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I'm not sure where the right place is to put this question.
It's a real question for me, dominated by the fact that the specs look pretty similar (except no. Locked bootloader etx) , but the price will be significantly lower. Of. Course we don't have the facts yet, but I'm holding off until the nexus 6 announcement before pulling the trigger on one of them.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity tablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
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In every Note forum there are always a slew of people who obviously are consumption users that don't need/want/care about all the features that, to me, are what make a Note a "Note."
Here's an interesting survey...
Clearly 35% would be better off without S Pen and 40% wouldn't miss it terribly if it weren't there. For them, like OP, any big screened phone would do.
Here's the current supposed specs of the Nexus 6...
The Nexus 6 is all but a secret at this point with a multitude of leaks telling us everything we needed to know about the handset. The smartphone is expected to be packing a 5.9 inch Quad HD display, a 13-megapixel camera with OIS, 3GB of RAM, a Snapdragon 805 chipset, a refined version of Android L (Android 5.0) and a mammoth 3,300 mAh battery. It could be shown off sometime later this month, possibly during Halloween. Google announced the Nexus 5 quietly during Halloween last year, so there’s no reason why the trend shouldn’t continue this year.
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/10/motorola-nexus-6-hits-fcc-certification-98187#z8pV1eRuP2vkzxdm.97It's pretty close to the Note 4. But... Google's camera's have always sucked, the display will most likely be decent but not fantastic, and battery life will probably be worse because, for some reason, Google has a hard time tuning battery usage on their own phones. Add to that it won't have expandable storage and most likely come in 32/64GB versions. Second but... The 32GB version will probably be $499-549 which undercuts the Note 3 by almost $300 which for those that could care less about S Pen and the faults I listed makes it a great value. That and it'll get updated directly from Google are its two biggest benefits over the Note 4.
My biggest issue so far in thinking about a Nexus 6 (or whatever it will be called) is the fact that Samsung/AT&T has been locking down the Note to the point where they void the warranty as soon as the knox is tripped.
That and the fact that the Note 2 is my third Samsung device and I want to try a different route.
They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Sight unseen I'd bet anyone here the camera's worse, the display not as good, and the battery life poorer. Those traits are more or less "Nexus things" unless something changes this round. Now whether this time with Motorola it's different is a wild card. But there were a ton of issues with the first Moto X when it came out (I don't know if they all got resolved, I don't follow Motorola). And a potentially huge not "the same" is the lack of external storage. Want to show off full res vids on that spiffy new QHD display? You better have a 128GB external MicroSD, be on an old AT&T unlimited plan, or get on the "pay for 15GB, get 30GB" plan before it expires. I'm not bashing the Nexus 6 (especially because you can't bash vapor ) just saying they've never been the "same." Where they win hands down is value and that probably won't change this round.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Stock Android and Touchwiz are the same? I'm sorry, but I don't agree. At all.
IMO, the two devices can't be more different.
I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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Yeah bro, I can almost bet anything that the Note 4 screen will kill the Nexus 6 screen. Not only are Nexus screens of lower quality compared to the competition (to cut costs), but it will also most likely be a LCD. Which I don't like compared to SAMOLED anyway.
I'm curious to see which direction you go, but the Note 4 is a killer package. I have played with it a few times at my local Best Buy.
Good luck!
I have gone into so many best buys to try out the Note 4 and I think it's lovely. ( I wouldn't buy the edge as I think it will be difficult to sell 2nd hand down the road.) But sometimes I need a change (and frankly the 4 is not that different to my Note 3). I'm sure I will buy both... But, Highlander, there can be only one (and as I mentioned above Sammy has won every other battle)...
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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DING DING DING. We have a winner!
It is puzzling to me that people are asking about Moto X and crap vs. a Note 4.
The Note 4 is an S pen enhanced phablet, half the questions are about plain old stock large screen phones. Different audience for the most part. I imagine there are people that will buy the Note 4 just for the size and never touch the things that make it what it is.
Go see nexus 6 section as there is a great discussion on Note 4 v Nexus 6
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Honestly not sure if anyone else feels this way so I'm curious what the rest of the At&t Note 4 community has to say...specifically on this...I mean two very important sensors got replaced for a fingerprint sensor and a heartbeat monitor that when you have a case on both are hard to use like it becomes pointless...which I think they are both too early in development to actually lose a humidity and temp sensor which alot of apps like to grab ahold of and becomes kind of important...the restriction is killer almost like I don't want it anymore honestly no root locked bootloader...can't do that for as long as I have been let alone alot longer...the camera has alot of gimmicks in it but does have a little better camera itself just think the software is horrible...I will say the pixel difference is there though and the screen is wonderful...it does have the lastest snapdragon which i like its the only reason why I still wanna hold it honestly...the battery is like a huge noticeable difference it decays alot faster then the three did and the phone does warm up alot more I think it has alot to do with the snapdragon the screen and the software layout like there is a lot of white when there doesn't need to be and the teal menu &!*# kills me I can't stand it there are alot of s5 layouts and even apps on here that they tried to hide but don't even work almost like they ported the s5 to the note 4 with minor changes it sucks ...but is that worth it over the note 3 I replaced it with I don't think it is....it think maybe a tmobile version of this phone would be worth replacing my at&t note 3 maybe thats a maybe its like they just through something together and sent it out because apple has a new i phone they need to compete with but it needs work i think it got put out to early...but this is definitely not worth it...just my opinion I'm curious what others feel...if it was a loss or a gain...
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I am coming from the Note 3 and I am loving the 4. The screen is amazing, I find battery life even better that the 3. Definitely more responsive with the 805 Snapdragon. I have the Ringke Slim case which allows me to still use the heart monitor with no issues. I find the fingerprint sensor to be a nice option. I personally don't mind the teal settings menu since I just don't interact that much with the menu. I also really liked the Note 3
I always believed that somebody who own a Galaxy Note should wait at least two year period for upgraded.
Hardware jump is not as impressive as the Note 3 and quite frankly, Samsung is really becoming insistent that the better value of the device is it ecosystem and built-in app.
So any one who are still owning a Note 3, don't feel the rush to upgrading, you are fin at least until Note 5 has something better to offer.
2.5D glass makes the device a dream to use when swiping from the edges of the display.I went from the note 2 to the M7 to the Note 3 to the M8 to the Note 4 and I think it's worth it but I'm a early adopter/ enthusiast type of guy
Both phones are great and indeed very similar, but the Note 4 just kills it on camera which blows it out of the park.
Battery life for me has been better with Note 4 ever since I killed the bloatware (compared to N3).
Seriously though, the camera... It's not even about pixel count at all, it's the optical image stabilization and wider field of view... Incredibly more capable as a walk-around point 'n shoot. The glass seems to capture a sharper and wider image. This has nothing to do with pixel count. Numbers only tell you so much... Image quality tells you everything
IMO, it depends. My Note 3 running DynamicKat was pretty much just as fast as the Note 4, plus I had all the other benefits of being rooted. Honestly, I've been using the Note 4 since it came out but I find a reason I missed my Note 3 everyday......
EXCEPT! IMO, the "Quick Charge" is the biggest reason to get the Note 4. I'm no longer caring about my battery life. Seriously, I LOVE that feature.
I came from the note 3, and love the note 4. I will, however, return this one, and buy the t-mobile one. That way I can root.
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Two very important sensors got replaced for a fingerprint sensor and a heartbeat monitor
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Here's the Note 3 sensors...
Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, temperature, humidity
And the Note 4's...
Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, UV, heart rate, SpO2 (blood oxygen)
So UV, heart rate, and blood oxygen replaced temperature and humidity. I'd guess how "very important" the swap is depends on individual use cases. Out of curiosity, how did the loss of temperature and humidity sensors impact what you do with your phone?
No root locked bootloader
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It's the new "normal." Look what Google themselves is doing with 5.0. Two years ago I'd say about 75% of my circle of friends and associates rooted their phones. Today it's about 25%. Anyone connecting to a company network can't use a "tampered" phone. And it's not a physical restriction, it's the security document you sign that says using a tampered device to connect to the company network is an instant terminable offense. So T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloaders (they don't do a lot of national account business either) but that's going to become the exception not the rule. I haven't been able to use a rooted device in over a year based on the networks I need to connect to.
The camera has alot of gimmicks in it but does have a little better camera itself just think the software is horrible...
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You're pretty much alone in your opinion. You give up nothing from the Note 3 and gain a lot. And that's according to people on the forum and reviewers.
The battery is like a huge noticeable difference it decays alot faster then the three did
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Set up exactly like my Note 3, I'm getting 25-35% better battery life on my Note 4. So are a lot of other people here.
The phone does warm up alot more I think it has alot to do with the snapdragon
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When doing what? I haven't noticed any difference in heat output; at least the way I use my phone.
The screen and the software layout like there is a lot of white when there doesn't need to be and the teal menu &!*# kills me
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I can't stand it there are alot of s5 layouts and even apps on here that they tried to hide but don't even work almost like they ported the s5 to the note 4 with minor changes it sucks
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The Note 3's over a year old and so is its interface. The SGS5 is six months old and was Samsung's first effort to streamline and flatten TW and move to a more contemporary UX design and colors. The Note 4's s/w looks far more modern and has much better stock app integration than the Note 3's. I think you'll find it hard to find people that want to go back to a UX design that was already dated when the N3 launched. UI and UX design is also subjective.
Battery is better than GN3. It has to be some bloat were, if you have a poor battery life, an Index Service bug, for example. GN4 is substantially faster not only based on the CPU speed, but also on a faster memory controller. Definitely better and faster camera, brighter screen for outdoor use.
I got the Note 4, for me the upgrade was worth it including the other sensors. I would defiantly upgrade if you have the option through the Next program, if you're going to have to pay retail, not worth it.
I was rooted on my Note 3, but I have disabled all AT&T apps and have the exact same setup with Nova Prime on my Note 4. Hands down, this is a better device in terms of screen, camera, and for me most importantly BATTERY LIFE! My Note 3 was running stock rom with root because I have AT&T versions. The biggest eater of my battery life was Android Wear with my Moto 360. It literally sucked the life out of my Note 3 where it would only last barely a day - it was pretty bad. Also, I've owned every Note since the first one came out. I had a black Note 1 and people were shocked by how big it was when it first came out. I then got a white Note 2 (I truly loved this phone - it was rooted with the best rom = CLEANROM). The white Note 3 that replaced it was decent. Now, I'm back to all black with a Ringke Slim Black Soft Feel case. The battery life just doesn't seem to want to drop at all, lol. Even the stock pull down doesn't bother me as others have said. I still have it pretty customized using light manager and Textra, etc. I used Helium to restore all my app data perfectly. I highly recommend the Note 4. However, like others have noted, it's probably best to get the Tmobile version if you have the money and root it and use it on AT&T. The only reason I stuck with AT&T is because my friend has a hook up (I got my phone really early) and the amount just factors into my bill through the Next program so it's cheaper overall.
I was heading towards the Nexus 6 but with the debacle today I think I will go for the note 4. Your comments were very helpful.
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2.5D glass?
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2.5D glass makes the device a dream to use when swiping from the edges of the display.I went from the note 2 to the M7 to the Note 3 to the M8 to the Note 4 and I think it's worth it but I'm a early adopter/ enthusiast type of guy
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its the edge your talking about right? or something like the 3D glass you out on?
I went from the Note 2 to the Note 4, and honestly, I would still call this an incremental upgrade. That's not a knock on the phone, merely an observation on the state of the technology in this category.
The screen is much better, but the speed increases are negligible, the software is not significantly improved, the stylus actually feels cheaper and a step back though I have not used it enough to make a call on functionality. I did not spend any time with the Note 3, but this is actually (IMO) less comfortable to hold vs the Note 2 due to the "squared" design.
I was skeptical of upgrading, but I had numerous hardware issues after two years with the Note 2 that really forced my hand into upgrading now. If you're OK with your Note 2 or 3, then pocket the cash or donate a portion to me and wait for the next big thing. Wow. That was not intentional.
I was thinking about passing note 4 cuz I had a Note 3 (rooted) . The screen is amazing and my battery is absurdly insane awesome on the note 4 . I'm a moderate user to heavy use and haven't got battery below 75 % . I'm impressed !
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I came from my wonderful rooted Note 3 running urdroid rom to this amazing specimen of a phone.
snappiness
camera quality
screen quality
s-health coolness
Sheer power to carve up commands effortlessly
battery life
quick charge
These are all things that I consider more than just marginal improvements over my Note 3. I honestly never thought I would be using touchwiz. I'm the guy that automatically goes and installs nova prime without batting an eye. I'm going two week strong on touchwiz and loving it. The spen integration is improved. I like the new wrinkles around being able to manipulate windows and apps in bubbles and such. I pledged for root because the one thing that I don't like on stock is the fact that I have no real control over how cluttered my notification area gets up top. Give me root with wanam exposed and I am one happy camper.
It may be gimmicky bit I like being able to gauge my stress level. I measured my stress level and my wife's at the same time one evening. We had both just gotten home from work. She was clearly stressed while I had what I thought was a low stress day. The measurement was on point. This phone is making me utilize s-health more than ever before and I like that. I run a lot and count calories so it comes in handy.
All things considered, rooted or not, this is one helluva piece of technology.
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its the edge your talking about right? or something like the 3D glass you out on?
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it's the rounded edges of the glass,yes
It is probably worth the upgrade but not until Note 4 has root. I couldn't give up my custom roms
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Also coming from the Note 3... And I'm still on it.
Note 4 is in its box until the wifi issue is fixed. Any B, G, N network speed is horrible. AC Seems fine though but I travel a lot and AC is new and expensive, no where is going to have it so its unacceptable for me.
Its really not an upgrade, its like getting an iPhone 4 S from a 4 or a 5 S from a 5. Yeah the cameras are a bit better, but that's about it in all honesty. Hating Kit Kat.
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Both phones are great and indeed very similar, but the Note 4 just kills it on camera which blows it out of the park.
Battery life for me has been better with Note 4 ever since I killed the bloatware (compared to N3).
Seriously though, the camera... It's not even about pixel count at all, it's the optical image stabilization and wider field of view... Incredibly more capable as a walk-around point 'n shoot. The glass seems to capture a sharper and wider image. This has nothing to do with pixel count. Numbers only tell you so much... Image quality tells you everything
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How did you kill the bloatware if not Rooted?
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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I basically think your making a mistake iphone suck my friend traded his iPhone 6 plus for the note 4 so if i was you stay with the note 4.
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So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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Very easy, my GF (super Apple believer, always had Macs and iPhones) got an iPhone 6 of course and she can't regret it more. She's even been considering getting an android phone! Which is absolutely crazy for her.
Bottom line, you'll regret it. Sounds like you are an android veteran so I don't need to list here why it's infinitely better than iOS, even on a non-rooted phone.
Heck, if you can't live without root get a different Android phone! Or a rootable Note 4! There's plenty to choose from, don't fall far Apple's fake charm, besides the company now is at its lowest point ever.
Again, you'll regret it for sure!
oh, how I love the "talk me out of switching to an iphone" threads [/sarcasm]
If you're going to switch, just do it. You dont need anyone to talk you into or out of it. You can make your own decisions.
The IPhone 6 will be so boring for you! Just a stupid app drawer with barely any customization available. Unless you use Mac for everything else I can't imagine why you would want to be stuck in that ecosystem. Have you tried just carrying your phone naked in your pocket or use a pouch case? I use a leather wallet case and it fits my front pocket perfectly and I don't even need to carry a wallet anymore. You will also miss the screen, I promise you. I watched a 4k video in YouTube right next to my buddies iPhone 6 and it was no contest. The only other reason i can think of to switch is the better slow motion video, but that's literally it! Don't do it buddy, stay on the light side!
I had an iPhone, first one was the 5. As soon as I started using it I thought, wow, I get it! I could see why so many people like them. After a few months though, I started getting bored and frustrated by little limitations, mainly the lack of user adjustable settings both system wide and per app. So, I switched back to Android. I can't talk you out of an iPhone, because it's a great device, just not for me. The only way you can know if it's right for you is if you try it. Personally, it's my opinion that HTC makes the best phone you can buy.
If you're looking for a smaller phone, I'd look into the lg g3 or the xperia z3 compact. Both are great phones that I'd honestly pick up over the iphone 6.
Just do it traitor. Who needs to convince you. You are your own person. Jeez
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So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.
My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)
I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.
These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.
I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.
I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.
Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
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Dude im 19 but turning 20 on the 20th of this month and have been with android since after my first phone the iPhone 3G. Since then -> HTC One X -> LG G Flex -> SGN4 all on AT&T. Everyone else in my family is using iphones from iPhone 5C's to iPhones 6's. I'm the odd guy out but I'm the guy who is like you. I root my phones when I can and I compile android roms for them as well when I can. I brought aokp 4.4.2 for the HOXL for example the first one to do that even beat official aokp upon release. But even without root Android has loads more too offer than iTunes app store especially if your a developer. Also one reason thats major to stick with the Galaxy Note 4 is for the Gear VR. Freaking oculus rift portable basically and vr gaming and cinema. Also its Quad HD 551 something DPI display. <- AnTuTu says it has 641 or something DPI I think specs are wrong from what is mentioned. I think AnTuTu is right. Also Galaxy Note 4 is using Gorilla Glass 4 . Also microSD card slot = expand storage up to 128 GB totaling to 160 GB's. Using SD card storage for movies music , utorrent (tv series etc.) Move app data to sdcard to increase storage and when we get root move entire apps to sd cards swap apps etc. You can also have camera save pictures and videos to ext sd card. We get android lollipop soon either end of this month most likely January. Also Note 4 is awarded with best color recreation read it multiple websites blogs etc. A stylus and optical image stabilization 4k video recording at 60 FPS! in UHD which I have it auto save to micro sd card then transfer vids and pics to pc. I have over 300 apps on my Note 4 and 4 HD movies and 800 songs downloaded from spotify. Several multi gb games. Because i transfer app data to sd card that im fine with them not working temporarily while sdcard it out and in my pc. Apps are back after the fact. When root does come out it will be the best phone ever #Note that it already isn;t! Swappable battery 3220 mah fast charge is legit! If you want to root now really bad get a tablet I recommend the nexus 9. >.< And check out the thread root progress note 4 att and someone is working on root for AT&T note 4 and seems close, just takes time and patience and we will have root and then customization and the best hardware and software.
Edit:: sorry for the typos typed in 50 seconds. busy. saw this had 2 respond
If you like iOS just switch. You've used Android before so you should be aware what you're leaving behind, so there shouldn't be a need for anyone to convince you to stay with Android.
My GF has been an iphone user since the first iphone, all the way up to the 5c. She had major problems with her last iPhone (5c) and she still planned on uograding to the 6+. I talked her into getting a Note 4, and she couldn't be happier. She had played with her friends android phone a couple years ago, a cheap entry level htc, and that left a bad taste in her mouth. She thought that was the experience involved with all android phones. Now that she has a flagship android device, she's all android and not looking back to ios.
Just switch, iPhones are great, easy to use and smooth ui I still love iPhones even though I'm on a note 4 and my wife is on yhr galaxy s5, the s5 is the perfect size phone, I'm starting to regret my note, too bulky and no root... I will really regret it if there is never going to be a root...
or have them both, that's why I carry both of my note 4 and an ipodtouch 5th gen with me all the time, same ios function,updated ios, with facetime, I just use mobile hotspot tethering on my note 4 to supply net to my ipod though whenever I need it
People bash the iPhone but I had a 6 Plus and a 6 and they are wonderful phones. Yeah its not customizable and blah blah blah but regardless they are excellent device and the kind of set it and forget it device. You get updates quickly and you don't have it wait around for an update to hit your device. Apps are optimized way better for ios. It just depends on what your needs are. I switched back to the Note 4 because expandable memory is a big thing for me and the certain features. There is nothing more smooth than an ios device so dont let people sway you into thinking the iPhone is a bad device. Your always going to get that answer on xda.
Remember that if you want the better resolution screen you need the 6plus which has the true 1080p screen. The 6plus also has an estimated battery life of about 24 hours tall time 16 stand by time, the screen resolution is 1920x1080 at 401ppi and it's there retina display so there's that,
the note 4 has 23 hours talk and 14 hours standby, it has a 2560x1440 resolution screen with 515ppi,
both have finger print recognition both have NFC with a mobile wallet, depending on where you live mobile wallet might not even matter yet, both are large thin phones.
The iPhone 6plus 16gig is 300$ on contract with att, the note 4 32gig is 300$ as well.
I sell these phones all day, the iPhone 6 is a hell of a lot more popular than the 6plus, the note 4 gets some love but with Samsung not really marketing as hard as apple it's a slow sell, both are amazing phones but I prefer the "freedom" of my note 4, keep in mind I phones are all jailbreak able at this moment where as we have nothing but stock , this is not to speculate what we MAY have in the future. This is a here and now comparison of the facts for each phone, not speculation or opinion. That is why processor and memory are not brought up, in real world use it depends on what you do to really know if one is better than the other...
So there's your reasoning, go ahead and pick
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Chromecast, Gear vr, sd cards, more options for 3rd party accessories, ir blaster, Samsung phones are easier to fix. More apps. S-pen, better multi tasking features. 2k display, better hardware. Idk Last Iphone I had was a 3g. I'm not sure how much they've improved the os.
Nahh i have an iPhone 5s and it's solid but I don't see myself being able to handle it as my daily phone regardless of screen size. I just use it as an ipod or if my battery runs out on my note 4 i can just switch very temporarily
The only thing I have to say about switching over to any other device other then the note series is "S-pen". If you use it a lot, trust me you will miss it.
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True I had the OnePlus One and I did miss the S-pen. I also missed the Super Amoled screen. As well as the ir blaster. Note 4 is sexy. People are always checking mine out.
Just go iPhone you will love it.
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My Note 8 is starting to get old, and I would love to upgrade it to higher resolution and more storage, but keeping it about the same size. Until now I haven't found any possible replacements with an active pen, but this might be one:
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pro-slate-8/
Do any of you have any opinions on this as a possible replacements? It's a different pen technology so that concerns me, but it if works as well with Lecture Notes it should be good enough. If it has more offset or more lag, it would drive me nuts. I know ROMs are unlikely, but since I use it as a BYOD work device I can't root it anyway, so thar shouldn't matter. We're not getting updates on our device either so no difference if this one doesn't either.
What do you think? Worth buying or should I wait?
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Some ideas:
Nvidia Shield (Android 5)
Lenovo ThinkPad 8 (Windows 8.1)
Toshiba Encore 2 Write (Windows 8.1)
Asus Vivo Tab Note 8 (Windows 8.1)
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Some ideas:
Nvidia Shield (Android 5)
Lenovo ThinkPad 8 (Windows 8.1)
Toshiba Encore 2 Write (Windows 8.1)
Asus Vivo Tab Note 8 (Windows 8.1)
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Thanks, but those won't work for me since I'm looking to continue to use an active pen and Lecture Notes. The Nvidia pen has a rubber tip, it doesn't look good for writing in very small print which is 99% of what I need it for, otherwise that might be an option. Windows tablets are not an option for me as my company won't allow them on our BYOD plan (yet). So the only option I've found so far is this HP tablet, but I'm not sure about that one either so I'm looking to see what people think about it, especially if people notice potential issues with it.
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Wait for the upgraded note 8.
Never go with windows 8.1 8 inch tablet, it have terrible scaling and reading through is a pain in the arse with high resolution. Android still the one with best scaling.
Another option is HP's Pro Slate 8, though i dont know about battery life with that resolution & availability+price unless u living in the us.
I am in the US and considering the HP tablet, but would wait for an upgraded Note 8 if there was a sign of Samsung actually continuing it. It's been over two years since our tablet was released so I'm losing faith that it will have a successor. Are there any rumors of a nww Note 8?
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My Note 8 is starting to get old, and I would love to upgrade it to higher resolution and more storage, but keeping it about the same size. Until now I haven't found any possible replacements with an active pen, but this might be one:
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pro-slate-8/
Do any of you have any opinions on this as a possible replacements? It's a different pen technology so that concerns me, but it if works as well with Lecture Notes it should be good enough. If it has more offset or more lag, it would drive me nuts. I know ROMs are unlikely, but since I use it as a BYOD work device I can't root it anyway, so thar shouldn't matter. We're not getting updates on our device either so no difference if this one doesn't either.
What do you think? Worth buying or should I wait?
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Wrong forum, maybe.
kisrita said:
I am in the US and considering the HP tablet, but would wait for an upgraded Note 8 if there was a sign of Samsung actually continuing it. It's been over two years since our tablet was released so I'm losing faith that it will have a successor. Are there any rumors of a nww Note 8?
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HP Pro Slate 8 might seem to be a very good choice if you couldnt wait for note 8 successor. High end spec, high resolution display & that HP duet pen technology. Still, not sure if it's using wacom or n-trig digitizer or proprietory one. Im worried if some app doesnt support pressure registration through its digitizer. But nonetheless seem pretty good enough
Sony Xperia Z3TC - SGP621
kisrita said:
My Note 8 is starting to get old, and I would love to upgrade it to higher resolution and more storage, but keeping it about the same size. Until now I haven't found any possible replacements with an active pen, but this might be one:
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pro-slate-8/
Do any of you have any opinions on this as a possible replacements? It's a different pen technology so that concerns me, but it if works as well with Lecture Notes it should be good enough. If it has more offset or more lag, it would drive me nuts. I know ROMs are unlikely, but since I use it as a BYOD work device I can't root it anyway, so thar shouldn't matter. We're not getting updates on our device either so no difference if this one doesn't either.
What do you think? Worth buying or should I wait?
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Hi,
Please try Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact SGP 621 LTE model (this is one of the models that has SIM capability)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...oliid=I29M436THUKIIJ&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl
RAM:3GB
Display: 8 inch FHD
16 GB inbuilt memory with microSD card slot
Snapdragon 801 Adreno 330
Bluetooth v4.0
WIFI
4G LTE
Camera - 8 MP and 2 MP
Battery 4500
NFC
Nano - Sim
OS - Kitkat (it came with kitkat for me)
Build Quality - Amazing and it is thin but still feels great in your hands.
Stylus - doesn't come with stylus like Note 8.0 but ....
1) Display is pretty nice.
2) Sound quality is good. (after rooting viper4android works great)
3) It is much lighter than Note 8.0 and you can feel the difference when you use the tablet.
4) Bluetooth and WIFI are fast and stable.
5) Camera is decent, good for a tablet.
6) it has ps4 remote play which allows you to connect to your playstation using wifi something similar to Nvidia Shield does.
7) Battery life is brilliant (outstanding results even without using power saving mode)
Android lollipop works great on Sony Z3TC. It is extremely smooth.I use my tablet daily and I can tell you that it won't give you any headaches or problems. So you are rest assured that you wont find any lag. 3GB of RAM along with Android Lollipop 5.0.2 is really a great combination on this tablet. Currently I am using rooted android 5.0.2 on mine. And I am using 64GB microSD card. I think it might support even more.
I understand you want stylus. Even I was looking for tablets with stylus that has all around capabilities like Note 8.0 which is a champion and unique device. But I wasn't convinced with the tablets available until I found Sony Xperia Z3TC. Other than stylus Sony xperia Z3TC does everything else brilliantly.
I don't have Nano sim nor I have access to 4G LTE but from other user reviews it is evident that there are many satisfied customers who reported good 4G/LTE performance.
My Note 8.0 is more than 2 years old ( bought it in June 2013) and till today it is still gives me around 9 hours of SOT in 4 days on an average. My Sony Xperia Z3TC is giving me between 9.5 to 11 of SOT on one single charge in 5/6 days without using power saving mode.Both tablets are absolutely brilliant.Samsung got it right with Note 8.0 and Sony with Z3TC.You can get any where between 9.5 to 11 hours of SOT in 4 to 8 days .You can check in Sony xperia z3 tablet compact section on XDA almost every member will report similar or better results. Some guys are even getting 6 and half hours of SOT at 50%. It is an excellent device for video playback and music.I love both the tablets.
Here is the link to my post where I have attached some screenshots of the battery life of my Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact.
Click Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59898395
And regarding stylus I feel we can try to get a stylus separately because this tablet is too good to be ignored.
I would highly recommend Sony xperia Z3TC to anyone who is looking for an excellent tablet successor to our beloved Note 8.0. So please have a look at the link I mentioned above. You won't be disappointed. Sony xperia Z3TC has 5/5 rating on amazon and even with the critics.
It is worth a look especially with a price tag of 489$ from a branded company like Sony.
Cheers!
It's looking like there will not be a next generation Note 8. We'll be forced to choose between a mid range tablet with an S pen (Tab A Plus) or a high end tablet without a stylus (S2).
My N5100, is wearing out (as my primary phone, it's been dropped a few too many times). But I haven't seen the international Tab A 8.0 S Pen variant with LTE for sale yet. I hope it's released soon!
OMG! This device fans can't seem to move one.
I'm also waiting for it's successor.. The S-pen is amazing
Well, I can't find a good replacement too, so I decided my Note 8 will stay with me some more time: I have just changed the battery and now it's ready for 2 more years of hard work
gabripranzo said:
Well, I can't find a good replacement too, so I decided my Note 8 will stay with me some more time: I have just changed the battery and now it's ready for 2 more years of hard work
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lol yea gyess I'll do the same
gabripranzo said:
Well, I can't find a good replacement too, so I decided my Note 8 will stay with me some more time: I have just changed the battery and now it's ready for 2 more years of hard work
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My battery is dying and I was curious where you got the battery from (which site). I've cracked the case before so I'm assuming that it's a pretty easy install. Thanks!
esoh said:
My battery is dying and I was curious where you got the battery from (which site). I've cracked the case before so I'm assuming that it's a pretty easy install. Thanks!
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I got it from a local (I live in Italy) seller using eBay.
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www.ebay.it/itm/batteria-SP3770E1H-...1?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_101&hash=item3aaced82db
kisrita said:
My Note 8 is starting to get old, and I would love to upgrade it to higher resolution and more storage, but keeping it about the same size. Until now I haven't found any possible replacements with an active pen, but this might be one:
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pro-slate-8/
Do any of you have any opinions on this as a possible replacements? It's a different pen technology so that concerns me, but it if works as well with Lecture Notes it should be good enough. If it has more offset or more lag, it would drive me nuts. I know ROMs are unlikely, but since I use it as a BYOD work device I can't root it anyway, so thar shouldn't matter. We're not getting updates on our device either so no difference if this one doesn't either.
What do you think? Worth buying or should I wait?
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http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/tab-a/SM-P550NZKABTU
It has a terrible screen resolution.
In the 2 years I've owned an N5100, I've grown dependent on the S Pen. I have not been looking forward to replacing it, but I knew it would be necessary so I bought the Tab A Plus (stylus + cellular radio). It just arrived, so I'm still in the process of setting it up and making comparisons between the two. Physically they're almost identical in size, though the A is thinner than the 8. Stylistically, the A is made out of plastic, but its looks mimic the iPad. The screen is decent (but the A and 8 don't hold a candle to current hi res tablets). The S Pen pulls some tricks from the current Note phones that were never brought to the 8. Based on my experience so far, I'd say it's a suitable replacement for those that must have a stylus.
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In the 2 years I've owned an N5100, I've grown dependent on the S Pen. I have not been looking forward to replacing it, but I knew it would be necessary so I bought the Tab A Plus (stylus + cellular radio). It just arrived, so I'm still in the process of setting it up and making comparisons between the two. Physically they're almost identical in size, though the A is thinner than the 8. Stylistically, the A is made out of plastic, but its looks mimic the iPad. The screen is decent (but the A and 8 don't hold a candle to current hi res tablets). The S Pen pulls some tricks from the current Note phones that were never brought to the 8. Based on my experience so far, I'd say it's a suitable replacement for those that must have a stylus.
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Any more thoughts on this, now you've had it a month?
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Any more thoughts on this, now you've had it a month?
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Overall, I still like the Tab A. There are some things which can't be changed. The screen's aspect ratio is different and a few of my apps don't look good. S-Pen input is not precise as the Note- its fine for writing but won't generate the fine art that was able to be produced on the Note. The camera is not as good wrt no voice commands and colors are not as true. The headphone jack is now on the bottom (why?!?).
There are a few annoyances related to Lollipop and/or how it integrates with Touchwiz. The ability for the app drawer to list items alphabetically is gone. I fixed this by installing Apex launcher. There's now a high volume warning popup (common on many devices, but the Note didn't have it). The Samsung dialer apk does something weird which launches two keypads. Even worse, it requires double tapping during a phone call. From what I've read online, this isn't an issue on all Samsung devices (it may not even be an issue on all Tab A), but it is on mine. Fixing this will require root, which I haven't done yet.
On the positive side, S-Note is more flexible. I really like air control, particularly action memo. Battery life is good and the battery manager app has two power saving modes. The thinner bezels make the Tab A look sleek and modern, although my thumbs occasionally make inadvertent inputs.
afblangley said:
Overall, I still like the Tab A. There are some things which can't be changed. The screen's aspect ratio is different and a few of my apps don't look good. S-Pen input is not precise as the Note- its fine for writing but won't generate the fine art that was able to be produced on the Note. The camera is not as good wrt no voice commands and colors are not as true. The headphone jack is now on the bottom (why?!?).
There are a few annoyances related to Lollipop and/or how it integrates with Touchwiz. The ability for the app drawer to list items alphabetically is gone. I fixed this by installing Apex launcher. There's now a high volume warning popup (common on many devices, but the Note didn't have it). The Samsung dialer apk does something weird which launches two keypads. Even worse, it requires double tapping during a phone call. From what I've read online, this isn't an issue on all Samsung devices (it may not even be an issue on all Tab A), but it is on mine. Fixing this will require root, which I haven't done yet.
On the positive side, S-Note is more flexible. I really like air control, particularly action memo. Battery life is good and the battery manager app has two power saving modes. The thinner bezels make the Tab A look sleek and modern, although my thumbs occasionally make inadvertent inputs.
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That's very useful thanks. I think I'll stay with my note 8 for now. I was intrigued by the tab a with s pen though
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Want to know if it is worth upgrading from the note 5 to note 7? If so Why??
In my opinion it's not worth it.. Almost same design. I think the battery will not be better too. The only pro thing is that the note 7 is waterproof.
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Yes.
Edge screen looks nice and futuristic and clearly is the way to go for Samsung flagships moving forward.
Waterpoof.
Much better cameras.
Easier to hold one-handed.
Design so much better, very compact for a 5.7" screen phone.
Better battery.
USB type C.
Iris scanner not needed but still cool.
Micro SD card support with the possibility of using it as adoptable storage.
Only downside is it's expensive.
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Forgot to mention that you can also set the screen to 1080p to save substantial battery life if you can't really see the difference between it and 4k. You can even set to 720p if you want.
I feel like the note 5 and S6 were a step in the right direction design wise, and still have great features when it comes to the hardware. If you don't plan on getting your phone wet and have enough internal storage then I wouldn't upgrade. If you like to store a lot on your phone that's the only reason I would upgrade if I were you. Otherwise the camera is still top of the line, the fingerprint scanner is fast& secure, and the phone still has the premium look and feel.
Yes for the sd card slot if nothing else.
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Is worth. Read this: Galaxy Note7 OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out
I am still on a note 3 so for me it's a no brainer.but someone with a 5 they should wait unless you really need the SD card.
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busventinc said:
I am still on a note 3 so for me it's a no brainer.but someone with a 5 they should wait unless you really need the SD card.
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I will buy (as n5 battery is its weakest feature) but depending on what the v20 delivers I may well sell it soon after!
Sharpshooterrr said:
Yes.
Edge screen looks nice and futuristic and clearly is the way to go for Samsung flagships moving forward.
Waterpoof.
Much better cameras.
Easier to hold one-handed.
Design so much better, very compact for a 5.7" screen phone.
Better battery.
USB type C.
Iris scanner not needed but still cool.
Micro SD card support with the possibility of using it as adoptable storage.
Only downside is it's expensive.
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Forgot to mention that you can also set the screen to 1080p to save substantial battery life if you can't really see the difference between it and 4k. You can even set to 720p if you want.
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4k? I thought it was 1440! But anyway imo it's not worth it at all. What do you gain? Do you have a problem with note 5? If it's performance related note 7 is likely the same or if it's thr purple smudge
kamranhaghighi said:
4k? I thought it was 1440! But anyway imo it's not worth it at all. What do you gain? Do you have a problem with note 5? If it's performance related note 7 is likely the same or if it's thr purple smudge
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Yes, what I meant was 2k, not 4k, lol.
No purple smudge on my Note5. No real problem with Note5 except the very limited 32gb storage, which I obviously knew about before buying. I thought it was going to be enough, I was wrong.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Yes, what I meant was 2k, not 4k, lol.
No purple smudge on my Note5. No real problem with Note5 except the very limited 32gb storage, which I obviously knew about before buying. I thought it was going to be enough, I was wrong.
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I actually made a thread although now i regret it because I thought the phone is released but it seems it's still not out yet! But they said the same thing about note 4 and ot does have it. Are you sure? Have you checked in gallery? Maybe the picture you check is bright! How about lag or delays. When you compare it next to a nexus or an iPhone.is it smooth?
kamranhaghighi said:
I actually made a thread although now i regret it because I thought the phone is released but it seems it's still not out yet! But they said the same thing about note 4 and ot does have it. Are you sure? Have you checked in gallery? Maybe the picture you check is bright! How about lag or delays. When you compare it next to a nexus or an iPhone.is it smooth?
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Yea my pretty sure my Note5 doesn't have that issue.
About lag, are you asking about the Note7? With my brief time with it in the store, I can say there aren't any lags but of course it may be different when we're actually using it as our own.
To put it in perspective, what motivation will Nexus 6P owners have to upgrade to the 2016 version? It'll have generationally better h/w but what else? Especially considering the OS is/was/will be the same on both devices. Hardware and software has matured so the generational differences between devices get smaller each year. Unless you're a big gamer what apps are going to be noticeably faster between Exynos 7420 and 8890 or Snapdragon 810 and 820? If you want a Note7 and feel like spending the money, get it. If not I'm guessing 90% of what you do on your phone would perform just as well on a Note5. I've personally given up on rationalizing getting a new phone every year. I just chalk it up to a whim because I like the latest and greatest.
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To put it in perspective, what motivation will Nexus 6P owners have to upgrade to the 2016 version? It'll have generationally better h/w but what else? Especially considering the OS is/was/will be the same on both devices. Hardware and software has matured so the generational differences between devices get smaller each year. Unless you're a big gamer what apps are going to be noticeably faster between Exynos 7420 and 8890 or Snapdragon 810 and 820? If you want a Note7 and feel like spending the money, get it. If not I'm guessing 90% of what you do on your phone would perform just as well on a Note5. I've personally given up on rationalizing getting a new phone every year. I just chalk it up to a whim because I like the latest and greatest.
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Me also.
Nothing to rationize really, if I want a new device i buy one its not like I need to make a list of pluses and minuses or try to justify it..thats ridiculous its a phone not a car. Not a really major expense lol.
In this particular case though for me going from note 5 i do really want the SD support the 7 offers.
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I gave up on the note 5 along time ago mainly because of the poor battery life, I went to the s7e and battery is much better. I really like the s7e but will be getting a note 7 as soon as it's out to test the loser will be the back up phone
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I upgraded from Note 5 to Note 7 couple of days ago. I am very fond of the Note 7, except the external speaker audio quality. It so high pitched and lacks bass. Note 5 sound is waaaay better and louder
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Abu-khulzat said:
I upgraded from Note 5 to Note 7 couple of days ago. I am very fond of the Note 7, except the external speaker audio quality. It so high pitched and lacks bass. Note 5 sound is waaaay better and louder
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Thats due to the water resistance likely, which for myself is pointless as i am not stupid enough to use my device in a wet enviroment.
I would much rather ditch that and have far better audio quality. Personal preference of course and others seem to find the water resistance important
If the audio is that bad it would be a deal breaker for me and i will send it back.
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Generalgore said:
Want to know if it is worth upgrading from the note 5 to note 7? If so Why??
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This sort of question is THE most common on all forum brands. The answer is yes and no. In other words some will upgrade while others are still happily using the note 1. It is a very personal issue and one only you can answer.
Let us know what you decide?
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