I need to return my Dinc2 to Verizon for a replacement. I flashed the "return to stock" image from the very helpful post by Condemned Soul http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24854198 so now I am still s-off and the bootloader reads "Revolutionary" and s-off (see attached image). I read in posts that this is not an issue for Verizon and that they will not give me a hard time about a void warranty. I just want to verify this before I send the phone in as I am also cancelling my service with them.
Has anyone had a problem regarding warranty with returning a phone that is s-off to Verizon? Can I return it with S-off as I have read posted? I don't really want to risk bricking it changing to s-on.
Here is the state of the phone now:
Android version- 2.3.4
Software #- 5.10.605.9
Baseband- 20.32W.30.0813U_1.09.01.1111
I have attached a pic of the bootloader
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Thanks.
It don't matter, I sent mine in the same way and they didn't say anything lol.
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What exactly is this, or what do the two terms mean?
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JehC said:
It don't matter, I sent mine in the same way and they didn't say anything lol.
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Thanks. After checking further I could not find anyone who had a problem. I sent it this afternoon. I plan on selling the replacement.
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What exactly is this, or what do the two terms mean?
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What terms are you asking about?
S-on and S-off
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S-on and S-off
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Security on/off. If you plan on doing any flashing this is one of the first things you need to learn about, after you learn how to use the search function
Coming from an optimus s that I learned to flash on, and going into a "root your s3"thread, then to a custom Rom thread, I never saw the terms mentioned. And I read them many times along with other Rom threads.
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This only my 3rd smart phone. I had the HTC Incredible and Inc 2 before. Maybe that LG doesn't use it.
S-ON/OFF is specific to HTC, it's their way of letting you use the HTCDev unlock to flash custom ROMs without unlocking everything, so theoretically it's harder to brick your phone.
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Alright my droid inc2 willbe here in a couple of hours and m coming from a fassy I am reallying confused on the rooting process for this phone and Rome and stuff of that nature if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be great. Like do I ever use Odin? Hemdiell? Cwm? Bootloader? Ill be honest compared to the galaxy s it seems like a totally fifteenth scene and this was the first phone I rooted. Any suggestion is welcome
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Alright my droid inc2 willbe here in a couple of hours and m coming from a fassy I am reallying confused on the rooting process for this phone and Rome and stuff of that nature if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be great. Like do I ever use Odin? Hemdiell? Cwm? Bootloader? Ill be honest compared to the galaxy s it seems like a totally fifteenth scene and this was the first phone I rooted. Any suggestion is welcome
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Do not accept the ota update, whatever you do.
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Do not accept the ota update, whatever you do.
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Negative Nancy is right
Golgotha theskull said:
Alright my droid inc2 willbe here in a couple of hours and m coming from a fassy I am reallying confused on the rooting process for this phone and Rome and stuff of that nature if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be great. Like do I ever use Odin? Hemdiell? Cwm? Bootloader? Ill be honest compared to the galaxy s it seems like a totally fifteenth scene and this was the first phone I rooted. Any suggestion is welcome
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Root from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160511
simply dl, unzip to desktop, install other files on website, plug in phone "with usb debugging" and set to charge. Run Alpharevx and it will do all the work for you. It will also install Clockwork Recovery.
From there I did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160745
and after that simply install the ROM you want in the Dinc2 Android Dev section of this forum. I have used CM7 and MIUI 1.7.8. I was a CM fan but am really enjoying the MIUI interface and themes. You can DL Rom Manager from the market and have it DL and install the latest version of either one of these themes, or you can dl them from this site and install them manually.
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Do not accept the ota update, whatever you do.
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It came with it preinstalled I read that much and when I saw that got a little frustrated
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first thing to do when you're DInc2 arrives is check the software info. If you're still on Froyo, then you're golden, you can use a free software utility made by Alpharev X to S-OFF (bypass the digital signature that prevents unauthorized software installation). If it comes preinstalled with Gingerbread, you're boned; the only way to S-OFF is to use an XTC Clip which will cost you abit of cash. If you find yourself needing to go that route, PM me, I have an unused PAYG XTC Clip with 1 credit.
In came with gingerbread is there not a way to flash the froyo Rom like the fascinate if not I don't think ill root for a while in case I need to take my phone in
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I'm wondering if there is any way to rollback from Android OS 2.3 to 2.2? Anybody ever had to do this on the Incredible 2?
Nope...unless you use a xtc clip, root, and then flash a Rom.
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ericsignals said:
Nope...unless you use a xtc clip, root, and then flash a Rom.
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You would think a signed RUU or ZIP could be flashed via the bootloader. I updated by putting the 2.3 signed zip and flashed it via the bootloader. Weird that you couldn't return it back to a signed 2.2
Here's to hoping Revolutionary will exploit GB on the Incredible 2.
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You would think a signed RUU or ZIP could be flashed via the bootloader. I updated by putting the 2.3 signed zip and flashed it via the bootloader. Weird that you couldn't return it back to a signed 2.2
Here's to hoping Revolutionary will exploit GB on the Incredible 2.
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I was able to do this on my old Hero.
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Avelnan said:
I was able to do this on my old Hero.
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Just as HTC has patched the various root exploits as the newer devices have come out, they have also added version checking to the bootloader to prevent you from flashing an older ROM with a lower version number. It didn't use to be that way, but that's just the way HTC is rolling now.
Let's hope the unlocked bootloader policy with eventually become available for existing devices like the Dinc2 / IncS.
you would think that because the evo and sensation are similar it would be easy to find an s off solution
So how many more of these threads are going to be posted. Seriously?
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So how many more of these threads are going to be posted. Seriously?
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Agreed. Isn't there a sticky saying updating screws you? Just wondering
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Agreed. Isn't there a sticky saying updating screws you? Just wondering
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It's only in English, not in laziness.
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It's not that it was laziness. The phone is not mine and rooting/s-off was not a priority for what this person was going to use the phone for.
The question was already answered bangdrum. So please, take your asinine comments elsewhere.
There's a search function for a reason. So yes it is laziness. There is already at least 5 threads asking this question.
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I agree with bangdrum. My DINC2 came preloaded with GB so i didn't have a choice of upgrading or not and right now I can't afford an XTC clip because I'm moving to another state. Everyday I check a variety of forums to see if she off has been achieved. It's not hard to use the search button or even footprint for that matter. It's NEW posts like this that I see EVERY day that get my hopes up. This goes out to everyone........ Do a little searching and you will find your answer.
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I am S Off by Xtc clip , and if have already done 2.3=>2.2 and reverse , its possible butif you arent S Off using the CLip i cant be certain .
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There's a search function for a reason. So yes it is laziness. There is already at least 5 threads asking this question.
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I guess I just didn't word my search right then.
If you want to call it laziness, that's fine. But you don't have to come in and say "How many threads of these are there going to be"? The question was already answered... just leave it at that.
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There's a search function for a reason. So yes it is laziness. There is already at least 5 threads asking this question.
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Well rather than go digging for an old thread would it be okay to ask here, now?
My INC2 came with Froyo and I upgraded to GB but is it possible to do a factory reset back to Froyo? Or am I stuck with GB?
sevenzig said:
Well rather than go digging for an old thread would it be okay to ask here, now?
My INC2 came with Froyo and I upgraded to GB but is it possible to do a factory reset back to Froyo? Or am I stuck with GB?
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Sevenzig, just ignore that troll.
If you have updated to GB, currently there isn't a way to obtain temp root in the Revolutionary s-off process.
As another member stated, HTC placed checks to not allow you to downgrade (example: 2.3 back to 2.2).
Hopefully here soon temp root can be obtained on the DInc2 with GB. There is temp root for the Evo 3D and Sensation and they came preloaded with 2.3.3. So hopefully Revolutionary has something up there sleeve soon.
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Sevenzig, just ignore that troll.
If you have updated to GB, currently there isn't a way to obtain temp root in the Revolutionary s-off process.
As another member stated, HTC placed checks to not allow you to downgrade (example: 2.3 back to 2.2).
Hopefully here soon temp root can be obtained on the DInc2 with GB. There is temp root for the Evo 3D and Sensation and they came preloaded with 2.3.3. So hopefully Revolutionary has something up there sleeve soon.
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Damn. I wish this was like modding 360's before the Lite-On drives needed to be speared to flash them.
There is a rumoured new update coming out. Of you are rooted or want root please hold off as you might lose your root ability. Just a warning of friendly advice.
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Edit: Dang its late. Sorry I can't spell. Glad that's not what the army paid me for. Lol
Yeah. I just got the phone today for my wife and it updated while it was charging before I could root it...which sucks since rooting it played a HUGE role in the decision to get this phone.
I'm guessing I could really break something if I just tried the unrevoked/alpharev/revolutionary approach regardless of the fact that I now have hboot 0.98 huh?
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Yeah. I just got the phone today for my wife and it updated while it was charging before I could root it...which sucks since rooting it played a HUGE role in the decision to get this phone.
I'm guessing I could really break something if I just tried the unrevoked/alpharev/revolutionary approach regardless of the fact that I now have hboot 0.98 huh?
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I don't recommend it lol. Esp if its a different hboot
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Can you fix the "knew" in the title to "new." It really hurts my brain.
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I don't recommend it lol. Esp if its a different hboot
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****, I was afraid of that. Now I wonder if I should try to return it and try again...damnit.
Is the update going to try and force itself or will it does it have to be a manual update?
Also, if you are running a custom rom will this still effect people, or just people running stock root?
Unless things are different from my Original Droid then custom roms don't need to worry about it since most of them have OTA updates turned off.
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Can you fix the "knew" in the title to "new." It really hurts my brain.
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Sorry..was doing it by phone so it took a while. Thank you for your thoughtful post though.
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Is the update going to try and force itself or will it does it have to be a manual update?
Also, if you are running a custom rom will this still effect people, or just people running stock root?
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If it is a stock based Rom without OTA removed...then yes it prob will...and you will lose root...you can remove the update service yourself with a root explorer app
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You will want to switch to a custom for sure. Was about to go to sleep for the night. I am still running my own stock debloat. I caught the ota pop up with the countdown clock. Luckily I was able to pull battery and flash bliss real fast.
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You will want to switch to a custom for sure. Was about to go to sleep for the night. I am still running my own stock debloat. I caught the ota pop up with the countdown clock. Luckily I was able to pull battery and flash bliss real fast.
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Yep that's what I thought lol luckily I'm running miui. I hope I got this out on time to save some ppl...what happened to Verizon asking if you wanted to update first...
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I'm new to the Inc2, can I turn S-off somehow and then downgrade to the original hboot? Is that possible? Or is the Revolutionary method the only way to turn S-off?
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I'm new to the Inc2, can I turn S-off somehow and then downgrade to the original hboot? Is that possible? Or is the Revolutionary method the only way to turn S-off?
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Unless you have an overpriced xtc clip..you're screwed for now.
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Can you fix the "knew" in the title to "new." It really hurts my brain.
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Glad two of your 7 posts have been to correct me btw. Way to add to the community
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If you take the ota to 2.3.4 kiss rooting goodbye.
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For some reason the curious side of me wants to down load. Can't be that big oh a change. Right???
How long for the exploit on 2.3.4 since we already have 2.3.2 done.
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My crystal ball says it will take 3 months and 9 days to find the next exploit, and 4 months 15 days for the next patch that kills it.
It seems that one of the biggest benefits of custom roms are freedom of forced updates. I guess this is the answer to all the people concerned about getting s-on for the event of a return.
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Wow, this thing pushes through without user consent? Holy crap am I glad I'm running CM7.
Just a thought - would users who have received the update against their will have the option of flashing the previously released gingerbread RUU? I'm guessing that even if they could, they'd still be stuck with the updated hboot and therefore unable to get s-off. I'm not really sure how all that works though. Anybody smarter than me have any thoughts?
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The new OTA is pushed to your phone but it offers the option to accept, postpone or reject.
I am rooted (stock rom) and made the error of accepting. After the update my phone would not boot completely (erred with white triangle, yellow exclamation point, blue android). You can follow Conduitz's fix found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233267
NOOB Question
If I want the update and could wait for Root (have root now), how does one go about getting S-ON again? I used the alpharev method.
thanks in advance.
I have searched through this forum and the development forum, and I can't find any threads on how to undo a revolutionary root (2.3.3). My screen is unresponsive in certain sections and I need to send the phone in for a warranty. If someone could link me to a thread with a solution, that would be great.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270265
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I don't think that method works for people who used Revolutionary...
It does work
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I don't think that method works for people who used Revolutionary...
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hboot hasn't changed from froyo to gingerbread. so yeah, it totally works. I did it the other day for ****s and gigs.
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yes i confirm.video along with jcases tut from rootzwiki works well. takes back to froyo then verizon updates to gb.
I was just wondering if there was a working root for the Verizon version yet?
XperianceIT said:
I was just wondering if there was a working root for the Verizon version yet?
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been out since the phone was released..
no root, but one better.. S-OFF.. perm root
You need to mail it out to jcase or beaups however.
$25 for the service + you pay to and from.
well worth it.
they are great and it's very easy to use:
http://theroot.ninja/verizon10.html
I have always been more of the do it myself kinda person, that's 90% of the fun
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XperianceIT said:
I have always been more of the do it myself kinda person, that's 90% of the fun
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We all would prefer to do it ourselves.
The VZW M9 took a year for App support.
So keep that in mind.
Luckily they are even offering this service or we'd be SOL.
If you create an exploit, please do share.
Now if only there was support for my Moto Z I would be golden!
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So if I get this verizon htc 10 and send it out too to them it says on their site they will s-off/unlock/root and flash twrp. Does the "unlock" mean they will unlock the boot loader? If so can I flash other roms besides the ones in just the verizon htc10 forum. There is only one stock deodexed/tweaked Rom so far, well as of last night when I looked and a custom stock kernel. I'm talking about roms like viper, or , vipre not sure of the correct spelling. Will they work on the verizon device?
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*nevermind.