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Zagg Invisible Shield....my experience :(

I received my full body protection from Zagg and to be honest I am not 100% satisfied. First off, on a side issue, I ordered the "full body maximum" protection from a seller on eBay and only received the "full body" despite paying the extra for it. That however is something I shall take up with the seller.
Upon beginning the installation and attempting to peel off the thin plastic, it became apparent that it was stuck to the paper it came on and resembled that of what sellotape looks like once stripped from paper it was applied to. See attached picture and you can see the state that the paper is in. I have fitted Bodyguardz products to both my previous HTC Desire HD and HD2 with no such problems.
I was not happy and almost stopped there ready to box it all back up and return. Instead, I tried my best and and despite it being very fiddly I managed to peel it away from the paper it was stuck to and decided to proceed with the installation. The front and back went on fine. Then came the top bit (or whatever bit its supposed to be). I am a little confused as to why Zagg would include 3 parts in their "full body" and then include one extra bit in their "Maximum". Either that or I did receive that "maximum" and its only supposed to have 3 parts but I would of presumed it would of been front and back in one type and then front, back, top, bottom and sides in the "maximum" protection pack?
The annoyance as you can see in the picture attached, is that this random extra bit is cut so poorly that it neither fits at the top or the bottom. At the bottom, it would directly be blocking the USB socket. At the top, it isn't cut in a way that would avoid blocking the headphone socket.
So.....whilst the front/back pieces dry up on my SGS2 overnight tonight (Ihaven't bothered with that extra bit), I shall be contacting both the eBay seller about receiving the wrong product and Zagg about my disappoint with the products cut. Any suggestions on what I should do? Am I best contacting my supplier alone, will I have to return the protection Ive got for a refund, or am I best going straight to Zagg in which case would they request I send the invisibleshield back?
Whether you want to buy one for yourself, I'll let you decide that!

in your second picture that part goes on the bottom of the phone and that cut out is for the speakers !!!
i have the same kit and the bottom part should not extend to the USB port.

Zagg sucks real bad! Used to have 2 of them on my Galaxy S and I spent almost 5 hours installing the second one. the end result was awesome. You couldn't tell it was there.
But then after 3 weeks, it started to peel off near my home button... And then I always had to be careful while I wanted to get the phone out of my pocket!
I ain't going anywhere near that $hit on my Galaxy S II.

Do'h!!!
Well I feel a tad stupid.....oh well, a slight oversight on my part it seems!!
I shall put this down to experience.....

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Are you sure the product is genuine?
I ordered a screen protector last week from the site of ZAGG
and is also a maximum package.
The package had not arrived yet
Do you recommend me not open the box and sell it? or maybe install only the front screen protcetor?

Eyal1506 said:
Are you sure the product is genuine?
I ordered a screen protector last week from the site of ZAGG
and is also a maximum package.
The package had not arrived yet
Do you recommend me not open the box and sell it? or maybe install only the front screen protcetor?
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I'd think it'd be safe if it came from the original Zagg site. After overcoming my daft moment, I installed the final piece and relatively happy with it. The back has a section of bubbles which haven't gone yet, they should hopefully disappear. Annoyingly there is a tiny 'bit' underneath the protector on the front of the screen producing a black dot. Heres hoping that goes too!

I ordered a maximum coverage from Zagg.com and thats not what it looked like.... close, but a little off... And your opening remark states you got it from ebay...
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daddymatt said:
I ordered a maximum coverage from Zagg.com and thats not what it looked like.... close, but a little off... And your opening remark states you got it from ebay...
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Really? What did yours look like, as in what differences from what you can tell? The one I received was a dam good fake if it was, has Zagg printed on the bottom right of the front protector, came with instructions etc I believe it to be authentic.

I used to use the IS for my blackberries. But ever since I got my iphone and other smart phones I haven't touched IS. I don't know. I don't like them anymore. It takes too long (12-24 hours to dry) and I can't be that long without my phone, and then within a few days the corners begin to peel and then I have to pay shipping to get new parts then the 12-24 hours begin again. Get a nice case That's that! It won't make it as thin, but it will protect it more, and there's no peeling or waiting or anything

That is why you never buy Zagg, they are probably the worse out of all the skin protectors that are used for NASA and luxurious cars, I believe its called thermo something . The best ones are Skinomi's TechSkin and Ghost Armor.Although, I prefer Skinomi, due to their less orangepeel effect and they cost about half the price of Ghost Armor. NEVER BUY ZAGG they have the worst Orange peel effect and are overpriced!!!

kotaro_14 said:
That is why you never buy Zagg, they are probably the worse out of all the skin protectors that are used for NASA and luxurious cars, I believe its called thermo something . The best ones are Skinomi's TechSkin and Ghost Armor.Although, I prefer Skinomi, due to their less orangepeel effect and they cost about half the price of Ghost Armor. NEVER BUY ZAGG they have the worst Orange peel effect and are overpriced!!!
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Thanks for the advice. How do you find the coverage on the Skinomi, which areas are protected e.g. top, sides and bottom?

I have friends that tried Zagg products before and the results were devastating.
I don't recommend them at all and I don't recommend any product at all, that it's application involves solutions of any kind...
The reasons should be obvious to everyone...

Here are pics of my phone with the maximum protection on it. I like it because I can toss the phone around and still keep it in my PDAir belt case. It's the first time I used Zagg's (I've used others) and it went on more easily than most. To the poster who seemed concerned, the solution they include is lubricant, not caustic acid.

cd993 said:
Thanks for the advice. How do you find the coverage on the Skinomi, which areas are protected e.g. top, sides and bottom?
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Just go to the website, google it, since rules say you can't post outside direct links. They offer the full body skin front, back, and sides $19.95. Also, just the screen $11.95. They carry the Carbon Fiber skin in 2 colors black and silver as well, it comes with the screen protector $24.95. Also a wood full skin also $24.95. They are probably one of the cheapest and best out there.
Sorry for the late reply btw. I just bought the silver Carbon Fiber Skin today. The Screen Protector is great.
They ship internationally too.

BarryH_GEG said:
To the poster who seemed concerned, the solution they include is lubricant, not caustic acid.
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One question only my friend:
For how long are you using zagg ultimate protection???
* Of course I know that the solution is lubricant, I am not as stupid as you think...
Only zagg recommends lubricant for the application of the ''shield''...

giokou said:
One question only my friend:
For how long are you using zagg ultimate protection???
* Of course I know that the solution is lubricant, I am not as stupid as you think...
Only zagg recommends lubricant for the application of the ''shield''...
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About a month. The lubricant made it way easy to put on because you can slide the pieces in to place once they're on the phone. When it dries there are no finger prints and no bubbles as you can see in the pics. Their covering is a bit grabbier than others I've used but I buff it with some ArmorAll occasionally to keep it slippery. I'm not a Zagg's fan - it's the first time I've used their products. The big benefit to me is that the phone looks naked and I can slide it in and out of my belt case and use the Samsung accessories without the protector coming off.

Last time I used a Zagg "shield" was on my old N97 (...) It looked great for a while ( a few months actually) but then the glue started to come loose and the shield started peeling off slowly plus due to it coming loose the edges started to look really scruffy and dust kept piling under it.
So I guess what I am trying to say is, it'll work well for a while but you will need to replace it sooner than if you were using other products already mentioned on this thread (Skinomi), but then again this is my experience, you may be luckier.

ValmarWeln said:
Last time I used a Zagg "shield" was on my old N97 (...) It looked great for a while ( a few months actually) but then the glue started to come loose and the shield started peeling off slowly plus due to it coming loose the edges started to look really scruffy and dust kept piling under it.
So I guess what I am trying to say is, it'll work well for a while but you will need to replace it sooner than if you were using other products already mentioned on this thread (Skinomi), but then again this is my experience, you may be luckier.
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That is why you have the lifetime warranty... Also, I have heard Best Skins Ever also may be an alternative. Also, I only recommend Skinomi if you take good care of your device as if you push down on the Skinomi screen protector the mark WILL NOT DISSAPEAR. So use only if you take care of your device i.e. Having a pouch for it, careful installation, and only finger not fingernail use.
A really good solution would be Ghost Armor, but they don't have the S2 available yet as they are located in America and not much demand I guess, sent them an email and they haven't replied for about a week.

I bought the full body armor as well and was a bit dissapointed too. The fit is good and I manage to install it within reasonable effort. But as expected, the bit for the battery cover won't stick properly due to the texture of the cover. I was expecting some kind of hard plastic protection, but instead, the cover feels soft and you can mark it easily with finger print. I didn't even bother installing the screen protection. Won't buy it again.

kotaro_14 said:
That is why you have the lifetime warranty... Also, I have heard Best Skins Ever also may be an alternative. Also, I only recommend Skinomi if you take good care of your device as if you push down on the Skinomi screen protector the mark WILL NOT DISSAPEAR. So use only if you take care of your device i.e. Having a pouch for it, careful installation, and only finger not fingernail use.
A really good solution would be Ghost Armor, but they don't have the S2 available yet as they are located in America and not much demand I guess, sent them an email and they haven't replied for about a week.
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Yup that's correct, but even with the warranty I feel it's too much faffing about, but others may be OK with it.
And yes you do need to take care of your device, but then again these phones are so expensive you would be a fool not to .
Like I said tho, people have different experiences & taste, in my experience clear shields, clear cases, clear desktop towers (yup .. I had one of them 100% clear lol...) etc. always get manky in the end, this time I went with a Zenus leather case thingy, lets see how this works out.
But yes, indeed you are quite right

DBA "Just Like Glass®" Screen Protector - ZAGG Killer?

DBA is a lesser-known company specializing in phone cases and screen protectors. One of their newer products, the "Just Like Glass®" screen protector promises to be the best screen protector you'll ever have.
Here's what Scott of DBA has to say about the screen protector:
We also had an independent third party test directly against ZAGG and destroyed them.
Testing with Laser Beams for distortion, regular glass of course had 0, Just Like Glass had 11.50, and Zagg had 666.
ZAGG doesn't even claim to increase the break resistance of the glass while ours has tested for an increase of near 40%.
In a wear test equivalent to putting it in and out of your pocket ZAGG showed wear after 345 times and our showed no wear even after 10,000.
ZAGG is more scratch resistant but at the cost of creating the distortion. And the difference isn't that great.
Just like glass screen protectors are stain proof. You can get makeup on the, dirt, oil, dye, etc... and you can wipe it off. ZAGG you can't. I personally tested ours with a black sharpie (not really the best decision looking back on it) and it did come off with a little elbow grease.
As far as being smoother than glass, if you use glass as the baseline Just Like Glass is 20% smoother while ZAGG was -147%. You can really feel it.
Ours don't have the orange peel effect that ZAGG does.
I wouldn't be doing this at all if I didn't have something that I would use and that was better than everything else.
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It's a wet-application (like ZAGG), but the included application kit makes it easy. This protector covers the viewing area, allowing it to work with cases perfectly.
It looks very promising and costs only $13.50 (by comparison, the ZAGG protector is $14.99).
Here's the site: DBA "Just Like Glass®"

I had a heck of a time getting it out of the plastic and in the process it got dimples from trying to pull it out. I contacted them to see if they will get a replacement sent out what a bad experience because they decided to make the plastic bag it comes in too damn tight with no leeway at all. The other con I noticed is it says to use a hard card but it does not come with one so I used the squeeze I have from Skinomi that I used on the Transformer Prime tablet.
Now I do have to admit it does feel like glass and not the soft rubbery feel I am use to with my mothers Skinomi. I always hate how the Skinomi drags on the tablet but this no drag at all. I will let you know how customer support is like after contacting them for a replacement for this one that got dimpled getting it out of the too tight plastic bag. Next time I will use a knife to cut the bag instead of trying to pull it out.
Oh and one more thing no sensitivity decrease at all that I can tell. I will try to get some pictures of it with my mothers camera to post but just to let you know it just a few mm larger than the screen so only covers the screen so great for cases.
I also tested the permanent marker on a piece of the excess plastic that I pulled it from and the marker after drying wiped right off so definitely appears to hold up to the claim of stain proof.

I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.

Now I'm curious.

How was the fit on the screen? Full to the edge coverage? Custom cutouts or just a chunk cut out?

I'm interested in this. Anyone else who bought willing to share?

Ok here is the pictures I promised. BTW I was not able to attach the pictures here got a security token was missing error.. any idea why? I was only able to attach picture by uploading from a picture site like Photobucket. Anyways I think I did a pretty good job of these pictures and you will see the 3 blemishes/dimples I caused pulling the protector out of the plastic but it came out better than I thought it would for only my second wet application install.
The fit is just about 1-2 mm larger than the screen so it only covers the screen and really works well with my case. The case is quite narrow for one with a kickstand and been very happy with the $10 purchase for it.

pmoradi2002 said:
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
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Everyone in every retail setting will tell you customers are dumb. Letting those customers know on a forum is a bad thing for your business.

From the DBA website, it appears that this is a fairly new company; a start-up by one individual. Do we have any independent evaluation of his claims regarding his screen protector and cases?

So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?

kuratsu said:
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
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Yes just like the pictures show. You can see the edges on the top down view of the phone. It's the area I was worried about and it is not rubbery or tacky like on my mothers Skinomi.

Century21J said:
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I'm guessing that's what the other guy did for spectre?
this looks promising. the thing i hate about wet application is the tacky feel to it. but if this promises to be "just like glass", might be worth trying it out.
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Yeah it's not a bad price and definitely not rubbery/tacky at all. BTW if you have any other questions on it let me know I'll answer to the best of my knowledge this was my first actual review so hope I covered all the bases in what was important to know Hope it was useful to you all.

Just Like Glass Screen Protectors
Hey all,
I'm not really new but I tend to post on other forums. I come here for the good stuff on rooting.
I'm the CEO of DBA Cases, Inc.
I did start the company, however I had several investors. After having an Original Droid, a Bionic, and a Galaxy Nexus I had a very good idea of what people liked.
Personally I hated screen protectors and was not going to sell one until we came up with this. I have it on my phone and love it. It protects against breaks as well - my photographer asked me why I went into making cases so I took the phone out of the case and it squirted out of my hand - hit the wall and then our tile floor. No damage at all to the phone but a very small micro scratch on the Just Like Glass Protector. It probably would have shattered. I've found that the most you can do is give it micro scratches - you can't feel them or see them with the screen on. That's what I got from the fall and it doesn't bother me at all.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Scott

molitar said:
Nice idea but I can not buy any case without a kickstand I watch alot of videos on mine.
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I completely understand. I wanted to put a kickstand on the Ultra but it would have been too bulky. Also the cost of adding a kickstand is nearly the same amount as making the mold for the case.
I have a different solution I use.
I'm planning on making my own stand but I have them wherever I may need it.
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While I'm taking pictures...
The Ultra and the Thin Grip
Please ignore the mess behind them.

The case does not look that much skinnier than the Amaze I am using which does have a kickstand.

Promising
Looks pretty cool. How does it keep your screen safe? doest it last well?

SSHGuru said:
How can you tell how thin the cases are from my picture
Stands must be made out of polycarbonate or abs in order to hold the case up. That means some bulk. It doesn't have to be a ton but I looked into a ton of stands and didn't decide to do it.
I wanted to - in fact I was going to make a stand of the same material they use in snap watches would would be made of TPU. Press a button and the stand comes out and can bend.
Problem is that it increases the cost of the case by at least $10,000. In fact I was talking to the CEO of another case company last week and he said it took three molds to make his stand. That's a ton of money.
Since I had a budget I decided to do without - some day.
Both of my cases could not be any thinner than they are.
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I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.

molitar said:
I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
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We are going to do a video soon for installing but the instructions on the site are the newest versions. Doing it in the shower is the safest method but if I suggest it people probably will freak out about how hard it is when it's really pretty easy.
In the video that was a glass puncher. I know it's hard to tell how hard it's being pushed but it's the same force. One is done on the film which stops the force and one on the glass which does not. The key test was pretty intense and then taking the rotary to it was cool. (if people are wondering it's on the Facebook page).
Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have made great glass that doesn't pick up prints. The one irritation about the protector I have is that it does. Not terribly but I'm used to not worrying about it. We are working on a way to get rid of the micro scratches and the fingerprints. The problem is if we add a layer it makes it feel more plastic and ruins the visibility. It has to be a chemistry solution and I didn't take chemistry in college so I just ask them to try...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151389828738942

I wonder how these screen protectors compare to the ZAGG EXTREME

[REVIEW] Incipio Feather for HTC One

I had this case on the HTC 8X in grey and it was easily one of the best cases I've ever had on any phone. The thinness, feel and texture was great.
As a first case for the HTC One I decided to buy this one but in black instead of grey to match with the light aluminum. It's a great case, it feels great, adds grip and the matte color is awesome. The grip and feeling on the back is superb. However, for that matte look, the black case texture/material is a little different than the one I had on the grey for the 8X.
It attracts finger prints and sweat or grease of your fingers. If it wasn't for this, this case would be perfect, at least for me.
If you don't live on a humid place or don't have have problems with finger prints, get this case by all means. Where I live it's almost 80%-95% humid all year so even if I don't have sweaty hands, it's inevitable that they get moist.
To sum up, it's a wonderful case, despite the problem with the smudges on the back. For that detail alone, it won't be for anyone as it would need to be cleaned two or three times a day to avoid the greasy/moist look on the back.
I do plan to get one in grey as the one I had on the 8X had an even better texture and feel and it didn't attract stains or finger prints at all. AT ALL. It was also a much of a darker grey that it showed on the pictures and I liked it even more when I got it.
For scratch protection, minimum bulk and great look and feel, this is a very good case.
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WOW that looks amazing. never heard of this brand case i am going to have to pick one up. thanks for your review!!

My problem with the case is the open top and bottom.

djq said:
WOW that looks amazing. never heard of this brand case i am going to have to pick one up. thanks for your review!!
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You are welcome. Incipio is a known brand but not in all countries, they make cases for almost every smartphone.
OGhoul said:
My problem with the case is the open top and bottom.
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I like the open top and bottom because it adds to the lightweight of the case and allows the natural aluminum color to be displayed prominently. The accessibility of the USB port and the power button is great because there is nothing around them.
This kind of case is only for scratch protection but that's the kind I'm always looking for.

I've also recently purchased this case in black. I LOVE the look of this case and one of the main features I like is that it still manages to maintain the ultra slim look and feel of the HTC One. This case really does fit well and doesn't detract from the stellar good looks of the phone.
One thing I do look for in these slim cases is that if the top edge of the case is slightly raised above the glass. That's a positive for me as I do not use screen protectors. With the top edge of the case raised just a hair it makes it easier to put my phone face down without worrying about scratching the glass. The Incipio Feather does have this very slight edge thankfully.
The only downside so far is that I've had to return my first case due to cracks. The two top corners of the case started to show stress cracks for some reason. In fairness they could have already been there as the first case I bought was already opened at the store and could have been a previous return. I didn't really check it that closely. It could have also been from me being a little aggressive taking the phone out of the case once to show somebody how slim it was. It fits really well so I may have forced it a little too hard.
The store did replace the case as it was previously opened and I checked the new one pretty carefully so no issues so far with the replacement. I'll post back here if any cracks appear again. Just in case you get one, be careful removing or installing the case and you should be fine. If you want the ultimate in good looks, decent grip and scratch protection then you won't go far wrong with this one. If you're one of those folks that likes the big armoured cases then this one isn't for you and nothing to see here.
This case will give you some basic protection while still maintaining the look and feel of the phone. And admit it, the look and feel of the HTC One is at least half or more of the reason you bought this awesome phone in the first place! Cheers!

ajua said:
You are welcome. Incipio is a known brand but not in all countries, they make cases for almost every smartphone.
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thats why i love this forum i learn something i may have never found out about

joudbren said:
I've also recently purchased this case in black. I LOVE the look of this case and one of the main features I like is that it still manages to maintain the ultra slim look and feel of the HTC One. This case really does fit well and doesn't detract from the stellar good looks of the phone.
One thing I do look for in these slim cases is that if the top edge of the case is slightly raised above the glass. That's a positive for me as I do not use screen protectors. With the top edge of the case raised just a hair it makes it easier to put my phone face down without worrying about scratching the glass. The Incipio Feather does have this very slight edge thankfully.
The only downside so far is that I've had to return my first case due to cracks. The two top corners of the case started to show stress cracks for some reason. In fairness they could have already been there as the first case I bought was already opened at the store and could have been a previous return. I didn't really check it that closely. It could have also been from me being a little aggressive taking the phone out of the case once to show somebody how slim it was. It fits really well so I may have forced it a little too hard.
The store did replace the case as it was previously opened and I checked the new one pretty carefully so no issues so far with the replacement. I'll post back here if any cracks appear again. Just in case you get one, be careful removing or installing the case and you should be fine. If you want the ultimate in good looks, decent grip and scratch protection then you won't go far wrong with this one. If you're one of those folks that likes the big armoured cases then this one isn't for you and nothing to see here.
This case will give you some basic protection while still maintaining the look and feel of the phone. And admit it, the look and feel of the HTC One is at least half or more of the reason you bought this awesome phone in the first place! Cheers!
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I'm very careful with my phones and cases. I hope yours was only a detail you didn't see when you bought it.
How are you doing with the finger smudges on the back of this case? It's better than I initially thought but I still have to clean it often.
djq said:
thats why i love this forum i learn something i may have never found out about
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Everyone is learning something on this forum all the time

Just something i've noticed since i bought this case. Both the small strips on the sides have cracked. The case is awesome and i really don't care but be for-warned if you are picky.

Tuppidsay said:
Just something i've noticed since i bought this case. Both the small strips on the sides have cracked. The case is awesome and i really don't care but be for-warned if you are picky.
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You can contact Incipio about this. The case comes with a one year warranty and I'm sure they'd be willing to cover that and replace it.:good:

I've bought a few cases for the One and this is definitely my favorite, all the rest I enjoyed but missed the slim line feel. The incipio is the best of both worlds.
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Just ordered one of these.
I'm seeing a lot of reviews on Amazon with the lighter colored ones hazing up flash pictures. Seems to be a common thing with close cutouts for the LED. Black cases are going to be the best to avoid flash interference.

Got mine and yes it's definitely one of the most minmalist cases I've ever used. Be careful with this one as it doesn't afford much in the way of drop protection but you already knew that...
The lip over the screen is a bit shorter than I'd like, still need to be wary of setting it down screen down just in case.
However for those that prefer the naked feel but don't want to be paranoid of scratching the back when sitting on a table, you will like this!
Be wary the plastic cutout piece along the top where the volume rockers and usb charging port are quite thin and can break if stressed too hard when putting the case on and especially taking it off, just take you time and be gentle.
The black finish does show finger grease but is easily cleaned. The incipio dual is the same way. At least it doesn't scratch super easy like some of the smooth and glossy backs.
No case is perfect, that's why I have a drawer full of different cases!

I like the minimalist look, but does anyone know of any similar type 'snap on' cases that has a bigger lip over the corners/edges so that the screen is more protected?
My friend has this case in grey, and hers started peeling/chipping on the back after a few months of use. She contacted Incipio and they'll be sending her a new case which is good...

I picked up a case for my HTC One at best buy. It looks 100% identical except for the logo on the back of the case. Very nice case.

icepixie said:
I like the minimalist look, but does anyone know of any similar type 'snap on' cases that has a bigger lip over the corners/edges so that the screen is more protected?
My friend has this case in grey, and hers started peeling/chipping on the back after a few months of use. She contacted Incipio and they'll be sending her a new case which is good...
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There is the Poetic Palette and Nillkin Hard Case/Shell. I can't say about the front lip for the screen as I don't own them but you can search for pictures and see if it is more prominent than the lip on the feather.

Looks nice and very slim!! :laugh:

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Case Necessary?

I have a 32GB black Nexus 5 ordered and waiting for it. A lot of you have already seemed to ordered/received screen protectors and cases for the Nexus 5 and I was just wondering is a screen protector and/or a case necessary? Is the Nexus 5 likely to be damaged without a case?
If a screen protector is required, what's the difference between a plastic protector, such as from XtremeGuard, or a 'tempered glass' one from Spigen?
Thanks for any help provided.

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I have a 32GB black Nexus 5 ordered and waiting for it. A lot of you have already seemed to ordered/received screen protectors and cases for the Nexus 5 and I was just wondering is a screen protector and/or a case necessary? Is the Nexus 5 likely to be damaged without a case?
If a screen protector is required, what's the difference between a plastic protector, such as from XtremeGuard, or a 'tempered glass' one from Spigen?
Thanks for any help provided.
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You can expect wear and tear on any device. How much occurs depends on what you do to protect it and how careful you are with it. Personally, I hate cases but now that I'm no longer with sprint and use off contract phones I like to protect the resale value of my phone and keep it in mint condition.
As for the tempered glass screen protectors, I have no experience with them. I try to stay away from things that break, such as glass.

adrian089 said:
You can expect wear and tear on any device. How much occurs depends on what you do to protect it and how careful you are with it. Personally, I hate cases but now that I'm no longer with sprint and use off contract phones I like to protect the resale value of my phone and keep it in mint condition.
As for the tempered glass screen protectors, I have no experience with them. I try to stay away from things that break, such as glass.
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I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. I've always kept a case and screen protector on my phones. Reselling these phones when you're ready to upgrade goes much smoother when your phone is in mint condition, with absolutely no wear and tear on it. If someone is going to buy it from you and hand over $200+ in cash, it makes them feel better when the phone looks 2 weeks old rather than over a year old.

The only fear I have is denim stains on the white one. I always keep my phone case-less as I never drop my phone ever. I'm thinking about a case just to prevent denim stains. I got denim stains on my HTC One I'm using now and got them off by using a magic eraser, but I don't want to have to do that every month. Hopefully it's just a HTC problem
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I get the importance of maintaining the phone in good condition, but doesn't putting a case on ruin the aesthetic appeal of the phone and a screen protector reduce the clarity and brightness of the screen? And doesn't a case also make the phone bulkier and heavier?
If so, you all believe this comes secondary to maintaining your phone in good condition?

To me it just depends. If you are capable and willing to fork out the money to replace a broken screen in the unfortunate case that you drop and crack it, then don't use a case. If you aren't, then use a case

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I get the importance of maintaining the phone in good condition, but doesn't putting a case on ruin the aesthetic appeal of the phone and a screen protector reduce the clarity and brightness of the screen? And doesn't a case also make the phone bulkier and heavier?
If so, you all believe this comes secondary to maintaining your phone in good condition?
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While it does lower the overall aesthetic appeal of the phone, I only buy cases that I feel are pleasing enough to the eye. The added bulk isn't usually a concern for me. I also only buy clear screen protectors, so the clarity of the screen isn't affected (to my eyes at least). It does negate most anti-glare features if a phone has them, but again, I've never personally noticed it in the past.
I consider cases and screen protectors a one-time insurance plan purchase for my phone. In 6 years of owning differend smartphones, I've only ever dropped my phone 2 times, and the cases saved both phones. To me, that is a higher priority than the incredibly minor (IMO) aesthetic "hit" that the case provides.
To each their own, though.

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I get the importance of maintaining the phone in good condition, but doesn't putting a case on ruin the aesthetic appeal of the phone and a screen protector reduce the clarity and brightness of the screen? And doesn't a case also make the phone bulkier and heavier?
If so, you all believe this comes secondary to maintaining your phone in good condition?
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The Google play store is selling some pretty nice looking cases with nexus on the back like on the phone itself. As for screen protectors, I don't notice them unless you don't do the best job putting one on and get a ton of bubbles.
Here's a tip for putting on screen protectors if you're like me and you suck at it. Get them to do it at a cell phone store lol.

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I get the importance of maintaining the phone in good condition, but doesn't putting a case on ruin the aesthetic appeal of the phone and a screen protector reduce the clarity and brightness of the screen? And doesn't a case also make the phone bulkier and heavier?
If so, you all believe this comes secondary to maintaining your phone in good condition?
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You can always go with a Bumper Case if you want to maintain the "aesthetic appeal" of the case:
http://www.amazon.com/i-Blason-Goog...qid=1383319857&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+5+bumper
With screen protectors, there are many, many types available.. some will reduce the clarity/brightness, you just have to choose what best fits for you (especially going universal where you cut your own out).
I agree with the other statements, though. I always use a case on my phones, regardless how I feel about its beauty. My current HTC One, which is an awesome looking device, resides in its case

Might I recommend Poetic Borderline bumper! I had one on my Nexus 4 last year and my brother has one for his iPhone. Very nice, very protective, and stills shows off the nice back.

Necessary? No... But neither is dropping a phone or any other accidental damage.
It's better to spend $30 and be protected than not at all.

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Necessary? No... But neither is dropping a phone or any other accidental damage.
It's better to spend $30 and be protected than not at all.
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Depends on the person really. I myself personally use cases to have a better grip to the phone to prevent accidental drops rather than the protection. I haven't dropped my Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 in the time that I've used them.
The protection is always nice as well, as long as it isn't too bulky and offers the minimal protection to the point where nothing would get cracked. At least thats how I see it. Theres a lot of high quality cases that are $10-$20 as well.

Struggling with this myself. I always grab a black Diztronic but the official Google cases tempt me and the actual design of the 5 seems more resilient than in past years.

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Struggling with this myself. I always grab a black Diztronic but the official Google cases tempt me and the actual design of the 5 seems more resilient than in past years.
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+1 on that.. the back of the phone itself seem very grippy. I'm telling myself whether or not to buy a case or just use the phone naked since I am a pretty careful person. I'll probably just get the phone when it gets here and try it for a day or two and if I'm not satisfied then I'll buy a case. Maybe get a slim case just incase.

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+1 on that.. the back of the phone itself seem very grippy. I'm telling myself whether or not to buy a case or just use the phone naked since I am a pretty careful person. I'll probably just get the phone when it gets here and try it for a day or two and if I'm not satisfied then I'll buy a case. Maybe get a slim case just incase.
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I guess the best thing would be to go into the N7 2013 forums and look at how those have held up. Since they share a similar design language and materials, I'm hoping it translates into the smaller package. Plus, they used Ceramic buttons as well. (My Lumia 920 buttons have held up incredibly over then last year.)

no case or screen protector
HiddenAdmiral said:
I get the importance of maintaining the phone in good condition, but doesn't putting a case on ruin the aesthetic appeal of the phone and a screen protector reduce the clarity and brightness of the screen? And doesn't a case also make the phone bulkier and heavier?
If so, you all believe this comes secondary to maintaining your phone in good condition?
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Get one of the anti gravity cases, actually makes it lighter.
I'll spray my screen with Thompsons water seal.

I usually go naked, but I'll use a case for the N5 because the camera sticks out a bit.

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Get one of the anti gravity cases, actually makes it lighter.
I'll spray my screen with Thompsons water seal.
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And with Thompson's you can really get that special shine
Oops, now for some on topic. I am using a moto x naked in all its glory and plan on selling it to recoup m n5 costs and its something you case and protector folks miss out on. The gains far outweigh the risks in my opinion. I also had my launch day n4 naked about 90% of the time and the wife now has it and goes naked too Don't rob yourself of the true experience, I used to always have a case and protector on but not anymore :good:

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And with Thompson's you can really get that special shine
Oops, now for some on topic. I am using a moto x naked in all its glory and plan on selling it to recoup m n5 costs and its something you case and protector folks miss out on. The gains far outweigh the risks in my opinion. I also had my launch day n4 naked about 90% of the time and the wife now has it and goes naked too Don't rob yourself of the true experience, I used to always have a case and protector on but not anymore :good:
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I agree. I'm extra careful with my phone. I've had screen protectors, which have all been taken off. I bought the Spigen case (clear back) and hated it. It would stick to the back of the N4, which made it look like it had liquid between the two. I ended up just sticking with the bumper from Google. It's really all the protection I need, and it really looks classy. I wish they'd make a bumper of the same form for the N5.

Some people just take the philosophy of being careful and go without a case or screen protector, while others take precautions through cases and screen protectors. You could be a very careful person and still end up dropping your phone by accident, or you could have a case plus a screen protector and never drop it anyway.
There is no "right answer", every person has to decide for themselves depending on how they weigh the pluses and minuses.

Screen Protectors?

So since this phone is so inexpensive, are we going to get screen protectors for it? Or just let it go? I'm probably going to get something simple, like this one, just for some basic protection. Is anyone else planning on getting any sort of protection?
Thanks in advance!

I bougth one and after 2 weeks is scratched and has a crack so you should no spend your money on this

Yeah, the tempered glass screen protector is pretty good.

i usually just let it go, feel better than cover any protectors

Hi:
I depends on how do you use you screen.
I have own a Galaxy S, SIII and now this Moto E 2015 , and never ever used a screen protector. No scratches on screen. Nevertheless I know some people using the phone as a kitchen cutting table and have the same results (as the kitchen table).
Gorilla glass is pretty hard though.

I actually have screen protectors on my devices just so because it feels good to know there's an added protection. You may want to check this one.

The Tempered film is a better choice.

Where i live in Canada i could not find one in store.
I was able to see a couple cases but they were super cheaply made and super expensive (in my Mall)
So i didn't buy a case.. i also didn't want a bulky case because i lucked out and found a sweet belt clip case at Wallmart.
The case from Wallmart fits my dimensions perfectly for the phone and has my phone attached to my belt now
I like using my phone to listen to music while i ride my mountain bike.
So what i ended up doing is getting an iPhone 6 protective film for $2 and i just trimmed the top off and laid it on top my phone.
i have 95% of it covered and it looks ok.. i had done a better job but i tried to make it perfect and screwed it up.
Pro Tip: Don't be a perfectionist when making your own cut and paste protective film LOL
Also..
I could have gotten a protective film from a kiosk in my local Mall that is suppose to be strong etc.
The kiosk custom cuts the protective material for any device from watches to phones, so i *could have done that.
But, they wanted about $35 can. after taxes for my cheap phone so i said no thanks.
I do want to ask any of you out there a question (i am fairly new to android phones only had a S3 for a few months before)
What i want to know is are the Gorilla glass screen good enough that i can just ditch the plastic film stuff ?
Like i have seen some guys say online that they don't bother putting a protective skin on the phone.
So what do you guys think ? Maybe i should ditch the protective plastic stuff on my phone ?

xpmule said:
I do want to ask any of you out there a question (i am fairly new to android phones only had a S3 for a few months before)
What i want to know is are the Gorilla glass screen good enough that i can just ditch the plastic film stuff ?
Like i have seen some guys say online that they don't bother putting a protective skin on the phone.
So what do you guys think ? Maybe i should ditch the protective plastic stuff on my phone ?
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gorilla glass is preatty hard, it can survive some hard things like keys or somethig made of metal but there are things that can easy scrach it - for example sand (because it's harder than glass). I can't recommend plastic screen protectors, they do the job but they are real fingerprints magnets. It's impossible to keep it clean. I think you should buy glass protector, you can find cheap ones on some chineese sites with free shipping (it takes like month but I think it's worth)

Today I got my 3$ tempered screen protector form Chinese auction site. The shipping was free, it should take more than 30 days according to info on the site but I've waited only 12 days. IMO the glass quality is very good but it's my first tempered glass protector. Instalation process was easy (even without instruction on the box but there is a lot of videos on YouTube about instalation) though I have small air bubble around proximity sensor. It's my first glass so maybe I've done something wrong. Anyway I'm very happy, I had plastic foil before and it's like day and night. The fell of the glass under the finger is great. IMO this 3$ glass is a great deal.
I bought my one here http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2-5D..._77_91_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_9
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Today that bubble dissapered for itself, now it sticks perfectly. For 3$ I'm more than happy.

Just go get one from XtremeGuard and use a coupon to bring the price down to like $2.

tyvm got all the info i need here

JuanAG said:
I bougth one and after 2 weeks is scratched and has a crack so you should no spend your money on this
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i agree i got it and got it replaced free both times it cracked under a month i wont ever buy it again

I bought a screen protector from amazon called Mr. Shield and it works just fine, no bubbles, no fingerprints on the protector.

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i agree i got it and got it replaced free both times it cracked under a month i wont ever buy it again
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What are you doing with your phones? I have the cheapest Chinese glass protector since November and it's still like new.
eonarma said:
I bought a screen protector from amazon called Mr. Shield and it works just fine, no bubbles, no fingerprints on the protector.
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I had something like that on my last phone and it got really scratched after 1 week, mostly from this metal things around pocket in jeans pants. It made screen look grainy too but it was pretty comfortable to use in sunlight.

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What are you doing with your phones? I have the cheapest Chinese glass protector since November and it's still like new.
I had something like that on my last phone and it got really scratched after 1 week, mostly from this metal things around pocket in jeans pants. It made screen look grainy too but it was pretty comfortable to use in sunlight.
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Ahhh I see, well you could get a case that covers the screen, that way it doesn't get grainy or scratched. Regardless of the screen or screen protector, I think it's not recommended to place your phone on the same pocket you have your keys in, or other metal things.

eonarma said:
Ahhh I see, well you could get a case that covers the screen, that way it doesn't get grainy or scratched. Regardless of the screen or screen protector, I think it's not recommended to place your phone on the same pocket you have your keys in, or other metal things.
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I think about those two metal spots around pocket in most of jeans' pockets. I just want to say that it won't suit for every people, I used something like that and I was really mad about how it made my screen grainy and how soft it was although it performed preatty good in sunlight and fingerprints wasn't so visible. Then I had non matte one, screen looked better but it was real fingerprints magnet. It was harder but still It got scratched after some time. Now I have glass and for me it's the best choice. It's very transparent, very hard and it's not so bad with fingerprints but it's thick so it can colide with some cases (not an issue for me). That's just my opinion about thoose protectors.

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I think about those two metal spots around pocket in most of jeans' pockets. I just want to say that it won't suit for every people, I used something like that and I was really mad about how it made my screen grainy and how soft it was although it performed preatty good in sunlight and fingerprints wasn't so visible. Then I had non matte one, screen looked better but it was real fingerprints magnet. It was harder but still It got scratched after some time. Now I have glass and for me it's the best choice. It's very transparent, very hard and it's not so bad with fingerprints but it's thick so it can colide with some cases (not an issue for me). That's just my opinion about thoose protectors.
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A glass screen protector? Sounds interesting I've never used one before. Sounds interesting, how's he's your experience been with it?

eonarma said:
A glass screen protector? Sounds interesting I've never used one before. Sounds interesting, how's he's your experience been with it?
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Well I bought mine for 2$ on chinese site (aliexpress). It's cheap, preatty easy to install, very scratch resistant and very clear, screen looks bright and it feels great under the finger. The downsides are that it's thick so it won't work well with every case, I use it with orginal grip shell and it's good combo because of the case design: http://forum.android.com.pl/uploads/monthly_12_2015/post-142525-0-25574200-1451048167.jpg The second problem is that the oleophobic coating wears off but after 2-3 months it's still not so bad (but it was better when it was new).

iks8 said:
Well I bought mine for 2$ on chinese site (aliexpress). It's cheap, preatty easy to install, very scratch resistant and very clear, screen looks bright and it feels great under the finger. The downsides are that it's thick so it won't work well with every case, I use it with orginal grip shell and it's good combo because of the case design: http://forum.android.com.pl/uploads/monthly_12_2015/post-142525-0-25574200-1451048167.jpg The second problem is that the oleophobic coating wears off but after 2-3 months it's still not so bad (but it was better when it was new).
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Awsome, I'll try one someday, the plastic one I have feels to smooth on the finger, as in it sometimes feel like if you are not really sliding your finger on the surface