I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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HTC updates the phones sold through HTC. Any phone with carrier branding has HTC submitting their software to the carrier, and then it's released after carrier approval. It makes no difference if the phone is locked, unlocked, used on a different network, etc.
The only way you can go about getting updates directly from HTC in the past is through S-Off and a CID change, effectively changing your device ID, but A: I'm not sure if this is still the case and B: If you're asking the question that you asked, this is going to be a bit too complicated for me to explain at the moment. So the simple answer is No.
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I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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If you unlock the phone you will have to manually update the phone. If you stay stock you will get updates from T-Mobile, although they will lag the official (and XDA unofficial) releases by a substantial time.
Most folks unlock because they want to flash a custom ROM anyway, and will get updates on that ROM, rather than HTC or T-Mobile.
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If you unlock the phone you will have to manually update the phone. If you stay stock you will get updates from T-Mobile, although they will lag the official (and XDA unofficial) releases by a substantial time.
Most folks unlock because they want to flash a custom ROM anyway, and will get updates on that ROM, rather than HTC or T-Mobile.
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hmmmmm actually depends on which UNLOCK. If he meant unlocking it to make it carrier free but leaving everything stock then it'll update automatically. If he unlocks the bootloader but still remains stock without changing anything then it'll be auto still. I believe the only time you need to manually update is when you alter the recovery partition of the phone (installing custom recovery CWM/TWRP/etc) which means you'll probably run a custom rom, which also prevents automatic updates.
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hmmmmm actually depends on which UNLOCK. If he meant unlocking it to make it carrier free but leaving everything stock then it'll update automatically. If he unlocks the bootloader but still remains stock without changing anything then it'll be auto still. I believe the only time you need to manually update is when you alter the recovery partition of the phone (installing custom recovery CWM/TWRP/etc) which means you'll probably run a custom rom, which also prevents automatic updates.
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I'm assuming he meant unlock the bootloader, not the carrier. But I personally would not go to the trouble of unlocking the bootloader unless I was going to go custom ROM.
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I'm assuming he meant unlock the bootloader, not the carrier. But I personally would not go to the trouble of unlocking the bootloader unless I was going to go custom ROM.
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yeah I got that, but he said unlock code and from T-mobile so I deduced it to carrier unlocking lol.
Well I actually already unlocked the boot loader and using custom ROMs so not that be of a deal more so for my understanding. So if everything was stock and just got an unlock code from T-Mobile to unlock the device and say used the phone on AT&T or Verizon where would the updates come from ? The carrier you are on at the time or HTC?
By the way that's for the help and responses guys!
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Well I actually already unlocked the boot loader and using custom ROMs so not that be of a deal more so for my understanding. So if everything was stock and just got an unlock code from T-Mobile to unlock the device and say used the phone on AT&T or Verizon where would the updates come from ? The carrier you are on at the time or HTC?
By the way that's for the help and responses guys!
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You are not going to get updates for a T-Mobile phone while on an AT&T network, even if you stayed stock. I don't think the download would work, and even if it did the ROM would not work with your variant. I think they will detect that your phone is not AT&T and not even offer the update.
It sounds like you have installed a custom ROM. In that case you won't get OTA at all, from anywhere; you simply update the ROM when the developer releases a new version.
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You are not going to get updates for a T-Mobile phone while on an AT&T network, even if you stayed stock. I don't think the download would work, and even if it did the ROM would not work with your variant. I think they will detect that your phone is not AT&T and not even offer the update.
It sounds like you have installed a custom ROM. In that case you won't get OTA at all, from anywhere; you simply update the ROM when the developer releases a new version.
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Yea I got that part was more just to understand how that process works thanks for the help
LOck again?
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Yea I got that part was more just to understand how that process works thanks for the help
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sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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Who did you buy your unlock code from?and how much did it cost. Thanks
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18 dolar but your need change original software
You can get an unlock code from T-Mobile if you meet their requirements
Who did you buy your unlock code from?Do you have a link? Thanks
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sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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SO did you have to root your m9 before you could enter your unlock code?please explain how you did it.I have the unlock code for my m9.I just can't get it to come up on the key pad to say enter unlock code.I put a Att sim card in my device.please explain what I need to do. Thanks
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sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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Yes did the same and still unlocked after restoring my stock rooted T-Mobile nandroid
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Is there? Sorry for posting again. I just want to unlock my phone so badly.
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Is there? Sorry for posting again. I just want to unlock my phone so badly.
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I have seen a number of the more experienced forum members answer this by saying that once you are on 4.3 with the official MJB bootloader you will need to use one of the pay services to sim unlock your phone.
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I have seen a number of the more experienced forum members answer this by saying that once you are on 4.3 with the official MJB bootloader you will need to use one of the pay services to sim unlock your phone.
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So there's nothing I can do then? ._.
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So there's nothing I can do then? ._.
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Not without putting out the dollars.
I have read that some XDA members that are using the i747 with AT&T were able to get the unlock code for free directly from AT&T..
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I have read that some XDA members that are using the i747 with AT&T were able to get the unlock code for free directly from AT&T..
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How do they do that? o.o
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How do they do that? o.o
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You can request the unlock code via this URL ...https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/
I haven't had any luck with them though using this request form as each time I've tried it's been with a phone I purchased from the secondary market and then they reply that the details on record don't match mine. Congress recently approved a bill making it legal to unlock your phone and I understand the new bill also includes a provision allowing third-parties who obtain the phone legally to request the unlock code. So perhaps things will be easier for everyone when the new bill becomes law and takes full effect.
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You can request the unlock code via this URL ...https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/
I haven't had any luck with them though using this request form as each time I've tried it's been with a phone I purchased from the secondary market and then they reply that the details on record don't match mine. Congress recently approved a bill making it legal to unlock your phone and I understand the new bill also includes a provision allowing third-parties who obtain the phone legally to request the unlock code. So perhaps things will be easier for everyone when the new bill becomes law and takes full effect.
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Oh, thanks, I'll try this out because I been googling stuff and I think I can get a code from At&t. Well hopefully.
MaknaeAJ said:
Oh, thanks, I'll try this out because I been googling stuff and I think I can get a code from At&t. Well hopefully.
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I hope AT&T is cooperative. I am still able to go back to 4.1.1 on my SGS3 to unlock, but I never unlocked my Captivate - which is still functional. I keep it as a backup. It would be nice to have it unlocked.
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I hope AT&T is cooperative. I am still able to go back to 4.1.1 on my SGS3 to unlock, but I never unlocked my Captivate - which is still functional. I keep it as a backup. It would be nice to have it unlocked.
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How were you able to go back to 4.1.1? Right now im on 4.3 and people are saying not to downgrade or it'll brick your phone. All I wanna do is go back to 4.1.1 to unlock my phone and upgrade to 4.3.
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How were you able to go back to 4.1.1? Right now im on 4.3 and people are saying not to downgrade or it'll brick your phone. All I wanna do is go back to 4.1.1 to unlock my phone and upgrade to 4.3.
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I will be able to go back to 4.1.1 because I am still on 4.1.2. I never allowed my phone to take the 4.3 update.
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I will be able to go back to 4.1.1 because I am still on 4.1.2. I never allowed my phone to take the 4.3 update.
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Oh I see, thanks anyway. Looks like im stuck on 4.3 :|
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I hope AT&T is cooperative. I am still able to go back to 4.1.1 on my SGS3 to unlock, but I never unlocked my Captivate - which is still functional. I keep it as a backup. It would be nice to have it unlocked.
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Check out the captivate forum. You should be able to unlock it for free
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Check out the captivate forum. You should be able to unlock it for free
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Been perusing them for a bit. Not having much luck implementing for the moment. I think that is because I didn't have a sim in the phone. It's not a big issue to me at the moment. As a backup phone I don't actually need to unlock if I go with AT&T or even if I switch it to Straight Talk. Of course, it would need to be unlocked to use other prepaid options. Anyway, I subscribed to the threads I will revisit when necessary.
Hello
I am thinking about buying an HTC 10 straight from T-Mobile. My question is - will root/ROMs/recoveries work on the T-Mobile variant as well? Are they completely identical?
Thanks in advance :victory:
To answer your question most root/roms/recoveries should work on the T-Mobile variant. It isn't identical because the tmobile variant has tmobile added software and its made to fun on their network. i have used every single HTC One starting from the M7. this year was the first time i haven't. I instead went and got the unlocked model and I'm using it on T-mobile of course. My main reason of always rooting and s-offing my device was to be able to convert it to a developer or unlocked edition. This time with the unlocked 10 i haven't gotten the need to do any of that. I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet although I have the option in the settings ticked that I could in case i would need to.
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To answer your question most root/roms/recoveries should work on the T-Mobile variant. It isn't identical because the tmobile variant has tmobile added software and its made to fun on their network. i have used every single HTC One starting from the M7. this year was the first time i haven't. I instead went and got the unlocked model and I'm using it on T-mobile of course. My main reason of always rooting and s-offing my device was to be able to convert it to a developer or unlocked edition. This time with the unlocked 10 i haven't gotten the need to do any of that. I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet although I have the option in the settings ticked that I could in case i would need to.
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What's the difference between S-Off and a Bootloader Unlock? Is it like Samsung Knox - where they only find out you've modified the device once you send it in - or does HTC get notified as soon as you S-off/unlock it? Thanks for the answer.
Lightn1ng said:
What's the difference between S-Off and a Bootloader Unlock? Is it like Samsung Knox - where they only find out you've modified the device once you send it in - or does HTC get notified as soon as you S-off/unlock it? Thanks for the answer.
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Bootloader unlock is what allows you to root, flash roms and etc. This is needed for any type of modifications. S-Off is not needed for this. What this does is allow you to further modify your device. For example, it let's you flash different firmware or different roms that normally your phone wouldn't work. So in my case the last few years I would take my T-Mobile M8 and M9 and use s-off and then flash them with official developer stock software and converted them into developer edition. the app to S-OFF is $25 but it's the best money you will spend
There should be a thread that explains this further if you need any help.
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Bootloader unlock is what allows you to root, flash roms and etc. This is needed for any type of modifications. S-Off is not needed for this. What this does is allow you to further modify your device. For example, it let's you flash different firmware or different roms that normally your phone wouldn't work. So in my case the last few years I would take my T-Mobile M8 and M9 and use s-off and then flash them with official developer stock software and converted them into developer edition. the app to S-OFF is $25 but it's the best money you will spend
There should be a thread that explains this further if you need any help.
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Wow, that's a lot of info. Now all I need to do is decide between this and the G5. Thanks!
Lightn1ng said:
Wow, that's a lot of info. Now all I need to do is decide between this and the G5. Thanks!
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your welcome. I know it was alot. lol Good luck on your decision.
Hi all,
I have a HTC that when I bought it, they SAID it should have been unlocked but I don't know if that means my bootloader is unlocked or something else. how can I tell if my model is unlocked model (model is just HTC 10 and I don't have any provider software installed on it either) ... I mainly ask as Android 7 was released to unlocked HTC 10 last year but I got no OTA notifications that it is ready for me.
Also if this doesn't mean that the bootloader unlocked and I need to go through it at HTCDev, then I believe this will wipe the phone... so I need to backup my stuff before I can unlock the bootloader, so I can root my phone, so I can install my backup stuff (Titanium Backup) any help on this one? i'm used to Samsung so the changes in how things work I'm still getting my head around.
Nobody knows? Is this the correct part of the forums to ask this sort of question? I didn't want to post in the wrong section and this seemed to be the closest fit.
aerospyke said:
Hi all,
I have a HTC that when I bought it, they SAID it should have been unlocked but I don't know if that means my bootloader is unlocked or something else. how can I tell if my model is unlocked model (model is just HTC 10 and I don't have any provider software installed on it either) ... I mainly ask as Android 7 was released to unlocked HTC 10 last year but I got no OTA notifications that it is ready for me.
Also if this doesn't mean that the bootloader unlocked and I need to go through it at HTCDev, then I believe this will wipe the phone... so I need to backup my stuff before I can unlock the bootloader, so I can root my phone, so I can install my backup stuff (Titanium Backup) any help on this one? i'm used to Samsung so the changes in how things work I'm still getting my head around.
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When you buy a phone and if seller says that phone is unlocked it usually means "carrier/sim unlocked". Your phone might be carrier unlocked, but bootloader unlock is different. When you unlock bootloader than phone gets wiped. Google servers usually backup your apps and some data, but videos/music/photos I backup on my PC by connecting phone to a computer and copying files to a folder.
If you bought directly from HTC w/o purchasing through a carrier (such as Sprint, AT&T, Verizon), then you have an "Unlocked Model". That's completely different from having an unlocked bootloader, which is not necessary to get the Nougat update. If you have an unlocked (carrier-free) HTC 10, then you should be able to get the update. I restored mine to stock, and was able to update to 7.0. It's possible that it's not available in your country yet, or that there's some funny software glitches occurring.
Hope that helps!
Thanks all for the confirmation. So from that I do know from when I got my phone, which was only 4 weeks ago, and no modifications to it whatsoever
a) my phone is carrier unlocked
b) I need to unlock my bootloader but to do that I need to backup my app data, Google didn't backupt he app data when I migrated phones, so all my apps were empty and brand new when it all restored to my new phone... oh well.
c) whilst i SHOULD be eligible for nougat as I have a carrier unlocked HTC 10, perhaps it isn't available in Australia for HTC yet. My colleague who has a pixel XL is still rubbing it in my face that he has 7.1.1 already
Thanks
aerospyke said:
Thanks all for the confirmation. So from that I do know from when I got my phone, which was only 4 weeks ago, and no modifications to it whatsoever
a) my phone is carrier unlocked
b) I need to unlock my bootloader but to do that I need to backup my app data, Google didn't backupt he app data when I migrated phones, so all my apps were empty and brand new when it all restored to my new phone... oh well.
c) whilst i SHOULD be eligible for nougat as I have a carrier unlocked HTC 10, perhaps it isn't available in Australia for HTC yet. My colleague who has a pixel XL is still rubbing it in my face that he has 7.1.1 already
Thanks
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c) Yeah Nougat is only available for U.S Unlocked (and tmobile as of today) thus far.
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c) Yeah Nougat is only available for U.S Unlocked (and tmobile as of today) thus far.
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Rats..... i'll just keep waiting, or wipe my device unlocking the bootloader so I can flash a custom ROM like Viper or the like. Decisions. Wonder when the rest of the world will get the update
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Rats..... i'll just keep waiting, or wipe my device unlocking the bootloader so I can flash a custom ROM like Viper or the like. Decisions. Wonder when the rest of the world will get the update
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Australia is usually last to get the update.
Okay so I just got a replacement on my Verizon Google pixel and after everything was setup I noticed that in the developer options it gave me the option to unlock my Bootloader. I know the Verizon models are locked and after 7.1 the exploit was patched. I have all the Verizon bloatware so is this just a bug or is it possible? I turned off all automatic updates just in case so should I go ahead and try?
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Okay so I just got a replacement on my Verizon Google pixel and after everything was setup I noticed that in the developer options it gave me the option to unlock my Bootloader. I know the Verizon models are locked and after 7.1 the exploit was patched. I have all the Verizon bloatware so is this just a bug or is it possible? I turned off all automatic updates just in case so should I go ahead and try?
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If you want to try unlocking your bootloader go for it. But there's not much benefit to unlocking your bootloader unless you plan to root or flash a custom rom or custom kernel or something. Simply unlocking the bootloader but otherwise staying fully stock will not allow your phone to pass safety net so you won't be able to use Android Pay. There have been a few other posts from Verizon customers where they got phones with the option to unlock the bootloader enabled so you probably just got lucky.
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Okay so I just got a replacement on my Verizon Google pixel and after everything was setup I noticed that in the developer options it gave me the option to unlock my Bootloader. I know the Verizon models are locked and after 7.1 the exploit was patched. I have all the Verizon bloatware so is this just a bug or is it possible? I turned off all automatic updates just in case so should I go ahead and try?
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If it was shipped from Carol Stream, Illinois and if you pop in your SIM and the Verizon website calls it a non-VZW phone., then you got a Google Edition. Since OEM unlocking is not grayed out on yours, it's almost for certain a Google Edition. Same happened to me, the bloatware came when the Verizon SIM was inserted.
I agree with the above jhs39 post, though, only do it if you have a reason. I wanted the Pure Nexus ROM and ViPER4Android so I did it.
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If you want to try unlocking your bootloader go for it. But there's not much benefit to unlocking your bootloader unless you plan to root or flash a custom rom or custom kernel or something. Simply unlocking the bootloader but otherwise staying fully stock will not allow your phone to pass safety net so you won't be able to use Android Pay. There have been a few other posts from Verizon customers where they got phones with the option to unlock the bootloader enabled so you probably just got lucky.
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I don't have the need for it unlocked now but is it possible that an update can remove the option as I do want to flash a rom in the future.
3aucla1r3 said:
If it was shipped from Carol Stream, Illinois and if you pop in your SIM and the Verizon website calls it a non-VZW phone., then you got a Google Edition. Since OEM unlocking is not grayed out on yours, it's almost for certain a Google Edition. Same happened to me, the bloatware came when the Verizon SIM was inserted.
I agree with the above jhs39 post, though, only do it if you have a reason. I wanted the Pure Nexus ROM and ViPER4Android so I did it.
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Ah I see. It was shipped from that location and I checked the IMEI on Verizon's website and it says it's not capable for some reason so I'm guessing it's a GE.
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Ah I see. It was shipped from that location and I checked the IMEI on Verizon's website and it says it's not capable for some reason so I'm guessing it's a GE.
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Yeah but it really is capable, just put the SIM in
If you plan on flashing custom in the future then I would unlock now so you don't have to lose all you're data later. Rather wipe while it's new and doesn't have months of data on it.
You never know when you might get screwed over by an update and or want to flash back a version.
I say unlock to give yourself a few more exit strategies should anything go wrong and if you decide to root and rom at some point later you aren't gonna wipe your device.
If you want to pass safety net for android pay you just need to flash a custom kernel.
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I don't have the need for it unlocked now but is it possible that an update can remove the option as I do want to flash a rom in the future.
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That's true. But if you use Android Pay or any other apps that require safety net they will stop working unless you flash a custom kernel. If that doesn't matter to you then you should unlock the bootloader while you can.
Hello am using a Moto g stylus with qprs30 ROM, operating on MetroPCS USA , I need a rom and steps that I can flash to remove the sim network unlock
wiseniggy said:
Hello am using a Moto g stylus with qprs30 ROM, operating on MetroPCS USA , I need a rom and steps that I can flash to remove the sim network unlock
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This may not be possible as most network specific variants are not able to unlock the bl
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This may not be possible as most network specific variants are not able to unlock the bl
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Did you ever find out if it's possible to unlock the bootloader on a Metro byT-mobile phone?
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Did you ever find out if it's possible to unlock the bootloader on a Metro byT-mobile phone?
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It is possible. I have actually done it a few days ago.
As for if removing network lock is possible, I'm not really sure.
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It is possible. I have actually done it a few days ago.
As for if removing network lock is possible, I'm not really sure
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Can you hekp me unlock mine? I unlocked the network lock by having the phone 6 months and then using the Device Unlock App that came installed on the phone.
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Hello am using a Moto g stylus with qprs30 ROM, operating on MetroPCS USA , I need a rom and steps that I can flash to remove the sim network unlock
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Metro will sim unlock it for you if you have had service for 6 months
Can you share with us on steps to unlock the bootloader ?
Thanks !
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It is possible. I have actually done it a few days ago.
As for if removing network lock is possible, I'm not really sure.
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How did you unlock the bootloader, please . . .??
I believe you have to go to a specific Motorola website & follow instructions. Should be Googleable.
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I unlocked the network lock by having the phone 6 months and then using the Device Unlock App that came installed on the phone.
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Did you have phone service for six months (and at the time of the unlock) or just owned the phone that long?
i am with tmo it all depends on who you get and how present it to tmo on why you need it u locked i got mine unlocked on day one within a hour and im making payments granted ive been with them for like ten years so im sure that helps.ive done it before but i will admit it sounded harder this time the rep was like i will be right back with you i have to get this approved with a superviser ten minutes later he said it was approved and within 24 hours i would be able to unlock inrebooted phine from there and unlocked it.the oem lock in dev settings took 3 days before moto unlocked that as for unlocking my bootloader i havent went thay far yet i dont see the need yet and ive read you will not receive updates.honestly unless you are a developer there isnt alot on this device yet im sure it will come but i think ive seen one rom twrp i believe is spotty at the moment were probably a good three months atleast away before it really starts rolling.i will say it you use my way with metro make sure u sound like your in a officail compasity and you have a need as mot to spill the beans thats all i will say and good luck
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Hello am using a Moto g stylus with qprs30 ROM, operating on MetroPCS USA , I need a rom and steps that I can flash to remove the sim network unlock
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Did you eve ever figure it out? I'm rooted and not realizing how important it would have been to back up the apk when I had it... Smh