I was just wondering...
I called AT&T tech support and they didn't understand what I was talking about, however they swore that this system is SECURE.
The H810 recently got the 21y update which makes it the second AT&T phone to get the Wifi calling option. Its a cool feature, but I WILL NOT do this on a public LAN. Here is why:
1) on a telephony network, a phone can not connect to another phone because they are on a sub-network that doesn't allow for multiple devices to communicate.
2) on a LAN network, I can samba share because the network is not set to the level of security as the phone network is.
3) I can Wireshark my network, find the VOIP data packets, string them together, & rebuild the audio file of the wifi calling conversation
4) Cain & Able has an auto tool that does this, but you have to know how to arp poison if there are firewalls.
How secure is this? As secure as the Wifi network you're on...
What are your thoughts?
Anyone willing to create a Youtube of this?
I am really busy & may not get the chance to do this for another month or so...
bigjohnman said:
I was just wondering...
I called AT&T tech support and they didn't understand what I was talking about, however they swore that this system is SECURE.
The H810 recently got the 21y update which makes it the second AT&T phone to get the Wifi calling option. Its a cool feature, but I WILL NOT do this on a public LAN. Here is why:
1) on a telephony network, a phone can not connect to another phone because they are on a sub-network that doesn't allow for multiple devices to communicate.
2) on a LAN network, I can samba share because the network is not set to the level of security as the phone network is.
3) I can Wireshark my network, find the VOIP data packets, string them together, & rebuild the audio file of the wifi calling conversation
4) Cain & Able has an auto tool that does this, but you have to know how to arp poison if there are firewalls.
How secure is this? As secure as the Wifi network you're on...
What are your thoughts?
Anyone willing to create a Youtube of this?
I am really busy & may not get the chance to do this for another month or so...
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I'm fairly certain it uses IPsec, so I'm guessing it's secure.
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Hi,
Does anyone know of any app that restricts data connection to only when in WCDMA (UMTS 3G) network?
Reason why is that i use my Dopod D810 to surf the net and download files. However i have managed to rack up $320 in roaming charges for internet usage even though i am on a 1 GB XSeries plan on 3.
I was not aware that i was roaming at all. So in future, i want my phone to automatically disconnect when "Roaming".
Is there such an app? I have tried Bandswitch but i couldnt get it to do what i wanted.
use search.
There is an app called trinity hacks or something that adds this feature.
Are you sure? I have Trinity Hacks v0.3 and it doesnt seem to have this feature.
What i want is for my phone to automatically disconnect once it is "roaming" onto Telstra's network from the 3 network.
Yes,
Trinity Hacks v0.3 --> Phone tab --> 'Enable GSM/UMTS Band Selection'
Ticking this enables a new tab under 'Settings' --> 'Phone' --> 'Band'
Switch it from 'auto' to 'WCDMA'
Then you will never incur roaming charges on Telstra network.
Yeah i already have that setup.
What i want is to be able to Roam to Telstra so i get full PHONE coverage, but once it goes to roaming, i want the data connection to automatically disconnect.
What you have asked me to do is to permanently connect only to 3G which means i cannot get reception everywhere.
Does that make sense?
What you want is not possible without some serious programming! The Radio stack can be set to connect to GSM, UMTS/WCDMA or either, but you can't split voice and data functionality.
Hi,
Thanks for all your replies, but im not asking for voice and data functionality to be split. The phone can already tell whether it is roaming or on the home network. Isn't it just a matter of getting this information from the phone possibly via the OS API and then when the phone returns a value to signify that its roaming, then the program will disconnect the connection, just like pressing the disconnect button, but this time programmatically?
Im not asking for someone to write something like this, but if something already exist like this.
Maybe this reply is not needed anymore sinds the thread is one month old. Still, I use spb grps monitor. It has a lot of customization option. Maybe it has a feature that will do the trick. I'm not going to look into it myself. Just wanted to give you a headsup.
Dear all,
since one week I have the TP2 and like it a lot. Until the TP2 I used to have an Iphone3G and now of course I have to change my user behaviour a little bit.
There is one big topic I would like to discuss here: DataConnections!
I have the problem, that I dont have a flat option for data from my provider. I have to pay by time and not by traffic. Hence I like to keep the time I am connected to the Net to a minimum!
Is it possible to realise the following with the TP2 (maybe with extra software)?
1. Mobile data connection only manually with immediate cut off after the transfer (for example if I press send/receive for mail). If I want to manually access the net there should be a short message box asking me to connect. Currently I have to use the CommCenter to switch data connection on/off. As I already use nodata to really cut off the automated connection behaviour, maybe this tool can also be used somehow to allow access and cut it off after the sending/receiving is done.
2. Wifi Scan constantly in the background (after manually switching it on) to scan for open networks or prefered networks. If some network is found, it automatically connects, checks internet, do all the other automated updates and stays connected until I manually disable wifi.
As you can see, I want to have some kind of automated, cost efficient, connection behaviour of TP2. The tool nodata, which I currently use is great to cut off the automated connection but is not very flexible
I am looking forward to exchange with you on that topic.
Regards,
dvdjimmy
...does really nobody else need something like this? Or am I just too stupid to use the onboard tools of wm6.1 correctly?
Regards,
dvdjimmy
take a look at bandswitch or commmgrpro...
you can use this registry entry,
for example this will kill automatic the connection after 10 seconds,
or if you dont use...
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime = 10 (sec.)
SuspendResume = GPRS_bye_if_device_off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Dear all,
thank you for your suggestions. The registry is already a good start for me. Many thx. The commgrpro also looks very good. It seems to allow also the disconnect after a certain amount of time.
Anyway, I think I have to program it on my own: My dream would be to have a software which I can tell that I allow Access to the net from now on. Then the software is switching on wlan in the background and constantly scans for open or prefered networks. If such a network is found I would like to get connected to it. If somehow the WLAN connection breaks down and access to the net is no longer possible, the app should ask if I would like to use UMTS instead of WLAN right now. If I answer yes, WLAN is switched off, the data connection is switched on, the transfer is taking place and afterwards the connection is cut off completely and WLAN is switched on again and hopefully finds another open access again
So the main benefit would be, that automatically only the WLAN is allowed to connect. All the dataconnection by UMTS have to be allowed and are immediately switched off.
I would like to program something like this if you can help me on how to start with it, as I have not programmed a lot for the WM Platform until now.
With best regards,
Joachim
I've just got hold of an HTC Mozart 7 for testing purposes at work before we consider dishing these our to users. (On the Orange Network)
Unlike the previous versions of Windows Mobile, I cannot find anywhere to specify the proxy server address so that browsing goes through our corporate proxy server.
Can anyone help/shed any light on this?
Cheers,
pno
Nope, I've not been able to find this either....
I can't connect to my hidden WiFi network at work, so can't really use the Proxy server anyways....
Hoping the WP7 SP1 has some of these simplistic fixes in there...
On some old Qtek devices we had we used to be able to force all web access to first go through the proxy, be it WiFi or mobile data.
Connect to your wifi network, where it shows the list of networks it should show yours and say connected.
Tap on the name and it will list the connection details and also allow you to add a proxy.
loomx said:
Connect to your wifi network, where it shows the list of networks it should show yours and say connected.
Tap on the name and it will list the connection details and also allow you to add a proxy.
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^ This. I use my wp7 through our proxy all the time.
Fine for Wifi traffic, but I also need to regulate the mobile data traffic
pnopine said:
Fine for Wifi traffic, but I also need to regulate the mobile data traffic
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That can be done legally?
addicus said:
That can be done legally?
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Yes.
We provide and pay for the devices and service, we also set out the terms of use/company policy when using a company device, and in order to preserve the security and integrity of our network, there are certain network resources which we prohibit users to access, we control this by means of a proxy server.
It's no different to being in the office and getting your Internet access through a proxy server.
yeah I'm pretty dissapointed with WP7 so far - Its like they've 'dumbed' it down to the point of being useable only by my 3 year old and my grandma.
For businesses I see allot of problems - Not being able to deploy apps without marketplace is going to be a nightmare (I don't want to have to create multiple live.com accounts just to get downloads!).
PAP Authentication is not currently support - useless for private APN's.
Proxy not being supported is a biggie problem I have too mate
zoomee said:
yeah I'm pretty dissapointed with WP7 so far - Its like they've 'dumbed' it down to the point of being useable only by my 3 year old and my grandma.
For businesses I see allot of problems - Not being able to deploy apps without marketplace is going to be a nightmare (I don't want to have to create multiple live.com accounts just to get downloads!).
PAP Authentication is not currently support - useless for private APN's.
Proxy not being supported is a biggie problem I have too mate
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MS has said that at the start it will be consumer focus with business focus coming throughout 2011. As for no proxy, proxy is available through wifi. once connected, press and hold on the connected wifi spot and click edit. you can adjust proxy settings there.
it isn't available through 3G, but then again, i'm not sure if this is capable of any phone is it? or if the carriers like it either?
The Gate Keeper said:
MS has said that at the start it will be consumer focus with business focus coming throughout 2011. As for no proxy, proxy is available through wifi. once connected, press and hold on the connected wifi spot and click edit. you can adjust proxy settings there.
it isn't available through 3G, but then again, i'm not sure if this is capable of any phone is it? or if the carriers like it either?
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Do you have find a solution? I need a PAP auth for my APN.
Thanks
Tony
pnopine said:
Yes.
We provide and pay for the devices and service, we also set out the terms of use/company policy when using a company device, and in order to preserve the security and integrity of our network, there are certain network resources which we prohibit users to access, we control this by means of a proxy server.
It's no different to being in the office and getting your Internet access through a proxy server.
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and how do you keep the end users from editing that?
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and how do you keep the end users from editing that?
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That was going to be my question...even if you could force their network traffic through your proxy, what stops them just disabling it again?
Perhaps, your company policy requires it? But even if it is possible, is it enforceable?
Does anybody know how to disable wispr on the at&t devices?
I have tried to look up the security aspects of wispr and haven't found much. I can tell it authenticates, but I can't tell if the connection is required to be encrypted. As such, I'd rather not connect to an AP I didn't ask it to connect to. Maybe there is a way to disable it thru the diagnostics app on Focus.
Thanks in advance.
Sandman_A_C said:
Does anybody know how to disable wispr on the at&t devices?
I have tried to look up the security aspects of wispr and haven't found much. I can tell it authenticates, but I can't tell if the connection is required to be encrypted. As such, I'd rather not connect to an AP I didn't ask it to connect to. Maybe there is a way to disable it thru the diagnostics app on Focus.
Thanks in advance.
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It just connects you to ATT hotspots automatically and not any random wifi AP. If you are still paranoid, you can just disable wifi when not in use.
I understand it's only at&t hotspots, but I'm not sure how that helps. I have no idea what type of security if any is implemented on those hotspots.
I do realize I can simply turn off wifi, but I don't always remember do to that. The fact of the mater is they pushed out a change to my device that allows it to connect to aps that I simply didn't approve or set the device up for. I should be able to isolate this feature and turn it off.
I have no T-Mobile tower reception at work, and was looking forward to the wifi calling capability to come to the rescue with this new phone/service. Unfortunately, my work wifi requires a proxy-serverort for browser connection, and once I update the wireless connection with these settings - I am able to browse fine.
Regardless of the wireless signal strength, the WiFi Calling status states : Poor WiFi signal, before timing out with REG99 error - unable to connect. I have also noticed on this phone and the HTC EVO 4G, that while on wifi at work, my download speeds (via speednet) are high (>10mbps), but nothing shows up in the upload section.
Given the above, and knowledgeable of the fact that my corporate network does shut down access to other ports - is there any workaround to enable wifi calling behind a proxied network? I have even tried to add a new APN to include the proxyort to no avail.
wifi calling from the home network works without any issues, and yes i am rooted.
TIA for any help.
Found the solution. Turns out that accessing the proxied wireless network was the root cause of the issue. We also have access to a guest network, that interestingly does not require a proxy connection to the outside world, and that works perfectly fine!
Still unanswered then, is what ports does this phone require that are being blocked by the proxy server?
I would also like to know the answer to this. I do not have access to another wifi server to test this. What is weird though is that my Sensation that I just got rid of had no issues with wifi calling on the same network, explain that!