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I need to return my Dinc2 to Verizon for a replacement. I flashed the "return to stock" image from the very helpful post by Condemned Soul http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24854198 so now I am still s-off and the bootloader reads "Revolutionary" and s-off (see attached image). I read in posts that this is not an issue for Verizon and that they will not give me a hard time about a void warranty. I just want to verify this before I send the phone in as I am also cancelling my service with them.
Has anyone had a problem regarding warranty with returning a phone that is s-off to Verizon? Can I return it with S-off as I have read posted? I don't really want to risk bricking it changing to s-on.
Here is the state of the phone now:
Android version- 2.3.4
Software #- 5.10.605.9
Baseband- 20.32W.30.0813U_1.09.01.1111
I have attached a pic of the bootloader
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Thanks.
It don't matter, I sent mine in the same way and they didn't say anything lol.
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What exactly is this, or what do the two terms mean?
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JehC said:
It don't matter, I sent mine in the same way and they didn't say anything lol.
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Thanks. After checking further I could not find anyone who had a problem. I sent it this afternoon. I plan on selling the replacement.
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What exactly is this, or what do the two terms mean?
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What terms are you asking about?
S-on and S-off
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S-on and S-off
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Security on/off. If you plan on doing any flashing this is one of the first things you need to learn about, after you learn how to use the search function
Coming from an optimus s that I learned to flash on, and going into a "root your s3"thread, then to a custom Rom thread, I never saw the terms mentioned. And I read them many times along with other Rom threads.
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This only my 3rd smart phone. I had the HTC Incredible and Inc 2 before. Maybe that LG doesn't use it.
S-ON/OFF is specific to HTC, it's their way of letting you use the HTCDev unlock to flash custom ROMs without unlocking everything, so theoretically it's harder to brick your phone.
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Here is a place to discuss the current methods of S-Off.
We have Sonic2765's java card which will always work, and a promised method from beaups.
Sonic's Java Card will work on any device.
Sonic's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427960
Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
So, it seems safe to take the OTA, but I am not responsible if this is incorrect.
This is amazing! Was waiting for this since I didn't have another phone to use so I could send mine to Sonic. Also glad that beaups said that it WILL work with the latest OTA! Just glad for an exploit since my original One had to be exchanged...
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Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
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That, sir, is great news. Cause I'm sick of getting reminded to update..
Any idea if he hopes to release sometime soon? Or after 4.3 is released?
More than likely after 4.3 would be my guess. We wouldn't want verizon to include a fix for the exploit with 4.3 causing a delay in the release. I don't know for sure, just my guess.
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Yea, I think waiting would be a good idea.. AT&T certified their 4.3 recently and it's rolling out now.. hopefully VZW is not far behind. I need FREEDOM!!
Shame... VZ is supposed to release it at the very end of October. Personally, I would rather have it released now
I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
This is awesome news!
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I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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I don't know shall we wait until after 4.3? I suppose even if we wait nothing will stop Verizon from releasing a small ota even after the 4.3 release to patch the exploit. so waiting may not have much benefit ..
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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There will always be that problem with getting replacement phones but with Verizon we know how slow they are for getting updates out. I remember the method for rooting the bolt was the same for years until ics came out.
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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yea...but someone who is going to s-off should have the common sense to read the forums before updating...plus most people that are planning on buying ones already have bought them
With the news of the root method found I am sure we will see many people who left the one come back and people considering the one but waiting for a root exploit will now buy the one.
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Super excited to see this happen. This phone is unreal running stock. I just hate having stock anything. I modify everything I own lol cars, computers, tablets, phones, u name it. If I buy it I tweek it.
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Dark Jedi said:
It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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It will be released when beaups feels that it is ready to be released. He is probably taking his time to make the process as safe as possible for as many people as possible. Just because he found a method doesn't necessarily mean that it is safe and easy to use in its current form. Be patient and be glad that it exists at all.
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Thats a valid point, I just don't see benefit in waiting. but like nexus said, they could release a small patch right after 4.3 and we would have the same outcome. or they may find this exploit before we even release it and the will just patch it in 4.3 either way. But i would like to thank beaups for putting in the time and effort! I know this stuff isn't easy so thanks!
I wish he would make a thread so people could give him thanks and he could give us updates on the process.
I'm not waiting on any vzw updates. Just need to get everything done. It will be done "soon".
The 25th of February was the last time I asked this, and it's been a week and a day since then, so I figured that its an appropriate time to ask.
Can a stock Verizon HTC One (the standard One, not Max, not Mini, not dual-SIM) running stock Android 4.4.2 KitKat OTA be rooted yet?
Thanks,
Andrew
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nikalsaki said:
The 25th of February was the last time I asked this, and it's been a week and a day since then, so I figured that its an appropriate time to ask.
Can a stock Verizon HTC One (the standard One, not Max, not Mini, not dual-SIM) running stock Android 4.4.2 KitKat OTA be rooted yet?
Thanks,
Andrew
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Nope. You'll see a thread pop up when its possible. Just scan around the Verizon HTC One forums. When an update happens there's usually chatter in the Rumrunner thread.
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It'll happen when it happens. I want to root my phone as much as the next guy, particularly so that the titanium backup app I paid good money for will have a purpose, but having previously come from a sprint gs II, the "stock" version of this phone is leagues ahead of others I've seen. Root is almost unnecessary.
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Aganar said:
Root is almost unnecessary.
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I agree with you 99%. In fact the only reason I want to root this phone is so I can install adaway.
Tethering
I need root to tether as the 4.4.2 update killed Foxfi. There is no way in HELL I am paying $30 to Verizon just to tether my phone to my computer (I have unlimited data)
KOAO said:
I need root to tether as the 4.4.2 update killed Foxfi. There is no way in HELL I am paying $30 to Verizon just to tether my phone to my computer (I have unlimited data)
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Not to mention you would also lose you unlimited data if you did go with Verizon's service. I'm in the same boat, my Foxfi got killed with the update and I considered paying for the mobile hotspot feature but said hell no to giving up my unlim data.
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Root is almost unnecessary.
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Can't agree with you. Verizon installs a bunch of unneeded software which just drains your battery. Also you can't create a hot-spot. That's ridiculous - they're taking money for a built-in android feature. So having root gives you a real advantage of re-flashing your device with custom firmware and getting rid of all the limitations Verizon put on you.
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Can't agree with you. Verizon installs a bunch of unneeded software which just drains your battery. Also you can't create a hot-spot. That's ridiculous - they're taking money for a built-in android feature. So having root gives you a real advantage of re-flashing your device with custom firmware and getting rid of all the limitations Verizon put on you.
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You can disable most of the bloat software. Just go into your settings, go to app manager, go to all and tap on whatever you want to disable. It will make it like the app was never there.
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You can disable most of the bloat software. Just go into your settings, go to app manager, go to all and tap on whatever you want to disable. It will make it like the app was never there.
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That doesn't exactly fix the problem of the apps taking up valuable space. I kinda agree with both of you. I think that without root this phone, unlike the S4 and others, is mostly enjoyable and still smooth. However, with root it just adds a nice amount of gravy. I like being able to perform nandroids/flash firmwares/etc, use Titanium Backup, flash any rom I please with useful features (like double tap to wake so I don't have to use the poorly placed power button), use Xposed modules, use Adaway, use emulators with a PS3 controller, etc etc.
Root vs not rooted is irrelevant to the OP. The OP wants root.
I highly recommend checking with sonic or checking with mobile tech videos.
It is probably possible to downgrade the firmware to make the phone vulnerable to S-off
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Disagree with those who say rooting is unnecessary. It is like opening a window to endless opportunities on your phone , sort of like Alice through the Looking Glass. It is very worth it. I have been rooted since version 4.2 and to me defines the very concept of Android being open source. Verizon tries to limit the Android like Apple does to the iPhone.
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xdadevnube said:
Root vs not rooted is irrelevant to the OP. The OP wants root.
I highly recommend checking with sonic or checking with mobile tech videos.
It is probably possible to downgrade the firmware to make the phone vulnerable to S-off
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It's not possible to downgrade firmware..unless, of course, you're s-off. If there's a way to achieve s-off for the VZW HTC One on 4.4.2, it will be seen here in the VZW HTC One forums. There's a new thread everyday asking the same question.
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It's not possible to downgrade firmware..unless, of course, you're s-off. If there's a way to achieve s-off for the VZW HTC One on 4.4.2, it will be seen here in the VZW HTC One forums. There's a new thread everyday asking the same question.
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Are you sure that Sonic's card method or Mobile Tech Videos can't do it?
Unless you confirm with them, I still suspect it is possible.
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Are you sure that Sonic's card method or Mobile Tech Videos can't do it?
Unless you confirm with them, I still suspect it is possible.
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I'm 100% positive you can't downgrade firmware. Sonics java card is the only other possibility. Don't think anyone has had any luck contacting him, though (check out the java card s-off thread). I know I tried before 4.3 was exploited. If mobile tech videos had a method, you would have seen a thread somewhere in this forum.
Basically all I was getting at is that if there's a way to achieve s-off on 4.4.2, there would be chatter here.
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I'm 100% positive you can't downgrade firmware. Sonics java card is the only other possibility. Don't think anyone has had any luck contacting him, though (check out the java card s-off thread). I know I tried before 4.3 was exploited. If mobile tech videos had a method, you would have seen a thread somewhere in this forum.
Basically all I was getting at is that if there's a way to achieve s-off on 4.4.2, there would be chatter here.
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No offense, but you are saying neither Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos have been contacted...
Therefore, your conclusion that it is not possible to downgrade firmware is based on nothing.
Like I said, until I see it from the horses mouth, it is still a possibility. Sonic has achieved S-off for many people and I haven't seen anything to tarnish his good reputation. The Java card will likely work on the latest update.
I do not speak for Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos. Until either party provides a confirmation themselves, I WILL NOT FALSLEY CONCLUDE IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
People said the exact and thing about the VZW Note 2. AS IT TURNS OUT, Mobile Tech Videos can downgrade the firmware on the VZW Note 2 with JTag. They confirmed when they were emailed. They charge 75$ for the valuable service.
You may be correct in that there is currently no cost free method to downgrade the firmware on the VZW HTC One on the latest OTA.
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No offense, but you are saying neither Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos have been contacted...
Therefore, your conclusion that it is not possible to downgrade firmware is based on nothing.
Like I said, until I see it from the horses mouth, it is still a possibility. Sonic has achieved S-off for many people and I haven't seen anything to tarnish his good reputation. The Java card will likely work on the latest update.
I do not speak for Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos. Until either party provides a confirmation themselves, I WILL NOT FALSLEY CONCLUDE IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
People said the exact and thing about the VZW Note 2. AS IT TURNS OUT, Mobile Tech Videos can downgrade the firmware on the VZW Note 2 with JTag. They confirmed when they were emailed. They charge 75$ for the valuable service.
You may be correct in that there is currently no cost free method to downgrade the firmware on the VZW HTC One on the latest OTA.
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SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO
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brholt6 said:
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO
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I'll give it a shot. It's better than useless naysaying and spreading FUD without the info to back it up.
I will get back with an answer. Unless you beat me to it.
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I'll give it a shot. It's better than useless naysaying and spreading FUD without the info to back it up.
I will get back with an answer. Unless you beat me to it.
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I'm s-off so I don't really care what you come up with. But I'm not just BS'ing. It would be great if people had the option to downgrade firmware so hopefully you can prove me wrong (since you're calling BS on the ability to downgrade...the java card gets you s-off, it doesn't downgrade your firmware. You're only hope is mobile tech to prove me wrong).
Anyways, bickering is even more useless than calling BS with nothing to back it up. I really do wish you luck...it would make a lot of people happy.
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Mobile Tech Videos confirmed that they can indeed S-off any, including Kitkat 4.4.2 OTA, VZW HTC One units.
They are charging $75.
No response from the PayPal email address that was used for the transaction with Sonic's S-off procedure. Not yet, anyway.
Mobile Tech Videos has a good reputation and I'm confident they will be true to their word.
Also, there is a new thread unveiling Jcases's root method for 4.4.2 to be unveiled in August.
Certainly not definitive, but I tried numerous times without success to contact Sonic about the java card S-off... I tried PM, text message, tweet, and email with no response. As, I am one of the unlucky ones with the 4.4.2 OTA, I may try the Mobile Tech Videos... anyone ever used them for an HTC Verizon device?
Are there any roms for v810 lte yet. Is it worth rooting and flashing? I know with root I can remove bloatware. Its still running 4.2.2.
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lilmeanz said:
Are there any roms for v810 lte yet. Is it worth rooting and flashing? I know with root I can remove bloatware. Its still running 4.2.2.
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This is a great place to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759270. We are very fortunate to have anything at this point and the ROM will get better if Verizon releases a KitKat update for our VK810's.
Because its Verizon the bootloader locked?
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Because its Verizon the bootloader locked?
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If you read the Verizon LTE thread in the general section, there is an exploit for the boot loader, doesnt matter if its locked
Problem would be the lack of developers. I consider myself a junior developer, don't have that much experience with android kernel/building yet... Other more accomplished devs either are too busy or can't get their hands on this Verizon exclusive device. One way would be having someone willing to send their device to a Dev willing to spend time to fix cm11, or have community contribute enough money for that Dev to buy a device from a Verizon store/ craigslist
I'm still running 4.2.2 I'm trying to root using kingo but the USB debug option isn't highlighted I can't turn it on.
I want to run cm11 I have the lte gpad
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Help how do I install twrp I have root and adb installed on computer
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I'm getting tired of my g5 with no root
. So my question is, since I have the jump on demand and usually keep my phones about 6 months, is s-off really worth it for me?
I root, Xposed, rom and adblock. Nothing special.
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I'm getting tired of my g5 with no root
. So my question is, since I have the jump on demand and usually keep my phones about 6 months, is s-off really worth it for me?
I root, Xposed, rom and adblock. Nothing special.
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you dont need S-Off for any of the things you mentioned...
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you dont need S-Off for any of the things you mentioned...
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Thank you for the reply. I'll probably pick my m10 up today. I'm done screwing with LG g5 no root ☺
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g5-on-t-mobile-bears-unlockable-bootloader-afterall/
G5 has an unlockable bootloader (and thus root is possible if not out already.) In fact, the process is basically the same as the Nexus phones. The G4 and V10 were the same way.
OP, the devs over at the G5 T-Mobile subforum just achieved root+twrp last night. Take a look if you're still holding on to the phone.
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OP, the devs over at the G5 T-Mobile subforum just achieved root+twrp last night. Take a look if you're still holding on to the phone.
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Yeah I still have my g5 and the m10 so I cant decide honestly. I am far from impressed with the m10 battery and camera
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Josh McGrath said:
Yeah I still have my g5 and the m10 so I cant decide honestly. I am far from impressed with the m10 battery and camera
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Lmk your findings. I have the 10 from tmobile and I may switch it with the g5. The dac is fantastic but the battery life and camera aren't the best specially coming from the s7 edge exynos where camera and battery life are above par
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Ya the s7 has the easiest to use camera too. I still haven't made my mind up. The g5 camera is much easier to use. I am no expect, I just point and shoot. The battery on the g5 seems to be okay but you can swap it out unlike the m10.
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Does tmo care if you're S-OFF for RMA replacements?
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Does tmo care if you're S-OFF for RMA replacements?
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No they don't. I would at least flash a stock or stock looking rom but they people who rebuild the phones are usually too dumb to know anyway but I've sent every HTC phone back with soff too
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No they don't. I would at least flash a stock or stock looking rom but they people who rebuild the phones are usually too dumb to know anyway but I've sent every HTC phone back with soff too
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Good to hear I had to RMA mine because something is wrong with the antenna/radio since day 1. I'm going to flash the stock TMO ROM again then relock the BL and maybe write the flag to S-ON
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No they don't. I would at least flash a stock or stock looking rom but they people who rebuild the phones are usually too dumb to know anyway but I've sent every HTC phone back with soff too
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Is it the same to return the device? Flash the stock backup, relock the bt, think I'd be okay? Returning two devices, one is untouched.
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Going back to S-ON is a bit trickier without a RUU. If anything is messed up, you brick the phone. I wouldn't set the secure flag just in case. T-Mobile takes Knox tripped phones and that's permanent so I don't see why they wouldn't take S-OFF which is not.