for my LG V30...
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You are talking about LG stock firmware feature for Android 10. We don't have that and never will.
It's not just vanilla "Android 10". Maybe AOSP devs can add that feature in their "Android 10" ROMs?
I am not a developer, just was able to follow ChazzMat's guide to get Pie and root..
So, if something is not officially provided by LG for V30, it cannot be ported from its younger brother, V50?
I really don't know, is that what you are saying?
I thought lg confirmed android v10 for v30s? Or way it just from some random blog?
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I thought lg confirmed android v10 for v30s? Or way it just from some random blog?
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Yeah, random blog thing where they don't really know what they are talking about. I read that months ago and got excited, then re-read it and realized they didn't quote any LG sources -- it was their own speculation based on flawed reasoning.
LG V30 (all variants) launched with Nougat and get the two OS upgrades LG always gives. Oreo. Pie.
Plus LG signed Google Enterprise Recommended Device agreement which promised 90 day security updates for two years + one OS update. However, that agreement was predicated on being on Oreo. So, that OS update would be Pie. Once on Oreo, we did start getting more timely updates for awhile and now MOST have Pie. (A few still don't.) Maybe once everyone gets on Pie we will start getting 90 day security updates again? But the two year window ends around mid-year 2020, if the clock started once on Oreo.
The flawed reasoning of that blog for Android 10 was because ONE V30 variant was released in 2018 with Oreo: V30S. So, they thought since the 2018 G7 and V40 are getting Android 10, that the V30S would also. NO.
The V30S was a marketing gimmick by LG to try to compete with the early 2018 Galaxy S9/S9+ which had the new Snapdragon 845. Samsung had exclusive rights to that for a few months. So, LG re-released Snapdragon V30+ with 6GB RAM (and Oreo) and tried to claim it was a "new" phone with "ThinQ" AI cam! It wasn't. It was merely V30 updated to Oreo prior to going on sale vs all the other V30 which then got the SAME "ThinQ" Oreo update a couple months later. All V30 on Oreo or later are ThinQ -- V30S was just first. The only difference for the V30S is it has more RAM.
V30S was RELEASED with Oreo already installed -- but was not LAUNCHED with Oreo. If it was LAUNCHED with Oreo it would have Treble. All NEW phones with Oreo (or later) are required to have Treble. V30S does NOT have Treble, nor does any V30 have Treble. Besides the name (V30S) this lack of Treble proves the V30S was an already-existing phone not bound by Oreo requirements for new phones.
Yet, the 2018 G7, V35, V40 all have Treble because they were indeed new phones LAUNCHED with Oreo. Those three phones are eligible for Pie and Android 10. (They already have Pie.)
2018 V30S is a remodeled house, not a brand new house. It's still a V30 "Joan" Snapdragon 835 phone -- a series which LAUNCHED with Nougat and has received all the OS updates promised to it.
Having said that, there's no law that says LG can't give Android 10 to any phone they wish -- V10, V20, V30... But LG doesn't make any money creating, testing, rolling out updates for old phones. They make money selling new phones.
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I am not a developer, just was able to follow ChazzMat's guide to get Pie and root..
So, if something is not officially provided by LG for V30, it cannot be ported from its younger brother, V50?
I really don't know, is that what you are saying?
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Yes, possibly devs can port that LG stock firmware feature to AOSP LOS-17/Android 10 ROMs for the V30.
I'm not a dev either.
Essentially this phone reached its 3rd years anniversary. It doesn't seems there's much ROM development going anymore.
I tried to look if the G5 and G5 Plus ROM are interchangeable. I can't find a concrete answer, but some threads suggested their hardware change render the ROM are not interchangeable due to different device driver.
Is it safe to say the Moto G5 Plus ROM development is finally coming to its end?
I do not think it will arrive yet, the problem is that the Moto G5 Plus is a phone stagnant in what is development in roms, Many communities and groups in Telegram have tried to achieve those that few have achieved, Install GSIs in the G5 Plus, If it ever succeeds, the safest thing is that the development of roms and GSIs will be as great as the beginning.
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Essentially this phone reached its 3rd years anniversary. It doesn't seems there's much ROM development going anymore.
I tried to look if the G5 and G5 Plus ROM are interchangeable. I can't find a concrete answer, but some threads suggested their hardware change render the ROM are not interchangeable due to different device driver.
Is it safe to say the Moto G5 Plus ROM development is finally coming to its end?
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