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Display protective film

Hi i've found in Toch package one film with the same shape of display,someone know if this are spare part or is additional protection and should be placed?
Today my friend show me his Htc touch with this "film" placed and so is start discussion with him about the use destination.
Thank you in advance.

It has to be placed as it is called a screen protector. Not using one would lower your PDA resell value has you will probably get scratch on your screen after a few weeks.
Be carefull when setting this up, as it need a very clean screen, and a dust (nearly) free environment. A bathroom after a hot shower is the perfect place to set this up.

Yes, it is a screen protector. It is a bit ticky to fix. To make it easy to align you may sprinkle some water on the adhesive side and apply to the screen and align. Gently press out thewater with a stiff paper and also to displace air pockets. If some water droplets still remain under the sheet do not bother. It will all dry out within 3 days and result in a clear bright screen.

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thank guys, was thinking is spare part because the default protections of display look like removable and so i've supposed replacement part.....but wasn't
Ok just placed

I'll have mine by the end of the week.
I store mine in my pocket and it seems the protector would peel off from repeatedly taking it in and out of your pocket since the screen is flush.
Anyone have any experience with this?

Does anyone knows if these HTC protectors (not some cheap 'fits all' protector) can be bought seperately? I applied mine right after i've got my phone it but was a bit sloppy with all the excitement and when re-fitting it some dust got underneath it, leaving me small airbubbles. If anyone has a link to how/where, it'd be much appreciated.

you can remove it, wash with some soap and then apply it once again, no need to buy a new one.

The HTC ones can be removed, washed and re-applied too? Can someone confirm this, coz I only read this could be done with the better ones from expanys or something

where to buy protector film?
T-mobile told me to go to dangaard.com
but i can not find the accesory's for the touch and the site is only for store's
so i went back to the the store asking if they can order the screen protectors for me the did not want to order it for, but i got one extra from there demo model, so my tip is.. go to shop and ask if they have spare protector from the demo model

How about the exim screen protectors? I have heard that those are "high quality" films... (pda-now.com)

expansys has some good ones, PPCTech and ORA: http://www.expansys.com/a.aspx?i=149713&atype=SCREPROT
Proporta ones are decent too www.proporta.com

Wondering if anyone try this
http://cgi.ebay.com/CP-FULL-BODY-SC...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Really want to know how good they are, they claim to be totally protective. I am a bit skeptical, any thoughts?

I have been very happy with these skins from Boxwave. Very easy to slip on when needed. Used these with my Trinity as well. I have not tried the ones with the cover. The Touch with skin is still smaller than the Trinity.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/flexiskin/flexiskin-htc-touch_2727.htm
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Just noticed they offer a Skin + ClearTouch screen protector package
http://www.boxwave.com/products/bun...skin-and-cleartouch-bundle-htc-touch_2727.htm

This is something similiar to what I post earlier, they warrant for the life of your device that you will never get a single scratch on it after you provide their full body protective film. Wouldn't this be cool, without the bulk of a case, yet, still achieve the same protection. If anyone have a chance, browse thru their site ,they have a video demonstration to show u the force thatf film able to withstand.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCTOU.html
Wondering if anyone have experience with it.

Seed123 said:
The HTC ones can be removed, washed and re-applied too? Can someone confirm this, coz I only read this could be done with the better ones from expanys or something
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I'm interested to know this too, is washable?

Some photos...
I personally don't like the front cover, the shiny effect doesn't look right in this phone (at least for me), the back cover is fine....
The installation is more or less easy, after some minutes the covers really stick to the phone, if you don't like the result you can remove very carefully the covers, wash them and repeat the process again
Pros:
- Removable and washable.
- Resistant (apparently).
- Inexpensive.
Const:
- A bit shiny for my taste.
- Good for scratches but not to drops
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Talking about the original HTC protective film... Yep! it is washable

What the.....CONDENSATION!!!!!
thaihugo said:
It has to be placed as it is called a screen protector. Not using one would lower your PDA resell value has you will probably get scratch on your screen after a few weeks.
Be carefull when setting this up, as it need a very clean screen, and a dust (nearly) free environment. A bathroom after a hot shower is the perfect place to set this up.
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man! are u really serious. i mean a bathroom and especially after a hot shower wud be the last place i wud attempt to do something like sticking a protective film on my PDA. i mean think a little science man. after a hot shower condensation [stage when the vapor above cools back to liquid] is surely a threat inside a bathroom, and while you try to stick the film, condensed vapor or mist to be precise might come in between your pda and the film. then all you will ever have is a smudged all white screen which you cant wipe off even, cos its between the layers.
so i m jus telling you cos i had seen a lot of incidents like this specially where hot vapor just cooled off is around!!!!!
No harm done! Just my scientific mind thinking a lot!!!!!!!

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i did a post some days ago about shieldzone. i used the invisible shield for a couple of days and the only thing thats really terrible is the reflection of the cover, as you can see in the pix abough.
so i searched again for a good display protection and bought a product from 3M, named vikuiti, armr200. for me its the best i ever saw.
# Anti-Fingerprint Layer
# 2 times Anti-Reflection Coating
and a very strong material.
i tried a lot to scratch the layer, but it was not possible.
Look at this, its a german site. if you google for it you'll find a site in your language for sure.
http://www.schutzfolienscout.de/vikuiti-armr200-schutzfolie.html

I have the 3M Vikuiti, armr200 for my Fujitsu P1610. It works quite well, not totally clear like those crystal clear type films, so you will lose some contrast and clarity, but for anti-reflective, it's the best you can buy. (and it's quite pricey).
One bad thing is that it reduces outdoor visibility quite a bit, you'll need to crank your backlight for outdoor use.
And it still shows fingerprints, actually they are quite noticeable due to the AR layer, but it's much easier to clean than other AR coatings.
One thing though, unless 3M is going to make one specifically for the HTC Touch, it will be a PITA to cut to the proper shape, since the clear cover is not a rectangular shape.

ayyu3m said:
man! are u really serious. i mean a bathroom and especially after a hot shower wud be the last place i wud attempt to do something like sticking a protective film on my PDA. i mean think a little science man. after a hot shower condensation [stage when the vapor above cools back to liquid] is surely a threat inside a bathroom, and while you try to stick the film, condensed vapor or mist to be precise might come in between your pda and the film. then all you will ever have is a smudged all white screen which you cant wipe off even, cos its between the layers.
so i m jus telling you cos i had seen a lot of incidents like this specially where hot vapor just cooled off is around!!!!!
No harm done! Just my scientific mind thinking a lot!!!!!!!
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I wouldn't worry about it, I've used the steamy shower "poor man's clean room" technique many times, never had an issue with condensation stuck under the film. If anything, any liquid will help to avoid air bubbles and can be squeegeed out. Some films (namely 3M's paint protection films) require liquid to install properly.

Why does the screen scratch so easily?!

Delete.
Delete.

Resistive touch screens have to be made of a plastic soft enough that you can flex it to push it down in contact with the lower layer. It's a tradeoff, and another reason people prefer capacitive.

vin5cent0 said:
I'm so upset over this... today I had my phone in my pocket with a plastic contact lens case and it puts 4 small yet noticeable scratches on the plastic screen. WTH?!!?!?? Not the kind of quality I would expect out of a phone for this price!
I've left old phones in my pockets with keys before and never got much damage on them, and they were much cheaper phones.
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Why you would put a phone so expensive in your pocket with another object with sharp, hard edges without at least a screen protector is beyond me. Besides the fact that the touchscreen is basically an ENTIRE side of the device. My recommendation is to get a screen protector, they can be had for fairly cheap on eBay.

Tell me you at least applied the screen protector included in the box before you tossed it in your pocket?!!

Delete.

vin5cent0 said:
Sorry but you're a dumbass if you think a contact lens case is sharp!
It doesn't matter too much because I have about 5 dead pixels on my screen and vzw is replacing it. Guess I know now that this phone requires ghost armor or something before it scratches from me looking at it too hard.
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I've worn contacts for several years, and some cases have sharp ridges that are made of hard plastic that can scratch a screen like the TP2 w/enough pressure. As it stands, you're the one with a scratched up screen that can't piece two and two together...

Alright guys, get back in your corners! haha...
Anyway, the lessons to take away from this are the following
-use a screen protector (it's just sensible to splurge $10 for a piece of plastic that can effectively protect your $500-$600 device)
-if your device will be in contact with other objects (sharp or not), use a case.
-if your device will be in your pocket with no case protecting it, you shouldn't put anything else in your pocket.

In the future you can replace the housing or something so the screen will be like new again. However, the first thing I usually do when purchasing a phone such as this one is put a decent screen protector on it to avoid situations like this. I usually always put it in a phone sock when putting it in my pocket.
Funilly enough it's an ipod sock

vin5cent0 said:
Sorry but you're a dumbass if you think a contact lens case is sharp!
It doesn't matter too much because I have about 5 dead pixels on my screen and vzw is replacing it. Guess I know now that this phone requires ghost armor or something before it scratches from me looking at it too hard.
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I guess your rudeness was fairly compensated with your scratched phone. Someone offered a simple suggestion and you respond so unwarrantedly. Maybe you deserved it after all.

LordLugard said:
I guess your rudeness was fairly compensated with your scratched phone. Someone offered a simple suggestion and you respond so unwarrantedly. Maybe you deserved it after all.
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Gotta love karma

vin5cent0 said:
Sorry but you're a dumbass if you think a contact lens case is sharp!
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Anybody wanna bet on which way the "Who's the dumbass?" poll would go????

Anybody used one of the available screen polish products to remove tiny scratches from a resistive touchscreen? Any recommendations?

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vin5cent0 said:
I donno if I'd recommend that. Screen seems pretty soft, and the only way to remove a scratch is to remove layers of plastic to even it out. Might do some damage to it.
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Yea ive only ever used it on a psp and ipod screen which is much harder than a resistive touchscreen. Even though it will probably work to some extent if the scratches are minor, it could end up having adverse affects on the screen. Your best bet is probably to ride it out and wait for the price of replacement screens to go down, and then replace it.

Rubberized back cover for Atrix

So I've got to give credit to the fine folks over at the Nexus S forum for giving inspiring the idea. I am a fan of keeping my phone caseless but I'm also a fan of keeping the scratches away. I bought a can of plasti dip in black and sprayed the back cover of the phone. The inside I sprayed 3 coats and the outside I believe 5. I held the can away from the cover about 15 inches while spraying for an even coat. Let it dry 30 mins between coats and sit 4-5 hours when I was finished just as the can said. It turned out great as you can see and now has a scratch proof rubberized cover. The rubber simply peels off if I ever want to remove it.

Looks good, not a bad idea at all. You say you sprayed the inside of the cover as well? Wouldn't think you would need to bother with the inside, why did you cover the inside. Take care.

smsparks said:
Looks good, not a bad idea at all. You say you sprayed the inside of the cover as well? Wouldn't think you would need to bother with the inside, why did you cover the inside. Take care.
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I sprayed the inside as well so it wouldn't start to peel on the edges. It fits just as snug as it did before despite being sprayed inside too. =) I did cover the hole for the speaker before spraying

How well does it slide in and out of your pocket? Is there any spray that would be more of a soft-touch rubber feel?

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How well does it slide in and out of your pocket? Is there any spray that would be more of a soft-touch rubber feel?
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It slides in and out just fine. It's just grippy enough to not slide around on my seat as I'm driving. The best thing is if it gets annoying or I want to change it the stuff just simply peels off

i've used plastidip plenty of times on things, and i dont know about the durability of that over time. I use it on emblems on cars to black them out and stuff and small rock chips etc pull it off fairly easily. Plus the finish usually isnt too smooth. i'd rather spend 20 and get the feather case....i can peel that off too

seriouslyjeff said:
I am a fan of keeping my phone caseless but I'm also a fan of keeping the scratches away.
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How do you plan to keep that arpo over 70 if you don't sell any cases? lol.

link12245 said:
How do you plan to keep that arpo over 70 if you don't sell any cases? lol.
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Lmao! If we had more than zero cases in the store I would sell em! I take it you work for att too?

poor phone looks like my grandpa's truck bed now.

falconeight said:
poor phone looks like my grandpa's truck bed now.
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Too bad it can't haul

case companies need to stop making ugly ass cases and make some back cover replacements.
First one to make a soft-touch back cover with kick stands wins my money

Very cool idea! I decided just to wet sand the back cover to keep it looking like carbon fiber AND to make it a little easier to grip on to - pics are in the link on my signature.
I don't know if I agree with spraying the inside too just to get the edges uniform.... spraying the inside (and, well, the outside too I guess) will help trap in heat, something you don't want when charging a phone with a dead battery because this thing gets HOT as it is!
Also, I don't know if I would advertise the ability to simply peel the rubberized coating right off if you want to remove it. I've used this stuff dozens of times, I actually have my race car's tow hook covered in it, and that thing sees a LOT of abuse, but doesn't come right off.... If you can use this stuff to protect against giant metal hooks scratching off the coating with exactly as many dips in the can as you have layers of spray, I doubt this stuff would come off completely without a fight!

seriouslyjeff said:
Lmao! If we had more than zero cases in the store I would sell em! I take it you work for att too?
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Yes sir. We also have no cases, no accessories, but do have a few of the phones left.

GarciaM25 said:
Very cool idea! I decided just to wet sand the back cover to keep it looking like carbon fiber AND to make it a little easier to grip on to - pics are in the link on my signature.
I don't know if I agree with spraying the inside too just to get the edges uniform.... spraying the inside (and, well, the outside too I guess) will help trap in heat, something you don't want when charging a phone with a dead battery because this thing gets HOT as it is!
Also, I don't know if I would advertise the ability to simply peel the rubberized coating right off if you want to remove it. I've used this stuff dozens of times, I actually have my race car's tow hook covered in it, and that thing sees a LOT of abuse, but doesn't come right off.... If you can use this stuff to protect against giant metal hooks scratching off the coating with exactly as many dips in the can as you have layers of spray, I doubt this stuff would come off completely without a fight!
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I don't know about it overheating at all although I haven't noticed any problems. As far as it peeling off it peels off without a hitch.. almost too easy, I am going to sand the back of the case in hopes that it will stick a little better. I assume the glossy cover makes it easy to peel but I've peeled it off and sprayed it again already once.

andy2na said:
case companies need to stop making ugly ass cases and make some back cover replacements.
First one to make a soft-touch back cover with kick stands wins my money
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Dude yes I am totally with you!

andy2na said:
case companies need to stop making ugly ass cases and make some back cover replacements.
First one to make a soft-touch back cover with kick stands wins my money
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+2 !!!!!!!

How is it holding up, 2 weeks later?

Ah sorry for the late response. It was holing up pretty well. I peeled it off a few days ago due to it peeling.. I think I might lightly sand the back first this time
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Good idea and all but why would you not buy a rubberized case instead (replaces battery door). I have seen a dozen shops selling them in the US but none that ship (or none afford-ably yet) to Australia.

mrinternet said:
Good idea and all but why would you not buy a rubberized case instead (replaces battery door). I have seen a dozen shops selling them in the US but none that ship (or none afford-ably yet) to Australia.[/QUOeditTE]
Oh because when I did it 6 weeks ago (right after release of the phone) there were none available
Edit: I misread. I don't like cases. They make the phone too bulky. I now use best skins ever. This peeled off after about a week each time I did it.
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Replacement For silver bezel

So I've barely had my first android phone for a week and its already slipped out of my hands and into hard concrete. The result is that I have some ugly dents on the silver ring that surrounds the phone. I have the marble white version, Any idea if I can find a replacement for it? Either I'm putting in the wrong search terms or I there are none available on the internet. I'm feeling really bad right about now

I have the same issue,, I hope someone help us :s

I cant help with the bezel but I can HIGH recommend you two buying a case since you have already dropped and dented the phone... Preferably a TPU one that will cover all edges.

alcom4x said:
So I've barely had my first android phone for a week and its already slipped out of my hands and into hard concrete. The result is that I have some ugly dents on the silver ring that surrounds the phone. I have the marble white version, Any idea if I can find a replacement for it? Either I'm putting in the wrong search terms or I there are none available on the internet. I'm feeling really bad right about now
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pretty sure there aren't any until a Chinese knockoff reseller (cnn.cn or etc) makes one. even at that, you'd have to take apart the phone.

Wond3r said:
I cant help with the bezel but I can HIGH recommend you two buying a case since you have already dropped and dented the phone... Preferably a TPU one that will cover all edges.
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I bought a Case-Mate one,,
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I found the bezel in ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-HOUSING...753897?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20c7114f69
Not sure if I should get one

Hum, you do realize that's quite a bit of work to change that part, right ? (besides the fact that you void the warranty)
A guy made an almost complete video showing how to disassemble the device. I'm saying almost because at the end he explains the screen is heat sealed with the frame (the one you found on eBay) :
http://youtu.be/eo93EF7rVIw?t=9m27s (timing is included in the link)
You need to un-seal the two parts with heat.
So to resume, changing the bezel is as complex as changing the screen, or even more complex since you can buy screens already sealed with frames (but I suppose you don't want to pay 300$ just for bezel replacement ). Meaning this is surely the most complex piece replacement on the Galaxy S III ...

Nokia7Vista said:
I bought a Case-Mate one,,
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You mean the ones that dont cover the entire edges?
My point exactly. Thats why I recommend a TPU case.
Also the case will cover the dent and you dont have to worry about it anymore.
No point disassembling the entire phone and probably voiding your warranty for a dent.

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Hum, you do realize that's quite a bit of work to change that part, right ? (besides the fact that you void the warranty)
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So to resume, changing the bezel is as complex as changing the screen, or even more complex since you can buy screens already sealed with frames (but I suppose you don't want to pay 300$ just for bezel replacement ). Meaning this is surely the most complex piece replacement on the Galaxy S III ...
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Guys, Nonepse is right about how complex of a job changing the bezel (it's actually the phone's frame) is. The same guy did a video on how to take part the frame/bezel that the LCD is stuck on with adhesive. It is NOT a pretty sight.
http://youtu.be/_70-W9JjVjg
There goes my dream of using the GS3 without a case and simply replacing the housing whenever I feel like it.

Try CNN.cn they usually have replacement parts
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It is the frame, seems like alot of work, and practically impossible to swap out without replacing the screen since they are glued together . Just get a nice case, you won't see much of the damage. I got at least a nick here and there when i dropped my phone when i first got it. Now I got full case and front tempered glass screen protector that hides most if it (besides the little crack still visible, but it doesn't bother me). http://i50.tinypic.com/xpqa03.jpg

+1, a lot of effort/cost to fix it....Just put a bumper case on it at this point.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31340070&postcount=15

Got the same thing on my white Metro S3. Was looking into replacing the bezel/ frame until I saw that video. Just not worth it IMO.

hypertek said:
It is the frame, seems like alot of work, and practically impossible to swap out without replacing the screen since they are glued together . Just get a nice case, you won't see much of the damage. I got at least a nick here and there when i dropped my phone when i first got it. Now I got full case and front tempered glass screen protector that hides most if it (besides the little crack still visible, but it doesn't bother me). http://i50.tinypic.com/xpqa03.jpg
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Hi there,
May I know where did you get your case?
Cheers.

Your best bargain would be to get a TPU case off ebay!

nhc said:
Hi there,
May I know where did you get your case?
Cheers.
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Looks like a UAG case in white.

guys the truth is that its imposible to change only the bezel of the phone. why? because its imposible to remove the LCD withou braking it. the bezel is only $30 but if you brake the LCD (AMOLED) Screen its about $300 so just use a case.
when i bought my s3 it was black, and some of my friends drop it and the screen (gorilla cracked), i decided to buy the whole front part of the phone. i decided to change the color so now my S3 is Titanium 100%.

hypertek said:
It is the frame, seems like alot of work, and practically impossible to swap out without replacing the screen since they are glued together . Just get a nice case, you won't see much of the damage. I got at least a nick here and there when i dropped my phone when i first got it. Now I got full case and front tempered glass screen protector that hides most if it (besides the little crack still visible, but it doesn't bother me). http://i50.tinypic.com/xpqa03.jpg
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Whats the name of this case looks excellent!

I'd just get a really nice looking case if it's esthetics that you worry about.

Spendy said:
Whats the name of this case looks excellent!
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UAG it is...

I've had a white and now I have a grey one. On both of them I used some 220 grit sand paper and carefully sanded the cheap silver plastic off revealing a beautiful soft touch black plastic looks especially good on a white phone. I'll put some pictures of you want
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After 2 Years with Iphone .....

Hello,
after more than 2 Years with the IPhone 4 I'll become next week the HTC One Black Vodafone Germany.
Please be so kindly and give me some urgent handling recommendations...do I need a display protection, any cases or whatever....?
Many thanks.....

speedmaster.nl said:
Hello,
after more than 2 Years with the IPhone 4 I'll become next week the HTC One Black Vodafone Germany.
Please be so kindly and give me some urgent handling recommendations...do I need a display protection, any cases or whatever....?
Many thanks.....
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It depends on how careful you are with your phone, but I would definitely recommend a case and screen protector to avoid getting scratches, if nothing else.

tyler.durden said:
It depends on how careful you are with your phone, but I would definitely recommend a case and screen protector to avoid getting scratches, if nothing else.
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I'm very careful but I agree with you for a screen protector and a case, any recommendation for the case, I saw the origin HTC bi color case but some people said it makes scratches....!?!

speedmaster.nl said:
I'm very careful but I agree with you for a screen protector and a case, any recommendation for the case, I saw the origin HTC bi color case but some people said it makes scratches....!?!
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That depends on how much protection you want and if you mind covering up the back of the phone (it's nicer than most phones so some people rather not).
http://www.basalent.com/htc-one-2013-m7-hybri-flex-crystal-clear-pctpu-case-white.html
That's the one I have, and I like it a lot. Protects the sides and the back, without covering the aluminum body.

sohungry said:
That depends on how much protection you want and if you mind covering up the back of the phone (it's nicer than most phones so some people rather not).
http://www.basalent.com/htc-one-2013-m7-hybri-flex-crystal-clear-pctpu-case-white.html
That's the one I have, and I like it a lot. Protects the sides and the back, without covering the aluminum body.
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I never have much issue with screen scratches (usually) but I'd still err on the side of caution and do at the very least a screen protector. I'm going to replace my ZAGG (which I'm hoping is just scratched and not a crack on the screen ) with one of those fancy shmancy glass screen protectors with the rounded edges.

felacio said:
I never have much issue with screen scratches (usually) but I'd still err on the side of caution and do at the very least a screen protector. I'm going to replace my ZAGG (which I'm hoping is just scratched and not a crack on the screen ) with one of those fancy shmancy glass screen protectors with the rounded edges.
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Ha ha, I have one of those fancy shmancy glass screen protectors. It feels nice and looks nice, but there are bubbles in the corners

TPU skin is good enough if you have good reflexes.
While it is falling, you'll probably break its fall by hitting it up. Plus you can find absolutely clear TPU skins.
A case is a must, screen protector is not.

What I do is whenever I get a brand new phone, I always start with a good protective case and a screen protector. After a few months, I gradually get thinner cases and usually end up with those 0.3-0.5mm thin cases that makes the phone feel nice and less bulky. If you plan to rock the phone naked, I'd recommend a phone pouch.
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Thank you very much for the quick response I'm still searching for a good frame or case, is it true that the origin HTC bi color case leaves scratches on the phone I won't believe it .....?! I also hope that the black version is scratch resistant some people said not......I just talked with a Vodafone assistant to change the black against the silver but he said to me that himself have the black one and I looks quite better and after two month usage without any case he have no scratches. I'll take the black one, it comes next week and I will give you a first impression.
Can't await

sauprankul said:
A case is a must...
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WHY?

ro_explorer said:
WHY?
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Its not REALLY a must IMO. The phone actually holds up very well. Yesterday i purposefully put the phone in the same pocket with a bunch of coins and it scratched the aluminum but the scratches wiped right off. If you drop things than that would be a different story at aluminum can easily dent :good:

That was my point also ... it looks a little exaggerated to say that a case is a must.
I intend to use the phone "naked" indoors. Any case will practically ruin the nice feeling of the phone itself. Of course, if you drop it then there are chances to ruin the nice finish.
I'm also using the phone outdoors, fr sports. For that purpose I ordered a trident kraken ams ... I hope it will do the job.
P.S.: I saw that a OEM housing is "only" 50 bucks, free shipping ... I guess I'll buy one just in case .

I would say that if you carry your phone in your pocket a case is a must. I generally like to go case-less (especially with a phone this pretty), but after having my One slip out of my pocket on a couple of occasions, I ended up getting a case (Poetic Atmosphere; the rubberized edges keep it from slipping out). If you intend on getting a pouch of some sort, I think case-free is fine.
Also, I don't have a screen protector and have no scratches, though I tend to be pretty gentle with my phones.

ro_explorer said:
That was my point also ... it looks a little exaggerated to say that a case is a must.
I intend to use the phone "naked" indoors. Any case will practically ruin the nice feeling of the phone itself. Of course, if you drop it then there are chances to ruin the nice finish.
I'm also using the phone outdoors, fr sports. For that purpose I ordered a trident kraken ams ... I hope it will do the job.
P.S.: I saw that a OEM housing is "only" 50 bucks, free shipping ... I guess I'll buy one just in case .
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On Etradesupply, the OEM housing is only like 30 bucks.
I say a TPU case is a must because:
1) You WILL drop it at some point, it's anodized AL, not grippy plastic.
2) The case provides a lip, so if you put your phone face down, the screen won't touch the surface & scratch from w/e dirt is there.
3) The case will also keep the camera lens (or the anodized back) from touching any surfaces.
4) I wear a ring, and if I don't put a case on, the ring scratches ONTO the phone. That's not good.
If you're REALLY careful, then none of these matter. but it's hard to be perfect.
Besides, when I'm in bed, I can just quickly remove the case for a little bit. It feels nice.

This phone is just too good looking to cover up, IMO. I've been going naked since day one I don't have a single scratch on it. The aluminum housing is solid and whatever glass HTC used really resists scratching. My One X screen got covered in microscratches pretty quickly, but I haven't seen anything on this phone.
Just treat it with care and you can forget the case. CNET tried to destroy their test phone and couldn't do it.

I have a double dip case bought at once with the phone. Well .. the feeling simply does not compare with the case on. It just loos cheap and plastic'ish ... is worse than galaxy S4 actually. So, with all the risks involved I will go "naked" while in normal use and I will use the kraken ams for outdoors. That's all ...

I only like corner protection. I don't care about the back.
I used to have a screen protector on this but I don't like it, it doesn't make the display look as nice. I have since taken it off and have not gotten any scratches, not even micro ones. I think this display is more tough than previous GG2 screens. I had the ONE X+ and it scratched easily.
Get one of these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365102

After 8 hours....
....I'm going crazy with the phone, the App Store is horrible I found nothing what I need, i looking for the 8player and found many sites but not in the App Store, can't connect my iPhone via Bluetooth to import my contacts, also with the ipad...
The phone looks and feels awesome that's for sure but android is horrible, don't know what I should do.....please be so kind and give me recommendations, I won't give it back for the iPhone 5.......so I don't know what I should do!?!?!

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....I'm going crazy with the phone, the App Store is horrible I found nothing what I need, i looking for the 8player and found many sites but not in the App Store, can't connect my iPhone via Bluetooth to import my contacts, also with the ipad...
The phone looks and feels awesome that's for sure but android is horrible, don't know what I should do.....please be so kind and give me recommendations, I won't give it back for the iPhone 5.......so I don't know what I should do!?!?!
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I respectfully disagree, as will most in this forum that Android is horrible.
Maybe you can post what apps you are looking for and other users can tell you if there are equivalent apps.

mfpreach said:
I respectfully disagree, as will most in this forum that Android is horrible.
Maybe you can post what apps you are looking for and other users can tell you if there are equivalent apps.
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Hello Senior Member,
Thanks so much for your quick response, ok I'm impatient, I found the first app for my marantz av and the buffalo server which works its the bubbleUPnP and it works with the iPhone equivalent not still searching the for the 8player.