Develop Bugs

Keyboard Problem Still Exist?

I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not the TP2 still has the keyboard problem from the touch pro?

What's the keyboard problem from the Touch Pro?

Yeah
What is the problem?
Please let us know

I don't know what problem touch pro keyboard has

I searched around and I think this problem is keyboard lag. However, I don't think it exists on the TP2, as the review here (to read it, you'll probably need google translator to translate the page) only mentions how quickly the device runs and how amazing the keyboard is, there's nothing about keyboard lag.
Dave

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I searched around and I think this problem is keyboard lag. However, I don't think it exists on the TP2, as the review here (to read it, you'll probably need google translator to translate the page) only mentions how quickly the device runs and how amazing the keyboard is, there's nothing about keyboard lag.
Dave
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Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?

Compared to the Kaiser this thing is a dream! I press a button and the character appears on the screen at the same time! It's wonderful!
No more waiting for the last 2 words I typed to appear slowly. It's much much better

kjb86 said:
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELdBSd-R8eU&feature=channel_page
Here u can check it out (compared to the TP1 and the X1) Seems pretty fast to me

There was a keyboard lag in the Touch Pro when I bought it, but since installing latest official ROM it's gone

No lag on stock Rom for Rhodium for me.
As stated above, things will only get better once we get HSPL and start cooking our own Roms
Cheers,
Beasty

beast0898 said:
No lag on stock Rom for Rhodium for me.
As stated above, things will only get better once we get HSPL and start cooking our own Roms
Cheers,
Beasty
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orbitalen said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELdBSd-R8eU&feature=channel_page
Here u can check it out (compared to the TP1 and the X1) Seems pretty fast to me
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dazultra2000 said:
Compared to the Kaiser this thing is a dream! I press a button and the character appears on the screen at the same time! It's wonderful!
No more waiting for the last 2 words I typed to appear slowly. It's much much better
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thanks everyone for the information. It seems as though I am still stuck with this kaiser and my horrible text messaging speeds for quite some time (darn Canada/North America not having the same frequencies)... *sigh* I guess the kaiser has been somewhat good to me

There is no keyboard lag whatsoever that I'm experiencing with my Touch Pro 2. I typed a sermon summary from a church's sunday service superbly with the keyboard. Loving it so much!

nope, it's lag-less

woops, forgot about this. hahaha.
I was talking about the countless number of keyboards breaking on the touch pro.
Tons of threads about it over at ppcgeeks.
It's something to do with the ribon or something inside and it breaks or pops out,
and then you're keyboard decides to stop working.
My friends has gone out like 2 times on him, and had to get 2 other replacements,
and this is within the past 4 months. lol.
But I already got the TP1.

^ That's what you were talking about...
So far haven't seen any reference to this issue on the TP2.

galaxys said:
^ That's what you were talking about...
So far haven't seen any reference to this issue on the TP2.
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lol, I couldnt get a TP2,
only way I could get it was if I bought it at full retail
or got it from verizon when they get finished hacking it up.
And I couldn't afford the first one
and would never buy phones through verizon.
So I ended up going with the TP1 to hold me off for a while.

Ugh, I hate the timeout error.
I refresh and it reposts. woo!
Sorry bout double post!

yeh, I'm still waiting on the tmobile TP2. Hopefully, they won't hack it up or I'll have to get something else...

kjb86 said:
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
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no lag at all

galaxys said:
yeh, I'm still waiting on the tmobile TP2. Hopefully, they won't hack it up or I'll have to get something else...
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ya, I was worried I'd wait for verizon or alltel too long,
and they'd just hack it up anyways,
so I just said screw it and got the TP and decided to wait for a
more mature WebOS, (I would like to develop for it, but hate the pre)
or wait for a wm7 phone.
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no lag at all
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cool.

I received mine in the mail yesterday and wanted to give my mini review.

I received mine in the mail yesterday and wanted to give my mini review.
I currently have or had:
G1
G2
G2x
Sensation
Hercules
The reason I mention this is because this phone is not much nicer then the G2, G2x or the sensation but this phone is still solid.
I paid the outright price and coming from these phones I just cant see the difference for me to spend $560. This is just based on the feature and feel of the phone vs what I already own. If you were coming from a old phone by all means this is slightly better then the rest I mentioned but not $560 better.
Pros:
No pentile
No screen door effect (spaced pixels)
No Yellow Tint
No over colored greens and oranges
Fast web browser alive, I mean WOW! Flash sites run very well
NFC
Decent processor
Fastest download speed from Tmobile device yet
Very light
Nice feel in hand
Cons:
Defective screen (I had the pixelated, washed out /brushed steel stripes) the artifacts stay in the same place and is noticeable when I pull down the notification bar.
DPI is way to HIGH for such a resolution - Not bad but should be a option
Stutters 10% of the time
Car audio does not have the Voodoo punch from stock, not sure about later development or if a compatible chip is in there.
This phone did not blow me away but will offer it to my girlfriend over the sensation for the only reason being the GPS is terrible int he sensation and we use the navigation a lot and wanted to smash the sensation many times.
This phone is very close to being sent back but even if keeping this is being exchanged for a different screen.
Does any that bought from Tmobile have a perfect/good screen? If so please post pics.

1wayjonny said:
Does any that bought from Tmobile have a perfect/good screen? If so please post pics.
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I have a good screen but have no way to post a pic at work Maybe when I get home tonight

1wayjonny said:
Cons:
Defective screen (I had the pixelated, washed out /brushed steel stripes) the artifacts stay in the same place and is noticeable when I pull down the notification bar.
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This seems to be a pretty common, but then again we typically only hear from people who have this issue. I'm planning on heading back to the T-mobile store and compare my unit to their display models. Hopefully there will be a difference and convince an exchange.

dksxmks said:
This seems to be a pretty common, but then again we typically only hear from people who have this issue. I'm planning on heading back to the T-mobile store and compare my unit to their display models. Hopefully there will be a difference and convince an exchange.
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Do you think it's a qc issue? Or is it a hardware (LCD or another issue that they all will have?) flaw?
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jburnette87 said:
Do you think it's a qc issue? Or is it a hardware (LCD or another issue that they all will have?) flaw?
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This is my first Super AMOLED device so I'm not sure what to expect. I came from MyTouch4G before this and an SE x10i before that, and both fo them had LCD's iirc.
My friend has a Sprint GS2 and I got to compare them side by side. I noticed it's much less apparent on the Sprint one (Had to get up really close and carefully stare at it) so you almost cant tell, and when the brightness is up to about 30% it's just gone completely.
I tried to show him the lines I was talking about but he couldn't see them at all, and ended up calling me insane. So it's also the eye of the beholder.. so to speak. I don't have much evidence to go on other than what I'm seeing, and am fairly convinced it's hardware issue. I remember the MT4G had 2 different batch of screens where the viewing angles and vibrance was substantially different. This might be the same case, though I would expect more from "Super AMOLED Plus".

jburnette87 said:
Do you think it's a qc issue? Or is it a hardware (LCD or another issue that they all will have?) flaw?
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Based on the pictures someone posted, I find it unnerving that it's only one the right side of the screen.
It's almost as though it's hardware related in the sense that it has something to do with whatever is right beneath that part of the screen. Could it be heat related? The CPU being there? etc.
I don't remember seeing this on European GS2 when I played with it.
This is why even if the prime wasn't coming, I'd be hesitant to pick up the GS2 as the screen itself is a new line of manufacturing....and I'd rather let the first adopters deal with the imperfections while they work the kinks out in their manufacturing process.

I'm on my second SGS2 in two days. The first one was bad. Very bad. Defective screen: grey stripes, washed out colors. Extreme stuttering. Ok. Recieved my second one 3 hours ago. Great screen. Practically no stuttering.... until the first hard reboot. Bam! As bad as the first one except the screen. Laggy, choppy. Impossible to enjoy. Wtf????
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I've noticed stuttering with the screen animations on. Once I turned them off, no problems. I've got the grey stripes, as well. If I keep my brightness around 50%, more or less, I don't really notice them. Debating on whether an exchange is in order.
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Even The Almighty Launcher Pro really sucks on this phone. I'm returning it. It's not worth it.
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I'm not having any issues with my phone that have been mentioned in this thread. Mine is working perfect fine.
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webisweb said:
Even The Almighty Launcher Pro really sucks on this phone. I'm returning it. It's not worth it.
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just to be fair
Launcher Pro hasn't been performing well since Nexus S came out, and all the newer devices that came after it, like the original SGS2.
many other launchers are working way better/faster than Launcher Pro now
in other words Launcher Pro is kinda old school now, it needs to adapt to the new devices

Go Launcher EX. Same thing. Jumpy/choppy/laggy.
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AllGamer said:
just to be fair
Launcher Pro hasn't been performing well since Nexus S came out, and all the newer devices that came after it, like the original SGS2.
many other launchers are working way better/faster than Launcher Pro now
in other words Launcher Pro is kinda old school now, it needs to adapt to the new devices
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Launcher pro runs like crap on every phone.
That launcher has and will be the worst launcher I've ever tried to date. My gs2 flies with the stock launcher and launcher 7. I haven't tried adw as I kinda like touch wiz.

Jorge18 said:
I'm not having any issues with my phone that have been mentioned in this thread. Mine is working perfect fine.
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Can you do something for us, plz? Can you hard reboot your phone (VolUp+Power)? I'd like to know if the phone will stay the same - stutter free.
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Working perfectly fine over here. Had a tiny bit of thr brushed steel issue, but turned up brightness and it went away. Other than that, he phone is blowing me away.
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I posted this in the other vertical lines thread, but I'll post it here as well:
dksxmks said:
I just came back from the T-mobile store and I'm happy to say that the exchanged device is much better in terms of the vertical lines. I'm fairly convinced that it's the nature of these AMOLED displays, only some seem to be worse than others. My old device was at ~40% brightness and it's still pretty clearly visible. Now with this new one, I can go down to ~20% without even noticing it unless I reeeeaaaally stare into it.
Make sure you test it beforehand though. I checked 2 of their display models and they both had that problem. I lucked out with the new one they handed me at random.
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I really wish someone could post and show the lines you guys are seeing. I dont' see this on my screen at all. The little stuttering is very very little and I only see it slightly when pinch zooming on the homescreen. The HTC phones do the same exact thing. Nothing I would return over.

Jjday7 said:
I really wish someone could post and show the lines you guys are seeing. I dont' see this on my screen at all. The little stuttering is very very little and I only see it slightly when pinch zooming on the homescreen. The HTC phones do the same exact thing. Nothing I would return over.
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The thread is called "Vertical lines on screen." Someone posted pics of the issue.
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scmurphy13 said:
The thread is called "Vertical lines on screen." Someone posted pics of the issue.
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ok thanks. I see it now and I will have to look at my phone closer to see if I have the problem. I hope not.

ive had no probs but no phone is 100% perfect

"Burn-in"-like effect lingering on screen [resolved]

I wasn't sure how to describe it in the title. I just got my GNex direct from Google yesterday. I noticed that what is displayed on the screen seems to linger for a bit after the display changes. It's especially noticeable on Google Play; I type something in the search bar, hit enter, and when the keyboard disappears, I can see outlines of the keys still there mostly faded on the dark "loading" background, going away after a few seconds. It's similar to what used to happen to older TVs/monitors if you were to leave the same image on the screen for a long time and it would "burn" on.
Is this something I should be concerned about? I'm not aware of mobile displays needing any kind of training period, should I give it a few days?
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EfemaN said:
My original searching didn't bring up anything; I guess I should have tried different search terms. Looks like this is normal on AMOLEDs, the cells need to be exercised a bit.
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If it isn't permanent then it is not burn in and is not a concern.
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I just got my play store galaxy nexus today and I noticed this as well. From the little searching I did sounds like this is normal. That's OK still love this phone.
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Zeinzu said:
If it isn't permanent then it is not burn in and is not a concern.
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It's why I added the -like at the end, I know it's not actual burn-in. I just haven't seen this elsewhere. Now I'm realizing it's common on AMOLED displays.
brooksyx said:
I just got my play store galaxy nexus today and I noticed this as well. From the little searching I did sounds like this is normal. That's OK still love this phone.
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My original searching didn't bring up anything; I guess I should have tried different search terms. Looks like this is normal on AMOLEDs, the cells need to be exercised a bit.

Things you don't like about the Galaxy Note II T889

Here is what I don't like:
1. When you wake up the phone from sleep there is a noticeable delay.
2. After you hang up the phone, there is a delay of about 3-4 seconds before you are brought back to the dialer.. Until then you're just shown the "Call ended.." message. Thats quite annoying because you have to wait another 3-4 seconds before re-dialing.
3. MTP.. I have never gotten it to work on this phone. After downloading the official Galaxy Note II drivers from samsungs website all I ever get is "Hardware missing" or something like that. I really miss the plain old USB Mass Storage.
4. When you bring the phone to your ear the screen turns black, (thats good), but after you take it back down to see the screen, there's a gap of about 2 seconds before it turns back on. very annoying.
So these are the 4 things I have noticed that I don't like.

Kinda SLIPPERY

JoJo2211 said:
Here is what I don't like:
2. After you hang up the phone, there is a delay of about 3-4 seconds before you are brought back to the dialer.. Until then you're just shown the "Call ended.." message. Thats quite annoying because you have to wait another 3-4 seconds before re-dialing.
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I think if you press the back button or home button to go back to whichever screen you need, it works based on my experience.
Like if i just ended a call, pressing the home button takes me home right away without any delay.

mitchillen said:
I think if you press the back button or home button to go back to whichever screen you need, it works based on my experience.
Like if i just ended a call, pressing the home button takes me home right away without any delay.
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What if you wanted to redial? Try it. You can't get back to the dialer without waiting 3 seconds.

rlee008 said:
Kinda SLIPPERY
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Yeah. I liked the textured back on the black galaxy note 1.

JoJo2211 said:
Here is what I don't like:
1. When you wake up the phone from sleep there is a noticeable delay.
2. After you hang up the phone, there is a delay of about 3-4 seconds before you are brought back to the dialer.. Until then you're just shown the "Call ended.." message. Thats quite annoying because you have to wait another 3-4 seconds before re-dialing.
3. MTP.. I have never gotten it to work on this phone. After downloading the official Galaxy Note II drivers from samsungs website all I ever get is "Hardware missing" or something like that. I really miss the plain old USB Mass Storage.
4. When you bring the phone to your ear the screen turns black, (thats good), but after you take it back down to see the screen, there's a gap of about 2 seconds before it turns back on. very annoying.
So these are the 4 things I have noticed that I don't like.
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You are complaining about common problems on different phones.
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I hate how you have to press home to go back to the home screen after an end call. I want it to go direct to the home screen after a call ends. I had to install an app for that: "On Call End". Works great.

sico987 said:
You are complaining about common problems on different phones.
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I don't think he is complaining, more just expressing his thoughts.
If they are common problems on different phones then that means exactly that, different phones. Not all phones. I'm not trying to be rude but I think all the OP was trying to say is that the four things he listed kinda bothers him, nothing more, nothing less.

fandroid93 said:
I don't think he is complaining, more just expressing his thoughts.
If they are common problems on different phones then that means exactly that, different phones. Not all phones. I'm not trying to be rude but I think all the OP was trying to say is that the four things he listed kinda bothers him, nothing more, nothing less.
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Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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EvoYas said:
Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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You do realize you're on a cellphone forum and not cnn right?
Hey everyone...stop talking about...well...anything! because other people have problems and therefore yours are no longer valid.
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Haha good one. Sadly its true and in a country like america we have forgotten what it is to be hungry
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The biggest complain I have with the Note 2 is the stylus not able to control the menu and back buttons.

I agree with you, that is the most annoying thing about this phone by far. It's one of the biggest reasons I don't use the stylus me consistently. Great point.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}

EvoYas said:
Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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While I do agree that these problems may be minor: With all due respect, this is a website about mobile devices and development, and this thread is specifically for the issues regarding the user experience of the T-mobile Note 2.
There is nothing to say that the OP did not start a blog for starving families in third world countries on an appropriate website, or that he lacks common sense and or compassion towards major economic problems. . . as is implied by your remark.
Furthermore, problems must be addressed, not ignored. Many minor problems compounded can become a major one, eroding away the cumulative ease of use and overall responsiveness of the user experience.
Many people like myself regard our phones as valuable business tools rather than toys. It is important to have a high performance tool to efficaciously compete in today's "hi-tech" market.

Getting edge only speeds when using it unlocked on AT&T :banghead: yeah theres so little flaws I had to blame something it cant control .... yet.
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I didn't like that it sometimes didn't want to charge as A/C...even though it was plugged in the wall it thought it was charging through USB which took for ever. Changed the USB cable and it seems to be working good now. So I had 1 thing I didn't like...not anymore! There's nothing I don't like about this phone! Ha!
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EvoYas said:
Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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Excuse me? Yes, we live in America and can afford nice things. That said, if we are spending $300, or as much as $700 or $800 off contract, we expect these products to continue to improve over time. The intent of this thread was clearly a constructive one. Developers can't know what we want improved if we do not voice our opinions. Get off your moral high horse.

I think the white is too warm or dirty in my taste.
Other than that, I have no complaint.

ryancox1036 said:
Excuse me? Yes, we live in America and can afford nice things. That said, if we are spending $300, or as much as $700 or $800 off contract, we expect these products to continue to improve over time. The intent of this thread was clearly a constructive one. Developers can't know what we want improved if we do not voice our opinions. Get off your moral high horse.
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Don't even bother, it's not even worth your time.
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People with an s4 watch this

Need some input please. Watch this video that I filmed of my s4 earlier and tell me if your phone does this too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEZ-kr1O4xA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Chadly said:
Need some input please. Watch this video that I filmed of my s4 earlier and tell me if your phone does this too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEZ-kr1O4xA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Hmmm...can you just tell what happens? thats 9 minute too long sorry lol

When you're in an app, even like you phone keypad and you hit the home button, is there still a slight delay even though you have unchecked the double tap s voice thing? It's not much of a delay but it isn't instant response.
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There is a .002 second delay. I'm calling Samsung right now! I'm like sooooooo pissed
:banghead:
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I see it now that you pointed it out and I paid attention to it but even as OCD as I am about my phone, it doesn't bother me one bit. You mentioned in your vid that you were "kinda being a little OCD about it." I believe you're being "kinda a little too OCD" about it...
"That's not the only thing that's really high around here if you catch my drift." Yeah, I noticed lol

Haha. It only really bothered me because I thought I was the only one with it but I guess it's all s4's. My note 2 does the exact same thing. Hopefully this update coming out irons out the s4 issues.
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Complete waste of time.................... Spare yourself and don't view the video!
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Do you still have s voice on?
That causes a response delay.
Sorry to impatient to watch that all the way thru.
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S voice is off but there's still a slight delay. Apparently all Samsung devices have that though.
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Yeah what bugs me though is that obvious lag when switching from app tab to widgets. Not sure if it's me or everyone. But the phone literally stops. .. than continues lol
Famously Infamous

mgbotoe said:
Yeah what bugs me though is that obvious lag when switching from app tab to widgets. Not sure if it's me or everyone. But the phone literally stops. .. than continues lol
Famously Infamous
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Lol I don't have that. I keep hearing about some update Verizon is supposed to get any day now. Should fix all the issues...
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Regarding this ms delay, I notice you pressed the 'Back' button, and compared the 'timing' to that of the 'Home' button.
It is quite possible that this ms difference may be due to the fact that the 'Back' button is a capacitive button and the 'Home' button is a mechanical button.
The ms discrepancy in the contact being made may be due to the fact that the 'Home' button has to travel further than the 'Back' button to make the contact, which is appearing as a ms delay which you are experiencing.
This may or may not be a cause for what you are observing, and perhaps an Electrical Engineer may be of further assistance.
I am just referring to these 2 'buttons' that you were speaking about in your demonstration.
Sorry, I didn't 'watch' the whole video, but as I was typing this post I did 'listen' to to the entire video.
I am now going to have a drink

Ok so I got a different s4 and it seems to be working much better.
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