Buying HTC 10 from T-Mobile - what's the difference? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hello
I am thinking about buying an HTC 10 straight from T-Mobile. My question is - will root/ROMs/recoveries work on the T-Mobile variant as well? Are they completely identical?
Thanks in advance :victory:

To answer your question most root/roms/recoveries should work on the T-Mobile variant. It isn't identical because the tmobile variant has tmobile added software and its made to fun on their network. i have used every single HTC One starting from the M7. this year was the first time i haven't. I instead went and got the unlocked model and I'm using it on T-mobile of course. My main reason of always rooting and s-offing my device was to be able to convert it to a developer or unlocked edition. This time with the unlocked 10 i haven't gotten the need to do any of that. I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet although I have the option in the settings ticked that I could in case i would need to.

daniel2744 said:
To answer your question most root/roms/recoveries should work on the T-Mobile variant. It isn't identical because the tmobile variant has tmobile added software and its made to fun on their network. i have used every single HTC One starting from the M7. this year was the first time i haven't. I instead went and got the unlocked model and I'm using it on T-mobile of course. My main reason of always rooting and s-offing my device was to be able to convert it to a developer or unlocked edition. This time with the unlocked 10 i haven't gotten the need to do any of that. I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet although I have the option in the settings ticked that I could in case i would need to.
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What's the difference between S-Off and a Bootloader Unlock? Is it like Samsung Knox - where they only find out you've modified the device once you send it in - or does HTC get notified as soon as you S-off/unlock it? Thanks for the answer.

Lightn1ng said:
What's the difference between S-Off and a Bootloader Unlock? Is it like Samsung Knox - where they only find out you've modified the device once you send it in - or does HTC get notified as soon as you S-off/unlock it? Thanks for the answer.
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Bootloader unlock is what allows you to root, flash roms and etc. This is needed for any type of modifications. S-Off is not needed for this. What this does is allow you to further modify your device. For example, it let's you flash different firmware or different roms that normally your phone wouldn't work. So in my case the last few years I would take my T-Mobile M8 and M9 and use s-off and then flash them with official developer stock software and converted them into developer edition. the app to S-OFF is $25 but it's the best money you will spend
There should be a thread that explains this further if you need any help.

daniel2744 said:
Bootloader unlock is what allows you to root, flash roms and etc. This is needed for any type of modifications. S-Off is not needed for this. What this does is allow you to further modify your device. For example, it let's you flash different firmware or different roms that normally your phone wouldn't work. So in my case the last few years I would take my T-Mobile M8 and M9 and use s-off and then flash them with official developer stock software and converted them into developer edition. the app to S-OFF is $25 but it's the best money you will spend
There should be a thread that explains this further if you need any help.
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Wow, that's a lot of info. Now all I need to do is decide between this and the G5. Thanks!

Lightn1ng said:
Wow, that's a lot of info. Now all I need to do is decide between this and the G5. Thanks!
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your welcome. I know it was alot. lol Good luck on your decision.

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Unlocking T-Mobile M9 phone?

I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
madskills843 said:
I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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HTC updates the phones sold through HTC. Any phone with carrier branding has HTC submitting their software to the carrier, and then it's released after carrier approval. It makes no difference if the phone is locked, unlocked, used on a different network, etc.
The only way you can go about getting updates directly from HTC in the past is through S-Off and a CID change, effectively changing your device ID, but A: I'm not sure if this is still the case and B: If you're asking the question that you asked, this is going to be a bit too complicated for me to explain at the moment. So the simple answer is No.
madskills843 said:
I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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If you unlock the phone you will have to manually update the phone. If you stay stock you will get updates from T-Mobile, although they will lag the official (and XDA unofficial) releases by a substantial time.
Most folks unlock because they want to flash a custom ROM anyway, and will get updates on that ROM, rather than HTC or T-Mobile.
stevedebi said:
If you unlock the phone you will have to manually update the phone. If you stay stock you will get updates from T-Mobile, although they will lag the official (and XDA unofficial) releases by a substantial time.
Most folks unlock because they want to flash a custom ROM anyway, and will get updates on that ROM, rather than HTC or T-Mobile.
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hmmmmm actually depends on which UNLOCK. If he meant unlocking it to make it carrier free but leaving everything stock then it'll update automatically. If he unlocks the bootloader but still remains stock without changing anything then it'll be auto still. I believe the only time you need to manually update is when you alter the recovery partition of the phone (installing custom recovery CWM/TWRP/etc) which means you'll probably run a custom rom, which also prevents automatic updates.
Teo032 said:
hmmmmm actually depends on which UNLOCK. If he meant unlocking it to make it carrier free but leaving everything stock then it'll update automatically. If he unlocks the bootloader but still remains stock without changing anything then it'll be auto still. I believe the only time you need to manually update is when you alter the recovery partition of the phone (installing custom recovery CWM/TWRP/etc) which means you'll probably run a custom rom, which also prevents automatic updates.
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I'm assuming he meant unlock the bootloader, not the carrier. But I personally would not go to the trouble of unlocking the bootloader unless I was going to go custom ROM.
stevedebi said:
I'm assuming he meant unlock the bootloader, not the carrier. But I personally would not go to the trouble of unlocking the bootloader unless I was going to go custom ROM.
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yeah I got that, but he said unlock code and from T-mobile so I deduced it to carrier unlocking lol.
Well I actually already unlocked the boot loader and using custom ROMs so not that be of a deal more so for my understanding. So if everything was stock and just got an unlock code from T-Mobile to unlock the device and say used the phone on AT&T or Verizon where would the updates come from ? The carrier you are on at the time or HTC?
By the way that's for the help and responses guys!
madskills843 said:
Well I actually already unlocked the boot loader and using custom ROMs so not that be of a deal more so for my understanding. So if everything was stock and just got an unlock code from T-Mobile to unlock the device and say used the phone on AT&T or Verizon where would the updates come from ? The carrier you are on at the time or HTC?
By the way that's for the help and responses guys!
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You are not going to get updates for a T-Mobile phone while on an AT&T network, even if you stayed stock. I don't think the download would work, and even if it did the ROM would not work with your variant. I think they will detect that your phone is not AT&T and not even offer the update.
It sounds like you have installed a custom ROM. In that case you won't get OTA at all, from anywhere; you simply update the ROM when the developer releases a new version.
stevedebi said:
You are not going to get updates for a T-Mobile phone while on an AT&T network, even if you stayed stock. I don't think the download would work, and even if it did the ROM would not work with your variant. I think they will detect that your phone is not AT&T and not even offer the update.
It sounds like you have installed a custom ROM. In that case you won't get OTA at all, from anywhere; you simply update the ROM when the developer releases a new version.
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Yea I got that part was more just to understand how that process works thanks for the help
LOck again?
madskills843 said:
Yea I got that part was more just to understand how that process works thanks for the help
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sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
chamosolano said:
sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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Who did you buy your unlock code from?and how much did it cost. Thanks
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18 dolar but your need change original software
You can get an unlock code from T-Mobile if you meet their requirements
Who did you buy your unlock code from?Do you have a link? Thanks
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Free mobile app
chamosolano said:
sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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SO did you have to root your m9 before you could enter your unlock code?please explain how you did it.I have the unlock code for my m9.I just can't get it to come up on the key pad to say enter unlock code.I put a Att sim card in my device.please explain what I need to do. Thanks
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chamosolano said:
sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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Yes did the same and still unlocked after restoring my stock rooted T-Mobile nandroid

Few questions regarding G4

Hi guys i have few questions regarding the lg g4 hope u can help
1. How is the bootloader system and how it works in comparision to htc's s-off and s-on cause with htc's if you got some hardware problems u just go stock and s-on voila valid warranty.
2. How broad is the developer base and interest in lg devices as comapred to htc and samsung devices.
3. How broad is the scope for developer support for dual sim g4 variant as this is the one being launched in India (kind of hoping that they will launch the international variant.)
4. Now i know that there are various guides for root and flashing and everything but i just gotta ask this is there some software to be used like samsung's odin
for flashing or is it direct like htc just use cmd.
5. One last question im stuck between note 4 and lg g4 and i am not able to make up my mind between these two so hoping that members with can help me this.
I have used samsung and htc but i have no idea regarding lg never used one so please bear with me.
Slim Shady said:
Hi guys i have few questions regarding the lg g4 hope u can help
1. How is the bootloader system and how it works in comparision to htc's s-off and s-on cause with htc's if you got some hardware problems u just go stock and s-on voila valid warranty.
2. How broad is the developer base and interest in lg devices as comapred to htc and samsung devices.
3. How broad is the scope for developer support for dual sim g4 variant as this is the one being launched in India (kind of hoping that they will launch the international variant.)
4. Now i know that there are various guides for root and flashing and everything but i just gotta ask this is there some software to be used like samsung's odin
for flashing or is it direct like htc just use cmd.
5. One last question im stuck between note 4 and lg g4 and i am not able to make up my mind between these two so hoping that members with can help me this.
I have used samsung and htc but i have no idea regarding lg never used one so please bear with me.
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The bootloader is currently locked and cannot be unlocked. It will take a developer to try and find an exploit to be able to unlock it. With the G3, this took around 6 months. If and when it is unlocked there should be good developer support. There is currently no root methods for the G4,it can't be rooted at the moment.
Batfink33 said:
The bootloader is currently locked and cannot be unlocked. It will take a developer to try and find an exploit to be able to unlock it. With the G3, this took around 6 months. If and when it is unlocked there should be good developer support. There is currently no root methods for the G4,it can't be rooted at the moment.
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Tnx for the reply , also how was the support was for g3 both single and dual sim variant in comparision to htc and samsung also could u pls explain what kind of system lg follows like htc has s-off and samsung has knox thing so
can lg systems be completely relocked like htc's (s-off to - s-on complete stock) to use the warranty in case of some hardware defect.
Batfink33 said:
The bootloader is currently locked and cannot be unlocked. It will take a developer to try and find an exploit to be able to unlock it. With the G3, this took around 6 months. If and when it is unlocked there should be good developer support. There is currently no root methods for the G4,it can't be rooted at the moment.
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you can today unlock the bootloader of the H815 G4 ( european version ) on LG's website. check it out.
for now no custom recoveries or rom's are available , it's useless.
i hope that phone will get some good dev
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Is my model unlocked or not, and other stuff

Hi all,
I have a HTC that when I bought it, they SAID it should have been unlocked but I don't know if that means my bootloader is unlocked or something else. how can I tell if my model is unlocked model (model is just HTC 10 and I don't have any provider software installed on it either) ... I mainly ask as Android 7 was released to unlocked HTC 10 last year but I got no OTA notifications that it is ready for me.
Also if this doesn't mean that the bootloader unlocked and I need to go through it at HTCDev, then I believe this will wipe the phone... so I need to backup my stuff before I can unlock the bootloader, so I can root my phone, so I can install my backup stuff (Titanium Backup) any help on this one? i'm used to Samsung so the changes in how things work I'm still getting my head around.
Nobody knows? Is this the correct part of the forums to ask this sort of question? I didn't want to post in the wrong section and this seemed to be the closest fit.
aerospyke said:
Hi all,
I have a HTC that when I bought it, they SAID it should have been unlocked but I don't know if that means my bootloader is unlocked or something else. how can I tell if my model is unlocked model (model is just HTC 10 and I don't have any provider software installed on it either) ... I mainly ask as Android 7 was released to unlocked HTC 10 last year but I got no OTA notifications that it is ready for me.
Also if this doesn't mean that the bootloader unlocked and I need to go through it at HTCDev, then I believe this will wipe the phone... so I need to backup my stuff before I can unlock the bootloader, so I can root my phone, so I can install my backup stuff (Titanium Backup) any help on this one? i'm used to Samsung so the changes in how things work I'm still getting my head around.
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When you buy a phone and if seller says that phone is unlocked it usually means "carrier/sim unlocked". Your phone might be carrier unlocked, but bootloader unlock is different. When you unlock bootloader than phone gets wiped. Google servers usually backup your apps and some data, but videos/music/photos I backup on my PC by connecting phone to a computer and copying files to a folder.
If you bought directly from HTC w/o purchasing through a carrier (such as Sprint, AT&T, Verizon), then you have an "Unlocked Model". That's completely different from having an unlocked bootloader, which is not necessary to get the Nougat update. If you have an unlocked (carrier-free) HTC 10, then you should be able to get the update. I restored mine to stock, and was able to update to 7.0. It's possible that it's not available in your country yet, or that there's some funny software glitches occurring.
Hope that helps!
Thanks all for the confirmation. So from that I do know from when I got my phone, which was only 4 weeks ago, and no modifications to it whatsoever
a) my phone is carrier unlocked
b) I need to unlock my bootloader but to do that I need to backup my app data, Google didn't backupt he app data when I migrated phones, so all my apps were empty and brand new when it all restored to my new phone... oh well.
c) whilst i SHOULD be eligible for nougat as I have a carrier unlocked HTC 10, perhaps it isn't available in Australia for HTC yet. My colleague who has a pixel XL is still rubbing it in my face that he has 7.1.1 already
Thanks
aerospyke said:
Thanks all for the confirmation. So from that I do know from when I got my phone, which was only 4 weeks ago, and no modifications to it whatsoever
a) my phone is carrier unlocked
b) I need to unlock my bootloader but to do that I need to backup my app data, Google didn't backupt he app data when I migrated phones, so all my apps were empty and brand new when it all restored to my new phone... oh well.
c) whilst i SHOULD be eligible for nougat as I have a carrier unlocked HTC 10, perhaps it isn't available in Australia for HTC yet. My colleague who has a pixel XL is still rubbing it in my face that he has 7.1.1 already
Thanks
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c) Yeah Nougat is only available for U.S Unlocked (and tmobile as of today) thus far.
Tarima said:
c) Yeah Nougat is only available for U.S Unlocked (and tmobile as of today) thus far.
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Rats..... i'll just keep waiting, or wipe my device unlocking the bootloader so I can flash a custom ROM like Viper or the like. Decisions. Wonder when the rest of the world will get the update
aerospyke said:
Rats..... i'll just keep waiting, or wipe my device unlocking the bootloader so I can flash a custom ROM like Viper or the like. Decisions. Wonder when the rest of the world will get the update
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Australia is usually last to get the update.

SM-N910V Questions

Hello,
First time poster. I just bought a refurbished unlocked Verizon Note 4. It is currently running Android Version: 6.0.1. I am interested in upgrading the OS to Nougat or Oreo (if possible) Do I have to root the phone to do this? I am not really interested in rooting, I just want to update the OS.
If I have to root, whats the easiest method? I read conflicting threads on the forums saying it cant be done with Verizon Note 4's. Some people say it can be done.
Thanks
jordanmc1 said:
Hello,
First time poster. I just bought a refurbished unlocked Verizon Note 4. It is currently running Android Version: 6.0.1. I am interested in upgrading the OS to Nougat or Oreo (if possible) Do I have to root the phone to do this? I am not really interested in rooting, I just want to update the OS.
If I have to root, whats the easiest method? I read conflicting threads on the forums saying it cant be done with Verizon Note 4's. Some people say it can be done.
Thanks
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Lol well you either have root and an unlocked phone or you dont have an unlocked phone. Hopefully you didnt get charged more for the alledged unlock. Unless you meant simlocked in which case , all verizon phones are unlocked and i hope you didnt pay more for it .
mojoswagger1980 said:
Lol well you either have root and an unlocked phone or you dont have an unlocked phone. Hopefully you didnt get charged more for the alledged unlock. Unless you meant simlocked in which case , all verizon phones are unlocked and i hope you didnt pay more for it .
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Sorry, when I said unlocked I meant SIM unlocked. I am from Canada and all our carriers simlock the phones while under contract. Anyways, is there a way to force upgrade the OS on these devices without rooting?
jordanmc1 said:
Sorry, when I said unlocked I meant SIM unlocked. I am from Canada and all our carriers simlock the phones while under contract. Anyways, is there a way to force upgrade the OS on these devices without rooting?
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Not to my knowledge, but the root/bootloader exploit is for bpa1 which you can Odin back to or forward if applicable...couple of post recently with older bootloaders don't remember if you were one or not

Question 2023 T-Mobile vs Unlocked OP 9 Pro

Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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Not Sure about non us but unlocked yes you can
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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Don't send back.... Using the T-Mobile app and chat you can be over complementary and ask for full unlock and should be able to get it that way. Option 2 is to use a modded MSM tool to convert to Global, unlock bootloader, us a modded Glo to TMO MSM TOOL to get back to TMO firmware and update. But recommend to stay away from A13 for now
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TheGhost1951 said:
Don't send back.... Using the T-Mobile app and chat you can be over complementary and ask for full unlock and should be able to get it that way. Option 2 is to use a modded MSM tool to convert to Global, unlock bootloader, us a modded Glo to TMO MSM TOOL to get back to TMO firmware and update. But recommend to stay away from A13 for now
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Was your recommendation to avoid updating based on the trouble that DaveImagery was having with achieving root? If so, I can assure you rooting the T-Mobile android 13 update is no different than rooting the global or eu firmware, aside from having to always temp boot TWRP rather than actually install it. TWRP acts up sometimes but it works. I think he was either having a problem with the driver's, USB port, or cable, or something went wrong when he pulled the boot image via MSM tool.
Masterchief87 said:
Was your recommendation to avoid updating based on the trouble that DaveImagery was having with achieving root? If so, I can assure you rooting the T-Mobile android 13 update is no different than rooting the global or eu firmware, aside from having to always temp boot TWRP rather than actually install it. TWRP acts up sometimes but it works. I think he was either having a problem with the driver's, USB port, or cable, or something went wrong when he pulled the boot image via MSM tool.
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I just want to wait awhile to ensure all the kinks are out be for updating. Any new features etc...
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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If you got the factory unlocked one then sure, it'll work with a t-mobile sim. The question is whether it will be 100% compatible with t-mobile's network or not. I don't know the answer to that question. It's worth noting however that the T-Mobile variant is slower to get updates, and just got Android 13 this month. If I'm not mistaken, the global and EU variants got Android 13 last year. This fall/winter the other variants will probably be getting android 14, while the t-mobile variant waits until next spring.
T-Mobile updates are slower because they are more refined and sometimes include multiple updates in one update. That is why they are slower..
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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What did you decide to do?
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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im on an unlocked (purchased new) OP9 pro and I have no issues. I've always wanted to see if TMO modem works better, but it works great enough that it't more of just a curiosity.
TheGhost1951 said:
What did you decide to do?
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I decided to stay with what I got, esp. as the seller also (belatedly) included the original 65w fast charger. I did a bit of whining. So now I'm trying to get my employer to leverage t-mobile into unlocking the phone, since we've been w/ them a long time and it technically is my employers' phone. (They appreciate my geek interests and are willing.)
If I can get it unlocked, the next questions will be about just how flexible T-Mobile's sim will be with various rooted Oxygen OS's.
I used to root all the time.... my Samsung Note 4 (dang I loved that phone), my OnePlus 2 (rebuilt from 2 broken ones... by me!), and so on. But Samsung's Note 9 wasn't rootable (I didn't have the Exynos version). So I got stuck. This time I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro intentionally in order to play w/ rooting again.
But the whole thing has gotten more interesting. TWRP... does it still work and do the awesome backups / restores of multiple different systems on the same phone? And Magisk.... sheesh... so much I don't know.
shonkin said:
I decided to stay with what I got, esp. as the seller also (belatedly) included the original 65w fast charger. I did a bit of whining. So now I'm trying to get my employer to leverage t-mobile into unlocking the phone, since we've been w/ them a long time and it technically is my employers' phone. (They appreciate my geek interests and are willing.)
If I can get it unlocked, the next questions will be about just how flexible T-Mobile's sim will be with various rooted Oxygen OS's.
I used to root all the time.... my Samsung Note 4 (dang I loved that phone), my OnePlus 2 (rebuilt from 2 broken ones... by me!), and so on. But Samsung's Note 9 wasn't rootable (I didn't have the Exynos version). So I got stuck. This time I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro intentionally in order to play w/ rooting again.
But the whole thing has gotten more interesting. TWRP... does it still work and do the awesome backups / restores of multiple different systems on the same phone? And Magisk.... sheesh... so much I don't know.
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TWRP is a little wonky, Magisk is a yess!
If you have no luck through TMO with unlocking the bootloader, let me know. There is another way to do that.
TheGhost1951 said:
If you have no luck through TMO with unlocking the bootloader, let me know. There is another way to do that.
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How exactly would that work? I've read that using the T-Mobile->EU MSM allows you to unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, but wouldn't using another MSM to go back to T-Mobile firmware re-lock the bootloader? Would the fact that it's already been unlocked previously allow it to be unlocked again without a token, even after flashing back to the T-Mobile firmware? Mine came sim unlocked and didn't have any trouble getting an unlock token so I never tried the workaround and I've just flashed the unlock token every time.
Masterchief87 said:
How exactly would that work? I've read that using the T-Mobile->EU MSM allows you to unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, but wouldn't using another MSM to go back to T-Mobile firmware re-lock the bootloader? Would the fact that it's already been unlocked previously allow it to be unlocked again without a token, even after flashing back to the T-Mobile firmware? Mine came sim unlocked and didn't have any trouble getting an unlock token so I never tried the workaround and I've just flashed the unlock token every time.
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I have a modded TMO to Glo and a modded Glo to TMO.....I have used it before....
So it is in fact possible to skip waiting for a token. You have to use MSM to convert to EU then you're free to do whatever since the bootloader is now unlocked? Am I understanding? I'd like to personally flash Lineage as soon as I'm unlocked, will the above process work for me?
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I have a modded TMO to Glo and a modded Glo to TMO.....I have used it before....
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I believe you. What I'm saying is that according to what I have read, every time you use a MSM tool it locks the bootloader. So you convert to eu, and unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, because this specific firmware is unique in its ability to be unlocked without a token. Then you flash the T-Mobile firmware with another MSM which locks the bootloader all over again, and now you are once again on T-Mobile firmware with a locked bootloader and no unlock token. My questions are:
1) Does the fact that you previously unlocked the bootloader permanently do away with the need for an unlock token, even after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware and re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so then how do you unlock the bootloader the second time after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware? Do you repeat the same procedure you did on the EU firmware, or do you just run the "fastboot oem unlock" command from now on?
Masterchief87 said:
I believe you. What I'm saying is that according to what I have read, every time you use a MSM tool it locks the bootloader. So you convert to eu, and unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, because this specific firmware is unique in its ability to be unlocked without a token. Then you flash the T-Mobile firmware with another MSM which locks the bootloader all over again, and now you are once again on T-Mobile firmware with a locked bootloader and no unlock token. My questions are:
1) Does the fact that you previously unlocked the bootloader permanently do away with the need for an unlock token, even after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware and re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so then how do you unlock the bootloader the second time after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware? Do you repeat the same procedure you did on the EU firmware, or do you just run the "fastboot oem unlock" command from now on?
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The way it is done with the modded MSM Tool to go from Global back to TMO it does not lock the bootloader. Can't explain why, but it doesn't. A pure TMO MSM Tool will relock the bootloader. Been there and done both ways.
In a few days I will do it again just to triple check the procedures and create the necessary modded MSM Tool zip files to share.
Another way to get unlock token is by booting to bootloader and run the command to get unlock code. Copy the long list of numbers along with IMEI and serial number and email OnePlus support with the information stating the TMO unlock token website is not working for you and they will generate a token for you. I had to do that when my first token quit working....
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