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so excited that i have got my rhodium i decided to start a thread so people who share my excitement when they 1st got theirs can post! hope the moderator don't close me down.................
it is beautiful and so slim considering what is under the hood! been trying that dual speakerphone system and it works well. tried using in noisy environment and it auto fades out surrounding noise so you can hear what other person is saying! still cant stop the wind blowing into speakers though!
interesting to see what battery life will be on this thing as that could be its achiles heel! added coreplayer via cab and it works well. videos look stunning! the tilt screen is much stiffer so it don't flop about like on my old kaiser/tilt. used to think the screen on my kaiser would fall off at anytime! it would be nice if people posted the their initial feelings of the device wen 1st received and thoughts after a few days of use. i will be!
thanks all

Keep us posted

waiting for mine shall have it tommorow will post my firt initial thoghts on the phone ad then long term use ie battrey life.

quarintus said:
Keep us posted
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will do. still putting it through its paces as we speak. no freezes or untimely reboots as yet. added a few apps like tomtom etc. works well. can't get over how beautiful it looks and i am sure everyone who gets one will be happy. can't wait for all the customisations that will be available on here for this device. so exciting!

awesome and congrats. Mine should be here tomorrow i hope DHL is on time What onscreen keyboards dose it have? I am really wanting portrait suretype(compact qwerty) for the times i dont use the HW keyboard

ratchetjaw said:
awesome and congrats. Mine should be here tomorrow i hope DHL is on time What onscreen keyboards dose it have? I am really wanting portrait suretype(compact qwerty) for the times i dont use the HW keyboard
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got that ez input keyboard on screen. no sure type or t9 i'm afraid! still the ez input keyboard works well and fully compatible with hardware keypad

shingers5 said:
got that ez input keyboard on screen. no sure type or t9 i'm afraid! still the ez input keyboard works well and fully compatible with hardware keypad
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oh ok thanks for the info. I am gonna try and hunt down a suretype cab file that will work with it. It works the best for me for one handed texting

ratchetjaw said:
oh ok thanks for the info. I am gonna try and hunt down a suretype cab file that will work with it. It works the best for me for one handed texting
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if you haven't already check out this very good review on here. it will wet your appetite even more. real in depth review
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139&p=1

shingers5 said:
if you haven't already check out this very good review on here. it will wet your appetite even more. real in depth review
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139&p=1
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Ok thanks i have seen his unboxing and hardware review gonna check this out. Dang DHL site says clearance delay for the past 2 days. I called and they say it cleared over the weekend and will be here by 5 tomorrow. Dang sites not updated. I wish it were fedex but oh well

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Ok thanks i have seen his unboxing and hardware review gonna check this out. Dang DHL site says clearance delay for the past 2 days. I called and they say it cleared over the weekend and will be here by 5 tomorrow. Dang sites not updated. I wish it were fedex but oh well
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it will be worth it when you do get it! its a thing of beauty! let us know how you felt through your unboxing and initial usage!

shingers5 said:
it will be worth it when you do get it! its a thing of beauty! let us know how you felt through your unboxing and initial usage!
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ok will do, i am currently using a Telstra touch HD so i figuring this one is gonna be that plus an awesome keyboard for the win I am so excited feel like a little kid lol

ratchetjaw said:
ok will do, i am currently using a Telstra touch HD so i figuring this one is gonna be that plus an awesome keyboard for the win I am so excited feel like a little kid lol
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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!

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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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Oh ok sweet yeah post on the battery if you would. So WMP doesnt play movies well? On my touch hd it seemed to play better than coreplayer for me for some reason. I cant wait to try it out tomorrow How is the speaker volume? for music and ringtones

shingers5 said:
well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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Keep in mind that it takes like 3 full battery uses and reloads to get the battery on its best.

quarintus said:
Keep in mind that it takes like 3 full battery uses and reloads to get the battery on its best.
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yeah i know that but cheers for pointing out. getting its ass kicked today to see how it holds up after 1st charging cycle. gave it overnight charge - 12hrs. really hope battery holds up as this could be the only thing that could be its undoing. however saying that, when all the cooks start building rhodium roms etc i am sure there will be things in place to aid battery life!

few other things
no spare stylus. searched whole box and nothing.................
slide out mechanism is a bit stiff for my liking but like the sturdier feel to tilt screen. not sure bout purple background and do like the t-mobile look. that will be my 1st enhancement changing clocks and penguin to t-mobile rhodium look! will post screenshots of how it looks once done! very quick scrolling and smooth accross tabs. mem usage 50% as standard. music playback is more than suitable and in my opinion quite good! FINGERPRINT magnet my god! ugh hate that but will have to live with it! screen protector in box but i can never apply without getting bubbles underneath! big fingers/hands. i find tilt suitable enough for watching vids from my desk or table at home! can't wait to see WM6.5 on this machine
edit: still have the issue where i have to untick proxy in connections to get certain web apps working on t-mobile. for example messenger! not a big prob and doesn't slow down connection speed!

shingers5 said:
yeah i know that but cheers for pointing out. getting its ass kicked today to see how it holds up after 1st charging cycle. gave it overnight charge - 12hrs. really hope battery holds up as this could be the only thing that could be its undoing. however saying that, when all the cooks start building rhodium roms etc i am sure there will be things in place to aid battery life!
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I'm hanging on your lips. Don't know if that's a right expression. It dutch translated, that I am waiting eagerly for your findings

quarintus said:
I'm hanging on your lips. Don't know if that's a right expression. It dutch translated, that I am waiting eagerly for your findings
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no worries! posted a few more observations above. must have been typing at same time as you!

finger menu is there and almost instant. synced my hotmail and gmail accounts with no issues. camera is 3 mgp and very adequate in good light conditions. that high res screen makes all the difference. video recording is awesome dude, best performance on any HTC deivice IMHO! call quality is great and very crisp. tv out is there but alas no cable and haven't searched to see if available yet!

multemidia
opera 9.5 there and works well but no flash support. IE is there but older version not new version. flash i however supported in IE. will update IE with cab i have for new version. been bashing since morning from bout 8.30am and till 3 bars left in battery.

ATT Touch Pro 2 FCC Approved

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/06/04/atandts-htc-touch-pro2-hits-the-fcc/

Great! Does anyone remember how long the time frame was for the Fuze from when it was approved by the FCC to when it was finally released?

doctajay said:
Great! Does anyone remember how long the time frame was for the Fuze from when it was approved by the FCC to when it was finally released?
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According to Engadget, on September 8th. If they move at the same speed, then we should see the TP2 around August 5th.

This great news!! i'll hope we'll get it on before august... but there is not pics of it yet.. right?

OMG YAY!!!
OMG OMG OMG
I'm SOOO HAPPY!!!
w00t!!
Hopefully it comes through quick... Sometimes things things can be up for sale within two or three weeks of clearing the FCC, but honestly, now that I know for sure it's coming to AT&T I can be patient. Had been getting very anxious with only the sketchy German inside papers to believe in.
I love my Kaiser, but I'll be happy to throw it on eBay once I have my TP2 in hand!

does this version support att 3g tho , or is it just a rebranded eruro version

It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard. I've heard it being called the HTC Fortress. I dunno if they will keep that name but i doubt it

Bxsteez said:
It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard. I've heard it being called the HTC Fortress. I dunno if they will keep that name but i doubt it
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This is exactly why i got the Euro version. I use wifi 97% of the time anyway so not really missing 3g plus with all of you all on 3g my edge runs faster lol

Bxsteez said:
It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard. I've heard it being called the HTC Fortress. I dunno if they will keep that name but i doubt it
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I'm sure AT&T will find some silly name for it... Where'd you hear about the keyboard? You have some news for us?

i kinda find it hard to believe that AT&T would mess up the keyboard THAT much. That might just be a quick photoshop moc-up or some such. IF they to stick with that ugly keyboard design, i doubt they will sell many of them.

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I'm sure AT&T will find some silly name for it... Where'd you hear about the keyboard? You have some news for us?
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I've seen the info at engadget and pocketnow but i think pocketnow got it from engadget. I'm pretty sure they will screw up the keyboard pretty bad same as they did with the original touch pro.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/24/htcs-warhawk-and-fortress-are-atandts-touch-diamond2-and-pro2/

Man, you guys are way late on the keyboard stuff.
Here's the thread that started May 24th on this. Check post #25 for my personal mythbusters before getting all worked up over the Fortress picture...

Not to mention there's no buttons specific to ATT found on that keyboard. Frankly I don't care of the letter layout, as long as it keeps the spaced out keys.

Now I just have to decide if I want to keep my HTC Touch HD or sell it for a TP2. I still have to sell my treo 750. I did just upgrade the rom to WM 6.5 and it is working pretty good. I want to see some difinitive pics of the AT&T version first. They always seem to mess up a good thing.

Hamburg said:
Man, you guys are way late on the keyboard stuff.
Here's the thread that started May 24th on this. Check post #25 for my personal mythbusters before getting all worked up over the Fortress picture...
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I'm with you... I see no reason to believe that is the final keyboard layout.

Hamburg said:
Man, you guys are way late on the keyboard stuff.
Here's the thread that started May 24th on this. Check post #25 for my personal mythbusters before getting all worked up over the Fortress picture...
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Uhhh i wouldn't say that you shouldn't be expecting a keyboard change. Whether it will be the severe i dunno but it will get a keyboard change that will suck. If you look at att/cingular history they either leave the keyboard alone(which is rare) or they mess it up. I think the only they improved with the wizard (Cingular 8125). I think they left the tytn and the tytn2's keyboard the same and then they ruined the touch pros. I would say expect the worst and hope for the best.

Bxsteez said:
Uhhh i wouldn't say that you shouldn't be expecting a keyboard change. Whether it will be the severe i dunno but it will get a keyboard change that will suck. If you look at att/cingular history they either leave the keyboard alone(which is rare) or they mess it up. I think the only they improved with the wizard (Cingular 8125). I think they left the tytn and the tytn2's keyboard the same and then they ruined the touch pros. I would say expect the worst and hope for the best.
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I guess I should've been more clear. I meant you can expect a change from the picture that was leaked. But if you can take anything from history then they're likely to change it from the way it was designed by HTC too.

Hamburg said:
I guess I should've been more clear. I meant you can expect a change from the picture that was leaked. But if you can take anything from history then they're likely to change it from the way it was designed by HTC too.
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perhaps, but even with their history, i don't think ATT has ever changed the Psychical design of the keyboard, just changed what the keys themselves do. It would cost them too much time and money to 'redesign' the keyboard itself for it to have a different psychical layout. Changing whats printed on the keys is one thing, psychically moving them around is quite another.
So while i expect they will have different keys, programmed differently on their own version, im pretty sure the original layout, spacing and all, will remain intact, so it will resemble sprint/t-mobile versions with all their ATT crap on it instead. Now, given their history, they will likely change the top row numbers in to their own BS system of whatever they want to put their, and program the numbers as Fn of other keys, just make it more annoying for everyone..
In retrospect, i dont see ATT changing the phone anymore than sprint has with their color scheme and back cover. (which while it looks different, its not something that HTC has to make a new manufacturing line for)

Bxsteez said:
Uhhh i wouldn't say that you shouldn't be expecting a keyboard change. Whether it will be the severe i dunno but it will get a keyboard change that will suck. If you look at att/cingular history they either leave the keyboard alone(which is rare) or they mess it up. I think the only they improved with the wizard (Cingular 8125). I think they left the tytn and the tytn2's keyboard the same and then they ruined the touch pros. I would say expect the worst and hope for the best.
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k lol cause I got worried and thought you had some new info when you said:
Bxsteez said:
It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard.
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Hopefully if it's just speculation we can put the keyboard to rest for a bit till we get some info?

Lyian said:
perhaps, but even with their history, i don't think ATT has ever changed the Psychical design of the keyboard, just changed what the keys themselves do. It would cost them too much time and money to 'redesign' the keyboard itself for it to have a different psychical layout. Changing whats printed on the keys is one thing, psychically moving them around is quite another.
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I can say that is true since att didn't change the wizards keyboard design it was cingular that did.

Else Mobile UI

Will the HTC phones have this UI anytime soon ?
ELSE Mobile phone user interface
VIDEO: Hands-on with the ELSE Access Linux Platform smartphone

this is what i thought wm7 was going to look like

That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum

mazzarin said:
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
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Where should it be then ?
what category ?

Hi ilordvader,
You should go on the official site for more info: http://www.firstelse.com/
Also, it has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7 series (This UI is based on Limo).
To my mind, this thread should be moved in General forums.
Cheers.

This is actually much better than stupid iPhone-like WP7. And it even multitasks.

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And it even multitasks.
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Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.

godefroi said:
Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.
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Of course. I was trying to be sarcastic, because WP7 (just like iPhone) will not have true multitasking.

BTW,
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.

mazzarin said:
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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I hate tiny buttons
I love WP7 for it's big buttons.
I have said time and again, when you are mobile, you are HANDICAPPED. You cannot be looking for tiny buttons while you are walking down the street and typing an email or browsing.
So you need a phone with a large(er) size i.e HD2, and big buttons.
HD2's biggest flaw is it's array of tiny buttons on the bottom.

gorelshv said:
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.
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arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol

This thing has to be moved onto another forum.
Anyway, you can see that it is Linux-based, so maybe we can have it when we'll get a working Linux kernel for the HD2!
...Or on other devices (that are already running Linux just fine) like Diamond, Blackstone, Raphael etc.!

very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?

cchr said:
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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that's hiliarous i was thinkin the same thing cuz i am left handed
it would have been interesting if you talked about the hardware that's running the phone it would be interesting if we could boot that up on our devices the phone intergation is very slick i really liked the way it handled the phone call
i would like to see how it's developed in the future and if they release a version of hardware with a slide out keyboard if so i think i'd be interested in makin the switch if the development got big enough as thing here on xda have gotten
i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC

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very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL

ilordvader said:
arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol
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Yes, we are!

chiks19018 said:
Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL
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they should worry about the 10%, because they are not a very well known company and they could use all the customers they can get, i saw the ui about 1 month ago, and after that i read about it again yesterday in this thread. they would be better off selling the ui idea to a bigger OEM or MS or Apple or Google, because only then this ui will become popular.
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i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC
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what happens at MWC? MWC is over..

cchr said:
very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.

Roadrunner100 said:
Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.
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oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..

cchr said:
oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..
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umm...you have 2 hands..or no?
use the other one.

Multitouch issues / No real Multitouch

Hi all,
I am also thinking about buying a Desire - actually I nearly couldn't wait any more until I found the following:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/is-multitouch-broken-on-the-nexus-one/
The touchscreen of the N1 seems to have a technical limitation in the way that it can only register 2 simultaneous touches at a time. But it cannot really track the touch points correctly, it merely reports 2 X and 2 Y coordinates. (Which could make up 4 Points actually of which only 2 would be the correct ones obviously)
If I understand the comments correctly the N1 has a Synaptics ClearPad 2000 touchscreen in it with the above limitations.
There is newer touchscreen called Synaptics ClearPad 3000 which actually supports 'real' multi-touch (up to 10 fingers)
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
As the N1 and Desire are practically the same thing just with different wrapping and software I got a bit worried. Can one of you guys with a Desire please check if the same issues occur for the Desire. Or maybe we are lucky and HTC used the newer screen the Desire (*hoping*)
This actually upsets me a lot as I really wanted a Desire
cheers,
Tommi

Me too.
I also found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T97P_wfYKms
I seems it can recornize 3 touches but not crossed. (the specification of clearpad2000 sayd maximun 2 touches??!!)
EDIT: the top 2 figers share an axe!
here is the bug on Android ML..
http://groups.google.com/group/andr...ead/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/f4b039d29f955d76#
It's and hw problem that could have a partial sw fix.

I don't really see it as a big problem. You'd be hard pressed to use more than 3 fingers on the small screen anyway.

i dont get why the switching of axes is a problem? the only time you'll use multitouch on your desire would be to pinch zoom photos etc. but it doesnt matter if your fingers are in the top left corner and the bottem right and it thinks the other way around. it wil totaly not effect the geusture cuz the movement is stil the same.
(srry for my bad english )

sure? look at this simple *broken* game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OscGUON6mCs
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i dont get why the switching of axes is a problem? the only time you'll use multitouch on your desire would be to pinch zoom photos etc. but it doesnt matter if your fingers are in the top left corner and the bottem right and it thinks the other way around. it wil totaly not effect the geusture cuz the movement is stil the same.
(srry for my bad english )
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This topic has been discussed to death.
I own an HTC Desire, unlocked, HTC own retail version.
And I have never ever experienced any issue with multitouch nor when using my phone.
For fiddling around, flick flock, swipe swope, tap tap, pinch zoom, shake, gaming, whatnot.
Seriously, if this is a big issue, you will hear a lot of complaints and it will be all over the news.
In fact most if not all are happy with our phone

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sure? look at this simple *broken* game.
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sorry but at least I dont buy a 400 euro phone to play pong on it.
im just sayin.

LOL!!!!! You made my day
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sorry but at least I dont buy a 400 euro phone to play pong on it.
im just sayin.
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Are u stupid or what? it was just to test the input.. if a simple game has broken multitouch imagine a <cool multitouch 3d game here>
Anyway I don't care much of this bug, because I'm not an addicted mobile gamer..
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LOL!!!!! You made my day
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You should be the stupid one because you don't have a sense of humor .. LOL
I was laughing because the joke of other user ...
But now, I am laughing at you instead.
Because you are now worried that this (non) issue will broke other cool multitouch 3d game ... LOL again
assente said:
Are u stupid or what? it was just to test the input.. if a simple game has broken multitouch imagine a <cool multitouch 3d game here>
Anyway I don't care much of this bug, because I'm not an addicted mobile gamer..
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LOL!!!!! You made my day
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X2
ive had no issues with using multitouch, for me everything works perfect !

I did not want to discuss any fixes or reasons for the malfunctions, thats all clear.
I simply wanted to know if it is the same with the Desire as it is with the N1.
If it is a big or small issue is for everyone self to decide. Maybe I only want to play pong with my phone (I don't say I want that), in this case it would be a huge issue. If the only thing you need is a pinch zoom (which is a useless guesture btw) it is no issue at all.
Could you be so kind and test that pong game on the Desire and let us know if it works or not?
gogol said:
This topic has been discussed to death.
I own an HTC Desire, unlocked, HTC own retail version.
And I have never ever experienced any issue with multitouch nor when using my phone.
For fiddling around, flick flock, swipe swope, tap tap, pinch zoom, shake, gaming, whatnot.
Seriously, if this is a big issue, you will hear a lot of complaints and it will be all over the news.
In fact most if not all are happy with our phone
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Because you have asked me, then my answer is NO. I won't test that.
You will have 2 possible answers anyway ...
1. It still have that problem
2. It does not have that problem
I think your concern is no. 1, correct? I guess so ...
Then it is up to you ... But as I said, this is not an issue for daily use, except you really want to play that Pong game
PS: From what I read, I almost certain that HTC Desire will have the same issue like N1 for this (same display technology anyway).
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I did not want to discuss any fixes or reasons for the malfunctions, thats all clear.
I simply wanted to know if it is the same with the Desire as it is with the N1.
If it is a big or small issue is for everyone self to decide. Maybe I only want to play pong with my phone (I don't say I want that), in this case it would be a huge issue. If the only thing you need is a pinch zoom (which is a useless guesture btw) it is no issue at all.
Could you be so kind and test that pong game on the Desire and let us know if it works or not?
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just tested Pong from Marketplace and unfortunatly i have the problem on my desire :|

at10ti0n said:
just tested Pong from Marketplace and unfortunatly i have the problem on my desire :|
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Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...

thomasschaz said:
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
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or get the motorola droid/milestone

thomasschaz said:
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
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It won't play pong so you won't get it?

The algorithms for these touch screens aren't designed for complex multi touch, they are designed to recognise gestures with 2 fingers.

at10ti0n said:
or get the motorola droid/milestone
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Hm... well to be honest I have not made very good experiences with motorola in the past. Event though the droid/milestone phones look quite nice I'd really like to stay with HTC. I do not really need a new phone at the moment, I only wanted to have the Desire . But only with real multitouch (which is for me, to track more than 2 fingers accurately)
vdude_1 said:
It won't play pong so you won't get it?
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Hehe, no that would be quite a stupid reason, wouldn't it.
I do however want a phone with true multitouch and not just a 'basic guesture supporting' 2 finger recognition. (oh and I probably don't need to add that iPhone is not an option)

I think.. it's only a software problem..
maybe there is a bug in android 2.1?
Or, someone in motorola already found out about this bug and fixed it for droid.
Anyhow, imho, this can be quite easy to be fixed.

TP2 too HD2?

Soo, I've got a chance to trade my TP2 which I love oh so much because the keyboard is the sexiest I've ever seen, to trade for an HD2..
I want the HD2 but, then I don't want to have to deal with the on-screen..
What do you think I should do, keep my TP2? Or get the HD2..

After using swype the last few months I've been using the HW keyboard less and less...I'd probably go HD2 at this point.
Edit: Oh, and the whole WP7S thing too.

Toleraen said:
After using swype the last few months I've been using the HW keyboard less and less...I'd probably go HD2 at this point.
Edit: Oh, and the whole WP7S thing too.
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Haha thanks for the quick response
I've used swype on my TP2 but it's a little bit.. not sure what to put.
But I'm sure you get what I mean, tol.
What's WP7S?
I know WM7..? o_o

Yeah, Swype took a bit to get used to, but once you just learn to trust it and wait to correct stuff till the end it's pretty fantastic. Just about as quick as thumb typing on the keyboard.
WP7S, Windows Phone 7 Series, WinMo 7, WP7, whatever MS is calling it these days

rossle12 said:
Haha thanks for the quick response
I've used swype on my TP2 but it's a little bit.. not sure what to put.
But I'm sure you get what I mean, tol.
What's WP7S?
I know WM7..? o_o
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WM7 = WP7S (Windows Phone 7 Series)
For me the benefit would be in running sense 2.5 without any hitches and great performance.

Alrightt, thanks for the replys
I'm still debating, 'cause I know the HD2 is quick as heck.
I'm just going to miss my TP2 ):
haha, it's all good though.
Can't wait to get my HD2!

One guy entered to nike store and ask the guys around if Adddas is better...
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Keep Rhodium!
Typing on REAL keyboard is not comparable to any super sensitive (capacitive or resistive) screen
Even if processor is faster...
I bet to Touch Pro 3 for mid 2011

My older brother just visited me and he has the HD2.. The phone is incredible and if i could have it on Verizon i would get it in a second.

orb3000 said:
Keep Rhodium!
Typing on REAL keyboard is not comparable to any super sensitive (capacitive or resistive) screen
Even if processor is faster...
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I totally agree! So yeah, Keep TP2...

Get a HD2! TP2 is great but, hey, HD2 is a King!

rossle, if you're going to get the HD2 after all, here's what I can suggest to make the step away from the hardware qwerty as painless as possible:
If you haven't already, go ahead and install a swype keyboard on your TP2 and start getting used to using that input method now. Once you get your HD2, you'll be able to start using it (swype) comfortably right from the start, and that will go a LONG way towards making the transition easier.
Also, I'd start practicing holding your thumb a tiny bit farther away from the screen...it took me almost 2 weeks to make this adjustment (necessary due to the capacitive screen vs the resistive that you have now), but now that I've retrained my joints and muscles it's a much smoother experience...I'm sure that anybody who has made the step up to the HD2 can back me up on this

The deal breaker for me is the abysmal battery life on the HD2 as compared with the TP2. I don't know the real world difference because I only own the TP2. But the rated specs are disheartening. Would anyone who owns both comment?