Iris and print? - Note 7 Questions & Answers
So can you use the iris scanner and back it up with a fingerprint too? Not 2 factor but in regular use cases like driving a car or wearing sunglasses, or simply hitting the home button to power the screen on?
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I believe you're asking if the Iris Unlock and Fingerprint Unlock can both exist as an unlock option at the same time so you're free to choose whichever one you want to use whenever you want?
Kinda like... normally, you would want to use the fingerprint unlock, but on those days when its raining and your hands are wet, you can simply swipe up to activate Iris Unlock instead?
If that's what you're asking, I believe YEP it can!
If you take a pause at 03:04, on the unlock screen that he has, there's this message that says,
"Use fingerprint to unlock or swipe screen to use iris instead."
It looks like the reviewer has both set up so he's free to use either option as his choice.
Even if this would be possible, I woudn't use it to compromise security.
There's no sense for an iris scanner, if the informations can be accessed by a fingerprint scan.
And when your finger is wet, just dry and use it.
I really preferr fingerprint scan to unlock the system and iris scan, to access very confident informations (telebanking, passwort store and so on).
Zolares said:
I believe you're asking if the Iris Unlock and Fingerprint Unlock can both exist as an unlock option at the same time so you're free to choose whichever one you want to use whenever you want?
Kinda like... normally, you would want to use the fingerprint unlock, but on those days when its raining and your hands are wet, you can simply swipe up to activate Iris Unlock instead?
If that's what you're asking, I believe YEP it can!
If you take a pause at 03:04, on the unlock screen that he has, there's this message that says,
"Use fingerprint to unlock or swipe screen to use iris instead."
It looks like the reviewer has both set up so he's free to use either option as his choice.
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Exactly right. You can set both up and use whichever you prefer in any occasion.
hkr said:
Even if this would be possible, I woudn't use it to compromise security.
There's no sense for an iris scanner, if the informations can be accessed by a fingerprint scan.
And when your finger is wet, just dry and use it.
I really preferr fingerprint scan to unlock the system and iris scan, to access very confident informations (telebanking, passwort store and so on).
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I don't understand how this combination would compromise security, since the level of security of fingerprints and iris scanner remains unchanged.
On a whole, the Iris Scanner is already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner.
From what I know of the phone, even if you use the Iris Scanner as an option to unlock the device, you're still able to use it as the unlocking method for a more confidential storage option like the Secure Folder.
Since its two different things, you're free to use the more secure Iris Scanner to both unlock the system and to access confidential information.
But I believe, fingerprint scanner would be used more simply because its quicker to unlock on a typical use case than the extra step for the Iris Scanner.
Honestly, I'm very excited about this combination.
A few months back, I ran into this scenario where I tripped and fell on my hands. Ended up scraping my fingers against the concrete and it tore some skin and left some scars that didn't leave for a few weeks. So at the time, fingerprint unlocking didn't work and since I primarily used Fingerprint Unlock, I forgot my backup password and had to rely on the GMail option to unlock device.
For a few weeks, I had to switch to using a Pattern Unlock till I healed enough to switch back to Fingerprint.
Now, if I had this phone, I could simply switch to the Iris Scanner and unlock without having to bother with the entire trouble of trying to remember backup password, gmail unlock, and switching to Pattern Unlock.
The Iris scanner is, as you write, "already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner".
But if you use both in parallel, you reduce your security level to the Fingerprint Scan.
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations.
Iris scan does not bring any additional security, if you use it in parallel with fingerprint scan, unless you don't forget to put all your sensitive informations in the secure folder ...
hkr said:
The Iris scanner is, as you write, "already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner".
But if you use both in parallel, you reduce your security level to the Fingerprint Scan.
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations.
Iris scan does not bring any additional security, if you use it in parallel with fingerprint scan, unless you don't forget to put all your sensitive informations in the secure folder ...
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Ahh, I misunderstood you.
So you meant that using both would give people a less secure option to get into your device when its safer to just use the more secure method?
I misunderstood because in your original post, it sounded like you preferred the fingerprint unlock for unlocking device and would rather dry your fingers instead of using the iris unlock.
The wording confused me.
hkr said:
The Iris scanner is, as you write, "already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner".
But if you use both in parallel, you reduce your security level to the Fingerprint Scan.
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations.
Iris scan does not bring any additional security, if you use it in parallel with fingerprint scan, unless you don't forget to put all your sensitive informations in the secure folder ...
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Fully agree with you but also personally I don't care. It isn't about added security for me. Finger is fine. I just want gloves on convenience.
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hkr said:
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations. ...
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If someone has my finger to open my phone, I have bigger problems than them getting access to whatever is on my phone...
He doesn't need your finger, a fingerprint on a glass will do nicely
With the Iris Scan it's a bit more tricky, there he might need your eye ...
Maybe a good reason, not to use Iris scan, if you mess around with the wrong people ...
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Why Finger Print not never needed
I entered one finger print successfully on my new Oneplus 3. I can't find how to set it to be used ever - instead of a PIN for example. It never seems to be requested. But I haven't tried to use Android Pay yet. Is there something else I should set?. - Mike
You might be just amazed by a blazingly fast fingerprint sensor. Try to unlock your phone with another finger.
Also, you don't need to do the fingerprint again for Android Pay if you've already unlocked the phone.
nottheusualtoday said: I entered one finger print successfully on my new Oneplus 3. I can't find how to set it to be used ever - instead of a PIN for example. It never seems to be requested. But I haven't tried to use Android Pay yet. Is there something else I should set?. - Mike Click to expand... Click to collapse Well. You can unlock the phone with it, except the first time after a reboot. You can also us it in Play Store instead of a password for purchases. Chrome can use it, I have heard (not working in Firefox which I'm using). You set a PIN in Lockscreen settings, add a few fingerprints from different hands (make sure you scan it like you would unlocking with one hand) and it'll automagically use the fingerprint sensor instead of a Lockscreen PIN (but you could use a PIN too if you want to). The lockscreen fingerprint isn't "requested" per se, it just works. You see a small fingerprint thumbnail instead of a lock icon. Or did I misunderstand you here?
How can I completely disable the fingerprint sensor?
I don't really like all the hype about the fingerprint sensor, I'd rather like to have it killed down, so that it doesn't have any chance register any fingerprints. On a desktop Linux I'd simply `modprobe -r` the relevant kernel module. Can I do something like that on Android? I don't want to simply disable it in the settings - then I have to trust the system that nothing really uses it.
im not sure if this can be done. try to find the fingerprint set up apk. I believe if you delete this apk it will FC every time you try to register a fingerprint. other wise set a pin and you wouldn't be able to register fingerprint without knowing your pin.
Way to unlock phone with fingerprint sensor (Without storing a finger print)
Is there a way to use the fingerprint sensor to unlock the phone, but not having to keep the finger print stored? Several people use my phone, and I never keep my phone locked because there's nothing secret on there. I find it very useful to use the fingerprint sensor as its int a natural spot when you pick the phone up. But i hate having the phone locked I've tried double tap to wake before and it's always been very spotty. I would like to save my hardware buttons.
No, sorry. Sent from my Pixel XL
Novakingwai said: Is there a way to use the fingerprint sensor to unlock the phone, but not having to keep the finger print stored? Several people use my phone, and I never keep my phone locked because there's nothing secret on there. I find it very useful to use the fingerprint sensor as its int a natural spot when you pick the phone up. But i hate having the phone locked I've tried double tap to wake before and it's always been very spotty. I would like to save my hardware buttons. Click to expand... Click to collapse You can have several different user account..
Exactly how many use your phone? Why not store a fingerprint for each one of those users.
Couldn't you just make your screen lock a swipe? Or none? It doesn't use the fingerprint sensor, but it achieves your goal.
Verify your identity prompt on all banking apps
Whenever I open my banking app I get a fingerprint prompt the screen goes dark and asks you to use your fingerprint to verify your identity it's really annoying and I've tried but can't find a way to remove it, it never happened on my note 8!
Turn off finger print then. On some apps the fingerprint screen will pop up and darken the screen so it can show the information about the finger print scanning
do you use facial recognition? with my Note 9 due to Iris scan it basically let me in unlocking that way as it is secure, but with facial recognition on the Note 10 I was having trouble getting to use Google Pay and other secure apps, requiring extra security in the form of fingerprint or pin, I'm guessing due to the removal of Iris scan (my biggest disappointment) you need to either use fingerprint or the pin if you want to use secure stuff.
Are you running your app within the secure folder? Maybe that's verifying you before running the app?
Banking apps always require some autentication when accesing, as per security reasons, they log you out every time you leave the app
xile6 said: Turn off finger print then. On some apps the fingerprint screen will pop up and darken the screen so it can show the information about the finger print scanning Click to expand... Click to collapse I've tried turn it on and off also tried deleting the fingerprint and re scanning them still nothing
Belimawr said: do you use facial recognition? with my Note 9 due to Iris scan it basically let me in unlocking that way as it is secure, but with facial recognition on the Note 10 I was having trouble getting to use Google Pay and other secure apps, requiring extra security in the form of fingerprint or pin, I'm guessing due to the removal of Iris scan (my biggest disappointment) you need to either use fingerprint or the pin if you want to use secure stuff. Click to expand... Click to collapse Noni don't only fps
papashex said: Are you running your app within the secure folder? Maybe that's verifying you before running the app? Click to expand... Click to collapse No I'm not I did also try through secure folder had same problem
winol said: Banking apps always require some autentication when accesing, as per security reasons, they log you out every time you leave the app Click to expand... Click to collapse I'm aware of this but it doesn't explain or fix the prompt
fhads2122 said: I'm aware of this but it doesn't explain or fix the prompt Click to expand... Click to collapse my banking app has the option to turn it off in the app
jerrycoffman45 said: my banking app has the option to turn it off in the app Click to expand... Click to collapse Yeah so does mine
fhads2122 said: Yeah so does mine Click to expand... Click to collapse Not understanding. If you want the fingerprint prompt off. Then turn off finger print in your bank app. Also is it a finger print login or samsung pass login?
xile6 said: Not understanding. If you want the fingerprint prompt off. Then turn off finger print in your bank app. Also is it a finger print login or samsung pass login? Click to expand... Click to collapse I do understand but I want my fps on but without the prompt like I said I never had this issue with my banking apps on my note 8 It's a finger print log in from the banking app
I think they are having the same issue I am with one of my apps. The app allows for fingerprint verification, however the setup requires you to type in your password, however in I can't do that as the fingerprint overlay is full screen abs I cannot enter my password. What I would like is just a spot on the screen that says here put your finger here.... not a whole screen dedicated to the process.
Bizarre BUG HELP: Suddenly Can't set number/ pattern lock without adding fingerprint
Hi there, Please help me with this weird bug in my MM3's lock function. I haven't read about it anywhere else and I did not update or tweak my rooted system in any way so I'm at a loss as to what caused this probleman d how to fix it. I am no longer able to employ a simple numerical or pattern screen lock. I go to settings, choose and then confirm the number or pattern, and hit accept -- at which point it asks me for a fingerprint (which I do not want to add) and when I hit cancel, the phone remains unlocked. If I hit add a fingerprint and refuse to present my finger, the phone also remains unlocked. This is so freaking weird! (MM3 rooted but on stock Android 9 PKQ1.181007.001 -- Miui Global 11.0.6 Stable) Honestly, I wouldn't give a damn as I never use a screen lock except I am in fact forced to use it every few weeks or whenever I want to review my Brave browser passwords. It forces me to set a lock screen in order to see them. So if there's a workaround just to see passwords, that would do me fine. Because the basic number and pattern locks aren't functioning properly, I wouldn't even consider adding a fingerprint (and in fact, I have never done so. I have a probably irrational distrust of fingerprint, voice and retina security ... plus I live alone so such measures aren't necessary) Can anyone give me any clues as to what could be causing this and how to fix it or get around it? Or even if there is a way to see my Brave passwords without employing a lock? Theoretically, I could try temporarily installing a fingerprint lock which I could then remove after reviewing my Brave passwords. But I have an irrational dislike of fingerprint, voice and retina locks and never use that stuff. Moreover, given the basic number and gesture locks aren't functioning properly, the last thing I want to do is try a fingerprint.