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[Q] Xperia Ion - Abnormal Battery Consumption

hi guys
i just got new Xperia Ion 3 days ago .... to be honest moving from Sony Erricsson C901 to Xperia Ion is amazing
the Mobile is VERY STOCK .... no additional programs or anything ... NIL
however ... it's Heating up
and the battery lasts 6-9 hours with mixed use (wifi 2-3 hours + 15 min voice call+ 30% screen brightness + screen on time = about 2-3 hours as well )
tried with Brevia Engine On and Off
and tried with Sleep timeout 15 sec and 30 sec
people told me Smart phones consume battery massively .... but charging phone 2-3 times a day ... makes it undependable and more or less like home land line ...specially when i'm used to charge my old mobile after using 3G , Music , bluetooth tethering and Camera massively every 2 days at least
so please guys help me ...
i tried to reset the phone and see if it fix the problem , however nothing yet
should i send it back to the dealer , or is this normal or xperia ion
here are some screenshots attached
thanks

Screen time 2-3 hours, then you are experiencing a normal battery life.
With heavy use [considering screen on time at least 2 hours +/-) no one here gets more than 8-10 hours I believe.

Bro. I also face this problem. Hardly I can use my ion for 2-3 hours maximum. So I tried many ways to fix it. The best way I found was flashing CM10 ROM. I can use 8-10 hours in CM10. I think you can solve it by flashing CM10. Just an idea. Many people wants to keep there warranty. If you are one of them I don't recommend it. Sorry for my bad English.

My Ion had terrible battery life when it was new. It gets much better after about 2 weeks. It takes a while for the phone to learn the battery's charge cycle.
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jfalgout2003 said:
My Ion had terrible battery life when it was new. It gets much better after about 2 weeks. It takes a while for the phone to learn the battery's charge cycle.
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I don't know battery can learn the battery's charge cycle
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2 hours .... this is WAY toooo low for a mobile with 1900 mAh battery !!!!
i installed a battery saver application ... i got extra 15 min
but seriously !!!
this is crappy ... and i'll send it back today

what did u do in these 2 hours?

whatsapp and facebook messenger on wifi .... nothing more

There is an existing battery discussion thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992205
This was my worst using .68i stock
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread

That's what you are not sure
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From the picture...Screen display consumes too much, then its not the phone defects...Its yourself...
Plus, the latest firmware from sony 6.1.E.3.7 have bad battery management...Flash back to 6.1.E.2.68 and you'll see damn nice battery consmption...
But then again need to get root access...My ion normally minimum around 8 Hrs for the batt to go 0%

what can i do more !!
Screen brightness is around 20% ... and the ugly thing in this phone i donno why SONY wanted to save 2-3 dollars and don't put a light sensor on it !! -_- *DUH* Capitalism !
anyway ... i'm trying couple of applications ...one of them is "2x battery" is giving me decent result till now (4-5 hours) ...you should try it
and is there any updates soon to jelly beans ? maybe they fix the power management problem ?
and how can i flash back ? suggest some threads ?
thanks

There is an ALS (ambient light sensor) on the phone. Also it is always on. Just hold phone under a light and then cover the top of phone above screen and you will see changes.
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread

if it does exist .... SONY should know it's USELESS very honestly -_-
3G-CDM services shut down ...gave me more battery.... let's see , how far i can push this little guy

Sv: [Q] Xperia Ion - Abnormal Battery Consumption
3 hours of screen time is okay... I thought this was about standby consumption
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honestly this mobile is rubbish to the ground and this is the second time with sony mobile
the phone status deteriorated so fast that now i only have barely 2 hours screen time (20% brightness which is barely watchable) , and nothing is running in the back except avast anti virus , and battery manger
the phone gets SO HOT reaching sometime to 58 c and usually 45-48 c !!!
the normal slow charger (Laptop-USB / car-charger) is extremely slow to the level that after 7 hours of charging you get only around 60% charged , and if you are using the phone while charging the battery meter goes DOWN while charging and the phone gets very hot !!!
i'll return the phone after a month of use , but my only regret is that i listened to people here who don't even have the mobile or bother to read the details about the problem -_-

There is something wrong with ur phone. Mine doesnt get hot..
I´m using it in my car, too. I charge it and use it to navigate me around, and there is no battary drain.

Does the phone overheat? My xperia s did overheat couple of times and wasn't charging even though it was.connected.
I rebooted and it solved. I had to let the phone to be cooled down before running it again.
U could try rebooting. Try hard reset if noting works.

Dr.GM said:
honestly this mobile is rubbish to the ground and this is the second time with sony mobile
the phone status deteriorated so fast that now i only have barely 2 hours screen time (20% brightness which is barely watchable) , and nothing is running in the back except avast anti virus , and battery manger
the phone gets SO HOT reaching sometime to 58 c and usually 45-48 c !!!
the normal slow charger (Laptop-USB / car-charger) is extremely slow to the level that after 7 hours of charging you get only around 60% charged , and if you are using the phone while charging the battery meter goes DOWN while charging and the phone gets very hot !!!
i'll return the phone after a month of use , but my only regret is that i listened to people here who don't even have the mobile or bother to read the details about the problem -_-
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Car-charge and laptop-usb charge WILL charge your phone,but it will charge SLOW AS HELL...you got it?
If you want fast charge,go find a plug and charge your phone

w3nZ said:
There is something wrong with ur phone. Mine doesnt get hot..
I´m using it in my car, too. I charge it and use it to navigate me around, and there is no battary drain.
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bluechelsea said:
Does the phone overheat? My xperia s did overheat couple of times and wasn't charging even though it was.connected.
I rebooted and it solved. I had to let the phone to be cooled down before running it again.
U could try rebooting. Try hard reset if noting works.
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i tried hardrestting and rebooting many many times , actually sometime it reboots on its own
UchihaDareNial said:
Car-charge and laptop-usb charge WILL charge your phone,but it will charge SLOW AS HELL...you got it?
If you want fast charge,go find a plug and charge your phone
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how come there is difference between the wall usb charger and usb charger ? i mean practically the CABLE itself will not transfer more than 5 volts / 0.5 Amps ??
and beside this ,how come the charger can NOT cope with the battery consumption of the phone itself on GPS or 3G service ?!!!
are you serious !

Fast charging tips and tricks

Here are some fast charging tips and tricks that actually work :
1- Turn on your airplane mode.
2- If you are waiting for any important calls or messages then ignore step one and simply turn off any unused feature like wifi and bluetooth.
3-Atleast once in a month charge your mobile from 20% to 100% this enchances battery life.
4- Atleast once in a week restart your mobile or switchoff the phone for 5 mins remove battery and reinstall and reboot.
5-The most effective is that buy a charger of a mobile like note 3 coz it charges faster than normal grand 2 charger(use at your own risk)
6- If you feel your mobile is getting hotter while charging turn off power saving mode if issue still remains turn off the phone.

Why use another charger? Using another charger than that specially designed for the phone may apply different voltage/current intensity to the battery, and thus affecting its efficiency...
You shouldn't be using another battery, every phone has its own battery charger, it's not a battery cell!!

I'm using a note 3 charger for my grand 2 for about 7 months and well it haven't affected my battery or phone and I bought it from a Samsung store and that person said it won't affect the battery but only charge it fast

"charge it fast" means going abnormal... Nothing's called charge fast and drain the same, if you charge your battery faster than it's intended to be, it'll cause trouble, most probably draining fast or the reactants of the battery wearing out fast, and 7 months are nothing lol!

citBabY said:
"charge it fast" means going abnormal... Nothing's called charge fast and drain the same, if you charge your battery faster than it's intended to be, it'll cause trouble, most probably draining fast or the reactants of the battery wearing out fast, and 7 months are nothing lol!
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haha what do you expect from a battery to run like 2 years or so haha well if you ask me i have'nt felt any abnormal drain in battery life

gracefang said:
haha what do you expect from a battery to run like 2 years or so
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More than the square of two years... Anyways if you're that sure of results, at least write "do this at your own will...!

citBabY said:
More than the square of two years... Anyways if you're that sure of results, at least write "do this at your own will...!
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haha sure

Ill try ur tips sir, seems helpful. Ill update this post if it worked.

Im using note 3 charger in almost a year too.. but i feel that charging with the same speed as original charger, and yes my phone still normal till now

One plus 3 night charge

Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )

athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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If you don't need a fully charged phone in the morning I would recommend not to do so. Try to keep the phone between 30 and 80% and only charge it to full like 2 times a month. What I read that's the best thing for all devices.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-charge-phones-battery-3619623/

athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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With the OnePlus 3 you won't need to charge over night as it'll be charged to 62℅ for 30mins to be precise , I used to charge over night all my. Previous phone but with the OnePlus 3 I just charge it for 25mins or something it'll be charged to 90+% as the previous day's charge would still be about 30 to 40%..
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athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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I'm not a battery guru by any means but from my personal experience with cell phones and laptops, it makes very little difference. My old phone was a Galaxy S3 (albeit no quick charge or dash charge), but was charged overnight every night for 5 years. Still on the original battery and lasts a full day with my usage (email sync, facebook, instagram, web browsing, some gaming but not a lot). Off topic, laptop was basically the same deal; actually, was used exclusively plugged in the wall for 3+ years with the battery attached, and when I took it off the charger, still got me through the 3 hours of usage (doesn't seem like a lot but the same hours of usage as if it was brand new).

i dont even charge my phone overnight anymore - just in the car w/ the Dash Car Charger for 15 minutes a day twice a day on weekdays and on weekends with the wall charger ocassionally.
i probably lose 6%-10% overnight, but it's not been an issue, idle drain and SoT are great
in terms of ideal battery health for the long term, you'd probably want to keep it between 10%-90% but you can research this yourself.

2x4 said:
i dont even charge my phone overnight anymore - just in the car w/ the Dash Car Charger for 15 minutes a day twice a day on weekdays and on weekends with the wall charger ocassionally.
i probably lose 6%-10% overnight, but it's not been an issue, idle drain and SoT are great
in terms of ideal battery health for the long term, you'd probably want to keep it between 10%-90% but you can research this yourself.
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ty for your and everyone advice! , on OP store in italy we miss the dash car charge so i can just stick with the wall one. btw one last question, i have a powerbank also 10k mah ( the one on the oneplus store ) if i need recharge outside the phone with it should be ok like was with previous devices right?

athais said:
ty for your and everyone advice! , on OP store in italy we miss the dash car charge so i can just stick with the wall one. btw one last question, i have a powerbank also 10k mah ( the one on the oneplus store ) if i need recharge outside the phone with it should be ok like was with previous devices right?
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Sure but it doesn't charge as quick as the dash charger (wall/car).

Hw4ng3r said:
I'm not a battery guru by any means but from my personal experience with cell phones and laptops, it makes very little difference. My old phone was a Galaxy S3 (albeit no quick charge or dash charge), but was charged overnight every night for 5 years. Still on the original battery and lasts a full day with my usage (email sync, facebook, instagram, web browsing, some gaming but not a lot). Off topic, laptop was basically the same deal; actually, was used exclusively plugged in the wall for 3+ years with the battery attached, and when I took it off the charger, still got me through the 3 hours of usage (doesn't seem like a lot but the same hours of usage as if it was brand new).
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all my laptop i mean all as soon as i take off charger it will die in 10-30 mins thats because it was pluged into the wall brick for few years.
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jason4962 said:
all my laptop i mean all as soon as i take off charger it will die in 10-30 mins thats because it was pluged into the wall brick for few years.
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hahahah Same with me, Definitely cant leave a laptop in for months at a time

savvymatthew said:
hahahah Same with me, Definitely cant leave a laptop in for months at a time
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Guess they don't make them like they used to? I'm talking about a laptop that is now 8 years old.

Hw4ng3r said:
Guess they don't make them like they used to? I'm talking about a laptop that is now 8 years old.
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They dont make anything like they used to

savvymatthew said:
They dont make anything like they used to
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Actually for batteries – especially Lithium-Ion ones – this is a good thing.
With new batteries you can make a full cycle every day for 3 years and still have like 70% capacity at the end, as long as you don't go beneth 10% charge regularly.
With moderate usage and and keeping the battery in the 30 - 70% range, you can easily get 5+ years out of your battery.
This works pretty good for me with the OP3. It is just like 15 - 20 minutes of charging every day.

neominik said:
Actually for batteries – especially Lithium-Ion ones – this is a good thing.
With new batteries you can make a full cycle every day for 3 years and still have like 70% capacity at the end, as long as you don't go beneth 10% charge regularly.
With moderate usage and and keeping the battery in the 30 - 70% range, you can easily get 5+ years out of your battery.
This works pretty good for me with the OP3. It is just like 15 - 20 minutes of charging every day.
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I think OP3 was a good choice for me as well. With my usage patterns, I'm only down to about 50% remaining after 14 hours of use.

Sorry to steal the thread but if charging overnight, is it better for the battery to use the dash charger or a regular slower charger?
I would have thought the quick charge can't be particularly good for the battery?

Battery Percentage Lies?

so I bit the bullet and purchased a new batt at the repeated recommendation of this board. I will find out more if that really was the issue over the next few days of use.
however... 1 issue still remains. it appears that the battery % lies while charging with the phone on... i can't honestly say this was an issue with lollipop as perhaps i just never noticed it... but i normally charge my phone in the AM (not overnight) so that once it's fully charged i can pull it off the charger. what i have noticed is (am on MM now) is that i get the popup that says batt is fully charged (lightning bolt not on the batt indicator) BUT.... if i power the phone down it shows the batt is only at 94-96%... so i leave it be and it takes a good 45-60 mins of further charging to achieve 100%...
what is that??? it seems like a complete software issue to me...
my thoughts are... perhaps it's only specific to samsung and may be related to the note 7 problems and maybe samsung made it to where the software prevents over charging? idk... anyone else notice this?
***note*** i do NOT use fast charging.

DigiManTX said:
so I bit the bullet and purchased a new batt at the repeated recommendation of this board. I will find out more if that really was the issue over the next few days of use.
however... 1 issue still remains. it appears that the battery % lies while charging with the phone on... i can't honestly say this was an issue with lollipop as perhaps i just never noticed it... but i normally charge my phone in the AM (not overnight) so that once it's fully charged i can pull it off the charger. what i have noticed is (am on MM now) is that i get the popup that says batt is fully charged (lightning bolt not on the batt indicator) BUT.... if i power the phone down it shows the batt is only at 94-96%... so i leave it be and it takes a good 45-60 mins of further charging to achieve 100%...
what is that??? it seems like a complete software issue to me...
my thoughts are... perhaps it's only specific to samsung and may be related to the note 7 problems and maybe samsung made it to where the software prevents over charging? idk... anyone else notice this?
***note*** i do NOT use fast charging.
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Sounds like your battery is draining pretty fast.. how long does it last at full charge?
I run mine permanently in Power Save mode and I can push a good 10 hour + on it with normal usage. Also why would you not use Fast Charge? Thats the best part about having this phone..

DigiManTX said:
so I bit the bullet and purchased a new batt at the repeated recommendation of this board. I will find out more if that really was the issue over the next few days of use.
however... 1 issue still remains. it appears that the battery % lies while charging with the phone on... i can't honestly say this was an issue with lollipop as perhaps i just never noticed it... but i normally charge my phone in the AM (not overnight) so that once it's fully charged i can pull it off the charger. what i have noticed is (am on MM now) is that i get the popup that says batt is fully charged (lightning bolt not on the batt indicator) BUT.... if i power the phone down it shows the batt is only at 94-96%... so i leave it be and it takes a good 45-60 mins of further charging to achieve 100%...
what is that??? it seems like a complete software issue to me...
my thoughts are... perhaps it's only specific to samsung and may be related to the note 7 problems and maybe samsung made it to where the software prevents over charging? idk... anyone else notice this?
***note*** i do NOT use fast charging.
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What battery did you purtchese, what brand ?
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norbarb said:
What battery did you purtchese, what brand ?
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a PowerBear... battery type makes no difference here. it was happening with my factory batt, this batt, and have a friend with a note 4 and tested their batt as well...

DigiManTX said:
a PowerBear... battery type makes no difference here. it was happening with my factory batt, this batt, and have a friend with a note 4 and tested their batt as well...
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Did you tryied battery calibration from play store?
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Should i use fast charger?

Should i use fast charger ? As it charge saying quick charging but around certain % the charging get slow so the end result is same but if i use any custom rom it should charge fastly i am worried about the charging port as it does not come with quick charger

abhiabhi1615 said:
Should i use fast charger ? As it charge saying quick charging but around certain % the charging get slow so the end result is same but if i use any custom rom it should charge fastly i am worried about the charging port as it does not come with quick charger
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Anything should help

I only use fastchargers. No problem so far.

Bib_x said:
I only use fastchargers. No problem so far.
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Are you on stock ROM?

Yes you should

abhiabhi1615 said:
Are you on stock ROM?
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I´m on stock MIUI global. I think this is 9.5.6 or something around this (Oreo 8.1).
I only unlocked bootloader and rooted my device with magisk. But this doesn´t matter.

Bib_x said:
I´m on stock MIUI global. I think this is 9.5.6 or something around this (Oreo 8.1).
I only unlocked bootloader and rooted my device with magisk. But this doesn´t matter.
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It matters at slow down the charging speed at certain % so end result is same as stock charger it charger quickly till about 70% then it slow down compare the charging speed with stock charger 0 To 100 its the same

Bib_x said:
I´m on stock MIUI global. I think this is 9.5.6 or something around this (Oreo 8.1).
I only unlocked bootloader and rooted my device with magisk. But this doesn´t matter.
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Does megisk break the ota??

I wanted to say, that rooting the device doenst´t matter...
I have fast chargers everywhere, at home, in my< work, in the car... So i use them. No need to change them...
With redmi note 5 (pro) i don´t have to charge my phone every day, so it is no problem for me, how long the charging-time would be. With my old phone, i had to charge the phone every day, sometimes 2 times a day (to get enough power for the night, to be able to use the clock in the morning for waking me up...)
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And i don´t know if this breaks the ota. I think yes. But who cares? I have TWRP installed.

Bib_x said:
I wanted to say, that rooting the device doenst´t matter...
I have fast chargers everywhere, at home, in my< work, in the car... So i use them. No need to change them...
With redmi note 5 (pro) i don´t have to charge my phone every day, so it is no problem for me, how long the charging-time would be. With my old phone, i had to charge the phone every day, sometimes 2 times a day (to get enough power for the night, to be able to use the clock in the morning for waking me up...)
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And i don´t know if this breaks the ota. I think yes. But who cares? I have TWRP installed.
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Which carger you use can you give any links

I use this one:
https://www.amazon.de/AUKEY-Ladeger...8-2&keywords=usb+ladegerät+aukey+quick+charge

abhiabhi1615 said:
It matters at slow down the charging speed at certain % so end result is same as stock charger it charger quickly till about 70% then it slow down compare the charging speed with stock charger 0 To 100 its the same
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You do understand that the phone designed to slowed down charging process after certain % right ? That's just the way it is.
Fast charger normally will charged quickly up to 60-80% then slowing down.